Linux-Advocacy Digest #752, Volume #32 Sun, 11 Mar 01 01:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: What is user friendly? (Bloody Viking)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What is user friendly? (Brock Hannibal)
Re: Microsoft's .NET Vision ("Adam Warner")
Re: What Linux MUST DO! - Comments anyone? (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Re: What is user friendly? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What is user friendly? (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: 11 Mar 2001 05:06:30 GMT
Anonymous ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: no, personal experience.
: a generally impassable learning curve = user hostile.
: i was using windows to get work done ten minutes after installation.
: u can't touch this
This is a good question indeed. There is no really "intuitive" computer
anything, about like the case of in the old days people learning to drive a
car. What happened with cars is a de facto standard for the controls of a car
for its pilot. All carmakers accepted the de facto standard as the default,
and it was in part why the Automatic Tranny was invented.
As far as cars, some people are not Stick-Shift compatible. But, we are
talking OSes instead of cars. Some OSes like UNIX or any variation will have a
large learning curve. That is also a large problem with learning C.
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:07:09 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Steve Mading wrote:
> :>
> :> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>
> :> : Correlation does not imply causation.
> :>
> :> : However, Correlation which coresponds with reverse correlation
> :> : usually does imply causation one way or the other.
> :>
> :> Not necessarily. It also leaves open the possiblity of an un-examined
>
> : I notice how you explicitly SNIPPED the counter-example to my
> : own argument which *I* provided.
>
> : Why did you do that, Steve?
>
> Why the hell did you present an argument you already had
> counterexamples to?
Did I say that there are *NO* exceptions to the rule?
No...I did not. I stated that, generally, it holds true, and then
gave a counter-example to demonstrate that I realize that it doesn't
hold true 100% of the time.
Is any of this getting through to you?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:12:02 -0500
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Steve Mading
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on 9 Mar 2001 00:40:57 GMT
> <9898qp$6dm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >In comp.os.linux.advocacy Interconnect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >: We would only read books by
> >: Authors with the highest IQ. We would only consume entertainment produced
> >: by Artists with the highest IQ etc..
> >
> >Not necessarily. Stupidity in and of itself can be highly
> >entertaining to watch. Ever seen Plan 9 From Outer Space?
>
> I might have picked the Three Stooges, myself. :-) Of course,
> that's only an appearance of stupidity; apparently, Moe, Larry,
> Curly, Shemp, and Curly Joe had to work with quite a bit of precision
> to get the effect of an eyepoke down properly without injury, among
> their many stunts. (Slapstick comedy didn't start with them, either.
> There's Charlie Chaplin as well; judging from his stunts, he needed
> to do some precision as well. Also, the Keystone Kops come to mind.)
>
> But yes, I've seen Plan 9. It was terrible. The voiceover was
> absolutely awful, the sets were -- well, was there more than one?
> I think there was one car in the entire movie and one tree with leaves
> (they might have had two without leaves) -- and the only good
> thing I remember about it was that it was relatively short, about
> 1 hour or so in length (IMDB says 78 or 79 minutes, so obviously my
> memory's off by a bit). It just *seems* longer.
>
> :-)
>
> Mind you, Prince of Space is up there. "Your weapons are useless
> against me!" Did anyone else think that the badguy's ship needed
> a less snazzy paint job? It looked a bit like a narwhal with an
> inflamed tooth. The badguy's chicken laugh was interesting, too.
>
> And then there was Attack of the the Eye Creatures (no, that's not
> a misprint; some copies did have the double "the" in the title,
> apparently!). And I even have a copy of "Killer Klowns from Outer Space"
> (MST3k'ed) -- why anyone would even want to make a movie about such a
> subject boggles the mind. I have another one with four gorgeous
> black-robed women from outer space whose title escapes me (for that
> matter, so does the video tape; I have a bad habit of not labeling them),
> and I remember seeing a video tape for "Three Killer Bimboes"
> in a store once; the entire idea strikes me as just silly. (That one
> might have been a bad Charlie's Angels remake, but I can't say.
> Of course, someone actually did make a Charlie's Angels movie recently,
> so go figure...maybe we just like figures...)
>
> Godzilla movies are pretty bad, too -- the whole notion of a monster
> saving the city from another monster is a little weird. For that
> matter, the whole notion of a monster is a little weird; Nellie would
> starve in Loch Ness (not enough fish), for example.
>
> OK, enough bad movies.
>
> A comment here on IQ. IQ is to me a bit like slicing a human body
> widthwise (metaphorically speaking, of course, or using a CATscan)
> and then trying to measure the size of one's heart, brain, liver,
> and kidneys, based on that one slice. I'm not sure that it can measure
> all complexities of one's persona. It gets worse when one factors
> in cultural biases into the mix -- although I can't think of any offhand,
> I suspect that there might be some.
>
You really have no idea of what IQ tests are designed to measure,
and conversely, what IQ tests are designed to NOT measure.
