Linux-Advocacy Digest #633, Volume #31 Sun, 21 Jan 01 11:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Windows curses fast computers (Edward Rosten)
Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin (Peter Hayes)
Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin (Peter Hayes)
Re: Windows curses fast computers (Edward Rosten)
Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin (Peter Hayes)
Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant ("Bill Shine")
Re: Poor Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What really burns the Winvocates here... ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) (The Ghost In The Machine)
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows curses fast computers
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:29:48 +0000
> > Then 1 out of 3 times that
> > blasted thing manages to find a new Ethernet card and installs it a second
> > time, rendering Network inoperable. You have to remove those bogus entries
> > AND install that damn card again.
>
> This sounds like a flaky PnP or ACPI bios to me. Windows uses the BIOS to
> detect the hardware. If the BIOS is telling windows there's a new card
> there, it'll try and detect it.
Have you ever admitted that anything was Windows' fault? A while back
when the trolls were whining about Linux being unable to always detect >
64M of ram due to bad BIOS, you said it was the fault of Linux because
Win could do it properly. Now we have windows screwing up because of bad
BIOS (but not Linux) but this time its NOT the OS's fault, because the
os is Windows.
> > Well, this has no direct connection with
> > shutdown, but would not occur if MicroShit had done their job a little
> > better. But then again, why do they have to do that FUCKING hardware
> > detection every power on??
>
> Because you might have added new hardware? That's kind of the point.
No one I know adds new hardware every time they switch the computer on.
-Ed
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Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:30:01 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:24:02 +0200, "Ayende Rahien" <Please@don't.spam>
wrote:
>
> "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Said SomeoneElse in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:47:06
> > >On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 04:29:04 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > [...]
> > >>Thanks, Gary. I still hope to avoid having to use gcc or any other
> > >>compiler, but I appreciate the conversation.
> > >You may not want to write any programs, but...
> > >
> > >sometimes the cutting edge stuff only comes in source and you have to
> > >build it yourself. Typically that is very simple:
> > >./configure
> > >make
> > >make install.
> > >
> > >But you will need gcc.
> >
> > Thanks, 'someoneelse'. I still hope to avoid having to use gcc or any
> > other compiler, but I appreciate the chance to repeat myself. ;-)
>
> The simplest workaround is to avoid using gcc, and using kgcc instead.
> Reason is that kgcc is the previous version of gcc, which will work
> correctly, unlike the gcc that you'll have with RH.
Wasn't kgcc put in for compiling kernels?
Jusr remove the current link to gcc and replace it with a link to kgcc and
all will be as it should have been in the first place.
Peter
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:34:43 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:18:45 GMT, J J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Ayende Rahien <Please@don't.spam> wrote:
> > Be sure to have a LILO boot disk around, you'll need it to reinstall LILO
> > (or your boot manager of choice) on the MBR after you install Windows.
>
> Unlike Linux, windows simply wipes out the boot record for whatever
> OSes might be installed - a rather typical brain dead microsoft
> move - so that particular bit of advice is not inaccurate.
It's illegal in many countries to modify computer software without the
owner's consent, so surely it's about time Microsoft were prosecuted over
this particularly arrogant piece of programming.
Peter
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows curses fast computers
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:39:48 +0000
> > Do any high reliability drives have some kind of on board power backup
> > so they can finish writing if the power execpectedly dies? A small
> > lithium battery would provide enough power for a few seconds.
> >
> > I really wouldn't expect this in standard PC IDE drives, though.
> >
>
> See my other post later in this thread. I discuss capacitors there, since
> that's what Erik had mentioned.
Yes, I read it. I have seef 1.5F capacitors avaliable. They're not
generally as big as a collection of 100,000uF ones because they
sacrifice quality for size. They're still only 5v, though (so a
switching regulator is still needed).
> A small lithium battery might provide enough power for a few seconds, but
I was refering to Lithium ion rechargable batteries, since they don't
suffer the memory effect like NiCad batteries, they should last for much
longer.
> you'd have to have the battery there and a switching regulator to convert it
> to the correct voltages for the drive. Since the (relatively) inexpensive
A stack of cells can provide the right voltage without switching. If you
want more consistent power, then go for a higher voltage and use a
nonswitching regulator (which are inexpensive and can handle high powers
fr short periods without the need for a heatsink).
