Linux-Advocacy Digest #682, Volume #26 Thu, 25 May 00 10:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers. (Bloody Viking)
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software (Bob Germer)
Re: Linux good choice for home desktop. (LFessen106)
Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers. (Bloody Viking)
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: QB 4.5 in Win 2000 (Damien)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Illya Vaes)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Illya Vaes)
Re: Tholen invoked - Thread now dead (was Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?)
("Joe Malloy")
Re: Goodwin's Law invoked - Thread now dead (was Re: Would a M$ ("Joe Malloy")
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? (Mark Wilden)
Re: Thorne digest, volume 2451690 (Marty)
Re: Goodwin's Law invoked - Thread now dead (was Re: Would a M$
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Illya Vaes)
Re: Linux good choice for home desktop. (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Malloy invoked - Thread now dead (was Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Steve/Mike Destroys His Career -was- Linux will never progress beyond geekdome (Mark
S. Bilk)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Seán Ó Donnchadha)
Re: Advocacy or Mental Illness ? (Brian Langenberger)
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From: Bloody Viking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers.
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:19:36 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Fucking idiot. The guy's printer works under the most popular OS on
: the planet, you expect it to work under a ner-do-well piece of shit OS
: like Linux?
Most popular OS != best OS. After all, SUVs are more popular than sports
cars. And SUVs use up more petrol and tip over easier than sports cars.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:21:49 GMT
On 05/24/2000 at 08:44 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Basically, if you have FP13 on a CDROM or locally, or know how to find
> it on an FTP site, you're fine.
Basically, you are too computer illiterate to use OS/2. Windoze was
designed for idiots like you.
Bye bye!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LFessen106)
Subject: Re: Linux good choice for home desktop.
Date: 25 May 2000 12:24:36 GMT
>Sure it is, if you are a programmer geek. If you are normal, Linux is
>worst choice you could possibly make for a desktop system.
>
>I'd rather run a Commodore-64
So what's wrong with a Commodore 64 ???
Once you have one you can run LUnix (a unix clone for Commodore's).
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From: Bloody Viking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers.
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:27:52 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: That's one of the best flames I've heard in a while! LOL!!!
Yeah, it's not every day you come across someone with a Winmodem for a
brain.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 25 May 2000 12:33:25 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: s@- wrote:
:>
:> A regression test suite is of utomost importance. Can someone
:> tell me where is one to test the ethernet driver for linux? I just
:> made changes in one and I want to make sure I did not break
:> something, how do I know?
: Do you mean to say that there is no standard test suite to run Linux
: code changes against? That each developer either writes his own, or
: trusts to 'many eyes' to do his testing for him?
And I'll tell you something else .. there is no regression suite for
the hardware they're driving either :-). Those chips change
arbitrarily, and break in new and interesting ways at every minor
redesign or component change.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 25 May 2000 12:37:34 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc s@- wrote:
: What I find the most amazing thing in this, is that we are aactually
: arguing if a bug-tracking system is usefull or not.
: This by itself just shows how far behind the linux developers
: are compared to main stream software engineers when it comes
: to modern software processes.
: It is really is amazing.
No .. it's amazing how behind the times you are. Think of this as "just
in time software". Then you'll get a better analogy.
Another good analogy is "evolutionary software". The software isn't
being designed and rolled out, then (or before) to be tested and
reworked. It's evolving to meet changing circumstances. It's subject to
all kinds of pressures, only one of them being "does it work". In
fact the answer to that question is about as clear as the answer to
"does a penguin work?" Working is not part of its specification. What
it is is a success, whether it works or not. And it's a success becuase
it's survived.
[rote-learned booklore deleted]
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 25 May 2000 12:42:06 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8ghs1s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <s@-> wrote:
:>I tell you, based on the answers I see here, I just wonder
:>how Linux even works based on the type of people who seem
:>to work on it. It seems like the most sloppy development
:>software project ever created, and it seems to attract
:>the kind of programmers to have no clue about what is
:>software engineering is all about.
: The odd thing is that it actually is as good as most
: commercial software that goes through the proper
: formalities. The problem is that every user has
: to discover the remaining problems the hard way.
Amusingly, I just got this mail from Alan Cox on the list ...
Message 4/414 Alan Cox May 25, 2000 01:25:46 pm +0100
Subject: Re: [patch] 2.3.99-pre10-3 all architectures
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Owens)
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:25:46 +0100 (BST)
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Precedence: bulk
> There are too many bug reports being mailed in without following the
> bug reporting process. This patch adds "Please read linux/REPORTING-BUGS"
> to arch/*/kernel/traps.c on every architecture, against 2.3.99-pre10-3.
> Would the various arch maintainers please check it before I send the
> patch to Linus.
This is why I told you to keep the ksymoops tools with the kernel.
