Linux-Advocacy Digest #781, Volume #33 Sun, 22 Apr 01 14:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Chad Myers")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Mathew)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Chad Myers")
Re: Windows 98 and denial (Donn Miller)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Get it hot (Donn Miller)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Chronos Tachyon)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Dennis Yelle)
Re: SQL Server sales up 44% in Q1 (mlw)
Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism, Communist
propagandists in the US...still..to this day.) ("TAO")
Re: Buy Microsoft stock!!! ("ipslo")
Re: What's the point (Michael Vester)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("jet")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:55:38 GMT
"Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9btjqu$h5d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Jon Johansan wrote:
> > >
> > > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
> > >
> > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> > >
> > > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing that
> the
> > > company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he hopes
> to
> > > reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial outlay.
> > > "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes rather
> than a
> > > saving in purchase price," he said.
> > >
> > > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
> availability,
> > > reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will reduce
> > > operational costs by managing a single server rather than thousands.
> >
> > It is a pretty funny article. I will print a copy and wait a year and have
> a
> > good chuckle.
>
> The article claims a few other companies have already gone to W2DC and have
> good success... did you read the article?
When I was in consulting, several banks in our town converted from a
Unix/Novell/OS2 solution to a stratight NT solution. Later, when Win2K came out,
they migrated to that to make their already functional solution even that
much better.
They were all to happy to rid themselves of Novell and OS/2. They were a little
shaky about moving away from Unix because they have been fed a lifetime of
the typically Unix lies ("it's more stable", "it's faster", etc) but once
they had a professional NT 4 setup running, they realized the power. They had
no downtime and only increases in performance.
Security had also been improved since there weren't issues with matching
accounts on disperate systems any more, either.
It just makes the most sense.
-c
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Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
From: Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:11:47 +1000
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> silverback wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:36:27 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >silverback wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:25:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael
> > >> Ejercito) wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:26:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >(silverback) wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:31:34 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > >> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>Mathew wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Oh Capitalist have murdered their onw population as well.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>MURDERED? Millions of their own populace? really?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>Do tell.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>Accuracy counts, so be precise.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>sure 100K killed on the job yearly
> > >> > Proof? And ebign killed on the job is usually not murder.
> > >> i
> > >>
> > >> it sure the fuck is if there were violations of safety standards. And
> > >
> > >Then they could have just quit and found some other job.
> >
> > nope
>
> You're saying they were impressed into slavery at gunpoint?
Slavery;child labour
Supporting dictatorships that killed opponenets,enslavened workers to
live on wage that keeps them malnourished and hungry.
>
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
>
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:57:56 GMT
"Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9btk47$iqs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Jon Johansan wrote:
> > >
> > > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
> > >
> > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> > >
> > > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing that
> the
> > > company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he hopes
> to
> > > reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial outlay.
> > > "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes rather
> than a
> > > saving in purchase price," he said.
> > >
> > > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
> availability,
> > > reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will reduce
> > > operational costs by managing a single server rather than thousands.
> >
> > Here in the body of the article you say they are moving from "expensive"
> > Unix machines to Windows 2000 Datacentre, yet, in the subject you say,
> > "bank switches from using NT 4", bit of a contridiction?
>
> Not really.
>
> W2DC boxes are far less expensive that UNIX counterparts.
Especially when you consider that all Win2KDC OEMs provide uptime
guarantees in the 4 and 5 9's range for only a fraction of the cost
of a similar guarantee for a Unix system.
> And one W2DC box is certainly less expensive than 50 NT machines.
>
> W2DC is not much more than W2KAS with *only* certified drivers and a few
> additional (albeit very nice) features for data center usage.
>
> > Also, the
> > article failed to mention what version of Unix they were using? Why
> > didn't they replace it with a nice new SUN StarFire w/ Ultra Sparc III
> > Processor in it running Oracle?
>
> Then you are paying a lot more than you need to... UNIX is still far too
> expensive because of the dedicated software + the hardware.
Far, far too expensive for LESS performance even! There's no reason to go
Unix any more these days. It just doesn't make sense no matter what perspective
you're looking from. Price? Nope. Performance? Heck no. Security? Yeah, right.
Win2K is better all around.
-c
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:26:20 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 98 and denial
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> > And yes, sed really DOES work on binary executables. That's how I did
> > it.
>
> Neat! I have to try this.
