Linux-Advocacy Digest #937, Volume #26 Tue, 6 Jun 00 18:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Canada invites Microsoft north ("John W. Stevens")
Re: Why Linux should be #1 choice for students! ("James")
Re: Canada invites Microsoft north (C Lund)
Re: Why Linux should be #1 choice for students! (Mig Mig)
Re: linuxcare failure - more proof of how OSS fails ("Calvin Ostrum")
Re: The State of the System Address (CAguy)
Re: Canada invites Microsoft north ("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: The sad Linux story (Mike Marion)
Re: SVGALib (David Steinberg)
Re: The State of the System Address (Cihl)
Re: History revision 1.27a (was Re: There is only one innovation that matters...)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: There is only one innovation that matters... (was Re: Micros~1 innovations)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Innovation (Cihl)
Re: Homebrew (Was: Beer Wars at CSMA) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: windoze 9x, what a piece of shit!
Re: There is only one innovation that matters... (was Re: Micros~1 innovations)
("Stephen S. Edwards II")
Re: History revision 1.27a (was Re: There is only one innovation that matters...)
("Stephen S. Edwards II")
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From: "John W. Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Canada invites Microsoft north
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 14:28:14 -0600
Brad BARCLAY wrote:
>
> Joseph wrote:
> >
> > Brad BARCLAY wrote:
> > >
> > ...
> > > Meanwhile, Canadian forces burned down the original White House, and
> > > destroyed the primary port on the US side of Lake Ontario (at a great
> > > loss of life - on both sides).
> > ...
> >
> > Canadian forces attacked WA DC? Did they use the Canadian Navy ? I've
> > never heard a Canadian tell me they, not the British, attacked WA DC.
>
> Sigh. Let's try this: during the American Revolutionary War, what
> nationality were the combatants fighting against the British?
In the common parlance: traitors.
> The people of Upper and Lower Canada were British subjects, but even
> back then they were refered to as Canadians.
Fine, but . . . the *MEANING* of the word "Canadian" has changed since
then. At that point in time, Canadian meant something similiar to
"Coloradoan", while today, it means something similiar to "American", or
"US citizen".
> Citizenship sometimes
> transcends governance.
Nope. Citizenship is *CONFERRED* by governments, so it therefore cannot
transcend governance.
> We can call them proto-Canadians if you like. Not all of them were
> British subjects (for example, the indiginous native peoples).
And those indigenous native peoples weren't Canadians, either.
> Refering
> to them as "British" is thus also quite incorrect.
Right. A proper reference would be to the tribe a particular Indian was
a part of.
> Most of the
> combatants were born in a place called (at that time) either "Upper
> Canada" or "Lower Canada", making them Canadians.
Your use of the term is incorrect today. Today, Canadian means "a
citizen of the nation of Canada". Back then, it may have meant:
"somebody who lives in the British colony of Canada".
In short, the term is overloaded. Your use of it is incorrect within a
modern context.
--
If I spoke for HP --- there probably wouldn't BE an HP!
John Stevens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux should be #1 choice for students!
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:44:08 +0200
Yup, wish I had Linux (and a PC) in '80. However, Win2k and the numerous
commercial packages for it would have been better for producing
reports/theses. If you are a computer science or engineering student, Linux
is ideal since it teaches the nuts and bolts of a computer, whilst Windows
hides these details. Linux takes me back to those years where we hacked
away at assembler/PLM code. Fond memories . . .
James
"Jens Prüfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dear fellow readers,
>
> Linux + LaTeX is IMHO the best choice for master's or Ph.D. thesis
> writers. The system is very stable and simply does not crash taking huge
> parts of your labour with it. A large number of great scientific tools
> is available for free. The somewhat limited number of cool games
> available make concentrating on your subject all the easier.