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 25 May 2000 12:39:15 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc s@- wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
:>How can you toss out meaningful criticisms without knowing the actual
:>process(es) currently being used by the core developers, if any?
:
: Ok, proof us wrong. Since you are into that actual secrete culture of the
: 'core' kernel developers, points us to the bug-tracking system to use
: to report bugs found by users in the OS called Linux. A mailing list or
: news group or a chat room is not a bug tracking system.
Oh, I'm afraid it is. It's at least as good as the one that tracks the
governments activities (known as "the press").
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damien)
Crossposted-To: alt.lang.basic,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: QB 4.5 in Win 2000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 25 May 2000 12:49:17 GMT
On Thu, 25 May 2000 06:06:36 -0400, in alt.destroy.microsoft,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Bob May wrote:
| >
| > Roger,
| > >>Crashing daily.
| > >Not a bug, since it does not generically do so. Must have been
| > >something in the environment.
[snip "Win95 crashes a lot"]
| You are not going to like this but...
|
| My downstairs computer (Win95) has not crashed in 4 years.
| Upstairs (this one) is also solid. Win95b
| The secret. As little as possible is running at once. Removed the
| "system wizard" crap for error recover, never loaded Norton error
| recovery. Scan disk about every 30-60 days and defrag also.
| This machine is on 24X7 (but I do "suspend" it).
| Last time I had mysterious hardware related problems (1984 or so) it was
| due to grounding problems in the motherboard.
There we have it. The secrete to keep Windows from crashing is to
avoid multitasking and do a lot of maintenance. I have to say, that
sucks.
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From: Illya Vaes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 14:56:07 +0200
Chris Wenham wrote:
>josco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>I propose when they MS is split into an OS and Apps company that many of
>>those who argued for MS will proclaim that MS won. MS always indented to
>>be split into two companies, each with its own monopoly.
>If you strike them down they will become more powerful than you can
>possibly imagine.
"The Force" is something coming from the imagination of George Lucas, it's of
no use to MS (and BTW, it was used to be able to talke about "good" and "bad"
in an interesting way; guess which side of The Force would be...).
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From: Illya Vaes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 15:08:19 +0200
"Seán Ó Donnchadha" wrote:
>josco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>They can reverse a biased half-awake judge's interpretation of both
>those facts and the law - a law, mind you, that is unique in its
>vagueness, and notorious for being open to creative interpretation.
You were there?
Even a half-awake judge (who can blame hime if you have to wade through MS'
baloney full time) knows more of the case as presented before him and the
legal implications than you.
>>MS is also burdened with arguing consistently. They cannot change stories
>>case to case. They are being pinned down and cannot come out with Defense
>>Version 3.0.
>I'm not sure what you mean here.
They have to stick to the same story on appeal as the one they told now.
>>That doesn't work in courts where the facts are not tossed out and a fresh
>>start is given in each case.
>According to many observers,
ZD? MS Winvocates? Lackeys?
>Judge Jackson did exactly that - toss out
>facts that had been established in prior court proceedings.
If you read his ruling for yourself, you'll see how he logically concludes,
based on facts, why certain _possibly_ applicable precedents are in fact no
applicable in this case.
Read more first-hand information instead of MS briefing material.
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Holland Railconsult BV, Integral Management of Railprocess Systems
Postbus 2855, 3500 GW Utrecht
Tel +31.30.2653273, Fax 2653385 Not speaking for anyone but myself
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From: "Joe Malloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Tholen invoked - Thread now dead (was Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save
It?)
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 09:08:40 -0400
Ach, du lieber! Tholen tholens again!
> > Tholen tholenates:
>
> Still using made-up words, eh Malloy?
Asked, answered, answer willfully miscontstrued, eh Tholen?
> >>> Oww! Tholen tholenates:
>
> >> Still using made-up words, eh Malloy?
>
> > Asked, answered,
>
> Incorrect, Malloy.
Balderdash, Tholen.
> > answer willfully misconstrued, eh Tholen?
>
> Nope.
Ooops, you meant "Yup." You're forgiven.
> >>>>> The Tholen tholens:
>
> >>>> Still using made-up words, eh Malloy?
>
> >>> Asked, answered
>
> >> Incorrect, Malloy.
>
> > Balderdash, Tholen.
>
> Where is the alleged answer, Malloy?
In a previous posting, Tholen.
> >>> and not-comprehended by Tholen.
>
> >> I can't comprehend what isn't there to comprehend, Malloy.
>
> > Heck, you can't comprehend what I put there for your delectation,
Tholen.
>
> On the contrary
Your response does nothing but assert the contrary.
> I've comprehended everything
No, you haven't. Figures.
> you've put "there"
I did not place "there" there, Tholen.
> but it doesn't include an answer to my question.
Yes it does, Tholen.
> >>>>>>> We sic Tholen onto you.
