Linux-Advocacy Digest #998, Volume #25 Fri, 7 Apr 00 03:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS supporters. ("fmc")
Re: Review: Corel Office 2000 (Chip Salzenberg)
Re: RH linux stable?? (Terry Porter)
Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS supporters. (Ketil
Z Malde)
Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS supporters. (Lee
Sau Dan)
Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS supporters. ("fmc")
Re: A question fo Mark Bilk (way OT) (Terry Porter)
Re: DID BILL GATES HAVE COSMETIC SURGERY?????? (Terry Porter)
Re: Bobo has "issues" (When in LA)
Re: Let's just have a discussion about Global Domination (Terry Porter)
Re: You anti-Microsoft types just don't get it, do you? (Ketil Z Malde)
Re: Linux mail/news application questions (Terry Porter)
Re: You anti-Microsoft types just don't get it, do you? (Darren Winsper)
Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS supporters.
(Damien)
Re: benchmark for speed in linux / windows (Darren Winsper)
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From: "fmc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS supporters.
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 05:57:14 GMT
"Jim Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 03:08:25 GMT,
> fmc, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>
> >
> >"Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Bad example, there is only ONE laptop.
> >>
> >> This topic has been rehashed to death, suppose I borrow your laptop,
> >> stick it in a cloning machine, and make another, which I keep. You get
> >yours
> >> back ... what then, have you been robbed, was there theft, have you
been
> >denied
> >> use of your laptop due to my cloning ?
> >>
> >
> >Thanks for returning my laptop. The one you cloned is an illegal copy,
and
> >violates not only the copyrights of the software licensors, but the
patents
> >of the manufacturer as well.
> >
>
> How does it violate the patents of the manufacturer? patents don't prevent
you
> from building a copy of something, they only prevent you from selling it.
>
It's always smart to check your facts before you express your opinion.
35 USC 271, Infringement of patent
§271. Infringement of patent
"Except as otherwise provided in this title [35 USC §§1 et seq.], whoever
without authority makes, uses, offers to sell, or sells any patented
invention, within the United States or imports into the United States any
patented invention during the term of the patent therefor, infringes the
patent. "
fmc
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>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chip Salzenberg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Review: Corel Office 2000
Date: 6 Apr 2000 23:00:02 -0700
According to Frank Pittel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I just got office 2000 today. While the installation went smoothly
> nothing else would start. All I got was a window that told me a
> fatal error had occured and I should contact corel it the trouble
> persists.
Hm. I've had trouble with CorelCentral (it just won't run), but the
rest seems OK. Though it did first throw fits when I had no printer
support programs installed (lpr, lpq, lpc, lprm).
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"What country is this?" "Europe." "Oh." //MST3K
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: RH linux stable??
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 7 Apr 2000 14:06:57 +0800
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 03:29:15 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian) wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 17:51:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Isn't it amazing how much people complain about the Linux apps (most
>of which
>> are labeled "beta" or even "alpha") and that they crash sometimes? No
>one
>> does this with windoze software.
><snip>
>
>Well I have just been screwed out of fifty bucks by TaxCut for Windows.
>Print preview ain't what comes out of the printer, and nothing we've
>tried has corrected the problem.
>
>And I went to all the trouble to partition a slice of my drive for this
>piece of sh*t software and went thru the living hell of loading Win98 to
>try to run it. I thought Linux was hard to install until I tried to
>load Win98 on a virgin disk. Seventeen reboots, and I still got a piece
>of crap tax program that can't even add two integers correctly.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
Perhaps "Heather/Steve/Keys88" will refund your money, as he seems to be the
taxcut snake oil salesman here on COLA.
Why just the other day he was telling us all how wonderfull and bug free
Taxcut is, not to mention the "free" graphics software that came with his
$90 Cannon printer.
Hang on, ... it wasnt long, till another poster told us he had the same printer
and software and it was total crap.
Hmmm, perhaps "Heather/Steve/Keys88", is a lying Wintroll? <gosh!>
Kind Regards
Terry
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS supporters.
