Linux-Advocacy Digest #950, Volume #31 Sun, 4 Feb 01 00:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: My open-source quote ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux Desktop looks better on Win2k :-/ ("Todd")
Re: Linux is a fad? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Add to the microsoft secret code ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Suggestions (SERIOUS ones please) requested ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: More Mandrake Fun :( ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS executives at LinuxWorld Expo ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux Desktop looks better on Win2k :-/ ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux Desktop looks better on Win2k :-/ (J Sloan)
Re: Best way to learn Linux? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My open-source quote
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:14:44 -0500
Dan Hinojosa wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > Only if your defintion of "comfortable" includes an un-removable anal-probe
> > with optional testicle-squeezer-and-perforator.
>
> What are trying to do and prove with stuff like that?
Simply noting that your definition of "comfortable" seems to be rather
at-odds
with the rest of the English-speaking people on the planet.
Linux has MORE documentation than ANY other software project out there.
>
> >
> >
> > > --Dan Hinojosa, Java Developer
> >
> > So, what Dan is saying, is that, if he wrote something, and released
> > it under GPL or something similar, that he would do a 3rd-rate job on
> > it.
>
> Why would I? My name needs to be synonymous with good quality, as other
> programmers should feel. The problem with large GPL projects is that egos
> clash, and since there is not much (or no) money involved things that are
> important and necessary get placed on the backburner, while the frilly things
> gets done first.
As if egos aren't a factor in closed-source projects????
At least with the open-source solution, those who clash are free to go
their own ways, and push their idea to completion, and let the users
decide which they like better.
>
> >
> >
> > Sounds like a problem with your own personal standards Dan.
>
> What are you talking about,? It is just a quote. Don't get too personal, it's
And YOU were quoting it....which leads anyone to the conclusion that you
feel that it personally represents YOUR ...feelings...on the subject.
> not like I commented about your family, or commented about your personal
> hygiene. Sheesh.
No...you were unconsciously commenting about YOURSELF.
>
> >
> >
> > Reminds me of the time the Chicago police department took a bunch of
> > reporters to the "reaction" range. The reporters who had a record of
> > writing the most anti-gun and anti-police articles coincided quite well
> > with the reporters who had a lot of "shot bystander and/or cop" shots.
> >
> > Inother words...many times, when someone complains about someone else's
> > non-existance failings...what they are REALLY doing is complaining about
> > their own failings.
> >
> > With the Chicago journalists...it was their OWN inability to use firearms
> > responsibly...with YOU, it's your OWN reluctance to write quality code
> > without
> > some manager breathing down your neck making sure you actually do some
> > error checking and recovery.
>
> Good story, but no, I don't feel that way. You don't know me really, so let me
> clear the air. I am developer with the Java programming langauge. It has the
> best of both worlds, one is that it has the *free* feel to it. It also is
> multiplatform. The other thing is that Sun has a vested interest in keeping it
> under control without renegade developers changing standard items just because
> they thinks it's cool (although, networking sometimes falls prey to that).
>
> I am all for GPL. Currently, I am using jBoss which is an open-source Java
> Application Server. jBoss to me beats the living snot out of BEA (the defacto
> leader) as far as performance. The problem is the documentation. As with most
> GPL software, much of it is not there, and the stuff that is there is written
> so cryptic it is hard to get things going.
>
> I have used *x operating systems, and I love them. Problem is that I can never
> install them.
Try taking removing your head from your rectum, and it might go better.
> I spend more time reading the multiple HOW-TOs because my video
> doesn't work that it has become more of a hassle.
And your fingers smell funny every time you go to the bathroom and
wipe without toilet paper....
>
> That is why my quote has some fair meaning, and some of the members got the
> point when they said they can put their own customizable seat. I could easily
> have said that open-source is like a skateboard but I didn't. I hold both of
> their performances equal, but you have to admit that open-source doesn't have
> much offer as far as ease of use.
If you're having problems installing Linux, then I REALLY would not want
to be paying you to develop ANYTHING ...java, or otherwise.
