Linux-Advocacy Digest #685, Volume #25           Sat, 18 Mar 00 12:13:05 EST

Contents:
  Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Windows 2000: virus haven (rm_rupert)
  Re: Salary? (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: Salary? (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: Windows 2000: nothing worse (A transfinite number of monkeys)
  Re: Salary? (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers ("doc rogers")
  Windows 2000: download bog (rm_rupert)
  Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers ("doc rogers")
  Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers ("doc rogers")
  Re: Windows 2000 - the latest from work.... (Mark Fraser)
  Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers (Damien)
  Re: A pox on the penguin? (Linux Virus Epidemic) (Gary Hallock)
  Re: Windows 2000 - the latest from work.... (Tim Kelley)

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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:56:21 GMT

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Glatt) said:

>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>David H. McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>>>In article <38d2542b$1$yrgbherq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Glatt) said:
>>>> 
>>>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> 
>>>> >> Bryant Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>In article <38d091fc$2$yrgbherq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>>>> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>@David H. McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>> >>>@
>>>> >>>@>In article <38cf141b$1$yrgbherq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>>>> >>>@>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>>> >>>@>> David H. McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>> >>>@>> 
>>>> >>>@>> 
>>>> >>>@>> 
>>>> >>>@>> HEY EVERYONE ---   Standby for McCoy to tell us how the sex was with  @>>
>>>> >>>someones
>>>> >>>@>> mother.  Its his standard MO.
>>>> >>>@
>>>> >>>@>Weenie.
>>>> >>>@
>>>> >>>@
>>>> >>>@McCoy you asshole, crawl back into the hole you came out of and this time 
>>>> >>>@stay
>>>> >>>@there.  
>>>> >>>@
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>   Maybe you should change your name to Hackfield?
>>>> >>>   Followups set.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>And your point is? -- McCoy is loony who jumps in and out of different news
>>>> >>groups with nothing of value to state, and who, when he begins to lose the
>>>> >>argument starts into a tirade about having sex the other fellows mother.  
>>>> 
>>>> >Ed Letourneau is a loony who jumps in with nothing of value to state, and
>>>> >who, when he begins to lose the argument, starts into a bigotted tirade about
>>>> >homosexuality
>>>> 
>>>> Ah yes, glatt the aberrant mental buddy of McCoy. One talks of how he f**ks
>>>> everyone's mother when he gets caught in another moron statement. The other
>>>> (glatt), wants us to think his desire to stick his peepee in the butt of other
>>>> men is normal and anyone who objects is a bigot  -- and who for the life of
>>>> him can't figure out that its his obnoxious personality that no one can stand.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> glatt,  we haven't missed you in the past few days. In fact I was wondering if
>>>> you had gone off working on the Darwin Award, but alas you're still here.
>>>> Maybe you and McCoy can work together on it, eh. 
>>
>>>What a weenie you are. I'm going to smack your mom tonight for having  you.

>>Give it up you brain damaged twit. You proved my point and therefore lost.

>As one can see from the lunatic Ed Letourneau's tirade above, he proves my
>point about his bigotted outbursts against homosexuality.

>Ed Letourneau is simply a lunatic/bigot who is trying to make OS/2 users
>appear to be extremely unpleasant in an effort to drive people away from
>OS/2. He's an anti-advocate who has never done anything positive for OS/2,
>and seeks only to damage it with his fanaticism.

glatt, we've been over this before and you keep bringing it up instead of
letting it go. This time your hate injected you into discussion about McCoy --
who is another aberrant personality (hey, maybe you two are soul mates?). 

Your problem is your asshole personality that drives normal people away from
you. You counter that by insisting that anyone who sees you as the aberrant
creature you are, is branded as a bigot because you know, you are fucked up,
and the only thing you have the courage to face and say is that everyone else
is at fault. 

