Linux-Advocacy Digest #878, Volume #31 Wed, 31 Jan 01 21:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Storm Linux & Applixware ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: LinuxWorld Trip Report ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Chad Myers - Microsoft representative at large... (Charlie Ebert)
Re: You can't fry a modern monitor anymore. (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Whistler predictions... (Curtis)
Re: List of companies using Linux (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Who was saying Crays don't run Linux? (Charlie Ebert)
Re: LinuxWorld Trip Report ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Storm Linux & Applixware ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: LOL now the BIND story hits mainstream News (Bob Hauck)
Re: Storm Linux & Applixware (.)
Re: Linux headache (Hans Adams)
MS executives at LinuxWorld Expo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING (Martin Eden)
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) (.)
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does) )
("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING ("Ayende Rahien")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Storm Linux & Applixware
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:05:29 -0500
"." wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "." wrote:
> >>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> > With the demise of stormix, the best Linux distribution I have used
> >> > to date, and what looks like the end for vistasource (applixware) it
> >> > has been a sad few days for me.
> >>
> >> > Now with IBM going to spend $1 billion this year on Linux why don't
> >> > they invest in stormix to keep a great debian based distribution going
> >> > and buy vistasource and then follow sun and make applixware open
> >> > source? Stormix did a fantastic job in making the easiest Linux
> >> > installation and with debian package management, so easy to
> >> > upgrade. As for applixware, it is an excellent office suite with a
> >> > superb macro language, ELF. Here's a chance for IBM to invest a small
> >> > amount of money and have a geat impact of Linux on the desktop.
> >>
> >> But probably not much of a profit. IBM is in the business of making
> >> alot of money; thats why theyve been able to survive longer than almost
> >> any other computer company in existance.
> >>
> >> Their investment in linux is a very big move for them; IBM doesnt throw
> >> that kind of money around lightly. They're in the business of making
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> >> things work very well, and I have high expectations.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> > Actually, this is a rather recent outlook for IBM.
>
> > For the first 40 years of IBM's dataprocessing business (up to, and
> > including the release of AIX), IBM's previous business model was based
> > on the same kind of customer-lock-in strategy that Microsoft is using.
>
> Alright, fair enough. But in IBM's defense, they made a buttload of
> money *without* ever attempting to take over the world. :)
>
> > [Notice the re-formatting of the /etc configuration files in AIX so that
> > administrative scripts written AIX won't work on other platforms]
>
> Now hold on, thats particular to every flavor of unix; there is not
> consistent /etc between UNIXEN, especially not between the sysV
> varieties. HP/UX did the same thing, as did Solaris/SunOS, SCO and
> UNIXware.
really?
/etc/fstab has a format which is UNIVERSAL to everything EXCEPT AIX
When I was at GM-Powertrain (Warren Technical Center), we had admin
scripts that worked on HP, Solaris, and SGI machines. Once
usability was gained on one platform, porting to the other two
was trivial.
Not so for AIX.
>
> AIXes problem is with licensing, IMHO.
>
> > Of course, Born-with-a-golden-spoon-in-his-mouth Gates neglected to
> > notice that IBM's customer-lock-in strategy also had IBM in Federal
> > court so frequently that they were almost a permanent fixture on
> > the dockets.
>
> Heh. I'm glad they found a way to make money without doing that.
Their current CEO basically said,
"Look, shit-heads...even non-technical management can figure out the
customer-lock-in trap. You had BETTER start providing cross-platform
compatability, because nobody is buying your incompatible-with-the-world
crap (like, for instance...IBM's EBCDIC-based everything vs ASCII
everywhere else).
>
> -----.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LinuxWorld Trip Report
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:07:01 -0500
Sponge wrote:
>
> Well I wasted today watching the Geek in his native environment.
> God, the STENCH of Linux was everywhere but I couldn't tell if it was the
> operating system or the geeks, dorks, nerds, propeller-heads that were in mass
> attendance at the Javits Center.
>
> They are going to have to flush the entire place down with bleach after this
> expo leaves and they may never get the stench out.
>
> Don't these Geeks Bathe?
>
> Anyway, nothing new on the Linux front.
> Same old shit Linux.
>
> IBM gave me a gym bag and an umbrella.
>
> Back to better things like Windows, which at least works.
>
> Amy is burning the clothes we wore today because we can't get the stink of Linux
> out of them.
No..that was from your skidmarks.
Learn to wipe.