Actually, don't try it. I was just making fun of Aaron. I think
Netscape 4.7x just uses the std. C library uname() function to identify
the OS. Here's why my headers say Linux:
$ sysctl compat.linux
compat.linux.osname: Linux
compat.linux.osrelease: 2.2.12
compat.linux.oss_version: 198144
$ uname -srm
FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386
Linux emulation, ya know. 8-)
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:29:58 +0200
"Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3ae1d487$0$18533$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
>
> http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
>
> Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing that
the
> company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he hopes to
> reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial outlay.
> "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes rather than
a
> saving in purchase price," he said.
>
> Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the availability,
> reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will reduce
> operational costs by managing a single server rather than thousands.
Single server? A single computer that can go down?
Bad idea!
Beside, doesn't Unix systems can run on machines with much more machines
than W2DC can?
And even if you put that aside, no single server is going to replace
thousanads servers. At least not in the x86 world.
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:32:08 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Get it hot
Martin Eden wrote:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.3R/announce.html
At least you're not running Windows 98. 8-)
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From: Chronos Tachyon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:36:01 GMT
On Sun 22 Apr 2001 09:26, Chad Everett wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 06:16:51 GMT, Chronos Tachyon
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Sun 22 Apr 2001 12:21, Chad Everett wrote:
>>
[Snip]
>>>
>>> Thank you for proving my point.
>>>
>>
>>*sigh*
>>
>>I was going to try and respond with reason, but I saw exactly where this
>>is going and decided it wasn't worth it. I have my opinion, and you have
>>yours (however flawed I might perceive it to be), and in all likelihood I
>>could no more argue my case and convince you that diversity is a good
>>thing than I could convince one of the wintrolls that Linux really is a
>>better OS. I've seen it before, and I don't feel like debating the value
>>of my existence with yet another faceless stranger who shouts "It's the
>>Evil Commie Leftist Homosexual Conspiracy! Dear God, Somebody Save the
>>Children!"
>>
>
> But I didn't say anything like that did I? You created a straw man
> so you could knock it down.
>
How so? You basically claim that there is a Homosexual Conspiracy that
wishes to overthrow the 1st Amendment rights of freedom of speech and
religion, then claim that said conspiracy is also trying to brainwash
children -- "They want to teach my children all about homosexuality and
prevent me from saying one word in protest about it." My caricature of
your argument, however exaggerated, is basically correct.
For the record, I never said that children should be taught about
homosexuality -- I said that they should be taught diversity, that kids
should learn that racism, sexism, homo-bigotry, ageism, and any other -ism
you can think of are ALL WRONG and that people should be judged only by
their merits.
The unfortunate aspect of this is, of course, the fine line between
parents' rights and society's rights. On one hand, you have parents with
swastikas on their walls teaching their children to be racist. On the
other hand, you have Brave New World. The question is, as always, where
should the line be drawn? Current law reflects the popular opinion that
parents should generally be held higher than society -- but we also have
laws against "unfit" parents, so the issue is not as black or white as it
might first seem.
> You put words in my mouth. What would you think if I put the words:
> "I just want to molest little boys" into your mouth? Would you
> appreciate that?
>
No, of course not.
> But I didn't say anything like that did I? You created a straw man
> so you could knock it down.
>
Go back and read what you wrote. You *did* say those things.
> I said that the homosexual lobby in the US is actively trying to
> curb free speech and freedom of religion, and it's true. Follow
> up posters have proven it's true by going into great detail on
> WHY they want to do just that.
>
Umm, what? I don't see how things like the Employment Non-Discrimination
Act (ENDA, which came before a Republican and non-gay-friendly congress a
few years back yet came within a few votes of becoming law) are meant to
curb other people's right to free speech and religion. I would fight for
your right to speak and worship freely just as strongly as I would fight
for my own.
However, I'm not representative of the gay "community" (really, just a
bunch of people with widely differing beliefs, opinions, and experiences
who all happen to have homosexuality in common). Like any group of widely
divergent people, there are a majority of moderates drowned out by a small
number of shouting extremists.
> The original poster made the claim that "it's their own business"
> and that other somehow want to intrude into their private lives.
> I was pointing out what a ridiculous statement this was, since
> exactly the opposite is true.
>
How could things like anti-sodomy laws and the possibility of being evicted
for no good reason NOT intrude into people's private lives?
--
Chronos Tachyon
Guardian of Eristic Paraphernalia
Gatekeeper of the Region of Thud
[Reply instructions: My real domain is "echo <address> | cut -d. -f6,7"]
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From: Dennis Yelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 09:38:51 -0700
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Steve Long wrote:
[...]
> > Almost every significant computer technology advacement has come from IBM or
> > Xerox, with IBM having the bulk of them. Just a fact, like it or not.
>
> Don't be so naive.
