Linux-Advocacy Digest #713, Volume #28 Mon, 28 Aug 00 18:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: NETCRAFT: I'm confused ("Rich C")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: How low can they go...? (Voltage Spike)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (C Lund)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:54:28 -0400
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 03:43:36 GMT,
> > ZnU, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, brought forth the
> > following words...:
> >
> > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe
> > >Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> > The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > [1] AFDC comprised only 8% of the federal budget, IIRC.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Let's see. 8% of $1.7 trillion is $136 BILLION. Or $500 for every
> > >> man, woman, and child in the U.S.
> > >>
> > >> Not to mention the billions being spent by the states, as well.
> > >>
> > >> And the other welfare programs.
> > >>
> > >> "Only" 8%, indeed.
> > >
> > >What do you pay in taxes? Take 8% of that. Ask yourself if it's
> > >worth that amount to prevent millions of children from starving to
> > >death.
> >
> > Why do you assume they would starve? when less than 25% actually goes
> > to them (the rest getting eaten up in admin costs, mostly beauracrat
> > salaries)
>
> Government is complex stuff. Without the bureaucrat salaries that 25%
> (if that's the real figure) wouldn't get to those people.
Government salaries account for approx. 75% of the cost of welfare.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:56:10 -0400
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > ZnU wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:30:33 GMT, ZnU wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >That private school gets to pick who it accepts, right? Will it
> > > > > >take kids with serious learning disabilities? Behavioral/emotional
> > > > > >problems? Below average intelligence? You can't just leave these
> > > > > >people out of the system; if you don't do your best to educate
> > > > > >them they'll only be even more of a burden on society later.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd like to develop this line of reasoning further. Kulkis seems to
> > > > > be trying to sell us on an exclusivist system. He points out that
> > > > > exclusive schools(1) display better performance. But his arguments
> > > > > fall short on two counts:
> > > > >
> > > > > (a) Excluding certain groups will not result in a
> > > > > better-educated
> > > > > population. All it does is hide the less capable from view
> > > > > of educational stats ( like SAT scores ). In short, it's a
> > > > > stats-scam.
> > > > >
> > > > > (b) It's not even obvious that the more gifted students would
> > > > > benefit
> > > > > from exclusionist practices. You'd need to show that *the
> > > > > same students* would have done worse under a less
> > > > > exclusionist system.
> > > > >
> > > > > In short, Kulkis's exclusionist vision has an agenda of hiding the
> > > > > less able from the statistics, rather than actually improving the
> > > > > quality of education.
> > > > >
> > > > > (1) By this, I mean schools with a self-selected population.
> > > > > This includes Catholic schools, not just snob-value schools.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So your proposal is.... stick with the current system which is not
> > > > merely failing, but failing catastrophically.
> > >
> > > You admit that public education systems in other countries are much
> > > better than ours. Why do you insist the only way to fix education in
> > > this country is to privatize it?
> >
> > Because to "fix" it European or Oriental style means giving MORE
> > control to the same people who are fucking it up already.
> >
> > Is any of this getting through to you?
>
> You're complaining that public education doesn't work, and to prove your
> point you're pointing out that public education works much better in
> countries that take all the steps the "leftists" want to take here. From
The problem is, the American K-12 education system is ALREADY in the
hands of the lefties.
> this you conclude the "leftists" are wrong and the only solution is
> privatization. Huh?
Government K-12 schools get their money by gunpoint.
Private schools only get money if they can prove their worth.
Spot the difference.
>
> --
> This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
> occurred during shipment.
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | <http://znu.dhs.org>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Rich C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NETCRAFT: I'm confused
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:04:29 -0400
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:83lq5.7906$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Jim Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >Actually, netcrafts survey is not a very accurate representation.
Since
> the
> > >advent of "domain squating", there are companies that own literally
10's
> of
> > >thousands of domains that all point to the same "You can buy this
domain"
> > >page on the same server. This really skews the statistics.
> > >
> > >The number of IIS servers being installed are still growing. And it
> seems
> > >to be growing at a fairly regular rate. The Apache servers are growing
> at a
> > >faster rate, which increases overall marketshare, causing it to appear
> that
> > >IIS's market share is going down, when it's growing at the same rate it
> was
> > >the previous month.
> >
> > Which, since the market is growing faster, means that IIS's market share
> > _IS_ going down.