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 06:07:49 GMT
"fmc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Maybe WINE will do that, but there's no guarantee it will run all
> the apps I need,
And you get such a guarantee with...what?
I've had plenty of problems running applications under NT, for
instance.
> Anyway, the average computer doesn't want or need an emulator.
It bears remembering that 99% of computer users aren't average.
> The lack of native OS/2 applicatations drove people (myself
> included) back to Windows.
Personally, I think the pricing, and of course Windows' bundling
model, had a lot to do with it.
> It's not that the open source developers lack the skill to create the apps
> I'm talking about. It's more a lack of interest,
I used to think that (or at least analogously), too - free software is
mostly written by the people who need it. Thus there is little
simplification or prettification of user interfaces - if you know how
the program works, you don't need it.
(Word processors, for instance, who in their right mind would want a
word processor? Just about the only advantage is that you can make
people believe that what you see on screen is what you end up with on
paper, if you just repeat it often enough.)
Surprisingly, loads of people are writing this kind of user
applications in the free software world.
-kzm
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From: Lee Sau Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS supporters.
Date: 07 Apr 2000 14:04:11 +0800
>>>>> "fmc" == fmc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> But you do limit my right to do with my property as I see fit.
>> You make it illegal to put a certain sequence of ones and zeros
>> on hard disks and CD's that are my property.
fmc> That's right, it's illegal for you to lay down a string of
fmc> copyrighted bits.
That's an absurd idea.
So, I'll today write a small program --- a bit-string generator. I'll
deploy this program on all machines which I own, to increase yield.
In 1 year, my program should be able to exhaust all bit strings of
length <= 1Mbytes. So, at that time, I'll start sending out letters
to all computer (or any digital device) users, telling them to send me
loyalty fee for every file of size <= 1Mbytes on their storage
devices. Why? I've produced all bit strings of length <= 1Mbytes,
for which I own the copyright. So, anyone who has any file <= 1Mbytes
on their harddisk are "pirates" of some of the bit strings that my
program has generated. Hahahahahahahahaha.........................
For better protection, I'll try to have this idea patented. So, you
can't enjoy the "independent creation" defense. Haha...
fmc> MicroSoft holds the copyright on "0", and
fmc> I believe that Intel and AMD are fighting over who owns the
fmc> "1".
I'll go to another dimension: try to get the ownership of letter "a"
in English alphabet. Whoever uses this letter will have to pay me
loyalty. Haha!
fmc> I'm reading the side of a box that contains a copy of OS/2.
fmc> It states that the box contains copyrighted material, and
fmc> that "purchase is conditioned on acceptance of the license
fmc> contained inside".
That's hardly any license or contract. Without the possibility that I
*negotiate* with the other side about the terms in the "license", it
doesn't constitute an agreement or contract. The terms in it are
simply void.
fmc> If you don't agree to the license it says
fmc> you can return the software and get your money back.
.............^^^
I "can" or I "must"?
fmc> If you don't like bowling on their alley, just turn in your
fmc> shoes and get a refund. You won't lose a dime,
I wouldn't lose a dime, but dollars! How much is the postage? How
valuable is my time and energy!? You mean those cost < a dime? I'm
not cheap labour!
fmc> you aren't
fmc> damaged in any way, and life goes on. You can run it, read
fmc> it, watch it, or listen to it, but you can't copy it.
Can I keep a **backup** copy of it, then, even if the license *says*
that I do not have the right to do so?
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From: "fmc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS supporters.
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 06:22:32 GMT
"Damien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 04:20:34 GMT, in alt.destroy.microsoft,
> fmc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |
> | "Damien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> | news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> | > On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 03:08:25 GMT, in alt.destroy.microsoft,
> | > fmc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | > |
> | > | "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> | > | news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> | > | > This topic has been rehashed to death, suppose I borrow your
laptop,
> | > | > stick it in a cloning machine, and make another, which I keep. You
get
> | > | yours
> | > | > back ... what then, have you been robbed, was there theft, have
you
> | been
> | > | denied
> | > | > use of your laptop due to my cloning ?