> lithium batteries aren't rechargable, it wouldn't last for too many power
I meant the expansive ones.
> cycles before needing replacement. Adding a more expensive rechargeable
> battery might do the job, but at extra (needless) cost. It's needless
> because most high end drives are SCSI, and there is a protocol for flushing
> the cache on SCSI drives, so all this extra crud isn't necessary.
I was refering to sudden outages, but a decent UPS should avoid the need
for this.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: "The Linux Desktop", by T. Max Devlin
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:43:53 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 03:29:27 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <94cq2d$ils$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Ayende Rahien" <Please@don't.spam> wrote:
> >
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8oic49.pkk.ln@gd2zzx...
> >> In article <94c6mh$6h2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> "Ayende Rahien" <Please@don't.spam> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > This is *very* accurate.
> >> > If he will install windows, he will need a LILO boot disk, because RH
> >> > wouldn't boot because Windows will overwrite the MBR.
> >> > He will have to reinstall LILO in the MBR if he wish to use Linux.
> >>
> >> Your reply is inaccurate and confusing. A boot disk with his linux
> >> kernel is all that is required although a disk with lilo will boot
> >> faster. He will not have to reinstall lilo if he has a boot disk
> >> although it makes sense to do so. Please try and be accurate and not
> >> make a big issue out of such a trivial matter.
> >
> > It's not a trivial matter to most people.
> > I meant that he will have to reinstall LILO in the MBR, not reinstall LILO
> > as a whole.
>
> Grief, what is the difference between installing LILO in the MBR and reinstalling
> LILO as a whole? You obviously don't know LILO at all but use it as a buzz word.
All he needs to do is to boot from his Linux floppy, edit /etc/lilo.conf to
add Windows and run /sbin/lilo.
This will re-install lilo with a Windows option.
A lot less easy to do is to generate a Windows partition in the first
place. Adding another disk is the safest option.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:09:32 GMT
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 04:33:23 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Using the ever-ready WebFerret (another investment I'll miss) a boolean
>expression "konqueror and certificate" took no less than thirty seconds
>(a great bit of time, indicating no huge flood of pages referencing
>this) brought up this as the third real hit:
>
>#16758: Konqueror doesn't warn sufficiently strong when it can't verify
>an SSL server certificate
> Package: kio-http; Severity: critical; Reported by: "Ivan E Moore
>II" <rkrusty at tdyc com>; merged with
> #11406; 42 days old.
>
>Its from http://buglist.kde.org/db/ix/full.html
>
>"Doesn't warn sufficiently strong?" That couldn't possibly be the one
>you were talking about, could it? Still, its listed as 'critical'.
You should have tried Google and then you would see all the hits.
Snip............................
You basically took a lot of lines to say that you will be settling for
what Linux has in the way of applications you use under Windows until
it matures to that level.
The only thing is you have absolutely no idea how much you will be
settling until you are stuck using them.
Your new system will give you that opportunity.
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:37:02 GMT
On 21 Jan 2001 02:46:48 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cliff Wagner)
wrote:
>
>I haven't come across any instances where this really
>was an issue. Of course it would be nice if windows
>had built in focus-follows-mouse.
>As for giving up my middle mouse button? Gods, I
>hate that Microsoft utterly ignores the fact that
>most mice have 3 (or 4) buttons. I love that I
>can copy a URL and hover over a netscape window, press
>the middle mouse button, and it goes there.
Windows works fine with every button on my 4 button Logitech scroll
mouse and I can program the buttons to do anything I want.
I also prefer consistent cut and paste, meaning I can choose either
menues or buttons or a combination of both and it works consistently
between all applications. This is not true under Linux, although the
middle button works consistently. A combination of menu and middle
button does not. Especially with Netscape.
As for the URL, I can double click on one in any application and away
IE goes right to the site.
Different strokes for different folks.
>I just tested it, and it stays in /usr/mp3 every time
>for me.
xmms always went back to /home for me, maybe I missed a setting?
