Linux-Advocacy Digest #726, Volume #30 Fri, 8 Dec 00 01:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Chad Myers")
Re: Linux is awful ("Quantum Leaper")
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Segmentation fault (core dumped) (kiwiunixman)
Re: Blurry Fonts: Is there a solution? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is awful ("Tom Wilson")
Re: Linux is awful ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is awful ("Quantum Leaper")
Re: Linux is awful ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows review ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Microsoft Light Bulb Part 2 ("Tom Wilson")
Re: Of course, there is a down side... ("Tom Wilson")
Re: Uptimes (kiwiunixman)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 00:05:11 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> "Bracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:ZMJX5.20393$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > If Windows is so great, why do WinTrolls feel the need to lie and
> > deceive?
> >
> > Bracy
>
> Because Linux lovers feel no shame in outright exclaiming from the rooftops
> that the end to Microsoft domination is here, in penguin form. Wake me when
> I can reliably update my Kernel, and OS level components without buying a
> new distro, recompiling something, or editing text files till the cows come
> home.
Hell of a lot cheaper than LoseDOS upgrades....AND you have your
choice of vendors (8+ last time I checked).
And not only that...but the bugs ACTUALLY GET FIXED without
introducing 2x as many new ones. (what a fucking concept)
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 04:50:15 GMT
"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Get rid of Demoncrook WACKOS and the party will be devoid of leadership.
> >
> > It's pretty fucking sad for the Left wing when the "sanest"
> > leader in their camp is that basket-case Ralph Nader.
>
>
> Get rid of the Repubican wackos, and the party will be devoid of
> members!
Well, I'd rather have someone telling me that the 2nd Amendment
WAS put in the Constitution for a REASON, than someone telling me
that my toilet has too much water in it and that I must give it
up for a smaller flush toilet.
-Chad
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From: "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 05:10:29 GMT
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ZzPX5.3224$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:f4KX5.9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > From what I've read here, some people seem to be running completely
> > different versions of Windows to anything I've ever come across. MY
> Win98SE
> > does exactly what Jerry says w/r to the registry. MY Win98SE install
prog
> > formats the Windows partition if it finds a FAT32 partition with no
> > filesystem actually written to it, regardless of what I want it to do.
>
> You're making no sense here. In order for a partition to be FAT32, it
must
> have a filesystem since FAT32 *IS* a filesystem. If there's no
filesystem,
> it's unformated and has no type.
>
I guess he is a average Linux user, ie. Troll.....
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 00:11:47 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > And only a true idiot would continue to actually use it after seeing
> > > what a lame piece of junk Linux is.'
> >
> > That must be why Toyota is using RedHat 6.2 as the IT base
> > for their dealership network.
>
> No, they're using Linux 6.2 as their base because they let their IS/IT staff
> lead the company around by the balls and listen to the rhetoric spouted
> almost robotically by you Linux zealots; "It's more stable, it's free, its
> this, it's that, it'll never crash, bla bla bla bla bla".
Your saying that Toyota, USA's CIO is an inexperienced idiot....
>
> Gotta love these brand spanking new college grads who don't know dick about
> how computing really is outside a computer lab.
Yeah... a man with 4 decades in the computer industry is definitely
someone lacking in experience outside the computer lab.
Here's a clue, Kyle...
Unix barely edges out Linux in reliability, but the vendor support
contracts tend to be pretty expensive.
Unix and Linux both run circles around Windows (any type) in
reliability, usability, replicability, and disaster recoverty.
And there is NO good Windows support available AT ANY PRICE.
Given all of that...Linux is not merely the obvious answer for
Toyota...any other "solution" would be unnecessarily expensive
(and if MS Lose*, utterly FOOLISH).
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 18:12:23 +1300
Have you tried compiling it as an ELF binary? a.out is a really old type
of binary.
kiwiunixman
news wrote:
> While working on a project ( which I thought to be quite small ) I have
> received this message:
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> Everything compiled okay. This happened as a result of a.out
> I was wondering if someone could point out to me what I should be looking
> for that might cause such a message.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Joarder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Blurry Fonts: Is there a solution?
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 00:14:02 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> It's really about fucking time.
Unix originated on quality equipment.
Windows is aimed at low-quality equipment...which is why, when
given high-quality hardware to run on....there is no performance
improvement.
>
> "Donal K. Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Swango wrote:
> > > I'll save you the time, it doesn't work.
> > >
> > > You still don't get the smooth anti-aliased looking fonts that you do
> > > under Windows.
> > >
> > > Linux is painful to look at, nevermind even worse to use.
> >
> > This (the lack of font anti-aliasing) is going to be fixed *soon*.
> > http://xfree86.org/~keithp/render/session.html
> >
> > Donal.
> > --
> > Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > -- I have to warn you up front that I'm pretty sure you're full of crap,
> but
> > it might still be interesting to see your argument.