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > | Thanks for returning my laptop. The one you cloned is an illegal
copy,
> | and
> | > | violates not only the copyrights of the software licensors, but the
> | patents
> | > | of the manufacturer as well.
> | >
> | > True enough. But what inate rights of the manufactures and software
> | > licensor's did we violate in making a clone of your laptop?
> |
> | The ones you just acknowledged. Don't forget the additional costs the
> | manufacturer will have to absorb to maintain your clone. It's still
under
> | warranty.
>
> I acknowledged breaking laws, not violating anyone's rights. So once
> again, who's rights did I violate, and how?
You STILL don't get it? Well, it takes some people a little longer than
others.
I'll spell it out for you. The holder of a copyright or patent owns "all
rights" to whatever the copyrights and patents cover. By acting contrary to
what the copyrights and patents state you can do, you've violated the
rights of the owners of same.
Q: "who's rights did I violate"
A: The holders of the copyrights or patents.
Q: "and how?"
A: By acting contrary to what the copyrights and patents state you can do.
fmc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: A question fo Mark Bilk (way OT)
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 7 Apr 2000 14:26:42 +0800
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 03:14:06 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>> I'm just curious how do go about doing all of these Deja
>> searches you do?
>>
>> Do you have some program that makes it easier/faster or do you just
>> wade through the power searches?
>>
>> Reason I'm asking is I find deja to be maddeningly slow and I do not
>> have the patience to wait and wait and wait for the information to
>> appear.
>>
>> Just curious.
>>
>
>Must be your karma. Only took me half-a-second to find out you had
>posted to C.O.L.A 123 times.
Hahahahahahahahah LOL
This is great, COLA has, become quite humurous of late, its a laff a minute
these days!
Reminds me of a few years ago, when it was hard not to have tears running down
my face I'd been laffing so hard, after reading posts and responses here.
Then the professional WinTrolls moved in, and it's been a bit of a battlefield
here since.
Maybe the good old days are coming back to COLA ?
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: DID BILL GATES HAVE COSMETIC SURGERY??????
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 7 Apr 2000 14:27:56 +0800
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 03:04:56 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CG) wrote:
>> I saw him on tv this morning and he looks different. Any ideas on
>> this?
>>
>He looked like a geek. A nervous billionaire geek, but a still a geek.
>Did a quick altavista search for reconstructive surgeons offering
>geekoplasty and got no hits.
>
LOL LOL!
Kind Regards
Terry
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From: When in LA
Reply-To: When in LA
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bobo has "issues"
Date: 7 Apr 2000 06:44:08 GMT
On Sun, 7 Apr 3900 05:46:02, Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
|Bobo wrote (using a pseudonym again):
|>
|> On Sun, 7 Apr 3900 03:59:30, Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
|>
|> |[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|> |>
|> |> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
|> |> "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|> |> > you know what - I say bullshit. Bullshit to you Bob. I think you are
|> |> lying.
|> |>
|> |> That's what I like about Drestin. Subtlety. Tact. And a willingness
|> |> to compromise.
|> |>
|> |> _N_O_T_!
|> |
|> |Sorry dude, but look at who he's dealing with. Germer has earned quite a
|> |"rep" for spreading misinformation and outright lying. Frankly I don't blame
|> |anyone for questioning his words.
|>
|> You mean spreads misinformation or outright lying like you dude?
|
|You got that backwards. You're the proven liar. You can't even make your
|case without spewing lies about what was and wasn't omitted from a given
|post. Perhaps you should respond where I already debunked your idiocy rather
|than spread it further to yet another unrelated thread.
|
|[verbal masturbation snipped]
|
|And just for laughs, why don't you now pipe up and defend Germer's idiocy
|claiming that he has not lied about such topics as USB. We can all use a bit
|more entertainment from that episode.
Why should I defend Germer? He was proven wrong and he wouldn't admit
it. It is you that has a lot in common with Germer, not me. I admit
my errors.
BobO
Deduce: 1. To reach (a conclusion) by reasoning.
Infer: 1.To conclude from evidence or premises.
