Linux-Advocacy Digest #892, Volume #28            Mon, 4 Sep 00 14:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E.            (Roberto 
Alsina)
  Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop 
platform (2:1)
  Re: ZDNet reviews W2K server; I think you'll be surprised.... (Stuart Fox)
  Re: Computer and memory
  Re: Computer and memory
  Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E.           Ballard       
says    Linux growth stagnating
  Re: Computer and memory
  Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Sun cannot use Java for their servers!! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Sun cannot use Java for their servers!! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E.           
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 14:55:12 -0300

Donovan Rebbechi escribió:
> 
> On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:10:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >opponents resources, it would be Trolltech's fault.  That is the one of the
> >claws of FUD that makes people hesitent to produce a drop in replacement for
> >Qt.
> 
> The only thing preventing anyone from writing a drop-in replacement is
> lack of interest.
> 
> >If it is a fact that the harmony project has died from lack of interest what
> >has caused that lack of interest?  Was it because of satisfaction with Qt?
> >Was it the technical difficulty of the project?  Or, was it the FUD from
> >Trolltech?
> 
> To answer this question, we need to ask what the goal of the Harmony
> project was. The goal was to produce a free QT version. At the time
> Harmony was founded, Qt did not satisfy the OpenSource definition, and
> was regarded as non-free. The QPL satisfied the OpenSource definition,
> and RMS, Redhat, and the Harmony project, and most of the free software
> community were in agreement that QT really was free. The immediate
> consequence ( and FYI, the Harmony project was abandoned shortly after
> the QPL announcement ) was that Troll Tech had, by virtue of changing
> their licensed, addressed the problem that the Harmony project was founded
> to solve.
> 
> >Of couse this many soon all become a moot point with the release of Qt/Unix
> >2.2 under teh GPL.  Although this message does reinforces point of
> >centention.  A possible true reason for KDE to have used Qt instead of
> >somethine else, since Matthias Ettrich, founder of the KDE project is a
> >Trolltech employee.
> 
> Well this would only make sense if TT hired him before he founded KDE.

Which they didn't. IIRC they hired him around the date of KDE 1.0, which
was about 2 years later.

-- 
Roberto Alsina (KDE developer, MFCH)

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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Inferior Engineering of the Win32 Platform - was Re: Linsux as a desktop 
platform
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 17:35:12 GMT


> > The thread id about the half dropping nature of it. You can't drop
stuff
> > on to buttons on the taskbar, you drag, wait drag a bit more then
drop
> > Ie drag over the button, wait for the app to be raised, drag it on
to
> > the app, then drop.
> >
> > If you drop on to the button itself, you get an error telling you
stuff
> > can't be dropped on to the task bar.
> >
> > I'm sayng this is wierd, inconsistend behaviour of DnD, since  it is
a
> > little on the ocnvoluted side, and Erik is saying, "no its not",
they're
> > buttons, so you shouldn't be able to drop stuff on them anyway. Now
the
> > thread is going in circles.
>
> I don't get it.  Why would you *want* the behavior you describe?  I
mean,
> what good would it do?  If I dropped an image over a minimized Word
button,
> how would it know where to put the image in the Word document?  If I
were to
> drop some text over a minimized Photoshop button, how would it know
where to
> put the text?  This kind of behavior has too many problems for me to
think
> of.
>
> What you're not seeming to get is that the buttons on the taskbar
don't
> represent running *apps*, per se, but running *processes* or
*instances* of
> apps.  It's not like MacOS where you can have an app open without even
any
> windows up.  Now, some instances can have multiple documents open, but
it
> doesn't mean they don't behave in the same way, as an instance.  In
the
> whole windows paradigm, I just don't see any way that the behavior
you're
> describing would work, let alone be useful.

I understand the difference between a process and an app sitting on
disk, which is not executing.
If you drop, say, an html document on netscape it opens it, which I
think is sensible behaviour.

The vast majority of documents I deal with, I don't randomly imbed them
in various places, I open them. It makes sense to open a document when
it is dropped in the icon (representation, so task bar buttons count) ap
an app, whether running or not (also, it is awkward to drop stuff on to
desktop icons, since you have to minimize everything first). Secondly,
if you are, say, dragging a block of text, it makes no sense to `open'
it, so then it would make sense raising an app so that the block of text
can be imbedded. I'm sure it is intelligent enough to do that.