Now, you don't like me stating that men (like you) who want to stick their
peepee in the asshole of other is abnormal. Its an observation and its
correct, not homo hate. But as I've told you before, the reason I dislike you
is __your asshole personality__  which insists that anyone who doesn't like
you or disagrees with you, for any reason, is a bigot, and that they are
somehow here to kill OS2 by stating the obvious about you.

At first I wondered how you became this way -- then I came to understand -- I
bet you have been making this same claim since you were a teenage boy -- and I
bet it is because you have always been such an obnoxious asshole that no one
ever wanted to be your friend, and the only friends you ever found were those
with aberrant personalities.  I suggest you talk to your shrink. If you don't
have one, get one.


>Even Esther Schindler has pointed out how misguided are Ed's bigotted attacks
>upon gay people.

Esther pointed out no such thing. She said it didn't belong here -- and we all
agree to that _except you glatt_. We know this because you keep bringing your
homosexuality up in statements that connect it to the reason OS2 failed.  As
you have done here in this one. Why is glatt, that I can ignore you, but you
don't go away. Every time there is an opportunity to whine about me saying
you're abnormal, you do. So it is clear that you have an obsession.   Do you
think that if you chant about your aberrant behavior enough times, it will
change your abnormal personality into something normal? 

My observations here are accurate -- and your comments are a good example of
your constant obnoxious behavior and aberrant thought process, or what passes
for thought, and your wish to be taken as normal person while always acting
like a complete asshole.

Get it glatt? You are a complete asshole and that is what no one can stand.

How are you doing on the Darwin Award?  Team up with McCoy. Maybe you can get
extra points for two losers in one shot.

_____________
Ed Letourneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:56:22 GMT

George Marengo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:52:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Glatt)
>wrote:
><snip>
>>Ed Letourneau is simply a lunatic/bigot who is trying to make OS/2
>>users appear to be extremely unpleasant in an effort to drive people
>>away from OS/2. 

>That alone shows he's a nut. He doesn't need to drive anyone away from OS/2
>-- IBM did that without his help.

>From a former OS/2 1.3, 2.0, and 2.1 user -- never used Warp.

So george, what is your abnormality -- besides an obvious inability to think
clearly -- or will we have to suffer thought endless lines of drivel until it
becomes apparent? 


_____________
Ed Letourneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:56:24 GMT

David H. McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>In article <38d2dfa5$3$yrgbherq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> >> 
>> >> glatt,  we haven't missed you in the past few days. In fact I was wondering if
>> >> you had gone off working on the Darwin Award, but alas you're still here.
>> >> Maybe you and McCoy can work together on it, eh. 
>> 
>> >What a weenie you are. I'm going to smack your mom tonight for having  you.
>> 
>> 
>> Give it up you brain damaged twit. You proved my point and therefore lost.
>> 

>Weenie.

Do you have to wait for the first of the month for more medication, or did you
forget to take it? 



_____________
Ed Letourneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rm_rupert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Windows 2000: virus haven
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 15:53:39 GMT



Windows 2000: closed source virus haven.  Why oh why, would any
company in their right mind want this OS for doing business?
http://cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/03/17/melting.worm.idg/index.html


--
Mr Rupert









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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Salary?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:00:43 GMT

On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:08:18 +0100, Matthias Warkus wrote:
>what is affirmative action again?

"White males need not apply."

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Salary?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:03:23 GMT

On 17 Mar 2000 17:16:49 -0500, Greg Yantz wrote:
>Some of these special minority scholarships, which are designed to
>create opportunities for the disadvantaged, are in fact need-blind.
>That is, you can be from a minority and be well-to-do and still
>receive them. Unfortunately, I've seen it. 

I have the same stand-point on this issue as Howard Stern. I heard him, one
morning, talking about the Bill Gates scholarship for "minorities". Howard
complained that this was rediculous, and that some minorities had more
money than they knew what to do with so "Why not just give it to poor people?
There are poor white people out there too, y'know!"

I say scholarships should be given two (and ONLY two) restrictions;

A) Do they NEED it?
and
B) Will they WORK for it?

