Linux-Advocacy Digest #781, Volume #31 Sun, 28 Jan 01 06:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF xxxx ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: GODDAMNED STINKING PIECE OF SHIT KULKIS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: M$ websites down again - Problem solved -> use Linux! (J Sloan)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Whistler, the greatest jump forward in the evolution of computing... ("Bobby D.
Bryant")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Quantum Leaper")
Re: Run for the hills! ("kiwiunixman")
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe ("kiwiunixman")
Re: Gates Vaccine ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Check out "Author predicts the end of Microsoft" Video Clip at news.com ("Adam
Warner")
Sound a networks (Pete Goodwin)
Re: All this Whistler stuff. (Pete Goodwin)
Re: All this Whistler stuff. (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Sound a networks (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Ramen worm/virus cracks NASA and others ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Sound a networks (Mig)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:16:40 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>>> My first unfortunate experience of reading Tholen's pollution dates
>>> back to 1989.
>> Liar. My first reading of USENET postdates 1989.
> 1991 at the latest...
Liar. My first reading of USENET postdates 1991.
> I distinctly remember coming across your endless stream of
> asinine bullshit BEFORE the Gulf War.
So much for your memory.
> Muana Loa is calling you, Tholen.
Illogical, Kulkis.
> The lava is so waaaaarm and cozy.
Be my guest, Kulkis.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:19:12 GMT
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>>> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>>>>> [nothing intelligent]
>>>> THOLEN!
>>>> JUST GO JUMP IN THE GODDAMNED VOLCANO, YOU MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT!
>>> tholen is definitely mentally sick.
>>>
>>> He's been doing this since the early 90's.
>>> Perhaps earlier than that.
>> My first unfortunate experience of reading Tholen's pollution dates
>> back to 1989.
> This is incredible!
Yes, it is incredible that Kulkis would resort to lying.
> This man has been mentally disturbed and on the internet pumping out
> this kind of crap for 12 years or more????
Not only are you erroneously presupposing that I am mentally disturbed,
you're also erroneously presupposing that Kulkis is telling the truth.
> Why don't the authorities get him into a state hospital
> where he can be treated?
Why don't you call their attention to the alleged problem, Charlie?
Afraid doing so will say more about you than about me?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:21:39 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
> Charlie Ebert wrote:
>> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>>> Charlie Ebert wrote:
>>>> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>>>>>> [nothing intelligent]
>>>>> THOLEN!
>>>>> JUST GO JUMP IN THE GODDAMNED VOLCANO, YOU MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT!
>>>> tholen is definitely mentally sick.
>>>>
>>>> He's been doing this since the early 90's.
>>>> Perhaps earlier than that.
>>> My first unfortunate experience of reading Tholen's pollution dates back
>>> to 1989.
>> This is incredible! This man has been mentally disturbed
>> and on the internet pumping out this kind of crap for
>> 12 years or more????
>>
>> Why don't the authorities get him into a state hospital
>> where he can be treated?
> Why do you think I encourage the worhtless piece of shit to develop
> and up-close and personal relationship with a local source of
> free-flowing lava?
Because you have no logical counterargument to offer. Invective is
the usual fallback tactic for people like you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:34:27 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>>> THOLEN!
>> KULKIS!
>>> 1) Get off your retarded ass...
>> You're erroneously presupposing that I have a "retarded ass" to get
>> off of, Kulkis.
> You're sitting on it, retard.
Still making the same erroneous presupposition, even after I called
your attention to it.
> Thank you for demonstrating that, in fact, you ARE A retarded piece of
> shit.
How ironic, coming from the person who is still making the same
erroneous presupposition, even after having had his attention
called to it.
>>> 2) Take your maggot-infested brain to the rim of Muana Loa
>> You're erroneously presupposing that I have a "maggot-infested brain",
>> Kulkis.
> Hey, Tholen...here's a fucking clue...when someone offers you an
> excuse for your stupidity...TAKE IT.
Yet another erroneous presupposition involving my alleged stupidity.
> Since you deny having a maggot-infested brain, then I can only conclude
> that you're stupidity is an inborn trait, rather than the result of
> an unfortunate insect infestation.
Still making the same erroneous presupposition.