>
> Sponge
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.mac.advocacy
Subject: Chad Myers - Microsoft representative at large...
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:13:17 GMT
In article <PCUd6.39184$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chad Myers wrote:
>Thank god I have Aaron killfiled.
>
He killfiles anybody who disagree's with him now appearently.
This is *HIS* answer to winning Windows debates.
>The manual does not say that you should reinstall Windows once a year.
>That's an out-and-out lie, but nothing new for the Penguinistas.
>
>-Chad
>
Back into your bunker Adolf.
I'll bring the gas.
Charlie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: You can't fry a modern monitor anymore.
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:15:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
<MASSIVE DELETIA>
You can't fry and LCD and you can't fry a modern monitor anymore.
I'm surprised so many gaucked over this one.
You haven't been able to *FRY* a monitor for over a year now.
The built in control circuitry in modern video cards and monitors
prevent over clocking/syncing the video.
Charlie
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From: Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler predictions...
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:17:58 -0500
Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
«--snip--»
>> Mandrake's hardware detector is stunning in its efficiency. It
>> works the way Microsoft's so-called plug & play systen *should*
>> have worked, but doesn't.
I'm sure you're speaking about a recent version of Mandrake. Try Win2k
and you'll be equally stunned.
--
Curtis
| ,__o
!___ _-\_<, An egotist thinks he's in the groove
<(*)>--(*)/'(*)______________________ when he's in a rut.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ROT13 scrambled)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: List of companies using Linux
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:18:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>Charlie Ebert wrote:
>>
>> In article <H8Kd6.2040$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harvey London wrote:
>> >I seem to remember seeing a list that someone compiled of companies that
>> >are using linux. It may have been in response to an artical on Linux Today
>> >or maybe Slashdot, but I thought it had a link to web site with the list. I
>> >know the list is getting longer everyday and I would like to show it to
>> >some people who still don't believe Linux is being used in the "real world".
>> >
>> >Any help is appreciated,
>> >Harvey
>> >
>>
>> Perhaps we couldn't say this of *America and Canada* but in
>> the rest of the world, europe, South America, Asia, we see
>> growthrates of 120% all the way up to 2200% for Linux.
>>
>> I really doubt there will be a corporate listing @ww anymore.
>>
>> Speaking of corporations, Linux is experiencing some growth
>> here in the US this year.
>
>Toyota is deploying Linux EXCLUSIVELY to it's entire US dealership network
>
Yeah, and home depot also!
The *EXPLOSION* has happened in my neck of the woods.
Linux growth has finally hit here in serious fashion.
I don't know anybody who doesn't have at least one RedHat
server anymore.
Further I know of two medium sized offices which have almost
completely replaced Windows and Novel with RedHat., Workstations
included..... That surprised me.
It shocks me at the *RAPID* deployment going on this quarter
by some companies and the acceptance by others.
This thing is happening now.
Charlie
>
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: Who was saying Crays don't run Linux?
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:19:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>>
>> "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>> >
>> > > Those aren't Cray supercomputers. They're clusters of above average,
>> but
>> > > basically normal systems.
>> >
>> > I ran your post through babelfish, and the result was -
>> >
>> > "If it doesn't run on Windows, it ain't worth squat."
>> >
>> >
>> > FYI, Linux has all but taken over a market where Microsoft doesn't even
>> have a
>> > toehold.
>>
>> Why are you people so incapable of sticking to a topic?
>>
>> The topic, is someone stating that Linux is running on Cray supercomputers
>> based on a link. The real fact is that it's not a Cray supercomputer, it's
>> a Cray cluster of average computers. Yet in your hurry to slam everything,
>
>If you consider machines which use liquid nitrogen to cool the CPU as
>"average"....
>
Well,
When your mainly made of Helium and Methane, wouldn't it
make sense to use liquid nitrogen to cool *YOUR* cpu?
Charlie
>
>> you don't bother to understand what you're commenting on.
>
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LinuxWorld Trip Report
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:16:22 -0500
Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:41:37 -0500, Sponge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Well I wasted today watching the Geek in his native environment.
>
> Hey, Sponge is back. About damn time. I was getting bored with making
> fun of Chad. How's Amy?
Busy cleaning the skidmarks out of sponges underpants.
>
> --
> -| Bob Hauck
> -| To Whom You Are Speaking
> -| http://www.haucks.org/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Storm Linux & Applixware
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:25:37 GMT
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:05:29 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When I was at GM-Powertrain (Warren Technical Center), we had admin
>scripts that worked on HP, Solaris, and SGI machines. Once
>usability was gained on one platform, porting to the other two
>was trivial.