>
> LaTeX (which is available for Windows as well, if you are slightly less
> bold) enables the author to concentrate fully on the contents of the
> text and does never ever mess up footnotes, references, enumeration of
> equations, figures, tables ... not even when your document exceeds 500
> pages.
>
> The fact that Linux stability, emacs capabilities and LaTeX powerfull
> layout processing work so well together make it the perfect system for
> the serious student who wants to get the job done with minimum hassle.
>
> This is well known amongst Physicists and Mathematicians (who tend to
> use LaTeX anyhow) but is also true for any other
> "non-equation-producing" subjects. The very few commands needed to
> layout plain english texts are easy to comprehend even for ppl studying
> law or medicine! The result is beautiful and the well done professional
> layout of the documents is appreciated by professors who after all have
> to read and judge about it.
>
> Another interesting point is the especially easy conversion into
> standrad conform html and pdf using latex2html or pdflatex packages.
> AFAIK not even the Office 2000 Version of Word gives you PDF support out
> of the box.
>
> The plain ASCII nature of LaTeX markup make an international cooperation
> much easier than the frequent hassle with M$ Word version problems (not
> only the 95, 97 or 2000 Office versions but the national flavour as well
> ... my computer at university refused to open a document I got from
> polish colleagues insisting I had to install the far east version of
> Office 9something!)
>
> Last but not least both -- Linux as well as LaTeX -- are available as
> open source software for a large variety of systems. Students who are
> usually on a tight budget should not waste their limited funds on
> inferior products.
>
> For further references how to obtain Linux and/or LaTeX (Windows
> versions available as well) please see
>
> http://www.linux.org
>
> http://www.latex-project.org
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Jens
>
> --
> WYSIWYG is a step backwards. Human labor is used to do that
> which the computer can do better.
>
> Andrew S. Tanenbaum
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lund)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Canada invites Microsoft north
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:54:24 +0100
Apparently, the reply I posted yesterday went poof in the ether. Trying again...
In article <393b873f$1$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Germer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 06/04/2000 at 11:00 AM,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lund) said:
> > In article <393948b0$6$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Germer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Which is not a bad thing. Note all the US elderlies who rent buses so
> > > > they can go stock up on affordable medicine in Canada.
> > > You would have to show that to me.
> > I'll just refer you to 60 minutes, who showed it to *me*.
> Ah, the National Enquirer of TV. If you watch that tripe, you believe
> anything. CBS is a shill for all so-called liberal causes.
I might have given that statement some credit if it wasn't for the way you
use the word "liberal" - as if it was a bad thing.
> > > I know I paid 5 times as much US for a
> > > vial of insulin in Ottowa as I do here. I know that a bottle of 25
> > > Bufferin tablets in Ottowa cost me twice as many US dollars as they do
> > > here.
> > But if you had bought a different brand of a similar medicine...?
> You obviously don't know a damn thing about diabetes. One uses the brand
> of insulin his or her doctor prescribes or one can quickly end up dead.
Maybe you should go to a doctor that prescribes a cheaper brand of medication.
> > Socialized medicine means everybody gets free (or reasonably cheap)
> > medication. That means everybody can afford medication, and everybody
> There is not such thing as free food, free medication, free medical care.
> Someone has to pay for it.
Yup. Tax payers.
> In Canada it is the wage earners who are taxed
> beyond reason,
In your opinion, what is a "reasonable" amount of tax? Zero?
> the health care providers whose earnings are limited by
> government decree, the consumers who pay in terms of poor and/or delayed
> care.
And no care at all because you can't afford it is supposed to be better?
> > gets medication, which again leads to longer queues. Some people don't
> > want to wait for their turn (or are worried they might not live long
> > enough)
> A rather significant drawback in my opinion.
Not so big a drawback as not being able to afford medication at all.
>> so they skip ahead by going some place where the only thing that >
>> matters are your bank account. And that would be the US. If everybody >
>> could afford to pay US medical bills, the lines in the US would be just >
>> as long as they are in countries with "socialized" medicine. But the >
>> thing is, most people can't afford this.