> This notion can also apply to operating systems/environments, of course.
> How does one determine which one is "best" for him? Answer: by doing
> his own homework. One can pontificate at length as to the reliabilty
> of Linux versus NT, or the functionality of NT versus Linux (note that
> Linux is getting more and more functionality all the time, though),
> or the scalability of either solution versus something like Solaris,
> IBM mainframes, or high-performance database retrieval vendors such as
> Tandems -- but in the end, it all boils down to whether the picked
> solution can do the job required.
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random bad movie here -- too bad MST3K is no more
> EAC code #191 33d:02h:21m actually running Linux.
> The US gov't spends about $54,000/second. I wish I could.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:10:03 -0800
From: Brock Hannibal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Anonymous wrote:
>
> aaron wrote:
> > Anonymous wrote:
> > >
> > > aaron wrote:
> > > > Anonymous wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > aaron wrote:
> > > > > > If you were to follow around one IQ-100 person all day, you would
> > > > > > be appalled by the vast number of incredibly stupid things they do
> > > > > > in the course of a day, and how many completely fucking obvious
> > > > > > connections they miss, how many winning opportunities they pass
> > > > > > up (because they either don't understand them, or they fail to
> > > > > > even recognize that the opportunity exists in the first place).
> > > > >
> > > > > now you know why i usually don't read your messages
> > > > > jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> > > > >
> > > > > p.s. windows is a pretty cool operating system
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Only in comparison to DOS.
> > > >
> > > > Compared to anything else, Windows is comparable to a Formula-1 body
> > > > slapped on top of a Ford Pinto with a sand-injection oil system
> > > > and water-contaminated brake-lines.
> > >
> > > amiga: dead
> > > beos: fringe
> > > mac: fringe
> > > os2: dead
> > > next: dead
> > > unix: user hostile
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Microsoft propaganda.
>
> no, personal experience.
> a generally impassable learning curve = user hostile.
> i was using windows to get work done ten minutes after installation.
> u can't touch this
>
> > Unix has had fully functional GUI's since the mid 1980's.
>
> xwindows?
> nerdo please...
>
> > Not only that, but Unix is very very very consistant; in contrast, DOS and Windows
> > both have lots of arbitrary rules with even more exceptions.
>
> why, if that is the case, are they so much easier to use?
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
Windows is only easier to use for a certain class of tasks, mostly
rather mundane ones. DOS was no easier to use than Unix. Once a
certain subset of Unix commands are learned it becomes very easy to
use, but you're right about the steep learning curve. Power comes
with a price, always. Oh, and word processors, spreadsheets, email
and so forth running under Unix can have the identical GUI based
interfaces as Windows, if one wishes. The easiest and most intuitive
Gui-based operating system is MacOs, in my opinion, but once again
it's not suitable for real scientific and engineering work because
of the lack of powerful applications programs.
--
Brock
"Put a $20 gold piece on my watch chain so the boys'll know I died
standin' pat"
------------------------------
From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft's .NET Vision
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:17:34 +1300
Hey "Bloody Viking",
> Adam Warner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > I worry for people wanting to reinstall Office in five or ten years
> > time, when Microsoft could possibly tell them "I'm sorry, your product
> > is no longer supported."
>
> That is yet another reason to reject .NET or the like and go to
> freeware. That case as you describe means that .NET sodtware has an
> expiry date as set by the maker. Totally sickening.
All I said was "could possibly", i.e. I can envision a scenario where
product activation is part of the mix of services that Microsoft provides
and that service provision could expire on older .NET products. I'm not
saying this will happen. Another possible scenario: Microsoft could
provide a patch for older/unsupported products that made them exempt from
product activation.
> I guess I was ahead of my time back in 1994 when I lit off my first
> UNIX.... err.... I mean Linux machine.
You certainly were. I only discovered GNU/Linux at Redhat 5.2/Debian 2.0.
By the way, I've just realised that the current loophole in Microsoft's
product activation--where product keys for large organisations don't
require the product to be activated, and those keys may leak out--should
be able to be phased out by Microsoft when the .NET infrastructure is in
place (since intellectual property protection is at the heart of
Microsoft's .NET vision, a .NET-aware OS should be capable of seemlessly
notifying a company's .NET license database when a new OS has been
installed, and generating its own product key using particular hardware
characteristics).
Regards,
Adam
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marada C. Shradrakaii)
Date: 11 Mar 2001 05:18:36 GMT
Subject: Re: What Linux MUST DO! - Comments anyone?
>easy install
>reliable booting
WRONG answer.
My Win98SE box wouldn't always boot up-- hanging perhaps 1 in 5 times before
the icons came up. I came across the fix on a FAQ site for another board than
the one I used.
I've also seen a machine that hangs for some 20 minutes with no indication of
why before starting 98 setup.