White, black, yellow, green, stand or sit - whatever.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A transfinite number of monkeys)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000: nothing worse
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:04:37 GMT

On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 20:40:20 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: There is no evidence to back up the assertion that MS has tried even once,

What color is the sky in your world?  For two months after MSFT bought
Hotmail, they tried in vain to do this.  They've tried on at least two 
other occasions that I know of.  All miserable failures.

: When you pay an admin $100,000 a year, $319 is not very much.

How many companies have ONE desktop system?  That's N * $319.  In a
company of 100 people, that's $31,900.  Besides, NT desktop support monkeys
don't make $100k/yr.  Maybe if they are MCSEs with actual experience in
putting together large NT based networks, sure, but not for Joe Desktop 
Support Guy.

: normal users are restricted from making changes to network protocols or file
: shares.  Why would you want your normal users screwing around with that?
: The idea of a normal user is that they aren't allowed to change any
: administration settings.

Why would I want my mother to be able to change her Internet settings?  So
I don't have to get in the car and drive over to do it for her?  She's not
a retard or anything, and with all of these "wizards" that are supposed to
let the drooling masses do anything, surely she can more than handle that
task.  That's why.

: A Power user is not root.  Hell, an Administrator is not root either, as in
: the Unix style.

Oh?  An Administrator can render an NT system completely unusable just as
quick as a Unix admin w/root access.

: There is a much simpler solution.  Remove the Video driver before removing
: the card, power down, remove card, power up, let Windows 2000 auto-detect
: the video card.  Done.

Sure, but then I get to experience the *EXACT* same set of steps to replace
the Voodoo3 driver that MSFT ships in Win2k with the 3dfx driver that 
supports OpenGL and Glide, rather than just DirectX.  After all, I DO want
to exploit the full capability of the card.

: So, you don't know what you're doing.

Keep telling yourself that, you might start believing it soon...

-- 
                 Jason Costomiris <><
            Technologist, cryptogeek, human.
jcostom {at} jasons {dot} org  |  http://www.jasons.org/ 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Salary?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:08:10 GMT

On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:09:45 GMT, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>       Highrise condo in Paris ~ 250K
>       Townhouse condo in Toronto ~ 180K (don't recall if that's CN or US)
>       Townhouse condo in a Columbus, OH suburb ~ 60K

Of course, quoting prices from major metropolatin areas are going to give
you skewed figures.

I can tell you for certain that a townhouse in Southern Ontario, just outside
the GTA, can go for ~$100k CDN. You can find them as cheap as ~$40k CDN, but
they're not exactly places you'd choose to raise a family in.

If I were to quote you the prices I've heard for houses in California, just
outside Silicon Valley, and use them as a reference point for housing costs
in America ...

I'll leave that one to your imagination.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: "doc rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:12:14 -0500

Norman D. Megill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8an27d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Roger  <roger@.> wrote:
> >On 14 Mar 2000 04:49:58 -0500, someone claiming to be Norman D. Megill

> >You misspelled "bugs in the NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD driver," since
> >it is the only driver I have ever run across / heard about with this
> >problem.

That could be.  I've never had the problem and I've never used that driver.
Seems like they'd quickly release an update that didn't do this--the problem
would be a serious pain in the ass.

> >That being the case, it is likely in the extreme that starting in Safe
> >Mode would allow you to correct this problem -- exactly as it is
> >designed to do.

> Interesting that because you've never heard of it, it therefore can't be
> an MS bug.

I know it isn't an MS bug (although the possibility of simply locking up on
changing display properties is an MS bug--but in the MS bug case, you just
reboot and everything is kosher) because I've changed display properties on
various Windows systems at least 1,000 times on at least half that many
systems.  How many different systems have you done this on?

> Granted, and also granted that it could (appear to be) fixed
> in Safe Mode, how do you really know that some deeper hidden damage
> hasn't also occurred that will only show up later?

How do you ever know that, regardless of what you do?  Did you know that
computers can fritz out from cosmic rays, even?  That is well documented.