>Not so for AIX.
I'll bet you're the idiot that came up with the idea to put Chevette
Transmissions in Cadillacs and other full sized cars back in the
1980's.
GM got their ass's sued because of that one.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> AIXes problem is with licensing, IMHO.
>>
>> > Of course, Born-with-a-golden-spoon-in-his-mouth Gates neglected to
>> > notice that IBM's customer-lock-in strategy also had IBM in Federal
>> > court so frequently that they were almost a permanent fixture on
>> > the dockets.
>>
>> Heh. I'm glad they found a way to make money without doing that.
>
>Their current CEO basically said,
>"Look, shit-heads...even non-technical management can figure out the
>customer-lock-in trap. You had BETTER start providing cross-platform
>compatability, because nobody is buying your incompatible-with-the-world
>crap (like, for instance...IBM's EBCDIC-based everything vs ASCII
>everywhere else).
>
>>
>> -----.
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
Remove the ++++ to reply.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: LOL now the BIND story hits mainstream News
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:43:42 GMT
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:27:06 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1142000/1142572.stm
>Linux - lol, dead before the general public even knew about it...
Hmm...the article is about BIND, which runs on a lot of operating
systems, not just Linux. In fact, I don't see any mention of Linux in
the article at all.
> sure, big in geek circles, but to joe soap? HA!
Does "joe soap" run a DNS?
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: Storm Linux & Applixware
Date: 1 Feb 2001 01:43:19 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:05:29 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>When I was at GM-Powertrain (Warren Technical Center), we had admin
>>scripts that worked on HP, Solaris, and SGI machines. Once
>>usability was gained on one platform, porting to the other two
>>was trivial.
>>Not so for AIX.
> I'll bet you're the idiot that came up with the idea to put Chevette
> Transmissions in Cadillacs and other full sized cars back in the
> 1980's.
> GM got their ass's sued because of that one.
Watch claire not understand a damn thing that Aaron typed.
=====.
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From: Hans Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux headache
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 03:41:31 +0100
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Hans Adams wrote:
> >
[... deleted ...]
> > Just speaking for myself, not any --- even honest --- company.
> >
> > Dear David,
> >
> > more modern concepts have been thought and implemented.
> >
> > Nearly almost they rely on a micro kernel. This approach allows you to
> > start and stop services, includig such dealing with hardware, without
> > rebooting or even touching kernel address space.
[...facts deleted ...]
>
> Primarily because micro-kernels are counter-productive to performance.
>
> EVERYTHING has trade-offs...including Micro-kernels.
>
To say the least. Your knowlegde is outdated, isn't it?
1) Linus does not like micro kernels, as Prof. Tanenbaum did not act
fair against him, proposing a micro kernel based approach. His own one,
"Minix" was neither a modern operating system nor an innovativ approach
to known problems.... BTW: Who knows Minix anymore?
2) A monolitihic appraoch has disadvantages, too. Though it might be
approbriate for a small system, equipped with a 25MHz iapx 386 processor
and 1 MB RAM, it is not approbriate for any multiprocessor
architecture.
3) According to benchmarks with L4 based Linuxkernels, one has to accept
an increase in computational costs of about 3% to 5% of the kernel on a
single processor. On a multiprocessor figures change, as you may
implement a processor local scheduling and memory management/pager. The
result is, scheduling of processor time and memory for tasks on one
processor do not depend critically from scheduling on another processor
node anymore. They do not even share common data structures.
So you may assign a pager and scheduler to each of your processor
knodes, which may act more or less independently of each other and
asynchronously to each other.
HAving large multithreaded application frameworks, like DBMSs, running
on a multiprocessor system performance will not be limited anymore by
access to critical and shared data structures, like user data and page
tables, which has caused a decay in performance as you add processors on
monolithic OS!
4) Microkernel based systems ease administrational issues like
partitioning of a computer system, distribution of the OS and job
migrationfrom one processing node the next.
Get the remaining from your favourite scholl book, best Hans Adams
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MS executives at LinuxWorld Expo
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:42:30 GMT
Is anybody here going to Linuxworld? Anybody have any idea if the MS
execs are going to try to pull any sort of this FUD nonsense over there?
http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2680345,00.html
(Incidentally, my favourite quote is about how major companies are
rethinking their strategy vis-a-vis Linux, such as Corel. Hm... That
wouldn't have anything to do with that big old infusion of cash into
Corel, thanks to MS, would it?