> No, they wouldn't be.
Yes they would. The number of patients would increase.
> We live in a free economy. We would just have more
> doctors,
Really? Where would those doctors be coming from then? One of four US
doctors are already imported.
> more labs, more hospitals, etc. In fact, we have hospitals
> competing for patients today because we have an excess of hospital beds.
But do you have enough doctors? If the hospitals really want more
patients, they should try lowering their prices.
> > The US is sucking up doctors from all over the world. I think one out of
> > four US doctors are foreigners now. As a result, there are a lot of
> > doctors in the US. That means there are a lot of specialists there as
> > well, which again makes it an attractive place to go for treatment if
> > you can afford it.
> And this is a bad thing? Only in the twisted mind of a control freak who
> wants to regulate the lives of all his fellow citizens.
What's so bad about keeping medical care cheap enough for everybody to afford?
> > > > > much
> > > > > higher taxes,
> > > > Imho worth it.
> > > Then you are a sad case indeed.
> > Really? How much do you pay in medical insurance? What's the crime rate
> > in your neighborhood? How many "working poor" are there in your little
> > corner of the world?
> We are covered by my wife's pension.
How much you you have been paying if your wife didn't have a pension? That
happens, you know.
> In our township of 14,000 there were 102 felony arrests in 1999.
Hmm. My parents live in a small burb with about 5000 people. They (the
town, that is) had 4-5 burgleries last year, and that was just about it.
> > You seem to think quality of life is measured in dollars only. And you
> > call me a sad case?
> I think quality of life is measured in freedom.
And you measure freedom in money, which brings us back to measuring
quality of life in money.
> We do not pay anything
> near to the taxes a Canadian pays.
So?
> We do not get told when and where we
> can get health care.
Do the Canadians? I know we Norwegians don't.
> We do not wait days or weeks for diagnostic medical
> care (EKG, MRI, XRAY, etc.).
Dunno about the Canadians, but here in Norway, emergency cases get in
right away, while the things that aren't in such a hurry can wait.
> We pay less than half of what you do for
> gasoline.
I ride a bike. ;)
> We are not so mendacious as to soak our citizens for onerous
> taxes which are given back in large part to visitors when they leave the
> US.
Huh? Care to explain what you meant by that?
> We are not limited by government regulation as to what we can watch on TV.
Not if you can afford cable, anyway.
> We have choices as to whom we pay for natural gas to heat our homes,
> electricity, telephone service. Canadians do not.
Dunno about Canadians, but we Norwegians can do all the above.
> In many places we even have choices as to which public school we send our
> kids. Canadians do not.
See above.
> And you consider yourself free?
Yep.
> You consider living with Big Brother
> dictating where your kids attend school, what doctor you can see and when,
> from whom you get telephone, electric, gas service better than having
> multiple choices of competing suppliers better?
None of the above apply to me.
You seem to have committed the typical US right-winger fallacy of equating
socialism with communism.
--
C Lund
http://www.notam.uio.no/~clund/
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From: Mig Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux should be #1 choice for students!
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:57:47 +0200
James wrote:
> Yup, wish I had Linux (and a PC) in '80. However, Win2k and the numerous
> commercial packages for it would have been better for producing
> reports/theses. If you are a computer science or engineering student, Linux
> is ideal since it teaches the nuts and bolts of a computer, whilst Windows
> hides these details. Linux takes me back to those years where we hacked
> away at assembler/PLM code. Fond memories . . .
Then i think you should play around with reports/theses with Micros~1 Word
and please keep it simple by just playing around with bulleted lists and
tabulators. Then come back an tell me about it :-)
(Oh... please select the Office 2000 version since its the newest)
So much for the commercial packages for Windows.