>
> That depends on what you mean by market share. When I say market share, I
> mean the number of servers that have IIS on them, versus the number of
> servers that have Apache on them. Not the number of domains that are
hosted
> by each server application.
Typical wintroll crap. "Market Share" _by definition_ means a percentage of
total sales for the market:
"Ratio of sales of company's product or product line to the total market
sales for that product or product line. "
"Expressed as a percentage. "
(source: http://www.rpi.edu/~holmec/ms.html)
Thus if Apache's sever count is growing faster than IIS's server count, MS's
market share is _dwindling_, because the MS's ratio of servers to the total
is getting smaller. (Basic 7th grade math.)
>
> Netcrafts survey does not show that information.
>
> > >No, not really. If you look at it the correct way, you see that Linux
is
> > >not the dominant OS platform. Most IIS sites are single user sites
> (though
> > >there are a few big multi-host sites on IIS). We don't know how many
of
> > >those Linux sites are really the same site with a different domain.
*IF*
> > >(and i'm making these number up obviously), the average number of sites
> per
> > >server is 3 for Linux, and the average for IIS is 1.5, then there are
> half
> > >as many Linux servers as there are NT servers. But since we don't know
> this
> > >information (Netcraft doesn't break out unique IP's, just Unique domain
> > >names... and even if they did it wouldn't prove much since you can have
> > >multiple IP's on the same server) it's hard for these numbers to really
> mean
> > >anything.
> >
> > Go visit netcraft, and look for their comparison when taking into
account
> > the size of the site. Not just wethere there is a web page there holding
> > place.
>
> Netcrafts survey does not differentiate between them. It does
differentiate
> between "active" and "inactive" domains. "inactive" by their definition
> appears to mean that more than one domain points to the same page, however
> most of those domain squating services use dynamic content to list the
> domain you came to them from on their page, making the pages different for
> each domain, thus making it appear "active".
>
> > >> Don't you people find this funny?
> > >
> > >Yes, but not in the same way you do.
> >
> > What I find amusing, is that no matter how you play with the numbers, 2
> facts
> > remain, IIS is losing marketshare (yes, absolute numbers are increasing,
> > but market share is down) and Apache is increasing market share, and
this
> > is a trend that is least 1 year old.
>
> Only when you define "market share" as "percentage of hosted domains".
That's what it is. Unless you want to redefine _IS_.
HAHAHA
--
Rich C.
"Because light travels faster than sound, many people appear to be
intelligent, until you hear them speak."
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:58:47 -0400
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > ZnU wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ZnU wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe
> > > > > Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ZnU wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Marion
> > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Perry Pip wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > And you want my taxes to pay for vouchers for that shit?
> > > > > > > > > > No way.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As someone who started out in public schools, then switched
> > > > > > > > > to private school, I can say without a doubt that the
> > > > > > > > > education I got at the private school was _much_ better
> > > > > > > > > then I could've gotten in the public system. My parents
> > > > > > > > > sacrificed a lot for my sister and I (and we both let them
> > > > > > > > > know that we appreciate what they did) to go to private
> > > > > > > > > school. I have plenty of friends that went to public
> > > > > > > > > school that wish they could've also gone to private school
> > > > > > > > > and talk about how bad they were/are.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It depends where you live. In rich suburbs, the public
> > > > > > > > schools are of very high quality. They're properly funded. In
> > > > > > > > inner cities, they're woefully underfunded, and they're
> > > > > > > > horrible.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > BTW, I think the proper system would be to give a tax
> > > > > > > > > credit for someone that sends their kids to private
> > > > > > > > > schools.. which wouldn't cost you anything in taxes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The solution is to properly fund inner city schools, not
> > > > > > > > drain even more money away from them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The city of Detroit spends $11,000 per pupil...almost TRIPLE
> > > > > > > what many private schools spend.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And yet, the Detroit Public Schools are among the worst in the
> > > > > > > country.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The small private school my kids used to go to cost $3,300 per
> > > > > > student. I believe the tuition was about half the expense (an
> > > > > > endowment paid the rest). So, for $6,600 per student, we got
> > > > > > class sizes of no more than 20 students, quite adequate
> > > > > > facilities, and an education that put the kids (on average) at
> > > > > > about the 75th percentile, based on SAT scores.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's not about money.