>Oh? So it's a pointless disclaimer on e-mailanywhere.com
>about downloading attachments with IE? Or that when I
>tried to get the registration key for windvd, I had to
>click "open from current location" twice before I finally
>got the binary to download? I can forward you over
>the email from support there, since they seem to be
>aware of the problem. But I guess it's my fault, and
>these sites have the disclaimer up, just for me. I feel
>special now.
I don't seem to have thins problem, but I went to that site and for
one thing it has to be one of the slowest loading sites on the net at
least on Sun 1/21 at 10:15am EST.
Going to the FAQ section and then to Misc. also generated a repeatable
error in IE 5 causing it to shut down. Netscape 6.0 just hung when I
selected the same url.
Maybe they were doing maintenance or something, but I wouldn't trust
mail to that site.
>that would take all of 2.5 minutes to download for me, not
>even enough time for it to brew up.
Go for coffee waiting for it to load, not download.
The download is 5 meg larger than the Windows version, which is a
version ahead in features, some nice features.
>>I have a Playstation II.
>
>I said blizzard.
>a) they don't have PS2 versions
>b) you can't be suggesting playing a RTS game on a console.
I don't really play games too much.
Duke Nuke'm and Flight Simulator are about it.
>And linux is catching up. I mentioned 2 things
>that are preventing me from dropping my win2k/98/me
>installations. (since I'm a developer I need to keep
>a copy of 2kAS around).
Linux is catching up but desktop users are still ignoring it.
>In your opinion. Personally, I like KDE2 and Gnome+e...
>One of my ex-gfs used to have no problems with kde1 when
>she stayed over here. I had to spend 20 minutes explaining
>which applications she would probably use, and she pretty
>much figured everything out from there.
You installed it for her and explained it to her.
Give her the CD and ask her to do it herself.
>There's always evolution, or gnome-pim, or staroffice.
>And Lotus Organizer isn't preloaded as frequently anymore,
>with MS pressuring for outlook to be the default PIM app.
They are all awful compared to Lotus, or even Outlook which I despise.
>Oh please. Maybe for people who have negative intelligence.
>I haven't seemed to have had any problems sitting down
>a friend at my PC, showing them that you click on the
>little K to get to applications, and a quick little
>bit on where to save to and printing and left them go
>about their stuff. It's not like they need to learn vi.
>"here's a word processor. Here's a spreadsheet. Here's
>netscape. Here's an e-mail program. Here's an MP3 player.
>I keep all my mp3s in /usr/mp3."
Until they decide they want to add an application, or they try to
transfer files on a floppy to another co-worker or friend, or their
kid brings home a great educational program from school, or you can't
use any of the software titles in the local library (at least where I
live).
Nope, using Linux is like being the only round peg in a world that
only has square holes.
>Yups, reading through freshmeat, that's all I ever see on there.
>All text editors, all the time. Never another program. Oops,
>I guess I should tell those guys developing evolution that they
>went way past developing a word processor, so they better stop.
All I ever see are libraries and snippets of code and utilities to use
snippets of code.
Let's take a look at tokay's offerings on the title page:
Code Medic 1.1.0 beta 1
by John Lindal on January 21st 2001, 09:52 EST
Code Medic provides access to the power of gdb with an intuitive front
end. It currently supports opening multiple source windows at once,
setting/clearing breakpoints while the program is running, watching
variables change in the variable tree as you step through code (even
with nested structs), text searching through source, and integration
with Code Crusader to provide a rapid, efficient develop-debug cycle.
================================================================================
Code Crusader 3.0.0 beta 11
by John Lindal on January 21st 2001, 09:48 EST
Code Crusader is a complete code development environment, inspired by
MetroWerks CodeWarrior. It can run on any UNIX machine that uses the X
Window System.
================================================================================
gmessage+ 0.17
by Yves Mettier on January 21st 2001, 09:35 EST
gmessage+ is an enhanced clone of xmessage for GNOME with networking
abilities.
Changes: The --geometry option now works
Urgency: low
===============================================================================
BASHISH DR7.1
by arne on January 21st 2001, 09:35 EST
Bashish is a theme-engine for bash and other shells (zsh, tcsh, rc,
akanga, ksh and other POSIX-style shells) that will customize nearly
all aspects of the terminal: title, colors, prompt, font, background,
etc. With its scalable design, Bashish aims to create a developer- and
user-friendly theme engine.