Marty Amodeo gives his opinion on the above definitions:
MA>One does not infer to decide guilt.
MA>One deduces and proves guilt.
MA>One can only infer from a metaphor.
First Marty confuses symbolics and figurative language with logic.
MA>Deduction involves taking what is already there and plain to be
MA>seen and forming conclusions from it. Inference involves
MA>looking at the trend of what is there and predicting where it was
leading.
Then Marty confuses inductive logic with inferences.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Let's just have a discussion about Global Domination
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 7 Apr 2000 14:47:58 +0800
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 02:45:57 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Check my facts, ANYBODY! I'm totally amazed that nobody is reading=20
>> this post nor-responding. It's that amazing there is absolutely NO
>> discussion about this.
>>
>> It does not matter a flip what new gadget Microsoft might come out
>> with on any future OS. What matters is the COST.
>
>I am a Linux user now primarily because of the cost barrier imposed by
>Microsoft for me to duplicate my work environment at home. I need to be
>able to read and write documents in Word format (yucch), I needed a
>spreadsheet, a quick-and-dirty database, a browser, e-mail, and all the
>other typical desktop junk. And no, my employer wouldn't reimburse me.
>
>When I bought this PC, all it had on it was Windows98. My wife and I
>uncrated it, got it plugged in, and both said to each other "where's the
>software?" when it booted up. Notepad is not word processing, folks.
>
>So we hopped in the car and ran down to the local Staples office
>supply. We had a list of what we needed, and started loading up the
>shopping cart and adding up the prices. We left the cart in the aisle
>after less than twenty minutes (but more than two thousand dollars).
>Ran across the street and bought Caldera Linux and a fullblown copy of
>WordPerfect for less money than we had got shafted for for the pathetic
>stripped Windows98. Formatted right over the top of Windoze, and
>haven't looked back.
>
>You're right; it really _was_ the exorbitant cost of Windows that got us
>here. And I hope MSFT keeps raising their prices; makes Linux and
>Mac/OS look better and better....
Great post, and very typical I think.
"Heather/Steve/Amy/Keys88" being an asute Wintroll, may notice that
pac4854 had no trouble installing. Linux installed first time. Pac4854 didnt
ask for his money back, and pac4854 is *very* happy.
This puts a 12G shotgun to the belly of our resident Wintroll's claims
to the contrary. It's here in black and white, weep, Steve weep and nash
your nasty lil Wintroll teeth!
Whats more Pac4854, can delete a few other features from his list, things
like lockups, wierd occurrences of data gone missing, virii, and of course
the constant $$$$ driven upgrade cycle of software and hardware.
I personally don't like wordprocessors, but if I *had* to have one,
it would be Wordperfect. I've tried it, it rocks and is easy to use ...
however its LYX for me.
Kind Regards
Terry
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: You anti-Microsoft types just don't get it, do you?
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 06:39:12 GMT
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> gnus/emacs
>
> * does news *and* mail.
> * has offline agent mode.
> * works in linux and windows.
> * handles attachments.
> * good text editor already built-in.
* has a matching address/person database
* is infinitely configurable (see my message-id as a trivial example)
* has scoring, kibozing, archive browsing etc. etc.
* is automatically updated and upgraded
* is extremely standards compliant
* works great both graphically and textually
[list goes on]
Hey, I know people who use Linux almost exclusively as a means to run
Emacs.
-kzm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux mail/news application questions
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 7 Apr 2000 14:55:20 +0800
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 01:18:32 GMT,
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
<snip>
>No, I mean the ability to head over to my mail folders, and treat
>*them* as newsgroups. That way, if I archive messages for posterity,
>those messages can sit on my mail spool, and be accessible just as
>easily as they were when they were on an external news spool.
>
<snip>
Dam you Browne, I'd forgotten Gnus did that, and my huge collection of posts
is waiting to be re read, and sifted. Where oh where will I find the HDD space
to install Xemacs and Gnews again <waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa>.
Gnus has features Agent users can only dream of.
Kind Regards
Terry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: You anti-Microsoft types just don't get it, do you?