> > -- Bill Newman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 05:13:58 GMT
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:nyPX5.3223$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:njJX5.2299$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > Just as I thought. You don't know what it means.
> > >
> > > System Resources is an average of the three 64K system heaps in 16 bit
> > > Windows. These are used for GDI handles, Menu handles, global 16 bit
> > memory
> > > handles, etc.. They have nothing to do with the first 640k.
> > >
> > > Further, being low on resources does not slow your system down. The
> only
> > > negative aspect that these resources are capable of producings is if
you
> > run
> > > out of them completely, in which case windows will fail to open and a
> few
> > > other peculiarities.
> >
> > Some software, even MS's own software, fails to release GDI handles and
> that
> > fragments the crap out of your memory pool. Legacy Win16 apps are
> > particularly bad about it. It indeed can slow things down over time.
Kept
> up
> > long enough, one of those peculiarites is a completely schizo box that
can
> > and will crash with a boom. Even NT boxes. One of my projects did that
> very
> > thing until I tracked down the offending code.The problem behavior went
> away
> > after I corrected it.
>
> The 3 system heaps in 9x are kept in non-pageable memory. Their maximum
> size is 64K. What you're suggesting is just not possible. If the heaps
> were huge and pageable, then larger allocations and management would be an
> issue, but 64K, no matter how fragmented is virtualy instantaneous.
That's what I've always been told. It doesn't explain away the situation
described above, though. And, yes, the only memory leaks in my code were
dropped GDI handles. Win9x does a better job than Win16, for certain, but it
isn't perfect. Nowhere close.
>
> NT generally doesn't have the problem with running out of resources (It's
> possible, but HIGHLY unlikely. You would need to be creating new
resources
> at a tremendous rate to run out of the 2GB system heaps.)
The time it took the buggy project to spiral down, under NT, was several
weeks. The project IS highly graphical, with dynamic backgrounds, an
membership image library, proportional fonts and menus, etc.... (People for
some reason just love flash). A lot of resources but not enough to justify
what happened.
>
> > Another thing I found is that the less you rely on MFC, the better your
> > application's performance and uptime.
>
> That's simply not true. There are gotcha's to using MFC that, if you're
> aware of them, don't cause any problems. For instance, if a resource
(such
> as a bitmap or pen) is selected into a DC when the MFC wrapper goes out of
> scope, it won't delete the resource and you'll have a leak. MFC does have
a
> few leaks, but they are one-time leaks and fairly small, thus they do not
> grow and are taken care of by the OS when it exits.
I wish it weren't true. It would have made things so much easier. The second
I started encapsulating Win32 myself, memory leaks mysteriously vanished.
There is something WRONG with those classes. My experience isn't a unique
one, either.
>
> If you use a tool like Purify (which is available for Unix as well) you
can
> easily prevent your apps from having resource problems.
Well thought out code is a better answer to the problem.
--
Tom Wilson
Registered Linux User #194021
http://counter.li.org
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 00:15:55 -0500
Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:20:23 +0200, Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >> Well, actually, it would be a lot more than $300 since none of my home
> >> computers meet the minimum spec for W2K, and some of them aren't even
> >> that old. About 30% of the ones at the office don't either, which
> >> might explain management's lack of enthusiasm for W2K.
> >
> >I would say that anything below P133Mhz+32MB is indeed old.
>
> Why should a computer less than five years old be ready for the trash
> heap?
Because if you're stuck with Windows...that's how life goes.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 05:19:53 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Uncle Fester wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How about setting your monitor refresh rate?
> > >
> > > Not even an option under MS LoseDOS, so why are you bringing this up?
> >
> > Sorry. Gotta call you on this one. You sure can.
>
> ONLY if the video card manufacturer AND the monitor manufacturer
> provide the proper drivers.
>
> That functionality is NOT built-in on windows. [So, what else is new]
>
Incorrect, you only need the correct Video card drivers, the monitor
'driver' isn't a real driver but a list of refresh rates. You can still
change the refresh rates on the monitor but you may end up with an
unviewable mess. I know I have a problem with 75 Hz but it would do 72Hz
and 85Hz without a problem.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 00:20:08 -0500
Steve Martin wrote:
>
> "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote:
>
> > >> >Actually most of these posts are coming from experience, the vast majority of
> > >> >Linux people have Windows experience.
> > >>
> > >> In that case, the people who keep posting that Windows won't run for
> > >> more than a few days at a time are lying, instead of ignorant.
>
> OK, here's some hard evidence:
>
> We have a Linux system in our control room that is used as a repository
> for TV commercials. The commercials are fed over satellite via a DirecPC
> dish/card into the Linux box, where they are stored on SCSI hard disk
> and
> later retrieved at full broadcast quality for dubbing to videotape. This
> box has been running for well over a year now, with no reboots at all.
> In fact, our videotape staff don't even know *how* to reboot it.
