Linux-Advocacy Digest #801, Volume #31 Sun, 28 Jan 01 20:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: M$ websites down again - Problem solved -> use Linux! ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push. ("Edward Rosten")
Re: you guys suck and so does your os! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push. ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Microsoft DEATH NECKLESS is COMPLETE!!! ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does) )
("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: M$ websites down again - Problem solved -> use Linux! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy! (spicerun)
Re: Sound a networks ("Kyle Jacobs")
The Truth ("Joshua Beard")
Re: Sound a networks ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: How long does your box run for? ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does) )
("Kyle Jacobs")
XFS 1.0 is getting close! ("Adam Warner")
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: M$ websites down again - Problem solved -> use Linux!
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:25:25 -0600
"CR Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > "CR Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "CR Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > This is too funny! MS has outsourced its DNS to a company servers
are
> > > > > using a "networking implementation very similar to that of Linux."
> > > > >
> > > > > This is even worse for them than the original event. They now have
to
> > > > > admit they can't run a big network and switch to people running
Linux!
> > > >
> > > > MS outsourced part of it's DNS to provide geographical seperation of
> > it's
> > > > DNS servers. It hardly matters what servers the outsourcing firm
uses,
> > so
> > > > long as they can provide the service. MS has done similar things
> > before,
> > > > for instance it's MSN user homepages are outsourced to a company
running
> > > > FreeBSD or Linux IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > Outsourcing is not a sign of "Our products can't handle this" but
rather
> > "We
> > > > can't do everything in one location, and we don't have any other
> > datacenters
> > > > in other parts of the country".
> >
> > <space inserted since you can't seem to be bothered with proper
formatting>
> >
> > > Yeah, right. Like MS only owns one building and that building has only
> > > one free room. Perhaps they only have one phone line too. So, I'm
> > > suppose to trust my business to a company too cheap to rent a closet
in
> > > New York or Florida?
> >
> > More than 95% of MS technical buildings are all in the Seattle area.
> >
> > Have you any idea how long it takes to get a new T3 or OC connection
> > installed? Call up your local phone company and ask. Typically it
takes
> > 3-6 months, if you're VERY lucky. This is not something MS could have
had
> > done in 3 or 4 days, no matter how much money they threw at it. The
Akamai
> > servers are extra redunancy, that's it.
>
> So are you saying MS hasn't been doing Internet for more than 3 months
> or that Bell South couldn't get a T3 connection done in the last 10
> years? Or is it that buildings are sooooo expensive in Mississippi that
> MS couldn't afford to buy one?
I'm saying that MS decided in the last few days to create geographical
seperation of their DNS servers. This is not something you can do
overnight, since it requires months of planning, construction of new lines,
etc... It's far easier to just outsource it to a third party that's already
providing the services.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy!
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:08:55 -0500
tony roth wrote:
>
> bs snipped once again,
Then why did you leave it in, SHIT-FOR-BRAINS?
> I sure that you can prove any of this? right?
> Actually make linux useful for the masses, screw the gui; then lets see if
> it will be stable!
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Has anyone noticed the new line of FUD from the Winvocates?
> >
> > "Linux is more stable, until you put a GUI on it."
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push.
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:13:07 +0000
> Edward Rosten wrote:
>
>> If you bought a car and it was crap and broke down the whole time,
>> would you buy another of the same make . Lets say you gave them a
>> second chance when they said the new version is really reliable, but it
>> wasn't.
>
> What other choice is there compared to Windows?
>
> Macintosh? What software?
There's most software that most people need. You can do web stuff, edit
photos, do email, wordprocessing, spreadsheets. That's what most people
do.
> Linux? Reputed to be a geek's tool with quirky installation and X
> software.
The installation is a damn sight easier than windows. Besides, what about
the Linux preloads avaliable now?
> Taking your car analogy - there's only one car out there. It's glossy,
> it's fat and it leaves a mess on the carpet.
>> So why do the Winvocates keep trusting a company that has consistently
>> produced bad goos?
>
> Because it has something that Linux doesn't have working reliably as
> yet. The desktop.
No it doesn't: it's not reliable. It crashes. I still don't understand why
people keep paying for goods from a company that keeps making bad goods.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: you guys suck and so does your os!
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:14:59 -0500
Tony Neville wrote:
>
> "Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Beaumont wrote:
> >
> > <Needless sillyness deleted>
> >
> > >By the way, the other question for you, reading my mail - do you think I am
> > >pro Linux or against?
> > >
> > >-chris
> > >
> >
> > Despite *THIS* newsgroup or *THESE* newsgroups, you can not deny
> > that Linux is growing at a rapid rate.