Date: 7 Apr 2000 06:56:59 GMT
On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:11:50 GMT, Leonard F. Agius
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Guess what? Most new computer users fall in that category.
Which is really sad. People like my father (Who is willing to learn,
unlike many others) are a breath of fresh air as far as I'm concerned.
> Industry is trying
> to make things as easy for them as using a toaster.
That cannot be done whilst still retaining the general purpose nature
of the computer. In order to make the computer as easy to use as
toaster, it would have to have at most the functionality of a
type-writer.
> If that offends your sensibilities, get over it.
Fuck off. The only way to make the PC as easy to use as say, a TV is
to take away its general purpose nature. Speaking of TVs, isn't it odd
that they are becomming *more* complex? The new Sky Digital system has
a hand set with a large number of buttons. For the first time I
encountered a remote that I couldn't use without a couple of pointers.
> Power users are now becoming considered fringe
> users.
Err...no.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damien)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: The Failure of Microsoft Propaganda -was- So where are the MS supporters.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 07 Apr 2000 06:57:01 GMT
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 06:22:32 GMT, in alt.destroy.microsoft,
fmc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| "Damien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
| news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
| > I acknowledged breaking laws, not violating anyone's rights. So once
| > again, who's rights did I violate, and how?
|
| You STILL don't get it? Well, it takes some people a little longer than
| others.
|
| I'll spell it out for you. The holder of a copyright or patent owns "all
| rights" to whatever the copyrights and patents cover. By acting contrary to
| what the copyrights and patents state you can do, you've violated the
| rights of the owners of same.
|
| Q: "who's rights did I violate"
|
| A: The holders of the copyrights or patents.
|
| Q: "and how?"
|
| A: By acting contrary to what the copyrights and patents state you can do.
Boy are we going in circles here. I say, intellectual "property"
rights are not innate rights. They are privileges granted by our
benevolent government to foster progress. In the case of the software
industry they have been counter-productive and have hindered progress
more than helped it. You say, intellectual "property" rights are
innate and for that reason they are protected by the government. I
ask, how do you have the innate right to limit what I do with my
property, because under copyright laws you can do that. For example,
you can prohibit me from distributing CD's (my property) that contain
a certain sequence of ones and zeros, because you've copyrighted that
sequence of ones and zeros. You say that my distributing CD's with a
certain sequence of ones and zeros infringes on your rights. I say
how does that infringe on your rights. You say it infringes on your
rights because it's not allowed under copyright law. I say, but you
said your rights are not 'doled out by the government'. What innate
right of yours does my behavior infringe on? You say it infringes on
you right as a copyright holder.
Have I summed it up pretty well? Do you still hold your position?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Subject: Re: benchmark for speed in linux / windows
Date: 7 Apr 2000 06:57:00 GMT
On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 22:58:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But Linux has a choice of so many "great gui" interfaces that are
> supposed to be far superior to Windows.
>
> Why should my lack of cli skills even be an issue?
They don't. Use the GNOME find program.
> I rarely use the cli and I guess that shows.
Oh it does.
> BTW you STILL have not proven that Linux find, from the top of a
> directory is faster than Windows find.
And you have not proven Windows find is faster.
> All you have done is use the
> typical Linvocate attack the messenger technique in the hopes the
> original topic will disappear.
Er...no. You're just making yet more bullshit up to try and cover up
your mistakes.
> BTW how come no other Linvocate has backed up your claims?
> 2 Seconds David?
> To search and entire hard disk for a file name using find, not Locate?
It's possible if the filesystem is cached.
> You think the average home user is going to study cli commands in
> detail?
No. So?
> You are living in a fantasy world if you do.
> That doesn't surprise me though as Linux is the "fantasy" operating
> system.
Yes, Linux is in fact a figment of your imagination.
> The Linvocates wet dream so to speak.
Don't be such an insulting f***-wit.
> Linux is making absolutely no
> inroads into the home computing environment.
Wrong.
> None what so ever.
Prove it.
> Linux the OS that delivers so much less, with so much less hardware.
Liar.
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