--
Marada Coeurfuege Shra'drakaii
Colony name not needed in address.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:24:23 -0500
Anonymous wrote:
>
> aaron wrote:
> > Anonymous wrote:
> > >
> > > aaron wrote:
> > > > Anonymous wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > aaron wrote:
> > > > > > If you were to follow around one IQ-100 person all day, you would
> > > > > > be appalled by the vast number of incredibly stupid things they do
> > > > > > in the course of a day, and how many completely fucking obvious
> > > > > > connections they miss, how many winning opportunities they pass
> > > > > > up (because they either don't understand them, or they fail to
> > > > > > even recognize that the opportunity exists in the first place).
> > > > >
> > > > > now you know why i usually don't read your messages
> > > > > jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> > > > >
> > > > > p.s. windows is a pretty cool operating system
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Only in comparison to DOS.
> > > >
> > > > Compared to anything else, Windows is comparable to a Formula-1 body
> > > > slapped on top of a Ford Pinto with a sand-injection oil system
> > > > and water-contaminated brake-lines.
> > >
> > > amiga: dead
> > > beos: fringe
> > > mac: fringe
> > > os2: dead
> > > next: dead
> > > unix: user hostile
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Microsoft propaganda.
>
> no, personal experience.
> a generally impassable learning curve = user hostile.
> i was using windows to get work done ten minutes after installation.
> u can't touch this
Obviously, you were not working on a fully configured Unix system.
Clue for the clueless: most of the GUI features you see in modern
M$ Windows systems were implemented on Unix systems almost a decade ago.
>
> > Unix has had fully functional GUI's since the mid 1980's.
>
> xwindows?
> nerdo please...
xwindows is NOT a gui, jackie, merely a windowing protocol.
Yes, the x-windows based gui's that were available in 1988 were
fairly primative...however, by the early 1990's, they were VERY
much more sophisticated.
Such as multiple desktops (still not implemented in Windows), implemented in
the CDE GUI in the early 1990's, and is standard in ALL modern Unix GUI's.
icons for frequently used tools on a task bar (not until Windows98, implemented
in CDE in the early 1990s', and is standard in ALL modern Unix GUI's.
symbolic links....implemented in Windows98....implemented in Unix in the
early 1970's.
Pre-emptive multi-tasking. Implemented by Microsoft in windows 1995....implemented
in Unix in 1969.
Need I go on...
KDE, Gnome, fvwm, etc. etc., are all based on the xwindows
>
> > Not only that, but Unix is very very very consistant; in contrast, DOS and Windows
> > both have lots of arbitrary rules with even more exceptions.
>
> why, if that is the case, are they so much easier to use?
Probably because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:26:14 -0500
Anonymous wrote:
>
> aaron wrote:
> > Anonymous wrote:
> > >
> > > aaron wrote:
> > > > Anonymous wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > aaron wrote:
> > > > > > If you were to follow around one IQ-100 person all day, you would
> > > > > > be appalled by the vast number of incredibly stupid things they do
> > > > > > in the course of a day, and how many completely fucking obvious
> > > > > > connections they miss, how many winning opportunities they pass
> > > > > > up (because they either don't understand them, or they fail to
> > > > > > even recognize that the opportunity exists in the first place).
> > > > >
> > > > > now you know why i usually don't read your messages
> > > >
> > > > ....must be why you read this one.....
> > >
> > > what's your iq?
> >
> >
> > IQ score? I have no clue. What I do know is that throughout my entire
> > scholastic career, I consistantly scored at or above the 98th percentile,
> > and as high as the top 0.5 percentile on a test with 0.5 percentile accuracy.
> >
> >
> > According to http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/combnorm.html
> >
> > This translates to a 133 (for the 98th percentile score) to
> > 141+ (for the "top 0.5 percentile" score.
> >
> > However, these tests were not specifically constructed for
> > differentiating at the extreme upper end, so precision
> > of these scores are unreliable..all they can really say is
> > "some place above X, which is the upper limit of accurate
> > assessment for this test".
>
> see also: mensa
>
> i rest my case
I've never really cared.
In fact, before you asked that question, I had never even
attempted to find a correlation between my standardized test
scores and an IQ score.
Frankly, it really doesn't interest me very much. Finding an
exact number won't change my life in the slightest.
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:28:21 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Anonymous ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : no, personal experience.
> : a generally impassable learning curve = user hostile.
> : i was using windows to get work done ten minutes after installation.
> : u can't touch this
>
> This is a good question indeed. There is no really "intuitive" computer
> anything, about like the case of in the old days people learning to drive a
> car. What happened with cars is a de facto standard for the controls of a car
> for its pilot. All carmakers accepted the de facto standard as the default,
> and it was in part why the Automatic Tranny was invented.
>
> As far as cars, some people are not Stick-Shift compatible. But, we are
> talking OSes instead of cars. Some OSes like UNIX or any variation will have a
> large learning curve. That is also a large problem with learning C.
>
You obviously haven't worked on any HP, Sun, or SGI machines with
version 1990 or later versions of Unix.
The learning curve for these systems is SHALLOWER than windows.
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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