Cheers
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From: "Calvin Ostrum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linuxcare failure - more proof of how OSS fails
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 16:59:06 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (billy ball) wrote:
> On 5 Jun 2000 13:36:34 -0500,
> Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Just one of many things that windows is unable to do sensibly.
>>You can't even get it to move itself to another disk or
>>partition with XCOPY or copy/paste. However if you let
>>DOS do an fdisk, format/s first, then mount the old/new
>>partitions under Linux, a 'cp -a' from the old to new
>>partition will give you a working win95/98.
> this is what i do with a new 'puter out of the box...
>
> 1) create Linux partition
> 2) mount the DOS partition
> 3) tar cvzf factory.tgz /mnt/dos
You seem to be missing a step here. Don't most computers
out of the box currently come with the entire disk assigned
to one DOS partition? (I don't know for sure, my computer
came in lots of little boxes without any partitions or
operating systems). So where is the room for a Linux
partition?
> i then stash the tarball away... if i ever need to sell the 'puter i can
> always recreate the dos partition easily
Has either of you ever actually installed a version of
Windows 95 this way? I think you will find that if you do,
Windows 95 will report that its file system is very, very
fragmented. That's what I have found.
===========================================================================
Calvin Ostrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===========================================================================
Once we enter the world for our temporary stay in it, there is no
alternative but to try to decide what to believe and how to live,
and the only way to do that is by trying to decide what is the case
and what is right. --- Thomas Nagel, "The Last Word"
===========================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CAguy)
Subject: Re: The State of the System Address
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:04:49 GMT
On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:44:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The
Ghost In The Machine) wrote:
[SNIP]
>> 1. Much of the GNU/Linux operating system is free software, giving the
>>users the same rights as the developers or software vendor.
>
>This is not an advantage in certain applications. Check the license
>carefully!
>
>There was a fairly long thread some months back about how "free"
>the GNU public license actually is. My take on this is probably
>a reasonable one, though; if a company incorporates unmodified
>GNU source code into a project, it need merely note it; if a company
>incorporates modified GNU source code into a project, it needs to
>publish its modifications back into the GNU system, as a public service.
>These modifications do not need to be anything more sophisticated than
>hooks into their own proprietary code, however -- think C++ virtual
>methods, for example, or callbacks into C function pointers, allowing
>"arm's length" development.
>
>Richard Stallman may complain (I don't know; I've never met him
>personally :-) ), but I think this is the tack most companies
>would take with GNU code. At least, I hope so.
Richard Stallman may not only complain...he'll likely sue your ass off
for violating the license. No compainy is going to take that chance.
You simply can't link (static or dynamic) your proprientary code with
GPL code...and still keep your code proprientary.
The license you descibe is more like the Mozilla public license (MPL).
Which is alot more business friendly then the GPL.
James
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Canada invites Microsoft north
Date: 6 Jun 2000 21:10:01 GMT
Mike Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: On Sun, 6 Jun 3900 12:15:24, Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: wrote:
: > On 06/05/2000 at 01:48 PM,
: > Brad BARCLAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
: >
: > > If people born in Canada don't want to stay, I have no problem with
: > > that. It helps make more room for people from the rest of the world who
: > > *want* to be Canadians and live in our great country.
: >
: > We were planning to spend two weeks in Nova Scotia in August. However,
: > your absolute chauvinsim, revisionist (at best) history, and arrogance
: > have made me rethink. I think we'll head across the pond to Scotland
: > instead.
: >
: Actually I contacted our Canadian people at the US border , and
: told then to expect your arrival so they could turn you away as a
: bigot, and a non worthy visitor to Canada. Go away Germer!!! We
: don't want your type in Canada!
: PS you should give Windows NT a try. The OS/2 community doesn't
: want you either!!
What makes you think _WE_ want him? He's a twerp.
Give him to the Linux community... I'm sure they'd
love him.