>>> 3) JUMP IN THE GODDAMNED VOLCANO, ASSHOLE.
>> Practice what you preach, Kulkis.
> You're stupid shitsack
> I'm not
I'm not the one relying on foul language.
> You are an utterly worthless piece of shit
> I'm not
I'm not the one relying on invective.
> You can't hack it in the private sector,
Prove it, if you think you can, Kulkis.
> so you hide in academia.
Who is allegedly hiding, Kulkis?
> I don't.
You just change jobs every couple of years. I can understand why.
> Your writings are not only tiresome, but utterly annoying to all who
> have the misfortune to come across them
Prove it, if you think you can, Kulkis.
> Mine aren't.
On what basis do you make that claim? I've seen plenty of people
complain about your tiresome sig.
> Hope that helps.
It helps me identify more of your lies, Kulkis.
>>> 4) RIGHT NOW! OXYGEN THIEF!
>> After you.
> What's wrong...too stupid to figure it how to accomplish the simple
> task without using the "Monkey See--Monkey Do" method.???
Not at all; I have something else in mind.
> No wonder you're scared shitless of leaving academia.
Prove it, if you think you can, Kulkis.
> Goddamned miseserable shit for brains.
Typical invective, as expected from someone who lacks a logical
argument.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:35:45 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
> mlw wrote:
>> I am having a bit of difficulty relating this thread to anything having to do
>> with Linux advocacy.
> Regard it as a pollution control technique.
Impossible, considering how much pollution you're depositing.
> I'm hoping to convince the walking toxic waste dump to remove himself
> from the human gene pool.
Talking to yourself, Kulkis?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF xxxx
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:36:49 GMT
Mike writes:
> Am I the only one who wishes we could put Kulkis and Ebert together?
Roger or Charlie?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GODDAMNED STINKING PIECE OF SHIT KULKIS
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:40:01 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>>> 12 years of YOUR GODDAMNED POLLUTION ON USENET.
>> Liar.
> Are you contesting 12 years, or the assessment that you
> contribute nothing to USENET other than an ENDLESS STREAM OF
> the most GODAWFUL POLLUTION IN EVERY NEWSGROUP YOU INFEST.
Both.
>>> JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND JUMP IN THE GODDAMNED VOLCANO, YOU MISERABLE
>>> SHIT SACK.
>> Practice what preach, Kulkis.
> THIS IS ABOUT *YOU*, THOLEN
My response is about you, Kulkis.
>>> YOU ARE A GODDAMNED WASTE OF SKIN.
>> How ironic.
> YOU'RE AND OXYGEN THIEF, TOO.
Classic ineffective invective. Not unexpected from someone who
lacks a logical argument.
>>> Tholen, ***YOU***, personally, are 100% crap.
>> How ironic.
>>> Tholen admits that he's so goddamned stupid that he can't figure
>>> it out himself.
>> Liar.
> THEN PROVIDE CONCLUSIVE PROOF THAT YOU CAN, IN FACT,
> FIGURE OUT HOW TO JUMP INTO A VOLCANO YOURSELF WITHOUT
> HAVING TO RESORT TO THE LOW-IQ "MONKEE SEE--MONKEY DO"
Unnecessary, Kulkis.
> Then provide us with conclusive proof that you can, in fact,
> figure out how to jump into Muana Loa, or any other active
> volcano of your choosing, WITHOUT needing to resot to the
> low-IQ "MONKEE SEE--MONKEE DO" method of instruction.
Unnecessary, Kulkis.
> Tholen, I'll bet you can't even picture in your mind what it would
> be like to travel up to the peak, walk up to the precipice, and take
> the plunge.
You lose the bet, Kulkis.
> No...because to even imagine such a thing would require a modicum
> of intelligence...something which you are severely lacking.
Prove it, if you think you can, Kulkis.
> In the mean time, do the world a fucking favor, Tholen
I'm trying to do just that right now, Kulkis, but you won't pay
attention.
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: M$ websites down again - Problem solved -> use Linux!
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:40:55 GMT
Thank you, this is very informative -
jjs
Milton wrote:
> The DNS service in Active Directory, has now proven itself to be
> severely flawed.