================================================================================
vmailadmin 0.7.4
by Davi de Castro Reis on January 21st 2001, 09:31 EST
Vmailadmin is a Web application that allow your client to administer
the POP accounts in his domain, easily and securely, without the need
to contact ISP staff. Features include creation and removal of POP
accounts and redirects, encryption of login and password, total
================================================================================
notary 0.0.4
by Tim Waugh on January 21st 2001, 09:28 EST
notary provides an automatic digital timestamping and notary service.
Send a notary server a detached signature from a document, and you get
back the notary's detached counter-signature.
===============================================================================
mod_auth_smb 0.3
by drbrain on January 21st 2001, 09:28 EST
mod_auth_smb is a module for the Apache HTTP server. It allows users
to authenticate against SMB servers (like Windows NT and Samba).
===============================================================================
Parallel URL fetcher 0.91beta3
by Ossi on January 21st 2001, 09:27 EST
puf is a tool that can be used to download single files or mirror
entire servers. It is similar to GNU wget (and has a partly-compatible
command line), but has the ability to do many downloads in parallel.
This is very useful if you have a high-bandwidth Internet connection.
Snip a long list of geek stuff, most of which even defies
description......
================================================================================
I can see Joe straining at the bit to get this stuff on his desktop.
Flatfish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:42:34 GMT
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 02:59:43 GMT, "Chad Myers"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Perhaps he has vision impairments. There are several older
>developers at work who use that resolution on 21" monitors.
>They are quite productive. I guess not everyone is as
>supreme in make as you.
>
Actually it's because 1024x768 is a good comprimise resolution when
doing digital audio and scoring (looking at the sheet music) at the
same time. That is why I use it.
Flatfish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:44:22 GMT
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 03:24:00 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>And EXACTLY the reason why Linux is being ignored on the desktop of
>>home users.
>
>We've been over that. Your naive and ingenuous assumption is plainly
>wrong. If this were the case, after all, Microsoft wouldn't have to
>lose millions of dollars providing sufficient 'discounts' to ensure that
>OEMs are still locked in to Windows.
They don't have to. People use it because it works for them.
Linux can't even be given away, and that is even more so when it is
actually tried for the first time by a home user.
>>For goodness sakes you guys actually like using the command line to
>>play CD's.
>
>Personally, I prefer using a CD player. But a command line is a much
>handier way of controlling a CD player, of course. Just tell the
>computer what to do and it does it; no hunting around,
>clicky-clicky-clicky. Yuck.
You just proved my point.
You are so out of touch with reality of the home market it is scary.
Flatfish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:46:53 GMT
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 04:24:09 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Try upping the brightness of your monitor, or buying one with a
>dot pitch smaller than .28.
It's a Sony....
>> If you double the size of it, the text looks jagged and nasty.
>
>Then increase your monitor resolution.
Doesn't matter. Looks crappy on my laptop as well and on my sons
system which has an NEC monitor.
>
>Not true at all for xmms. Are you using some ancient version?
I dunno? Whatever came with Mandrake 7.2
>Winamp and XMMS are basically the same product. XMMS used to be called
>X11Amp.
I know.
Flatfish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:49:21 GMT
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 03:15:22 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>Does anybody have any idea what the fuck he's trying to say?
>
>More importantly, does anybody care? (Other than EF or Claire?)
He seems to back up his claims with facts and references and so do I,
but you Penguinista's don't know how to read, or you selectively read.
It's amazing how many times the same information has to be repeated to
you guys before you finally understand.
Amazing.
Flatfish
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:55:21 GMT
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 03:19:30 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I wonder how long it will take before you catch on, quite repeating
>yourself, or go away?
I'm waiting for you to get your new Linux system and start
experiencing the Linux nightmare like the rest of us.
(I believe it is you that just ordered the machine?)
I'm waiting for you to try and use a news reader other than Agent and
see what happens.
I'm waiting for you to try running Agent under Whino and see what
happens.
I'm waiting for you to be forced to do without all of those Windows
applications you said you will miss (in another post).
It's going to be a lot of fun around here in the next couple of weeks,
but of course I don't expect you to actually admit that Linux sux and
that you reformatted your drive to Windows, but I have a strong
feeling that is what will happen.