> > > > >
> > > > > That private school gets to pick who it accepts, right? Will it
> > > > > take kids with serious learning disabilities? Behavioral/emotional
> > > > > problems?
> > > >
> > > > The public schools have the SAME abilities...only, the refuse to
> > > > exercise them.
> > > >
> > > > The public schools can discipline those who are disruptive in the
> > > > classroom offenders...but they refuse to do so.
> > >
> > > They don't refuse to do so. The problem is that "discipline" doesn't
> > > always work.
> >
> > Then expel them.
>
> And then pay to have them sit in jail. Which is much more expensive.
> Smart.
Why should we pay for their incarceration. Put them to work doing
something to earn their keep.
>
> > > > The public schools can expel those who disrupt the school, but they
> > > > refuse to do so.
> > >
> > > And then where do they go? Again, if you don't pay for their schooling
> > > now, you'll be paying for their incarceration later.
> >
> > Where they will serve as an example to others.
>
> If it were that simple, there wouldn't be kids causing trouble in school
> right now.
>
> > > > Hoisted by their own petards.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually, it's the tax-paying public who is paying for an K-12
> > > > "education" but the money is instead being used for left-wing
> > > > indoctrination.
> > >
> > > What "left-wing indoctrination" would this be? Teaching kids about
> >
> > Global warming and other Eco-leftism
>
> Global warming is not "Eco-leftism" any more than quantum mechanics is.
>
> > Pro-homosexuality propaganda
>
> Examples?
"Daddy has a roommate"
"Heather has two mommies"
>
> > Socialism
>
> Examples? Most school history texts I've seen have an
> American/capitalist bias, actually.
Your information is at least 10 years out of date.
>
> > > sharing, tolerance and social responsibility? Yeah! That's downright
> > > Communist!
>
> --
> This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
> occurred during shipment.
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | <http://znu.dhs.org>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Voltage Spike)
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: 28 Aug 2000 22:05:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:00:33 GMT, fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
>$289 for Windows ME...
>
>...that's MORE EXPENSIVE than Windows 2000 Professional.
>
>
>I don't want to get overly cynical here[1] but it seems to
>me like this is a marketing excercise to find out just how
>ignorant/gullible the "buying public" really is.
>
>[1] I'm sure that this *must* be more that Windows 98 with a
>copy of the latest Windows Media Player added.... right?
Not that I support Microsoft in any way, the site (at least now)
says $209. I was actually planning on buying a copy (IE 3.0 (which comes
with 95) crashes while going to the download page for IE 5, even on a
clean install) so that I would not have to download the updates. I
thought, "Heck! $60, so that means maybe $50 or lower in stores. I paid
more for Diablo 2." Now I see that it is a "limited time special upgrade
version" that supposedly would not work with my Windows 95 system.
Oh, well. MS could be wrong. After all Office 97 Upgrade can be
installed as a full version by pointing it back to the CD when it looks
for the existing copy ;)
Logan Kennelly
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lund)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 00:11:30 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Another republican living in an ivory tower.
> Fuck you. I've never been a republican.
You sure sound like one.
> As for ivory towers...I've been flat broke a couple times in my
> life. The difference between me and welfare slobs is realizing
> that
I wasn't talking about "welfare slobs", I was talking about the working poor.
> A) There was only one person responsible for me getting into the mess:
> ME and
> B) The only person who can truly get me out is: ME.
And sometimes "ME" is not enough. Sometimes you fail for no fault of your own.
> > When you work a full-time job and *still* can't afford to pay the rent,
> > you're among the working poor. Some even have *two* full-time jobs and are
> If you're working a full-time job and *still* can't afford to pay
> the rent, then I might suggest getting rid of the car with $700/month
> payments,
Car? No car.
> and quit blowing the rest on booze/drugs/hookers or whatever
> the fuck it is that you're wasting your money on.
You don't need to be doing drugs/booze/hookers/whatever to be among hte
working ´poor. All it takes is having a job that pays very little. If
you're trying to raise a kid or two, then you're even worse off.
> One can go practically *anywhere* and find living quarters for
> less than $200/month. Will it be a mansion? Of course not.
> So what. If that's all you can afford, then THAT is where
> you stay...deal with it.
You also need to eat. You need clothes. You need water. You might have
kids, and they cost a small fortune on their own.