> Since you don't have
> the source code and don't know the precise nature of the bug, you cannot
> know that.  I am trying to do a clean install that will hopefully last
> at least a month or more,

If you're having to install once per month or so, you either have
(a) A serious problem with your hardware, or
(b) You're using some seriously buggy third party software

Windows and MS apps like Office don't in themselves create situations where
an OS install is necessary like that.

>so why should I take the risk, especially
> contrary to Gateway's advice?

Gateway advises you to reinstall the OS if you get a display properties
lock-up???  Maybe they're trying to get you to wear out your system or
something so you have to buy new hardware from them.  lol :-)

>Windows has enough mysterious flaky
> problems as it is, so I want to eliminate as many unknowns as possible.

Sounds like a control issue.  They have doctors for that.


--doc



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rm_rupert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Windows 2000: download bog
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:20:18 GMT


Isn't Barnes and Noble's one of Drestin's highly touted sites
for NT excellence!???

[bn.com / barnesandnoble.com is running Microsoft-IIS/4.0 on NT4
or Windows 98]

http://cnn.com/2000/books/news/03/15/king.ebook/index.html

"A CNN editor who attempted to
download the story from Barnes &
Noble's site on Tuesday was told the
downloading queue was backed up,
and offered the opportunity to have
the book e-mailed directly to him.
Some hours later, he received an
e-mail saying high demand had
delayed the e-mail delivery."

--
Mr Rupert




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From: "doc rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:27:50 -0500


Norman D. Megill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ar214$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> I'll grant you that I don't know whose "issue" it is.  But there are
> very serious, major bugs in MS software that are very rare and only
> experienced by a few people.  For example, I have experienced one with
> MS Word that erases ALL of my work, including the AutoSave file.  I
> spent many hours with MS on the phone under their Task #30578459.  They
> admitted it was a known problem but refused to fix it or investigate it
> further because it is rare for most people.  For a description, see

>   http://x43.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=343048337
>   http://x43.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=344029166
>   http://x43.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=344214952

What are these, old newsgroup posts of yours from deja?  None of the links
worked.

> >>[...]how do you really know that some deeper hidden damage
> >>hasn't also occurred that will only show up later?
> >
> >[...]So, in
> >answer to your question -- there is no way to KNOW absolutely that
> >such did not occur, but it is unlikely.
>
> As I said,
>
> >>why should I take the risk, especially
> >>contrary to Gateway's advice?  Windows has enough mysterious flaky
> >>problems as it is, so I want to eliminate as many unknowns as possible.
>
> ..............
>
>
> >[...]Yes, let's address that procedure now, since you earlier asked what
> >could be eliminated:
>
> >[...]Unless you have made changes to your BIOS setup, which you don't
> >mention having made elsewhere, 5 6 and 7 can be eliminated altogether.
>
> I do often make some changes after installation.  So I want to get
> everything back to a known state to be on the safe side.  Anyway these
> steps consume a trivial amount of time.
>
> >>  fdisk /mbr  <- if boot sector is corrupted
> >
> >And since you have not mentioned that the boot sector is corrupt, this
> >could be skipped in any case.
>
> Again, this is almost instant.  So why not do it anyway - how do I know
> it's not corrupt?  I am doing a clean reinstall because the computer
> won't boot, or Windows crashes every hour instead of once a day, etc.  -
> I have no idea what is corrupted and what isn't.  It also gets rid of
> any boot sector viruses.  But yes, sometimes I do skip this.

The more I read your comments, the more I'm sensing that this should have
been called "How to Install Windows 95 on a machine with new hardware if
you're a paranoid with control issues"

I thought you claimed that these were Gateway's instructions?  Are these
published by Gateway somewhere?  Do you have the name of someone at Gateway
who specified all these steps?


--doc



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From: "doc rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:32:25 -0500

The main thing I'm getting from all of this is:

Don't buy Gateway.