>
> That's no indication of one OS's popularity compared to another. A 1% increase
> in sales of Windows OSs may equate to, says, one million purchases, whereas
> a 25% increase in sales of Linux OS may equate to 500 thousand purchases.
> Microsoft's Windows OSs have a massive userbase already in existence, so
> of course its rate of growth would be lower. If Mr Bloggs created an OS and
> gave a copy to a friend who installed it on his pc, its rate of growth would be
> 100%. Would you then say Bloggs' OS is becoming more popular than
> either Linux or Windows? Naaaaahhhhoooo....
>
If I told you that you had a termite infestation, and that the size of a
termite colony grows at 25% /month, would you say, "oh, it's only a *small*
termite colony" and forget about it?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push.
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:18:14 +0000
In article <Xq%c6.65792$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chris
Clement" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> True. I've had precicely no crashes in 2 years. But I've had X lock up
>> twice (I'm not counting times where I did stupid stuff as root) I use
>> my comuter pretty much every day. It is still ver stable when running
>> with a GUI. In fact, the X crashes didn't require a reboot.
>
> True. In most cases, I could stop X and restart and solve the problem.
> Recently I downloaded a large file and left it on the / partition. When
> I booted up, X crashed because the partition had no free space and the
> font server could not start. This, of course, was my own negligence.
Yes, you can't really blame X for that
> On the other hand, our servers at work have been W2K since it was
> introduced. The stability of W2K is very impressive.
On the other hand? What point are you trying to make. I think Win2K
wouldn't behave very well if it had no disk space to work in.
> > > use Red Hat Linux 7 on my laptop and have found it to be quite good,
>> > but crashes do happen. Although I would have no problem running it as
>> > a server from the command line, W2K is much more stable in an GUI
>> > environment.
>>
>> I disagree. I have found X to be very stable.
>
> Really? What windows manager do you use?
FVWM2 (under AnotherLevel, MWM look). I sometimes switch to WindowMaker
when I get bored of FVWM2.
>> > But I must say, RH7 is 1000 times better than when I
>> > used RH5.2. If the trend continues, Linux very well may catch up to
>> > Microsoft in this regard. I certainly hope so.
>>
>> RH5.2 was very good. Still is. My system based on RH 5.2, and it works
>> very well.
>
> Glad it works better for you than it did for me. Just didn't like me I
> guess.
Without a hitch. I've had to upgrade the kernel, though, to take advantage
of some new hardware that I bought.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft DEATH NECKLESS is COMPLETE!!!
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:26:30 -0600
"Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > "Peter Köhlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just a few? How many is a few? Apple II, Commodore 64, PET,
trs-80,
> > > > color computer, Altair, TS-1000/ZX-81, Unisys A and B systems, CDC
Cyber
> > > > systems, Cray I, II, III, XMP and YMP, ETA 1, Connection Machines,
> > > > RS-6000, AS/400,
> > > > IBM System 36/38, Any number of VAX systems, IBM 43xx, Tandems, HP
> > 9000,
> > > > Psion...
> > > >
> > > > I could go on for quite some time you know for systems that don't
have
> > > > Linux ports.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Well, now you have to take that AS/400 off the list. IBM is working on
> > that
> > > Linux-port and Beta is expected later this year (native mode,
naturally).
> >
> > When it's released, I will.
> >
> To use your own style of "logic": Charlie never mentioned "released"
> or "of post-beta status" in his post, only that there had to be a form
> of linux working for a certain computer.
When people are using it for production, it's good enough for me. When IBM
or anyone else is running a web server on an AS/400 under Linux, i'll
concede that it's a working port.
> > > By the way, to include Apple II, TRS-80 etc on that list just shows
that
> > > you don't have a clue. These machines certainly have more brain than
you
> > > show by this argument.
> >
> > I'm making a point. Charlie said there were only a few computers that
don't
> > have Linux ports to it. Last I looked, those were computers.
> >
> This is exactly the kind of "logic" that will win you a "kook of the
> month" award, Erik.
> You also forgot the ENIAC.
The ENIAC is no longer in use, but certainly all the other systems I
mentioned are.
> > > Microsoft is supporting Intel and Alpha and nothing else (and that
only
> > for
> > > the NT-versions of Wintendo(tm), consumer-products like wintendo9xx
are
> > > left out.)
> >
> > Those are dead products, being discontinued this year.
> >
> Do you mean that Windows will be discontinued this year?
Windows 9x, yes. It's being replaced by Whistler personal edition.
> > > > Never looked at the number of processors supported by CE, have you?