>
> Dan Hinojosa
> Java Zealot
...and, based on your own touching biography, something of an idiot.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Desktop looks better on Win2k :-/
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:15:07 +0800
"Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 18:55:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie
> > Ebert) wrote:
> >
> > Fonts under Linux are nasty looking compared to Windows and until the
> > anti-aliasing gets incorporated into XFree they will continue to look
> > that way.
> >
> > They don't have a "Font-Deuglification Hwo-To" for nothing Charlie.
> >
>
> Windows screen fonts do look better. The main reason for this is that
> both truetype fonts and the Windows font rasteriser are optimised for
> better screen performance.
>
> Linux (and UN*X in general) grew up with Type I fonts (*), which are
> hinted in favour of the hardcopy producing end. It's also probably
> related to X's distributed model: there really is no way of predicting
> on what kind of monitor the fonts will end up, so better play it safe
> and go for the lowest common denominator.
>
> If it is important to the user, there are ways to crank up linux
> screen fonts to (almost) the level of Windows. IIRC, Rod Smith has a
> couple of interesting web sites on that subject (I don't have the URLs
> here, but a Google search on his name should most likely turn them
> up).
>
> So in the end it boils down to a strategic decision: better looking
> screen or better looking printouts. As ever, take your pick and live
> long and prosper with it.
Actually, no.
Windows has built in fonts for printing, as well as the screen. When
printing, Windows uses the 'print' fonts... so you still get superior
printouts as well.
-Todd
> Regards,
>
>
> Karel Jansens
>
> (*) OK, so there are other font rasterisers for the UN*Xen, but you
> get the point.
>
> I hope.
>
>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is a fad?
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:31:05 -0500
"--==<( Jeepster )>==--" wrote:
>
> Oh my ribs, they are sore after both
>
> a) laughing
>
> b) being poked by youir razor sharp funny finger.
>
> I have tried linux, mandrake, redhat, storm, turbo and even yellow dog on
> machine i borrowed for a month.
>
> Dont like them...sorry, maybe its personal taste, but i'd rather stay with
> windows 2000 where i can
>
> a) buy software off the shelves
Must....open....wallet.....remove.....hard-earned....dollars...
...cannot.....use....free...software.....
>
> b) play the latest games
>
Which obviously is an incredible argument for keeping LoseDOS
around the office.
> c) use the latest hardware (do the words USB still strike fear into your
> heart?...it should, as far as I know only mice & keyboards are
> supported....oh dear)
LoseDOS can't even take full advantage of established hardware (like SCSI
disks).
>
> d) not worry that the libraries will get broken if i had to install beta
> test software.
That's a Windows-only problem.
Linux and Unix libraries are properly versioned.
DLL Hell is...limited to Microsoft DLL's.
>
> e) use a good browser rather than the beta offerings or the half finished
> offerings given to linux users. LOL - case in point Netscape 4.x/6 and
> Konqueror..... NOW thats BAD.
IE is just as shitty as Netscape....
>
> f) worry about getting the latest Kernel and then buggering it all up
> because the kernel needs to be patched to enable sound, PPP etc etc rah rah
> rah
At least
1) you have the *OPTION* (note, it is *not* a requirement)
and
2) it's FREE (unlike Windows "upgrades" (i.e. replace one set of
cheap hacks with another set of cheap hacks))
>
> g) I can use standard applications at home and then go into any office and
> hey, the same things...wow......
>
"standard" relying upon Microsoft circular-definitions (tm).
Word is standard becuase it's widely-used
it's Widely-used because it's standard.
(actually, it's widely-used because Microsoft is heavily into using
extortion as a marketing technique--just like Al Capone).
> h) avoid arcane command line crap....i mean, who the hell wants to go
> through an entire user manual to get the sound card to initialise and then
> find it wont ?
How about the people who have to administrate all that crap.
Sure, the average office-slut-receptionist doesn't give a damn
about CLI...but how about the tech who has to fix things when
she fucks it up beyond recognition...