-Ed


--
BBC Computer 32K
Acorn DFS
Basic
>*MAIL ku.ca.xo.gne@rje98u (backwards, if you want to talk to me)


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From: Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: ZDNet reviews W2K server; I think you'll be surprised....
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 17:43:56 GMT

In article <8p0fb3$26d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > In many companies that would require a complete overhaul of DNS
and
> > > re-addressing of their workstations. Many places I have worked did
> > _not_
> > > all their MS stuff to one network, Unix and Mac to another. Poor
> > design,
> > > Maybe, but this is the REAL world and not everything is clean or
> well
> > > designed. The SysAdmin that forgets that is in for big problems
> > rolling
> > > out W2K's DNS.
> >
> > We do it with a couple of lines in the login script
> > if "%OS%=="Windows_NT" cscript ntdns.vbs
> > else cscript win9xdns.vbs
>
> ??? you miss understood... What if you have BOTH Unix and Windows
> _already_ on the same set of IP addresses with the SAME domain
> configured?

What if?  Big deal, you script the changes.

>A LOT of time needs to be spent RECONFIUGRING MANY installed
> clients! DHCP might help IF and ONLY IF you were already setup with
> DHCP! You keep talking as if you do have a large installed base that
is
> perfectly setup. that is NOT the case in many sites! Many sites have
> WIndows AND Unix on the same IP segment, on the same Domain with ALL
> info HARD CODED (no DHCP). It would be a nightmare to reconfigure the
> network the way you discribe! Why should I have to worry about what
OS I
> am running to set up DNS??? Shouldn't DNS be STANDARD????

Where did I mention DHCP?  I mentioned changing the DNS settings for
all Windows based hosts globally & unattended by a few lines in a login
script, hardly a burden on a sysadmin.  If you really want DNS to be
standard, feel free to point your *nix boxes at the Windows 2000 DNS.
However, the resistance of *nix admins to give up control of the DNS is
why I suggested a Windows based subdomain.

I can't see the nightmare scenario you suggest.  It is trivial to
rollout changes of this nature to all Windows based hosts with minimal
effort, and no client visit required.  If all you need to do is change
Windows based machines, the technologies are all already there, you
just have to understand how to use them.

As for DNS being standard, it really doesn't matter what you point at
as long as it works...  Windows 2000 based DNS is minimal admin - set
and forget and clients register themselves (or are registered by the
DHCP server) - as opposed to updating a text file.

>
> >
> > Readdressing of workstations is a *minor* issue, and the system is
> > really no more complicated than before - you just have a few extra
DNS
> > servers which the NT admins (typically not also the Unix admins)
> manage.
> >
> > >
> > > And what about those multi boot (linux and W2k) boxes????
> > >
> > What about them?  Win2K box registers itself in the AD DNS, Linux
is a
> > static entry in the Unix DNS as normal.  If they share an IP
address,
> > then you have for all intents and purposes an alias to it with the
> > Linux hostname.
>
> sounds like a lot of work for NOTHING! why sould I have to worry about
> this at all??? shouldn't DNS be STANDARD for ALL OS's??? Why sould I
> have to worry what OS I am running to configure DNS? Why when multi
> booting can't I use DHCP for BOTH systems? Why do I have to
reconfigure
> my installed domain base to fit MS's DNS>????

Like I say in another post, if you want to simplify the DNS, use BIND
8.1 (?) or later on your *nix box to provide the DNS infrastructure for
Windows & *nix.  There's more than one way to skin a cat, whichever
fits your infrastructure best is going to be different for each
instance.  Where I work, we simply set up a subdomain nt.mydomain.com,
forward everything else to the *nix DNS & no problem.  I have yet to
see a problem with this.

I still don't see why you're making this out to be such a big issue.
It would seem to me to be a lack of understanding on your part of the
different ways of using Windows 2000 DNS.


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:33:20 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:%lEs5.31994$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> - The America is descriminating by not allowing strong encryption
exporting.
>
> I've already addressed the first hogwash point, now onto the second.
>
> They've lifted some of the restrictions but again, the fact that Britian
> has lifted their restrictions doesn't really mean diddly because they
> don't have much to protect. The Software industry in the U.K. is slow
> at best, stifled at worse (see BT plight as a related effect).
>
> Lifting the restriction in the US means a whole lot more because we
> have many softwares that serve much more critical purposes and could be
> used in very bad ways. Of course you know this already, I'm explaining
> the obvious, right? Appearently not as you have brought up this dicussion.
>
> Besides, what are you all waiting on America for software for. Why
> don't you get things going and right your own and tell us to bugger off.
> It's certainly better than you sitting here bitching and moaning about
> how the world isn't fair.
>

Chad, I am sure that you are aware that the federal government classifies
encryption technology/software as munitions.  That is the reason for the
export restrictions, not to protect the software industry.