> > >
> > > Well, i don't ask my pocket-calculator either what os it's working on.
CE
> > > is just plain dumb, it's Wintendo(tm) made even smaller (if thats
possible
> > > at all). Word for CE is little better than a slightly extended NotePad
> > from
> > > Win3.1. You must be kidding to include CE-machines in the same
sentence
> > > as computing.
> >
> > CE is a powerful system. Hell, there are dozens of thin client
terminals
> > running on CE.
> >
> Please name twenty-four.
>
> Or twelve.
The compaq T1010
http://www5.compaq.com/products/thinclients/T1010/index.html
The Boundless Capio II Family of thin clients
http://www.boundless.com/Thin_Client_Products/Capio_Family/
The NCD ThinStar family
http://www.ncd.com/products/hardware/thinstar/200ds.html
http://www.ncd.com/products/hardware/thinstar/300ds.html
http://www.ncd.com/products/hardware/thinstar/400ds.html
The Neoware 3000
http://www.neoware.com/neostation_ce_about.html
The Televideo TeleClient family (6 models)
http://www.televideo.com/home/
The Wyse Winterm family (8 models)
http://www.wyse.com/products/winterm/
And that's just a quick search. There are more.
> > You seem to think that a computer is only a computer if it runs the
latest
> > version of Linux.
>
> It is, by all practical standards, a good definition
Not even. Recall that most of the embedded versions of Linux are still
based on old kernels.
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does)
)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:17:45 GMT
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:952c93$hk7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>> Key word here is "good"
> >>>
> >>
> >>When that's the keyword, MS crap falls out of the picture.
>
> > Tell that to the 95 percent of the world that is using MS.
>
> Oh. Its the best because everyone uses it.
>
> Thats some argument youve got there.
The road less traveled is less traveled for a reason genius.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: M$ websites down again - Problem solved -> use Linux!
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:18:38 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "CR Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >This is even worse for them than the original event. They now have to
> > >admit they can't run a big network and switch to people running Linux!
> >
> > The DNS service in Active Directory, has now proven itself to be
> > severely flawed.
> >
> >
> http://www.lucent-netcare.com/knowledge/whitepapers/win_2k_dns_integration.a
> sp
> >
> > "It is important to note that Microsoft's implementation of secure DNS
> > update does not interoperate with DNS servers that support RFC 2137,
> > so currently there is no mechanism to enforce secure DNS updates
> > between Windows 2000 systems and a BIND DNS server.
> >
> > Note: BIND is what everyone but M$ uses.
>
> Note: The article is well over a year old. RFC 2137 is obsolete, and is
> replaced by RFC 3007
>
Enough with the Red Herrings, Erik.
M$ DNS servers are insecure....and there's NO getting around it.
Now....try this for a while, you pathetic little fool:
1. SIT DOWN
2. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
> Also note that this talks about SECURE updates. Also, I believe that BIND
> has been updated to adress these problems quite some time ago.
>
> > "It is also important to recognize that Windows 2000 DNS only provides
> > secure updates when the DNS zones are configured as Active Directory
> > Integrated zones. If a Windows 2000 DNS server contains zones that are
> > configured as Standard Primary zones, *no security is provided.*
> >
> > The lack of secure updates between Windows 2000 and BIND will likely
> > cause problems for a number of organizations. We'll discuss some
> > options for these organizations in a section below entitled "DNS
> > Implementation Strategies."
>
> DNS secure updates weren't added to BIND until version 9, which came out
> last year I believe.
>
> > Apparently, these problems bit M$ in the ass.
>
> Yes, MS was actually implementing these standards before BIND did. That was
> the problem.
>
> > Also
> > NET is built on the premise of %100 reliability of Active Directory and
> > it's implementation of DNS, therefore .NET is DOA.
>
> You don't know what you're talking about. .NET is not built on DNS or
> ActiveDirectory at all. Most of what .NET is, doesn't even involve the
> network.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: spicerun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy!
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:22:05 GMT
J Sloan wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Well, my scanner, sound card, mouse, tape back up and printer don't
>> work, but Linux sure is a great operating system.
>
>
> He's obviously a convert from windows - if he had built
> a Linux system from scratch it would be a simple matter
> to select comnpatible components.
I wish you'd get off this 'built just for Linux' kick. My system wasn't
built for Linux (including
a motherboard that has way too many Windows only warnings and
utilities). Amazing how my
system works much better then Windows ever did (Win98 & WinNT)on it. In
fact, my system works
perfectly with the Netgear and Dlink Network Cards, and the Soundblaster
Live Card that these
'Wintrolls' can't 'seem' to get a handle on. Even better is that I
added at Christmas time an ATI
Rage Fury Pro Card on my main Linux system after testing it on a Windows
2K system just to
see what to expect. I'm still amazed at how much better the
acceleration is on Linux for this
card then it is for the Win2K box.