Remember, every time you take a tool away from the SUPPORT PEOPLE,
the users are the one who pay the costs.
>
> i) who would want to sacrifice a Windows/Windows solution for a
> Linux/Windows integrated solution until there is some more solid, documented
> applications and cases that have already tried it and detailed the pros and
> cons? Linux has a long way to go before stepping up to the corporate
> plate...
>
> Chew on that Rabid LINsUX user....
I *eat* things scarier than you for breakfast.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Add to the microsoft secret code
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:32:09 -0500
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sat, 03 Feb 2001 08:04:33 -0500
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >pip wrote:
> >>
> >> gswork wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On a lighter note, In comp.programming someone called fhanna
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted a 'microsoft secret code' spoof to which I
> >> > added a bit. I searched for it on this NG and didnt find it so it
> >> > *might* be new to some of you.
> >> > [snip]
> >>
> >> Doh!,
> >>
> >> You forgot to add unused references, structures, bitmaps and
> >> other unused resources to your vc++ project build settings.
> >> Also you need include random invalid page faults and make sure
> >> your timer is an int.
> >
> >typedef picoseconds short int;
>
> Pedant C point: this is flipped; this should be
>
> typedef short int picoseconds;
it's been a long time since I've done C development (like 10 years)
>
> :-)
>
> >
> >picoseconds timer;
> >
>
> [.sigsnip]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191 1d:21h:55m actually running Linux.
> No electrons were harmed during this message.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suggestions (SERIOUS ones please) requested
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:33:06 -0500
Mark Styles wrote:
>
> On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 04:56:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 23:47:41 -0500, Mark Styles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >>You seem to think it's a bad thing to read documentation and learn
> >>about what you're using, I just hope you never take up any safety
> >>critical occupations or hobbies. If you were a pilot I don't think I'd
> >>want to fly with you.
> >
> >If I was flying a plane no, but in using a pc I prefer to concentrate
> >on applications instead of spending weeks trying to figure out what
> >should be easy.
>
> Weeks? Either you exaggerate or you're just a bit dim.
>
> I recommend reading Asimov's Foundation books for a glimpse of what
> could happen if everyone thinks "I don't need to understand how it
> works to use it"
Hell, all you need to do is see a woman on the side of the road
with a flat tire...stranded because she doesn't even know how to
operate a simple car jack.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More Mandrake Fun :(
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:41:45 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 17:46:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie
> Ebert) wrote:
>
> >
> >Notice how he immediately gave preference to Mandrake over Suse
> >as he liked the install.
> >
> >That's because Windows users often dump their OS during crashes
> >and are forced to re-install Windows.
>
> No, it's because an install is just a nasty thing that has to be done
> in order to use the computer.
ONLY ONCE! (as long as it's not a Microshaft product).
Since you already *HAD* an installed system, there was absolutely ZERO
reason for you to install, other than to satisfy the LoseDOSer's
re-install-fetish.
> If the OS is impossible to install the computer will never get the
> chance to run applications.
Well duh....and, you had SuSE installed, and were running applications.
So, like, do you have a point?
> Like Linsux for example.
You are already on record as having successfully installed SUSE...
before you successfully installed Mandreke
>
> >So the install is a KEY point for the Wintroll. The better
> >the install, the better the OS.
>
> If it can't be easily installed, it will never get used.
>
What part of "YOU ALREADY HAD SuSE INSTALLED" do you not understand?
> >Notice how Suse worked for him, but since the install didn't
> >thrill him, he dropped it. Now he's going to try it again
> >and once again, Mandrake will have an even better installer
> >with their next version and he will be back to Mandrake again.
>
> No. Mandrake had kde-2, the newer kernel amongst other things all in
> one box.
So, download the RPM and use rpm to install it...DORKUS
> SuSE didn't and unlike YOU I don't feel like building an operating
> system.
You didn't have to "rebuild" anything. All you had to do was
download ONE file, and use the pointy-clicky software install tool
>
> >Wintrolls are polorized to how Windows works.