No, I'm not going anywhere T-Rex, this place is just tooooooo much
fun......
Flatfish
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:58:07 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> He seems to back up his claims with facts and references and so do I,
Au contraire, mon frere.
> but you Penguinista's don't know how to read,
A common problem with many computer literate types, Linux or not,
I'm afraid. However, they do read reference manuals, help files,
and tech specs pretty well, though.
> or you selectively read.
I've not seen that you and chad are any different. Worse, actually.
> It's amazing how many times the same information has to be repeated to
> you guys before you finally understand.
Define "you guys", girl!
> Amazing.
You're somewhat dense and obtuse yourself. I've already flipped the
bozo bit a couple of times already on some of your cronies.
Chris
--
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From: "Bill Shine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:58:38 GMT
"Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:L68a6.122474$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > I think you mean incompetent system architect for choosing NT.
> >
> >
> > Incompetent NT LoseDOS admin and incompetetant system architects who
> > choose LoseDOS products....go hand in hand.
>
> Of course, then there are idiots like you who would choose a Linux
> workstation platform as their choice when you knew what would suffer.
>
> UNIX on the desktop isn't pretty. If it were, Microsoft wouldn't be in
> business.
>
>
I use a linux desktop at home, for a single reason -- Linux gives me the
applications that I want, and
windows doesn't. I use programming languages
(C++,Lisp,Prolog,Java,Perl,Python), text editors (Nedit,vi,emacs), and
databases (mysql,interbase) a lot. I find that between KDE 2.0 , Gnome, and
Star Office, I have all the "home office Apps" I could want, and I see no
reason to spend money on software to replace what I can get for free.
Anyone saying that UNIX on a desktop isn't pretty hasn't run Gnome or KDE
2.0. They provide you with a desktop that is superior to the windows
desktop. Try it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Poor Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:59:05 GMT
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 03:20:40 GMT, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The sblive satisfies these criteria, and I'm happy.
>
>Could you explain what I'm supposed to be
>unhappy about
>Thanks,
If your happy then fine. You could have bought a $15.00 soundcard and
saved yourself a bundle and been just as happy.
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What really burns the Winvocates here...
Date: 21 Jan 2001 16:01:24 GMT
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Joseph T. Adams wrote:
:> The Wintrolls are trying to come up with ways to convince key people -
:> primarily developers - to avoid switching to Linux just yet. Doing so
:> if successful would slow the demise of Winblows and give Mafia$oft
:> more time to perfect its plans to expand the monopoly via .NET.
: Not me. I'm waiting for Kylix to appear. I have an application I want to
: port to Linux and it's written in Delphi. When Kylix appears, I'll convert
: to that.
:> The problem is, even the smartest Wintrolls are nowhere near as
:> informed or as intelligent as the average software developer.
: Gee thanks.
You aren't one of the people I was referring to.
Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:09:54 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chad Myers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Sun, 21 Jan 2001 04:04:07 GMT
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>"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chad Myers
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote
>> on Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:52:55 GMT
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>> >Note: these are not
>> >feature-length movies, these are video lectures. When digitizing
>> >them to the computer (through firewire) stopping every 15 minutes
>> >to account for Linux's poor design is not an option.
>>
>> Then don't use Linux. I'd say that's a no-brainer. :-)
>
>Thank you, that's what I've been saying. =)
Exactly. However, bear also in mind that there are other applications
where Linux runs very well and Windows folds up and dies (or at
least limps along), and that this particular 32-bit bug is
application-caused, since ext2fs and glibc have apparently
already been fixed.
I don't advocate Linux for everybody, much as I'd like to.
However, I certainly can't say Windows is for everybody, either;
reliability figures from various sources bear this out. (Granted,
the 49.7 day count bug isn't helping the measurements, either,
and the stories are slightly inconsistent; I'm sure there's an
unused NT box still running 3.51 out there, basically doing nothing,
and not having been rebooted in 5 years. However, I'm not sure how
meaningful a datapoint that is. :-) I know there are Linux boxes
out there that have been up for more than a year -- mine are not
among them for various reasons, unfortunately.)
>
>-Chad
>
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