>
> Contrariwise, we have a still image storing system based on an NT 4.0 WS
> PC that gets flakey almost on a daily basis. We probably have to reboot
> it
> about once a week.
>
> The load on the Linux box is incredibly higher than that on the
> stillstore
> (as it's receiving and storing an MPEG data stream almost constantly),
> but
> it's shown magnitudes more stability than anything we have in the house
> based on a Microsoft OS.
Blame Canada.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 00:25:01 -0500
Swangoremovemee wrote:
>
> On Fri, 08 Dec 2000 02:35:01 GMT, "Les Mikesell"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >You said it didn't support USB. If you loaded a version that does,
> >then why did you lie about it?
>
> You really DO HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO READ Les.
>
> This is the second time.
>
> I never said it didn't SUPPORT USB, I said NONE OF MY DEVICES WORKED.
Why the fuck did you purchase devices that weren't supported by Linux?
You know....even if you never intend to run Linux, it's in your
long-term best interest (as a consumer) to purchase only those
devices which ARE supported under multiple OS's.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 00:27:22 -0500
Swangoremovemee wrote:
>
> On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 14:08:23 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >That must be why Toyota is using RedHat 6.2 as the IT base
> >for their dealership network.
> >
>
> Have you taken a look at Toyota's stock price lately?
Was there a DIRECT cause-and-effect relationship between
a price drop and the RedHat server announcement
a) yes
B) NO
(Hint: The entire auto industry has been taking a hit lately.
We've been in a recession since last June, after about the
3rd month of the Clinton-inspired 50% increase in the price
of crude oil due to Clinton's suggestion to OPEC that they
cut back production by 5%)
>
> Swango
> "It Don't Mean a Thang if it Ain't Got That Swang"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Windows review
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 05:30:09 GMT
"Curtis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Davey) posted:
>
> | That is not a reason not to learn it though. Becoming more familiar with
the
> | workings of your computer is always worthwhile. File operations are
often
> | easier on the command line, especially in your example of an elderly
person.
> | Holding down Ctrl and selecting multiple files and moving them to
another
> | directory can often be quite fiddly, I'm 26 yet still find myself having
to
> | select the files all over again as I made a slip up with the mouse. I
dread
> | to think what trouble Granpappy would have. Far easier to type what you
want
> | to do at the command line.
> |
> | mv *.txt ../newdir
>
> No I need to move four out of 25 text files within the same directory.
> Some of them have 30-40 character names, so I can't remember their exact
> names. Using a GUI file manager is at least as effective.
What do you do when you are alternating back and forth between two or
more long directory paths in a GUI that only remembers one? A cli with
command recall and edit is faster for me in this common situation.
Les Mikesell
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Light Bulb Part 2
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 05:31:08 GMT
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9uPX5.6696$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [snips]
>
> "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:YP9X5.677$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > A buddy of mine is doing some Windows programming today.
> >
> > Hack/Crash/Reboot
> > Hack/Crash/Reboot
> >
> > I emailed your little diatribe to him and he told me to tell you to fuck
> > off.
> >
> >
> > I think he liked it ;)
>
> Funny; I do Windows development regularly, and I don't have that problem.
I don't have near the problems he does as I run NT as a development
platform. He's sticking with Win98. And don't tell me you haven't had
VStudio go up in flames on you before...
--
Tom Wilson
Registered Linux User #194021
http://counter.li.org
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Of course, there is a down side...
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 05:36:46 GMT
"JM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:43:42 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)) wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 00:01:35 GMT, JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>Anyone remember DOS edit? Now, was that a pile of piss or what that a
> >>pile of piss?
>
> >Well, yes, it was bad. But it could edit bigger files than Notepad.
>
> And it doesn't put .txt on the end of every new file.
That was annoying!
I wrote a binary patch for that ages ago and sent it to the boards.
--
Tom Wilson
Registered Linux User #194021
http://counter.li.org
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From: kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 05:41:53 GMT
Even if there was a "uptime keeper" for Linux/Unix and Windows, it still
would not give an accurate representation of the OS as much of the OS
stability is not only reliant on the fact that the code is as bug free
as possible, but also the quality of the hardware used. For example,
Windows running on a $100 el-chepo machine will tend to give worse
results than Windows on a machine with quality components, and because
of this, accurate data is very hard to collate, even under the most
strictist test conditions.
kiwiunixman
Adam Ruth wrote:
> Where can I find some hard numbers about the best and mena uptimes of NT and
> Linux? I have my own experience, which I'm sure varies from others. I have
> Netcraft numbers which don't show NT 4 and W2K hasn't been around long
> enough fro some good numbers.
>
> I keep seeing this debate and they always end up with someone saying, "My
> machine has been up for x months!". Which someone promptly replies,
> "B.S.!". So has there been any research in this area?
>
> Adam Ruth
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