> >Installation in Windows is extremely important as they know
> >they have to do it several times during the life of their
> >computer if they use Windows.
>
> We run applications, not compile kernels.
>
And your point is?
> >But, if this Wintroll could install Debian he would and he
> >could experience an OS which wouldn't trash out and need
> >re-installing.
>
> If Debian was up to date with the rest of the Linux world maybe more
> people would run it.
It is, dork
>
> >Suse was probably doing that for him already. Notice he
> >actually said Suse didn't give me that much trouble. YET,
> >he dumped Suse immediately for the Mandrake OS because
> >the install was better for him.
>
> You're repeating yourself.
> Medication Charlie, you know you are not supposed to miss a dosage.
>
Flatfish must be a schizophrenic with at least one personality named
Charlie.
[*NOT* to be confused with Charlie Ebert]
> >Wintrolls don't care about quality nor security but they
> >do care about superior install abilities.
>
> See above.
>
> >This is what's important to the Wintroll.
>
> Medication Charlie. It's time to take your pills.
Got schizophrenia?
> >Charlie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> Remove the ++++ to reply.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS executives at LinuxWorld Expo
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:43:14 -0500
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <95aeu4$h7f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >Is anybody here going to Linuxworld? Anybody have any idea if the MS
> >execs are going to try to pull any sort of this FUD nonsense over there?
> >
> >http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2680345,00.html
>
> "While we are threatened by the Linux business model, where companies give
> away free software, we are not at all worried about that operating system
> from a technological standpoint," Miller told eWEEK before heading off to
> the conference. "There are no earth-shattering technological innovations in
> Linux -- actually, there's a lot less than can be found in the Windows and
> Unix platforms."
>
> Interesting.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
you misspelled "Delusional"
> --
> Pete Goodwin
> ---
> Why don't I use Linux?
> Waiting for Borland to release Delphi.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Desktop looks better on Win2k :-/
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:49:44 -0500
James Bond wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 03 Feb 2001 18:34:55 +0200, "James Bond"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>I am now running my second box with LM7.2 remotely from my Win2k box.
> >>Using X-WinPro (now WinaXe) I get a much improved desktop - fonts
> >>overall just look better. And no more time wasted forever tweaking
> >>fonts.
> >>
> >>James :-)
> >
> >
> > This is interesting. How does it work and what does it do? Easy to set
> > up?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Flatfish Why do they call it a flatfish? Remove the ++++ to reply.
>
> Go to Tucows and download the trial version of winaXe. It installs an
> X-server on Win2k. Run winaXe setup, then configuration, and connect to
> your Linux box using query mode of XDMCP. You can use a static IP address
> in Linux but if you want to use Win2k internet connection sharing, you
> will need to use dhcp in Linux (use ifconfig to get the dynamic ip
> address). My only problem has been that Norton Personal Firewall seems to
> interfere with the Xserver connection. So I turn it off whilst accessing
> my Linux box.
How much did you $$$PAY$$$ for your firewall?
Mine was free (ipchains).
>
> James
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Desktop looks better on Win2k :-/
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 04:52:39 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> How much did you $$$PAY$$$ for your firewall?
>
> Mine was free (ipchains).
Yep, mine was free too (iptables)
jjs
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best way to learn Linux?
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:59:02 -0500
Salvador Peralta wrote:
>
> Les Mikesell quoth:
>
> > Oh - you mean all those people with 15 years experience with Windows
> > 2000 shouldn't bother learning a unix-like OS too?
>
> lol...in another 15 years, they will have gone through at least 40
> marketing related os name changes, and they will tweak the system just
> enough to render the $4000 certification that you got last year on the
> previous version of the os, worthless.
>
> The VALUE of an inexpensive *nixen is much greater than its cost in
> dollars ( or euro :). 10 years ago, unless you were in college or in a
> corporation, you couldn't even get a whiff of a unix machine. Now you
> can have one with all the bells and whistles for nothing more than the
> cost of pc hardware.
Damn straight.
>
> --
>
> Salvador Peralta -o)
> Programmer/Analyst, Webmaster / \
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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