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:36:45 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Grega Bremec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ...and Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> used the keyboard:
>
>...there's an ancient Japanese proverb that
> says,
>
> "Don't give the beggar the fish he wants - teach him how to catch them
> instead."

I have never hear that proverb, but I have heard this Chinese one that may
be the source of the Japanese one.

"Give a man a fish and you have fed him for a day; but, teach a man how to
fish and you have fed him for life."



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E.           Ballard 
      says    Linux growth stagnating
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:42:40 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> >
> > Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> > > >
> > > > Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > > > They don't. And anyone can clone it. And if they sue the cloner,
> > > > > as long as the cloner didn't do anything illegal, the cloner will
> > > > > win. Big deal.
> > > >
> > > > Unless the cloner does not have enough money to fight back.  Then
the
> > one
> > > > who is in the right would lose and possibly be made destitute in the
> > > > process.
> > >
> > > Well, that is hardly TT's fault, is it?
> > > By the same token, anyone else could sue you for any reason and
> > > you would become just as destitute. If so, why single out TT?
> >
> > Because it is their intentions that are the subject of fear,
uncertantity,
> > and doubt in this discussion.  How many people would have the personal
> > finances to combat in court a company like Trolltech?  If Trolltech
brought
> > a suit that they coud not win against an individual of even a groups of
> > individuals and keep the issues tied up in court long enough to drain
their
> > opponents resources, it would be Trolltech's fault.  That is the one of
the
> > claws of FUD that makes people hesitent to produce a drop in replacement
for
> > Qt.
>
> So, you are blaming TT for something they have not done yet? That's not
> fair.

Are you claiming that Trolltech has not employed FUD?


> > Of couse this many soon all become a moot point with the release of
Qt/Unix
> > 2.2 under teh GPL.  Although this message does reinforces point of
> > centention.  A possible true reason for KDE to have used Qt instead of
> > somethine else, since Matthias Ettrich, founder of the KDE project is a
> > Trolltech employee.
>
> What is a possible reason?

Conflict of interest?


>
> > From http://www.trolltech.com/company/announce/gpl.html
>
> [snip announcement, Qt is now under the GPL, anyone can follow
>  the link for details]

Have you forgotten about the people who have usenet access but do not have
internet access?




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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:27:39 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Grega Bremec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ...and Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> used the keyboard:
>
> country. Besides, the mere assumption of everything non-American being
> plain obsoleted 20th century crap tells us all a great deal about your
> attitude, so I doubt that bothering myself any further would be in
> place.

Besides, we are all still in the 20th century, the 21st won't be here for a
few more months.



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 13:46:32 -0400

Charles Kooy wrote:
> 
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Charles Kooy wrote:
> > >
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Charles Kooy wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Charles Kooy wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > Left-wing social causes (global warming
> > > > > > > > propaganda)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Uhm, what precisely is 'left wing' about global warming? I think the
> > > > > > > majority of people would refer to it as an issue that concerns
> > everyone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "global warming" is a NON-event that the Left is trying to use to
> > > > > > weaken the economies of capitalist economies.
> > > > >   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > Why would the Left want to weaken the economies of non-capitalist
> > > > > countries?
> > > >
> > > > Spot the deliberate mis-quote.
> > > >
> > > > Ever notice who the non-capitalist countries which sign onto
> > > > idiot-pacts like the Kyoto Accords are never called on to
> > > > change THEIR production techniques (even though these same
> > > > countries put FAR more C02 into the air than western countries
> > > > for the same number of goods produced.)
> > > >
> > > The Kyoto accord was/is fatally flawed in many different ways. Many
> > > third world countries consider it unfair that they, who are just
> > > developing their industrial infrastructure, should be subject to the
> > > same emmission controls that rich countries have set, especially when
> > > those rich countries have spent the last 150 years chucking every kind
> > > of crap about. That pisses them off because their development may be
> > > stifled, as they may not be able to afford the cleaner equipment.
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, this does not mean that global warming does not exist
> >
> > Whether global warming exists or not (and the only data that supports
> > the conjecture is from weather stations that existed before
> > industrialization which are now buried in the middle of local
> > concrete-jungle hot-spots.
> >
> > Temperature data from RURAL weather stations shows ***NO CHANGE***
> > for the last 100 years.
> 
> Yet temperatures at the Poles is rising, and there is also a still
> growing hole in the Ozone layer (though the latter may, admittedly, be a
> natural fluctuation - difficult to judge with the very limited amount of

Natural fluctuation...In other words, a NON-ISSUE.

Do you know *WHY* the ozone-layer thins over the south pole during
the southern-hemisphere winter?