>
> http://www.lucent-netcare.com/knowledge/whitepapers/win_2k_dns_integration.asp
>
> "It is important to note that Microsoft's implementation of secure DNS
> update does not interoperate with DNS servers that support RFC 2137,
> so currently there is no mechanism to enforce secure DNS updates
> between Windows 2000 systems and a BIND DNS server.
>
> Note: BIND is what everyone but M$ uses.
>
> "It is also important to recognize that Windows 2000 DNS only provides
> secure updates when the DNS zones are configured as Active Directory
> Integrated zones. If a Windows 2000 DNS server contains zones that are
> configured as Standard Primary zones, *no security is provided.*
>
> The lack of secure updates between Windows 2000 and BIND will likely
> cause problems for a number of organizations. We'll discuss some
> options for these organizations in a section below entitled "DNS
> Implementation Strategies."
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:12:11 GMT
Mark Bratcher wrote:
>
> Oh, I get it now.
>
> This all falls under the "misc" part of "comp.os.linux.misc". :-)
>
This is comp.os.linux.misc!?! I thought it was comp.os.linux.humor! ;0
jamess
--
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler, the greatest jump forward in the evolution of computing...
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 03:25:27 -0600
John Travis wrote:
> :PROUD to be GEEK
> :http://www.geek-ware.co.uk
>
> LOL! At first I thought you were serious. Then I saw some hilarious
> lines like ...
It's also prophetic. It was posted way back in November, but if you look at
the bottom of the screenshot you see the eminently current "Cannot find
server."
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:28:13 GMT
"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers wrote:
> >>
> > Besides, Win2K has NTFS5 which doesn't have this problem anyhow.
>
> Give a hacker a DOS boot floppy and this product
>
> http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/ntfsdospro.shtml
>
> and see what happens.
>
Give a hacker physical access to a computer and kiss it goodbye. Doesn't
really matter what OS is running....
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From: "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Run for the hills!
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:37:32 GMT
Thank god I don't have a sense of humour, at least then people can look at
me straight in the eye without bursting out laughing.
kiwiunixman
"Pete Goodwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:P2Fc6.14346$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> kiwiunixman wrote:
>
> > hmm, how old are you Pete? From the maturity of your post, you sound
like
> > a 10 year old with a chip on his sholder.
>
> 40 years old.
>
> You've obviously never developed a "sense of humour".
>
> --
> Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
>
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From: "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:39:51 GMT
that depends if you want to get REAL working done, or if you just want to
tpc test all day.
kiwiunixman
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:xiCc6.28106$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > where has your reasoning been. I have been listening to Microsoft's
speechs
> > since NT was first encarnated, and not once, have they ever achieved
what
> > they wanted, that is, to be the almighty UNIX bashing OS.
>
> Who holds the #1 - #4 spots on the TPC.org TPC-C performance rankings?
>
> Thank you.
>
> <SNIP more ignorant banterings from a clueless individual>
>
> *PL0NK*
>
> -Chad
>
> >
> > "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:08pc6.27746$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > hence, Microsoft has a agenda to ensure that it works....FUCK THE
COST
> > AND
> > > > MESS! MAKE IT WORK!....the words of win-zombies over-lord, Bill
Gates.
> > > >
> > > > kiwiunixman
> > >
> > > Ah yes, the ever-present Penguinista voice of reason.
> > >
> > > -Chad
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:3a6ec863$0$45732$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >
> > > > > "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:94lfh7$ur$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > I've actually talked to some inside Microsoft people, and
Microsoft
> > > > > actually
> > > > > > sponsered the roll out etc, hence, not really a sign that
Windows is
> > > > > > superior, just shows how much marketing and con-job muscle
Microsoft
> > > > has.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've talked to some people involved in the roll out and it was
> > supported
> > > > by
> > > > > MS but hardly sponsored.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gates Vaccine
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 03:41:08 -0600
gryb wrote:
> The odd thing is --- it's not front page news.
http://cbsnews.com/
http://www.cnn.com/
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/top_stories/
And it hasn't even been 24 hours yet.
Yeah, and he really picked a low-profile forum to announce it in, too.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Check out "Author predicts the end of Microsoft" Video Clip at news.com
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:13:36 +1200
It's a small interview with the author of "Pride before the Fall".