>
> >>>>>> Who is "we"?
>
> >>>>> The *real* question is how sic [sic!] is Tholen?
>
> >>>> How ironic, coming from the person who just wrote that.
>
> >>> Not nearly as ironic as the sic [sic] "induhvidual" who just typed
that!
>
> >> How ironic, coming from the person who just wrote that.
>
> > Not nearly as ironic as the sic [sic] "induhvidual" who just typed that!
>
> How ironic, coming from the person who just wrote that.
Not nearly as ironic as the sic [sic] "induhvidual" who just typed that!
--
"USB, idiot, stands for Universal Serial Bus. There is no power on the
output socket of any USB port I have ever seen" - Bob Germer
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From: "Joe Malloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Goodwin's Law invoked - Thread now dead (was Re: Would a M$
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 09:11:51 -0400
Tholen tholes:
> >> We sic Tholen onto you.
>
> > Is that idiot still around?
>
> What allleged "idiot", Aaron?
Ha ha, you have to ask, Tholen? QED!
--
"USB, idiot, stands for Universal Serial Bus. There is no power on the
output socket of any USB port I have ever seen" - Bob Germer
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From: Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 14:13:27 +0100
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> And I'll tell you something else .. there is no regression suite for
> the hardware they're driving either :-). Those chips change
> arbitrarily, and break in new and interesting ways at every minor
> redesign or component change.
That's just another argument in favour of test suites, then. That way,
when the hardware changes, you can identify the change with the test
suite, instead of wondering whether it was your latest change that broke
the code.
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From: Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Thorne digest, volume 2451690
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:13:16 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> You're wasting your time, Thorne.
How ironic.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Goodwin's Law invoked - Thread now dead (was Re: Would a M$
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:17:54 GMT
Joe Malloy writes:
> Tholen tholes:
On what basis do you make that claim, Malloy?
>>>> We sic Tholen onto you.
>>> Is that idiot still around?
>> What allleged "idiot", Aaron?
> Ha ha, you have to ask, Tholen?
There was no evidence provided, Malloy.
> QED!
How ironic.
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From: Illya Vaes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 15:19:45 +0200
Edwin wrote:
>David D. Huff Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>Edwin I think beyond M$, I happen to care about some of the people whom
>>have lost a great deal of their retirement funds due to this single minded
>>lunacy of M$.
>That's too bad. Tough breaks for them.
Where are you every time an opponent of MS breakup tries to argue it shouldn't
be done because "all those retiring saps will lose their pensions"???
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: Linux good choice for home desktop.
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:20:12 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Frank Rizzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote on Wed, 24 May 2000 19:04:45 GMT
<hJVW4.38357$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[snip]
It depends on the user.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Malloy invoked - Thread now dead (was Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save
It?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:23:23 GMT
Joe Malloy writes:
> Ach, du lieber! Tholen tholens again!
Still using made-up words, eh Malloy?
>>> Tholen tholenates:
>> Still using made-up words, eh Malloy?
> Asked, answered,
Incorrect, Malloy.
> answer willfully miscontstrued, eh Tholen?
Obviously not, Malloy, given that no answer was provided by you.
>>>>> Oww! Tholen tholenates:
>>>> Still using made-up words, eh Malloy?
>>> Asked, answered,
>> Incorrect, Malloy.
> Balderdash, Tholen.
On the contrary, you are quite incorrect, Malloy, given that no
answer was provided by you.
>>> answer willfully misconstrued, eh Tholen?
>> Nope.
> Ooops, you meant "Yup."
No, I didn't, Malloy. More evidence of your reading comprehension
problem.
> You're forgiven.
You're erroneously presupposing that I meant something other than
what I wrote, Malloy.
>>>>>>> The Tholen tholens:
>>>>>> Still using made-up words, eh Malloy?
>>>>> Asked, answered
>>>> Incorrect, Malloy.
>>> Balderdash, Tholen.
>> Where is the alleged answer, Malloy?
> In a previous posting, Tholen.
Typical lack of specificity.
>>>>> and not-comprehended by Tholen.
>>>> I can't comprehend what isn't there to comprehend, Malloy.
>>> Heck, you can't comprehend what I put there for your delectation,
>>> Tholen.
>> On the contrary
> Your response does nothing but assert the contrary.
Therefore the use of "on the contrary" is appropriate, Malloy.
>> I've comprehended everything
> No, you haven't.
Yet another example of your pontification.
> Figures.
It figures that you would pontificate, Malloy.
>> you've put "there"
> I did not place "there" there, Tholen.
Non sequitur.
>> but it doesn't include an answer to my question.
> Yes it does, Tholen.
Incorrect, Malloy, given that no answer was provided by you.
>>>>>>>>> We sic Tholen onto you.
>>>>>>>> Who is "we"?