1) Ozone is produced by ultraviolet rays interacting with oxygen
        atoms in the upper atmosphere
2) Ozone breaks down over time
3) Any airmasss which doesn't get exposed to ultraviolet light
        experiences a decrease in ozone levels
4) Each polar region experiences a 90-day "night" during that
        hemisphere's winter.

QED.



> historical data available on that particular issue). There is a lot of
> ice at the poles. What do you think will happen when that ice starts
> melting. Nothing?

No such thing is happening.  A 2-mile hole in the cap was cleared by
ice-breakers as a PUBLICITY STUNT.  If this were a GENUINE process,
then the whole ice cap would have been broken up....not PACKED LIKE
A GLACIER as shown in the publicity-stunt photograph.

> 
> >
> > Global warming is all about providing an excuse for removing personal
> > freedoms, and implementing more socialism as an attempt to keep those
> > who are rich and powerful (Kennedys, Rockefellers, Rothchilds, etc.)
> 
> Aha - I see you feel it necessary to single out a Catholic family and
> two Jewish ones.

Fuck you, racist pig.  Religion has nothing to do with it...Plutocratic
behavior does.


> Do you have a problem with them, or were they just the
> first to come to mind?

They are the best known wealthy-assholes in these parts.  They are
all known for pandering to the poor by promoting legislation that
is harmful to anybody trying to improve their own personal economic
situation.

Socialism is merely a way for the "kings of the mountain" to
a) install underground refrigeration to freeze the mountain side, and
b) hose down the mountain side with water until it's covered with
        a sheet of ice...

All at the expense of those on the bottom

The quicker you and your friends figure this out, the sooner you
will be allowed to KEEP YOUR OWN MONEY.


> 
> > at the top by utterly destroying the means for anybody else to
> > rise withing the socio-economic structure.
> 
> Really? How do you explain the increase in the number of
> multi-millionaires over the last 40 or so years? They seem to have done
> pretty well... Not to mention the substantial growth in the size of the
> middle classes since the 1950's, and particularly since the early
> 1980's.                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  ^^^^^^^

That corresponds QUITE WELL with Reagan's initiatives to reduce
socialism


> 
> ck
> 
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > [Marxist bullshit deleted]
> > >
> > > Tell me, Aaron, do you call everything you don't agree with bullshit?
> > > That really is terrribly, well, Marxist of you.
> > >
> > > ck


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 13:47:29 -0400

"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> 
> Said Steve Hix in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Said [EMAIL PROTECTED] () in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >>
> >> >    US Welfare programs specifically discourage upward mobility.
> >>
> >> How?
> >
> >If you do anything to move up, the benefits are cut such that
> >you end up worse off by working some than by working not at all.
> 
> That would be a catch 22 situation, to be sure.  That's catch 22
> situations discouraging upward mobility, though, not welfare. 
> Very much fewer people are caught in this situation than we might
> think, I'd wager.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Spot the weasel works.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux.sucks,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Sun cannot use Java for their servers!!
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 13:48:09 -0400

Dave Livesay wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Not haunted....merely possessed by M$ demons.
> 
> We exorcised 'em.
> 
> > G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> >    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> 
> Um. I think her name was Jessica. Tammy was his wife's name at the time.

Yes...it'a all about hypocrisy....just like Unit_4



-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Sun cannot use Java for their servers!!
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 13:49:56 -0400

Stuart Fox wrote:
> 
> "lyttlec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Myers wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Why should deleting a root-level *FILE* fuck up the ENTIRE FILESYSTEM.
> > > >
> > > > This is indicative of some INCREDIBLY, SERIOUSLY bad fucking
> > > > programming.
> > >
> > > Ironically, this was a bug from back before MS bought FrontPage from
> VTI.
> > >
> > > But of course, those pesky facts wouldn't bother people like you, it's
> > > all, in the end, Microsoft's fault right? Plauge, war, famine... it's
> all
> > > Gates' fault, eh?
> > >
> > > -Chad
> > Has MS fixed the bug? Did they not know of the bug before or after they
> > bought FrontPage? What did they do for customers who got the buggy
> > version?
> 
> They have created a knowledge base article - Q183030 - available publicly on
> the web http://www.microsoft.com/technet.  For customers who bought the
> buggy version, they've provided a workaround (*don't* create Frontpage webs
> in the root of your drive - duh!), which is hardly an onerous requirement.
> It would appear the bug does not affect Frontpage 2000,  as the article only
> references Frontpage 98 (although I'm not willing to test this  :)  )

Translation: M% left the bug in place.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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