Naaaah.)
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: Martin Eden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:54:20 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] crossposted the following flamebait:
> Microsoft has done more than any other company to put computers into
> the home and to make them friendly and fun to use.
No question that is true.
>
> Linux on the other hand seems to want to turn the clock back on
> computing and put us back in the early 1990's again.
>
If you say so.
> As an example, take the latest Windows Media Player which is V7.x.
> After delaying my upgrade til MS got the bugs out, which have all been
> fixed, I finally got around to downloading and using it.
>
> Of course it was so simple to download and install because the link is
> right there on the MS home page. Upon starting up the Media Player it
> was obvious that a lot of effort went into the graphics and ergonomics
> of this piece of software. Even with the default skin, it looks smooth
> and crisp and it is very pleasing on the eyes. The visualizations are
> particularly nice, with the kid drawing solo dance being my favorite.
> My kids love this thing and have been trying out the various skins and
> so forth and just plain having a fun time with it.
>
You *must* be kidding.
Windows Media Player 6 was a very sweet app. I loved it. Windows Media
Player 7 is a horribly buggy piece of shit. Just go search on deja in any
of the Windows groups in the era right after it's release. Registries were
corrupted, drive letters changed, *drives were no longer recognized* and
etc. None of this happened to me, though I wish I could reinstall 6.
This is a general problem Microsoft has. Write a great piece of software,
get lots of 4 star ratings on it, improve it until it can not be improved,
then add everything under the sun to it including the kitchen sink...at
which point it becomes a worthless piece of shit. This is what they have
always done. MS Word used to be a sweet piece of work, the best word
processor _by far_ one could get. In 1997 it became nearly unusable. With
the release of Whistler Windows itself will be either unusable or nearly so.
> Now contrast this with Linux XMMS, about the best player (and that's
> all it does) that Linux has to offer.
> Take a good look at how boxy and shitty it looks.
> Look at the skins, most of which are too dark to even read the
> lettering.
>
Ever try Kaiman? Very usable IMO. Go to freshmeat and find one of dozens of
others if XMMS isn't to your liking.
> Boring, not to mention the help system, which you will need because
> this piece of junk is a jumble of controls scattered all over the
> place.
>
> That's of course assuming you can traverse some ftp site and figure
> out what you need to install and run it.
>
> Nope sorry.
>
> This is but a small example, but it clearly shows that Microsoft cares
> about the user and putting some fun in computers.
> Linux cares about.......? Well who even knows....
I realize this is going to be lost on you, but here goes: You don't need to
limit yourself to one or the other. Yes, that's right. You can run
both...even from the same machine. There are BootMagic, VMware and many
other resources available. I do it, and wouldn't change it for the world.
HTH.
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From: . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:58:20 +1300
> If you want to make this test in a meaningful way, just
> switch focus to a 5th window, and then watch the other 4.
> If you're careful not to move the mouse over it, the window
> with focus should not use any cpu time, because nothing is
> happening, and the other 4 should get each one its proper
> share of cpu.
Just add a START COMMAND to the end of the batch file...
Also you could try screwing with the priorities and the START command.
I'd try it myself, but this machine isn't running NT...
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it
does) )
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 03:45:06 +0200
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "The Find command helps you find things" ???
C:\>help find
Searches for a text string in a file or files.
FIND [/V] [/C] [/N] [/I] [/OFF[LINE]] "string" [[drive:][path]filename[
...]]
/V Displays all lines NOT containing the specified string.
/C Displays only the count of lines containing the string.
/N Displays line numbers with the displayed lines.
/I Ignores the case of characters when searching for the string.
/OFF[LINE] Do not skip files with offline attribute set.
"string" Specifies the text string to find.
[drive:][path]filename
Specifies a file or files to search.
If a path is not specified, FIND searches the text typed at the prompt
or piped from another command.
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 03:53:26 +0200
> As an example, take the latest Windows Media Player which is V7.x.
> After delaying my upgrade til MS got the bugs out, which have all been
> fixed, I finally got around to downloading and using it.
Really? On Win2K, stick a Audio CD to the CD drive, if you aren't admin, WMP
will crash.
Solution, run WMP as admin, let it "know" the CD, then close, and start
playing as normal user, now it will work.
I love 2K & I love windows, but please don't make such outragous statements
on such trivial matters.
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