>
> AT&T (multi-platform OS, the TRANSISTOR [electron valve] and lots of other stuff...)
> Texas Instruments (first IC chip)
> Intel (first Microprocessor)
> MIT (share your code with your friend (original "hacker")/Open Source culture)
> MOSTEK (microcontroller)
> DEC (standardization of the 8-bit byte as the standard base memory unit)
> US DARPA (Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency) TCP/IP
And who invented virtual memory?
I remember that IBM claimed to have invented it,
but that was years after we had already started using it.
Dennis Yelle
--
I am a computer programmer and I am looking for a job.
There is a link to my resume here:
http://table.jps.net/~vert/
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: SQL Server sales up 44% in Q1
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 13:03:11 -0400
MH wrote:
> I'm not defending it, I couldn't care less what they, you, or anyone else
> uses. I'll find a way to deal with whatever. --The fact remains that many
> orgs. of various shapes and sizes are going to ms solutions.
> .Net will only increase this.
Who was it? Mark Twain? "More money than sense." An MS Solutions system costs
more, is less reliable, and is less capable than one which is created from
choosing the best components for the job.
--
I'm not offering myself as an example; every life evolves by its own laws.
========================
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: "TAO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism,
Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:05:51 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >
> > >> If you get caught with a women that is not your wife,you can go to
jail
> > >> for this;the women might be put to death.
> >
> > Aaron> What part of adultery is against the law do you not
understand?
> >
> > It's a freedom thing, you would not understand.
>
> Remind me to come over and get your wife pregnant while you're at work.
>
Good folks don't break the guy code by doin' other guys' wives.
It is not a legal thing; it is a moral thing; obviously this concept is
beyond your understanding.
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From: "ipslo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Buy Microsoft stock!!!
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:23:55 GMT
Just build your own computer. The parts are really cheap these days and
you have total control and it is actually a fun project.
In article <CazE6.8183$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am looking for a new computer and found that Dell have a decent price
> on PIII boxes (Dimension L system). I choosed configuration for
> hardware, but it showed that the only OS I can get with this
> configutation is WinME. I don't want WinME - so called DELL and asked if
> I can get Linux RH instead. "No problem" - answered sell representative,
> and calculated that that the same configuration with Linux will be about
> $200 more expensive. He gave me some vague explanation why - but the
> fact is that if you want to buy Linux from DELL, it is cheaper to pay
> for Win system and to install Linux by yourself.
> So Microsoft have a great case - you can buy Linux from DELL.
>
> Zalek
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From: Michael Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:57:58 -0700
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Roy Culley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > When talking about your file system, there shouldn't be *ANY* bugs. MS
> is
> > > very loathe to make changes to it's file system, and when it does, it
> spends
> > > eons testing them. FAT32 started testing before Windows 95 came out,
> but
> > > didn't actually appear in a product until nearly 2 years later.
> > >
> > > Any possible bug in your filesystem should scare the living hell out of
> you.
> > > One bug can corrupt your entire disk.
> >
> > You really are an obstreperous bastard. The reason why reiserfs was
> > not incorporated into the first 2.4.0 release was not because of bugs.
>
> Really? Explain why 2.4.2 has a Reiserfs bug fixed.
>
> Explain why 2.4.3 has not zero, not one, but THREE bugs regarding the
> Reiserfs fixed?
>
> Explain why 2.4.4 pre-4 has a Reiserfs bug fixed in it so far.
>
> > SuSE, a major contributor to reiserfs development, has been using it
> > on their servers for a long time. They have provided it with their
> > distributions for a long time. On the SuSE mailing list many people
> > would ask if reiserfs is stable enough. SuSE people themselves replied
> > saying they used it on servers with huge partitions and that it was
> > rock solid.
>
> It may be "rock solid" in the vast majority of circumstances, but you can't
> predict when you will become the exception to the rule.
>
> > To say that MS is loath to release critical software
> > before doing eons of testing has to be one of the biggest jokes
> > ever. MS hasn't given a toss about quality until the Internet became a
> > big thing. They are now producing a fairly reliable operating system
> > but only after the huge embarrassment of so many bugs being made
> > public via the Internet.
>
> MS's file systems have always been rock solid. They take the file system as
> a very important piece of the puzzle.
That explains it, losedos is a puzzle.
--
Michael Vester
A credible Linux advocate
"The avalanche has started, it is
too late for the pebbles to vote"
Kosh, Vorlon Ambassador to Babylon 5
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 22 Apr 2001 12:37:01 -0500
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9bslu3$njp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jon Johansan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
>
> > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
>
> > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing that
the
> > company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he hopes
to
> > reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial outlay.