--
.-----.
|[_] :| Stephen S. Edwards II | NetBSD: Free of hype and license.
| = :| "Artificial Intelligence -- The engineering of systems that
| | yield results such as, 'The answer is 6.7E23... I think.'"
|_..._| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.primenet.com/~rakmount
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From: Mike Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The sad Linux story
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:26:57 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As always, we can leave it to a Linux user to completely, and
> thoroughly, miss the point. Precisely what does the function of the
> program have to do with whether it should conform? On other platforms,
> simple text editors conform to the rest of the system just fine. The
> argument that text editors shouldn't because they are not word
> processors is just completely irrelevant to the point.
That wasn't my argument.. my argument is that vi does exactly what it was
written for. Whereas wordperfect is a word processor that has added many
features and such over time, vi is a small program (which actually has a lot of
power if you know how to use it) that was written for a specific purpose.
Exactly how does vi not "conform" to the system(s) it's installed on?
> Just because you didn't understand it doesn't make it "horrendous". I'd
> actually be quite curious what you're criticisms were. Most people find
> that the VMS system language is considerably more consistent and
> orthgonal than what you are used to with DOS and Unix. Which part was
> horrendous?
It's been a long time, so I my memory may be wrong, but I remember that instead
of a simply cd (or even chdir) you had to issue something of the form: set
def=[usr2:me:dir] or something like that. However I did figure out how to do
some scripting and made my own cd command.
The system did have some inherent flaws in it though.. like one user in our
class (no it wasn't me) made the mistake of naming a macro (in asm) the same
name of an asm command, then used that command in the macro def.. which would
cause an infinite expansion and bring the system to a virtual stop. If the user
tried to cancel the assembly it would recover in about 15 minutes or so. Most
unix boxes I've worked on (if you don't screw up the limits) will usually remain
much more usable, so that at least an admin can get in and kill the process much
faster. Then again, the power of that box was probably about a 486, so as much
faster machine now might not have suffered as much or taken as long to recover.
--
Mike Marion - Unix SysAdmin/Engineer, Qualcomm Inc.
_Colonel Slade_: "There is nothing like the sight of an amputated
spirit. There is no prosthetic for that." - From _Scent of a Woman_
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Steinberg)
Subject: Re: SVGALib
Date: 6 Jun 2000 21:36:01 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Alt-PrintScreen and open up Windows Paint and paste.
: Instant screen dump.....
Steve,
Screen dumps are easy in X, too.
Obviously, you don't know what SVGALib is. If you did, you wouldn't be
making that comparison.
Please stop making yourself look dumb.
--
David Steinberg -o) In a world without walls
Computer Engineering Undergrad, UBC / \ and fences, who needs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v Windows and Gates?
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From: Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The State of the System Address
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:37:42 GMT
JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
> On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 20:35:00 GMT, Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I've heard many people say lately that Linux "isn't fit for the
> >desktop". That's a bit strange. How could it not be; i'm using it as a
> >desktop OS while writing this reply, from KDE, with Netscape (as you
> >can see). If Linux hadn't been fit for desktop use, i would never be
> >able to do this.
>
> Much of the "theoretical benefit" of Windows is squandered
> by an "everything & the kitchen sink mentality" that pervades
> that platform. Also, any AltOS application that follows that
> paradigm can quite easily replicate the end user benefit of
> Win32 even in the absence of many "essential system features".
In my experience a standard installation of Windows, as compared to
Linux, IS quite bare. I think if piracy hadn't existed, Windows would
never have been an option to most users. Do you know any private users
who actually purchased MS-Office?
It has come to my attention, however, that a lot of these "essential
system features" are actually being included with Linux more and more.
Pretty soon (with XFree86 4.0) there will be a standard OpenGL and
possibly OpenAL implementation. XDND will quickly replace and other
existing cut 'n paste features. The desktop look 'n feel is getting
more coherent with each new version is the big GUI's, like Gnome and
KDE.
In my humble opinion, this is a good thing. I also think it's
important for Linux to follow it's own evolution/development as much
as possible, as opposed to just copying everything from
Mac/Windows/Unix.