I can't figure out how to link to it. But go to:
http://www.cnet.com
And type in "Pride before the Fall" into the search box.
Then click on the CNet TV link at the bottom of the page.
You may find it enlightening!
Regards,
Adam
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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound a networks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:32:24 +0000
Well, I switched to a Linux supported sound card.
I also added a second network card.
Windows 98 SE detected both, but had no drivers for them. I installed them
later and everything was working fine.
Linux detected the sound card but didn't actually appear to configure it. I
ran sndconfig and heard a badly distorted sound sample. Strange! I started
up X and KDE 2.0 launched with a pleasant startup sound. Hmm, so that works
after all.
Linux did not detect the second network card - does that mean that Linux
2.2 does not support two network cards or it simply doesn't recognise the
card?
--
Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: All this Whistler stuff.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:35:00 +0000
Martigan wrote:
> News articles around are claming this thing to be the greatest
> invention
> around. What I want know is if it is so great, an you can do so many
> things
> with it, why can't you customize it, i.e. the kernel? Cuz M$ don't want
> you
> to know! Plus is it is so great then why will there be a SR-1 about four
> months after it's release?
It's called hype. Everybody does it.
Why would you want to customize a kernel? Don't worry I can think of many
reasons why. I'd love to be able to leave Internet Explorer out of Windows
but I can't. So, I live with it.
However, I'm quite happy with a prebuilt kernel. I use one on Linux.
--
Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: All this Whistler stuff.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:36:01 +0000
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> What exactly would you like to customize in the kernel? Nearly any
> parameter the kernel uses for tuning is accesible through the registry.
Not so much the kernel but can I install Windows 98/ME/2000/Whistler
without Internet Explorer?
--
Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
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From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound a networks
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:52:28 GMT
In article <IwSc6.21275$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh it gets better and better.
I fired up XMMS and started listening to some music. Sound a bit
clickly/scratchy. Oh well.
I went to the www.dlink.com website to see if there was a Linux driver
for my new network card and... everything froze!
Mouse dead, XMMS stopped playing music. No key presses got me back to
the console. No network access (I mean I couldn't login, no telnet
etc.). So reboot.
I thought, oh well, a rare X hang.
Unfortunately, X now refuses to startup.
HUH?
I thought only Windows did this kind of thing? I changed nothing around
the video yet X is now dead?
This is the STABLE system you guys are crowing on about? I add some new
hardware and BANG the whole house of cards collapses!!!
--
---
Pete
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Ramen worm/virus cracks NASA and others
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 05:10:54 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <3a71dd4b$0$73986$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> OH gee, I guess we'll remember this when some site running IIS is cracked
> and the admin didn't apply all the available security patches and you try to
> blame the OS as vulnerable. Did you know that pretty much every NT/W2K
> defacement listed on attrition.org used known vulnerabilities that there
> are patches for. Guess if we eliminate these the story changes eh?
Microsoft hit 100 security bugs in 2000. An infamous record. There
were more security bugs in IIS than anything else. How are Microsoft
sys admins supposed to keep up. There were even sucurity bugs
introduced by the patches that were supposed to fix previous security
bugs. They just can't do anything right. Any admin that applies a
Microsoft security patch (or any Microsoft patch going by their past
record) on a strategic system before testing it themselves on an
isolated box deserves what they get. So there is a single worm
affecting non-patched RedHat systems. Just think of how many Microsoft
systems are out there which haven't been patched?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 05:33:12 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert) wrote:
>
> The main reason why just about all the software and high-technology items
> originate from the U.S. is we are free.
>
> That's the bottom line.
>
> Yet when you get into a discussion about Microsoft and it's monopolistic
> powers, the definition of the U.S. get's blurred.
Your concept of free is rather different than mine. In the US those with
money are free to exploit the majority. You only need to look at your
recent election and what Bush is already doing to realise you are far
from free. In most european countries it is much harder for those with
wealth to distort politics and force their desires on those not so
fortunate. Note I did say 'harder'. It does happen all the time of course
but nowhere near to the extent in the US.