> > "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes rather
than a
> > saving in purchase price," he said.
>
> > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
availability,
> > reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will reduce
> > operational costs by managing a single server rather than thousands.
>
> Welcome to a single point of failure.
>
> This is why pointy haired types should NEVER make any sort of
technological
> decision.
SO I guess by your logic all big iron boxes like those from IBM and Sun are
crap and should be immedateily replaced by 1000s of cheap 386 rejects
running linux/beowulf?
Did you consider for even a second that the box was a highly redundant
system capable of running at 5 9s or beyond? Did you even figure out that
replacing 1000s with a single server doesn't mean there is only 1 server
total, if they have 3000 servers before, and the replacement ratio is 1000
to 1, then they now have 3 servers. Besides - if it's that critical I would
use a two server cluster for failover redundancy but would call it one
server cause essentially it is.
PC users should not pretend to be enterprise engineers.
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:54:24 -0700
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> jet wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:58:00 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> > What does this have to do with Linux advocacy? Is Linux, an
> > > > >> > Is Lamic womans choice of OS?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> No, of course not; they're not allowed to make such choices.
Linux
> > for
> > > > >> women's rights! :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Fuck them. They already have too mancy privileges and not enough
> > > > > responsibilities, you simpering, ass-kissing ninny
> > > >
> > > > more anti-freedom rhetoric from anti-freedom Kulkis.
> > >
> > > Let's see...
> > >
> > > What do you call a system where
> > >
> > > Class A has many burdensome restrictions and many responsibilities
> > > bot Class B, and NO privileges,
> > >
> > > while Class B has unlimited freedoms, no restrictions and zero
> > > responsibilites to Class A
> > >
> > >
> > > That is called FEUDALISM, is it not?
> > >
> > >
> > > Now...look at the society which feminism has made for us.
> > >
> > > Class A above is defined as "men"
> > > Class B above is defined as "women"
> > >
> >
> > In your little fantasy world. I have unlimited freedoms and no
restrictions?
> > I can ignore all traffic laws? Too bad the cop that pulled me over
didn't
>
> "Booo hoooo hoooo, sob sob, my father (or husband) will kill me if I
> get a ticket, boo hoooo hoooo"
I was just pointing out that you are a liar and/or moron when you claim that
women have no restrictions.
> "aw, poor little dearie...here's a warning"
And a ticket.
J
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 22 Apr 2001 12:46:03 -0500
"Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9bv0nk$a2k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:3ae1d487$0$18533$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
> >
> > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> >
> > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing that
> the
> > company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he hopes
to
> > reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial outlay.
> > "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes rather
than
> a
> > saving in purchase price," he said.
> >
> > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
availability,
> > reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will reduce
> > operational costs by managing a single server rather than thousands.
>
> Single server? A single computer that can go down?
> Bad idea!
This doesn't mean literally one single server for the entire company.
It means what he said, replacing 1000s with a single server - but there
could be more than one server for more than 1000s replaced servers.
> Beside, doesn't Unix systems can run on machines with much more machines
> than W2DC can?
So?
> And even if you put that aside, no single server is going to replace
> thousanads servers. At least not in the x86 world.
Depends on what those other servers were and what they did. It's not
necessarily a horsepower equation.
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 22 Apr 2001 12:47:02 -0500
"mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jon Johansan wrote:
> >
> > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
> >
> > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> >
> > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing that
the
> > company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he hopes
to
> > reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial outlay.
> > "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes rather
than a
> > saving in purchase price," he said.
> >
> > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
availability,
> > reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will reduce
> > operational costs by managing a single server rather than thousands.
>
> It is a pretty funny article. I will print a copy and wait a year and have
a
> good chuckle.
A year from now remind me and I'll show you all the linux failure articles I
collect. I had to make seperate folders for different months.
You act as if this is an isolated or rare incident.
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 22 Apr 2001 12:48:03 -0500
"Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9btjqu$h5d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Jon Johansan wrote:
> > >
> > > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
> > >
> > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> > >
> > > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing
that
> the
> > > company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he
hopes
> to
> > > reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial outlay.
> > > "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes rather
> than a
> > > saving in purchase price," he said.
> > >
> > > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
> availability,
> > > reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will reduce
> > > operational costs by managing a single server rather than thousands.
> >
> > It is a pretty funny article. I will print a copy and wait a year and
have
> a
> > good chuckle.
>
> The article claims a few other companies have already gone to W2DC and
have
> good success... did you read the article?
>
> -Todd
Of course he didn't - he's a blind zealot
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