> > barely capable of making ends meet. Not because of laziness. Not because
> > they have expencive habits or do drugs or buy crap they can't afford, but
> > simply because they don't get paid very much. When you have two full-time
> > jobs, you don't have the time to go looking for a better job. In fact,
> > those one or two jobs might be the only ones you could get. Not everybody
> > has a rich daddy who could pay for college. Not everybody qualifies for a
> > scholarship. And not everybody had a life situation that allowed them to
> > get a proper education. Life is tough on some people whetehr they deserve
> > it or not.
> You are truly out of touch with fucking reality.
Your "they're poor because they deserve to be poor" attitude is what's out
of touch with reality.
--
C Lund
http://www.notam.uio.no/~clund/
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:02:38 -0400
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:31:25 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >
> > > >> They don't refuse to do so. The problem is that "discipline"
> > > >> doesn't always work.
> > > >
> > > >Then expel them.
> > >
> > > Your emphasis on "expelling" people is not going to raise
> > > educational standards. In short, you seek to raise "performance"
> > > statistics by hiding weaker students from those statistics. In
> > > short, this is a scam, because it doesn't do anything to increase
> > > the nation's education level. It merely makes certain statistics
> > > easier to misapply.
> > >
> > > >> And then where do they go? Again, if you don't pay for their
> > > >> schooling now, you'll be paying for their incarceration later.
> > > >
> > > >Where they will serve as an example to others.
> > >
> > > "serve as an example" ? If the point of the criminal justice system
> > > was to "make examples" of people, wouldn't it be more effective to
> > > publically execute them or stone them to death ?
> > >
> > > Be aware that the kind of barbarism you are advocating no longer
> > > exists in civilised countries.
> > >
> > > >> What "left-wing indoctrination" would this be? Teaching kids
> > > >> about
> > > >
> > > >Global warming and other Eco-leftism
> > >
> > > What is wrong with discussing environmental issues in schools ? I
> > > don't recall any given view being "pushed".
> >
> > Pushing LIES is directly contrary to the purpose of education.
>
> Why are all those scientists telling lies?
>
> > > >Pro-homosexuality propaganda
> > >
> > > Why are you so strongly opposed to homosexuality ? I notice you
> > > offered no
> >
> > Ever hear of AIDS?
>
> AIDS spreads just as well or better though heterosexual sex. Some of the
Then where is the much-ballyhood heterosexual explosion of AIDS
in the US, which the AIDS activists have been predicting for over
2 decades now.
AIDS is an epidemic in among two groups
1) I.V. drug users
2) homosexual men.
> countries with the highest AIDS rates in the world have virtually no
> homosexuality.
Nobody has ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of
the population of sub-Saharan Africa. Also, there is a *LOT*
more homosexual behavior there than people are admitting to.
Simply put, it *extremely* rare for a man to get AIDS from
heterosexual sex.
>
> But of course here again science must be wrong because you say so.
>
> --
> This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
> occurred during shipment.
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | <http://znu.dhs.org>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:03:12 -0400
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" escribió:
> > > >
> > > > Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" escribió:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > But the USA is the only country where the leftists have
> > > > > > > > committed to causing societal collapse from within. If
> > > > > > > > the US is weakened, the rest of the world is easily
> > > > > > > > blackmailed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What exactly are you talking about? The more "leftist"
> > > > > > > countries, on average, have lower poverty rates and better
> > > > > > > educational systems than we do. How do you account for
> > > > > > > this? Do they simply have fewer of these
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The leftists in THIS country are in collaboration with the
> > > > > > leftists in the other countries. The overall goal is to
> > > > > > weaken the US relative to the other countries, so that the US
> > > > > > will become even weaker than them. Simply put...a large
> > > > > > percentage of the education establishment should be put on
> > > > > > trial for treason.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you not have a brain capable of figuring this out
> > > > > > yourself?
> > > > >
> > > > > Aaron, are you claiming that there is a conspiracy between
> > > > > school teachers in the US, and, say, the french education
> > > > > minister, to make the french students superior to the US ones?
> > > >
> > > > The NEA leadership is overrun with Marxists.
> > >
> > > What's the NEA?
> >
> > National Education Association, the leftist union that controls the
> > teaching establishment.
> >
> > Read any of their publications, and it is quite obvious that they are
> > a bunch of Marxists.
>
> I'm sure you can quote some of this Marxist literature for us here.
I don't keep NEA rags in my house.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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