Right now we are basically out of place blaming MS for lack of
innovation, as we haven't done any innovating ourselves yet.
> Who needs a clipboard when most of your users are only using
> what's a single application anyways?
Problem is, that when users get used to using a certain OS daily, they
will use whatever works well, and avoid the rest. I think that's why
Windows users, and Mac users for that matter, usually avoid working
with two or more programs at the same time.
Typical features like the clipboard would therefore actually be more
useful to Linux than it is for Windows.
> When I ran Windows, I found that facility most useful for using
> Windows quite unlike most people around me. Ditto for OLE.
>
> [deletia]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: History revision 1.27a (was Re: There is only one innovation that
matters...)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:37:57 GMT
On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:51:46 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Adams)
wrote:
STOP CROSS POSTING YOU IDIOTS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: There is only one innovation that matters... (was Re: Micros~1
innovations)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:39:27 GMT
On 5 Jun 2000 20:07:10 GMT, "Stephen S. Edwards II"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
STOP CROSSPOSTING YOU BUMBASS SON OF A BITCH.
Maybe now you'll understand.
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From: Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Innovation
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:47:02 GMT
In a reply to someone, i reminded myself of the fact that the
Linux-community as a whole hasn't really come up with any good
innovations yet. We're blaming Microsoft for something we're ourselves
guilty of.
Everything we have is basically copied from Unix, Apple and Microsoft.
Maybe it would be good to start a thread about this. Would anybody
have any ideas? Is anybody missing something from the whole of OS's?
Please, no trolls/flames about Linux being 'perfect', because nothing
ever is, there's ALWAYS room for improvement. No comparisons with
other OS's either, please. Try to make this a pure Linux issue.
Maybe somebody has an good idea for better user interaction? For
instance, talk to your computer and have it respond by talking to you,
or something. Good ideas for interaction with the physically/mentally
impaired?
Maybe there are some good ideas about performance or computer
architectures? Endokernel/Exokernel? Something other than CPU/MEM/IO?
Neural networks?
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Subject: Re: Homebrew (Was: Beer Wars at CSMA)
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:41:10 GMT
On 6 Jun 2000 15:59:32 GMT, "Stephen S. Edwards II"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
STOP CROSS POSTING YOU DICKHEAD.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: windoze 9x, what a piece of shit!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:06:23 GMT
On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 19:22:18 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Typical Linux...You need all of the add ons to perform basic
>functions.
>
>
>"Sir, would you like 4 tires with that new Corvette or will you take
>the stock model"?
>
>What a joke....
"My ford didn't come with a radio; (actually I'm too stupid to be able
to find it in the dash)"
How pathetic.
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: There is only one innovation that matters... (was Re: Micros~1
innovations)
Date: 6 Jun 2000 22:06:23 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On 5 Jun 2000 20:07:10 GMT, "Stephen S. Edwards II"
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: STOP CROSSPOSTING YOU BUMBASS SON OF A BITCH.
: Maybe now you'll understand.
Oh I understand what you're whining. I just don't care.
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|[_] :| Stephen S. Edwards II | NetBSD: Free of hype and license.
| = :| "Artificial Intelligence -- The engineering of systems that
| | yield results such as, 'The answer is 6.7E23... I think.'"
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From: "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.be.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.be.advocacy
Subject: Re: History revision 1.27a (was Re: There is only one innovation that
matters...)
Date: 6 Jun 2000 22:07:58 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:51:46 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Adams)
: wrote:
: STOP CROSS POSTING YOU IDIOTS.
Stop whining, you twit.
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|[_] :| Stephen S. Edwards II | NetBSD: Free of hype and license.
| = :| "Artificial Intelligence -- The engineering of systems that
| | yield results such as, 'The answer is 6.7E23... I think.'"
|_..._| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.primenet.com/~rakmount
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