The main reason most new technology orignates in the US is that you do
have incredible wealth. As for software, and many other areas of new
technology, much of it is done by immigrants. Your educational system
is a joke and with Bush it is going to become even worse. India is
already well on the way to becoming a major software developing
nation. And what about China? They won't pay the Microsoft tax and
hence are pushing Linux everywhere as is France. The US has had it
good for a long time but the rest of the world isn't sitting
still. Interesting times ahead methinks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 05:44:31 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <94spcu$pre$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> As for corrupt legislators, vote 'em out. "Oh but those nasty evil
>> corporations give so much money for TV ads." Tough. Go door to door if
>> you believe in something. Get others to do the same. Incite the
>> electorate. Don't bitch & moan. Tom Foley, then the Speaker of the US
>> House of Representatives, should have had a safe seat in congress, but
>> he was voted out in 1994 (not saying that was a good thing or not). It
>> can be done, but it does take work.
>
> Bullshit.
>
> As has been shown beyond the shadow of a doubt in the latest elections
> in the united states, your vote DOES NOT COUNT.
>
> Happy dreamworld,
Too true. Most democracies in the world exist because brave people gave
up their lives to get it. Now we have the situation where large multi-
national companies control politics. You cannot vote this kind of thing
out, especially in the US where both party's are almost as bad as each
other. I'm sure, come the next US presidential election, nothing will
have been done to control campaign spending. The difference next time
is that the fundy Christians will have greater control than they do now.
Can anyone tell me why there were 2 ministers speaking at Bush's inauguration
and why he said 'so help me god' at the end of his oath? I though religion
and state were separate in the US.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:02:29 +0100
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In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Finally, as for US politics, better bland/boring politics and a diverse
>> and vibrant society than the reverse.
>
> I think we can all agree that what happened in florida during this past
> election could be defined at the very least as a highly disorganized and
> flawed state electoral system.
>
> A scary thought is that florida may just be the mean in this circumstance.
>
> Half the states may be worse than that.
>
> Ah, but "its the system, and its the only one we've got; we have to live
> with it", in the words of half a dozen bush-supporting senators in the
> face of the less-than landslide (and real) victory.
What complacency! Yes the Florida vote was a joke. What I don't understand
is why, when the difference between the candidates state wide was less than
the margin of error of the machines counting the votes, a mandatory manual
count of the whole state wasn't done. I'm only using this as an example as
I'm sure there were many states where this should have happened. You now
have a president with very strong christian views (I use the term christian
very loosely as where did Jesus ever say you should execute people) imposing
them on a country where he doesn't even have a majority of those who voted.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 05:51:37 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> why is having a guy as President that actually has a universal set of
> morals such a bad thing? Some people view having a good moral
> background as more important than being able to supposedly invent the
> Internet or 'putting the economy back on track'. They are only his
> morals in the fact that he has embraced them, just like most other
> Christians in the world. You can't say he shouldn't share them b/c they
> are God's to share, not his. If Bush dies those morals still exist, even
> if a lot of people like making their own.
Christians aren't the only people to have morals. Most religions are based
on morals and atheists have morals. Jimmy Carter is a sincere christian
but he didn't ram christianity down peoples throats. The religious right
in the US is an oxymoron. If you have ever read the new testament you
would know this. I'm an atheist by the way who had a very moral upbringing.
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From: Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound a networks
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 12:01:54 +0100
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> Oh it gets better and better.
>
> I fired up XMMS and started listening to some music. Sound a bit
> clickly/scratchy. Oh well.
>
> I went to the www.dlink.com website to see if there was a Linux driver
> for my new network card and... everything froze!
>
> Mouse dead, XMMS stopped playing music. No key presses got me back to
> the console. No network access (I mean I couldn't login, no telnet
> etc.). So reboot.
>
> I thought, oh well, a rare X hang.
>
> Unfortunately, X now refuses to startup.
>
> HUH?
>
> I thought only Windows did this kind of thing? I changed nothing around
> the video yet X is now dead?
>
> This is the STABLE system you guys are crowing on about? I add some new
> hardware and BANG the whole house of cards collapses!!!
Pleasepost the producent and modem of Network cards and the same for the
sound card. This way this "bug" could be reused by other wintrolls.
Off course youre a game developer... cant you even solve a basic hardware
problem? Why even brag about that you cant solve it?
--
Cheers
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