>>>>>>> The *real* question is how sic [sic!] is Tholen?
>>>>>> How ironic, coming from the person who just wrote that.
>>>>> Not nearly as ironic as the sic [sic] "induhvidual" who just typed
>>>>> that!
>>>> How ironic, coming from the person who just wrote that.
>>> Not nearly as ironic as the sic [sic] "induhvidual" who just typed that!
>> How ironic, coming from the person who just wrote that.
> Not nearly as ironic as the sic [sic] "induhvidual" who just typed that!
How ironic, coming from the person who just wrote that.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark S. Bilk)
Subject: Steve/Mike Destroys His Career -was- Linux will never progress beyond geekdome
Date: 25 May 2000 13:47:44 GMT
Steve/Mike/keys/teknite, you are an incredible fool.
Answering your own post? And with the same old lies;
it's not the first time.
No wonder you keep your identity so secret. After
all your public spam, lies, and broken promises,
no one on the entire planet will ever trust you again.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linux has the "suck-factor" to overcome.
>
>Like the commercial says "Just one look, that's all it took"
>
>And bye bye Linux.....
>
>The more folks that try it the more pissed off users there are, who
>tell other users, who tell other users and so forth.
>
>Linux will be dead in 2 years unless it does something dramatic, and
>that is highly unlikely.
>I mean they can't even give the garbage away...
>
>On Thu, 25 May 2000 02:11:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (win4win)
>wrote:
>
>>Sorry Unix/Linux geeks.. but Windows Wins.. I just installed Red Splat
>>Linux and really had to brush the dust off the Unix memories to get it
>>running. I'm so sure that your average user can wade through a Linux
>>install and deal with all those Unix-ie messages! Not. Windows has
>>NOTHING to fear until Linux can overcome its Unix-ness.
>>
>>Phtttt.
>>
>
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From: Seán Ó Donnchadha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 09:46:57 -0400
On Thu, 25 May 2000 15:08:19 +0200, Illya Vaes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>They can reverse a biased half-awake judge's interpretation of both
>>those facts and the law - a law, mind you, that is unique in its
>>vagueness, and notorious for being open to creative interpretation.
>
>You were there?
>
The way every minute of the trial was reported, I may as well have
been.
>
>Even a half-awake judge (who can blame hime if you have to wade through MS'
>baloney full time) knows more of the case as presented before him and the
>legal implications than you.
>
Yeah, yeah, I know. The judge agrees with your point of view, so now
he's superhuman, infallible.
>
>They have to stick to the same story on appeal as the one they told now.
>
I think demonstrating that Jackson pretty much closed his eyes and
ears - and literally went to sleep - every time an MS witness got up
on the stand should be enough.
>>
>>According to many observers,
>
>ZD? MS Winvocates? Lackeys?
>
Oooh!!! I just *LOVE* it when you categorize people like that.
>
>If you read his ruling for yourself, you'll see how he logically concludes,
>based on facts, why certain _possibly_ applicable precedents are in fact no
>applicable in this case.
>
IMHO, it's becoming more obvious with each court appearance that His
Narcolepsy can't see beyond the browser issue in this case. He's still
pissed off at the overturning of his idiotic injunction - he *STILL*
wants IE out of Windows. This senile nutcase wants it so badly that it
took him about twenty seconds yesterday to decide to destroy one of
the most important companies in the world. After the day's events, how
can you possibly believe he's still thinking rationally? Every lawyer
quoted in every one of yesterday's reports expressed shock at
Jackson's behavior.
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From: Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Advocacy or Mental Illness ?
Date: 25 May 2000 13:49:42 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: It's amazing how twisted the folks around here are. Linux is a stone
: age system that quite frankly the public at large, at least in the
: USA, has ignored and continues to ignore.
: Think about it. Person goes into CompUSA with $100 and is confronted
: with Windows for $89.00 and Linux for $29.00 or better yet for free.
: Yet they go for Windows every time based on market share.
: They can't even GIVE LINUX AWAY!!!!
: Linux is for lusers. It best serves folks who like to fiddle and fuss
: with their computers.
: I stopped that routine 10 years ago.
The International Data Corperation disagrees:
http://www.idc.com:8080/itforecaster/itf2000-04-11.htm
Here's a few choice excerpts:
"In the space of two years, the Linux operating system has become a
force in the IT industry."
"All of the major [UNIX] vendors have addressed Linux at varying
levels."
And a big juicy chunk of info:
"Even though the popular image of Linux casts it as a hacker and
hobbyist phenomenon, the operating system is being taken quite
seriously across the IT spectrum of industries and functions.
Although many early adopters have been in education and research
labs, IDC notes that Linux users are most concentrated in the
computer/IT industry (particularly ISPs and software developers)
and educational institutions (see Figure 1). IDC expects that over
time Linux servers will pervade all vertical markets."
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