Similiarly at work, I have a PIII-600Mhz Dell Precision 410 System that
certainly wasn't designed
for Linux. However, I was able to put Redhat-7 on it and got all
devices working including the
usually elusive onboard Sound chip to work perfectly (Crystal Soundchip
hooked up like an
ISA PnP device).
So, with all due respect, the difference between a box designed for
Windows, and a box designed for
Linux, in terms of Linux supporting the Hardware, has gotten very small.
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Sound a networks
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:20:09 GMT
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:95216p$mul$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Fact Abraxas.
> > Accept it and go on with your life.
>
> You didnt pick one. Because I feel that humanity is basically Good,
> I am forced to assume that you are an idiot.
Oh bull fucking shit. Your the guy who would sooner torch every single
person at your job who doesn't know how to recompile their word processor to
support their spelling mistakes before you would teach them how to use the
spell checker.
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From: "Joshua Beard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: The Truth
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:34:29 -0600
http://www.unix-vs-nt.org/kirch/
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Sound a networks
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:21:39 GMT
"Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > You have the power of the CLI at your finger tips.
>
> Don't forget to try mpg123 to play MP3's at the console. :-) Sad to say,
but
> in order to win over the Windows users, at least, Linux needs to support
> sound HW as widely as possible. It doesn't matter much how stable your
box is.
> If it can't play sound and videos, people are going to bitch, especially
> Windows converts looking for instant gratification. Those types of people
> expect things to work, and if they don't, they bitch.
Oh yes, because god forbid something in Linux should work properly without
needing an upgrade, replacement or recompilation.
> I hate it when new sound drivers are committed to the CVS tree that break
> existing sound drivers. I see that sometimes in FreeBSD. New files are
> committed to the kernel source tree to fix a problem with xxx soundcard,
but
> it ends up breaking yyy soundcard. It's frustrating as hell.
But that's FreeBSD, not Linux.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How long does your box run for?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:26:00 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tim"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Edward Rosten wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious, so I'd thought I'd fire off a question:
>>
>> How many of you leave your Linux boxen on 24/7 and how many of you
>> switch them off every night?
>
> On 24/7 apart for hardware upgrade.
>
> Every time you switch on your computer it looses one day of it's life.
> Sort of like smoking I guess, it's just another bad habit.
Well, the life of the processor and mobo will be extended. The life of
the PSU and HDDs will be decreased.
The moniter will be unafected (its a TFT moniter, so switching it on and
off repetedly will have little effect).
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does)
)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 00:25:37 GMT
"Kevin Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The price is the thing. We can get ten Linux servers as good or
> better than 1 AIX server, 4 Solaris servers or 3 Windows servers.
>
> This is why Linux rules.
Except for the small issue that Windows NT is still in place, while you
linzealots insist that Linux can replace Windows on the desktop. It can't,
sadly, dolts like Kulkis (who would sooner lob off his left testicle then
admit to a UNIX based anything having anything less than total perfection)
are your biggest, most well heard, albeit unofficial spokesmen.
> And when you add that it is free to cluster these ten boxes and
> not to cluster any of the others then performance and power ramps
> up exponentially.
Great, Linux has free clustering, that IS a good perk. Now, when those
clustering devices can multiprocess a method to eradicate the minutia that
supports the platform AND transform it into a GUI based platform, we'll call
that a technological revolution.
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From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XFS 1.0 is getting close!
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:31:33 +1200
Hi all,
The XFS 0.9 Pre-Release is now available for the 2.4 kernel:
http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html
There's a nice July 2000 summary of IRIX XFS features here:
http://www.earthweb.com/dlink.resource-jhtml.72.1282.|repository||networking
|content|article|2000|07|22|ntdanenxfs|ntdanenxfs~xml.0.jhtml?cda=true
XFS appears to be an extraordinary filesystem and has some really impressive
features:
Journaling (of course)
Maximum file size: millions of terabytes.
Maximum file system size: millions of terabytes.
Sub-second filesystem recovery after a crash/outage.
It is a mature filesystem design that has been running on IRIX machines
since 1994. It appears it will be extremely high performance and reliable on
Linux systems.
And best of all: Dynamic allocation of inodes! No more having to set the
cluster size! That is just unbelievably awesome.
Regards,
Adam
PS: We don't need to compare against NTFS. This is in another league
altogether.
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