--doc


Norman D. Megill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8arllf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <8ar214$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Norman D. Megill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Roger  <roger@.> wrote:
> >>On 14 Mar 2000 23:06:05 -0500, someone claiming to be Norman D. Megill
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>  (The following 2 formats change the label to uppercase to workaround
an
> >>>  FDISK bug.)
> >>
> >>Why / how had they become lower case to begin with?
> >
> >I don't know.  A Windows crash can do strange things to your disk.  But
>
> After researching my notes I now see what happened.  Disks provided by
> Gateway are formatted by some other software that allows lowercase, so
> it could be construed as Gateway's fault for the person putting in the
> lower case label not being aware of the FDISK bug.  I put the
> relabelling in my procedure and it is probably redundant after the first
> reformat of a new disk.  In fairness to MS, I have never seen a Windows
> crash that corrupted the disk label.
>
> --Norm
>



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From: Mark Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - the latest from work....
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:31:08 GMT

Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:XZIA4.7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> > Reason is the Microsoft team didn't thoroughly test their product!
> 
> Not in the slightest.  Win2k is the most thoroughly tested product of this
> magnitude ever developed.

Really? So what are you comparing it to? What would be the second most
thoroughly tested product of this magnitude? I hope you're not just
taking MS's word for it. Oh wait, according to MS there has never been a
product of this magnitude in software/OS history. Never mind.

-- 
Toddlers are the stormtroopers of the Lord of Entropy.

Mark Fraser   -   markfras at home dot com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damien)
Crossposted-To: alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Mar 2000 16:49:49 GMT

On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:31:20 -0500, in alt.microsoft.sucks,
doc rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| 1.  Stick in a boot floppy (if you can't boot from CD-ROM; if you can, it's
| even easier)
| 2.  Choose "start with CD-ROM support"
| 3.  At the prompt, enter you CD drive letter
| 4.  Type the word "setup"
| 5.  Stick in another floppy when Windows tells you to.
| 6.  Hit Enter/Click okay a bunch of times when Windows tells you to.
| 7.  Make a cup of coffee.  Keep hitting enter/clicking okay
| 8.  Reboot.

Okay, I've counted and I've determined that you about 8 reboots to
install Windows 95.  But that's including one where the system locks
up consistently at a certain point.  Sure I could use the rescue disk,
but it's not very useful if you've ever changed any of the hardware in
your system.

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:54:28 -0500
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: A pox on the penguin? (Linux Virus Epidemic)

Drestin Black wrote:

>
>
> so, you NEVER su to root?

At work?   No.   I don't even know the root password.    On my home pc,
yes.     But I don't go installing just any old program either.   This whole
discussion is simply silly.   Every OS has some kind of superuser.   Some,
like Windows 9x, have nothing but superuser.   By defintion, a superuser can
do anything.   And if you have superuser access then there is no need for any
trickery to infect the system.  rm -rf  / will do all the damage you might
want.  The key is to limit access to superuser  to trusted people and limit
the need to login as superuser.

Gary


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From: Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - the latest from work....
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:11:50 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Just got the news from our support people that Windows 2000 is not backwardly
> compatible with NT.  Case in point is Core Technologies BRIDGE software which
> is capable of poll-select via a com port under NT, doesn't work under Win 2000.
> 
> Reason is the Microsoft team didn't thoroughly test their product!
> 
> TRUE, Windows 2000 is almost 2 years behind their original lofty schedules.
> TRUE, they have had 2 years extra to develop and test their product!
> 
> TRUE, it costs over $300 a copy to get it.
> 
> TRUE, all we can do is tell our customers we DON'T KNOW WHEN MICROSOFT WILL FIX IT!
> 
> God I'm sick of Microsoft.  I'm so tired of the moronic stupidity...
> The cost.  The cost.  The cost...  The cost....
> 
> Why is it !  Why can't Microsoft make a backwardly compatible product????
> Not even in VB can they make a backwardly compatible product!!!!

Actually, the biggest problem I have with MS is their *obsession* with backwards
compatibility.  This is what keeps them from getting anywhere, and it is the
biggest problem with NT, which is quite good, except for the fact that it is
still very much like windows 9x in many ways (too many).

--
Tim Kelley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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