Linux-Advocacy Digest #868, Volume #32 Sun, 18 Mar 01 15:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: What is user friendly? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What is user friendly? (Anonymous)
Re: What is user friendly? (GreyCloud)
Re: What is user friendly? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:48:34 -0500
Anonymous wrote:
>
> Michael Wieserner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >no, personal experience.
> > >a generally impassable learning curve = user hostile.
> > >i was using windows to get work done ten minutes after installation.
> > >u can't touch this
> >
> > Liar!
>
> how wude!
> but i'll grant that in terms of real work it did take another ten minutes
> or so to get office installed.
> of course i bought the fastest machine i could so that probably has
> an impact on the install speed. ymmv
>
> > The last Linux distribution i installed was RedHat 7.0. I installed
> > it in 45 minutes and after that i had only few things to configure and 15
> > minutes took me for a kernel recompile and configuration.
>
> how many hours of study did it take you to get to the point where you
> understood this stuff well enough to manage that?
Zero. There are GUI-based configuration tools to do all of that.
By the way, the kernal recompile is something you do if you want a
kernal that is custom-compiled for your particular processor, to get
better performance.
Considering that Windows9x, Windows NT (Neutered Technology), and
Windows2000 are all compiled for 80386 or VERY early Pentium processors
(Windows 2000 only)....I fail to see the disadvantage of being
ALLOWED to do something that is, quite frankly, not even an option
on the Mafia$oft platforms.
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:49:34 -0500
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 02:06:22 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >"CR Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> > The real truth is that Germany is still pissed that MS included
> > >Diskeeper
> > >> > technology whos CEO is a scientologist.
> > >> Already forgotten the "NSAKEY" backdoor? That was the "backup" key that
> > >> MS put in the OS in case they (they being MS) "forgot" the primary key
> > >> and needed to update your software.
> > >
> > >That would be the backdoor that one of the top cryptologists in the world
> > >says he doesn't believe exists.
> > >
> > >Bruce Schneier, author of Applied Cryptography and considered a formemost
> > >expert in cryptogrophy chimed in on the entire NSAKEY incident saying that
> > >the paranoia mongers arguments simply didn't make sense.
> > >
> > >http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-9909.html#NSAKeyinMicrosoftCryptoAPI
> > >
> >
> > Thanks Erik. Your counterpane link has provided another two great reasons
> > for a foreign agency to make a decision to purge all Microsoft OSs from their
> > machines:
> >
> > Here's a snip from the Schneier link:
> >
> > First, if the NSA wanted to compromise Microsoft's Crypto API, it would be
> > much easier to either 1) convince MS to tell them the secret key for MS's
> > signature key, 2) get MS to sign an NSA-compromised module, or 3) install
> > a module other than Crypto API to break the encryption (no other modules
> > need signatures). It's always easier to break good encryption by attacking
> > the random number generator than it is to brute-force the key.
> >
> > Second, NSA doesn't need a key to compromise security in Windows. Programs
> > like Back Orifice can do it without any keys. Attacking the Crypto API still
> > requires that the victim run an executable (even a Word macro) on his
> computer.
> > If you can convince a victim to run an untrusted macro, there are a zillion
> > smarter ways to compromise security.
> >
>
> By this logic, they shouldn't use any OS, because all OSes are
> subject to compromise if a trusted user runs a trojan application.
> Especially Linux...
>
The difference is, in Mafia$soft land, EVERY user is given the
power of a trusted user.
> -C
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 13:51:13 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Well, they are claiming ther are backdoors without any real evidence.
> That
> > > means they're believing what they hear, rather than what they know to be
> > > fact.
> >
> > How can one be sure with closed source software? One has to depend on
> various
> > news reports, because one can not inspect the source.
>
> You've never heard of a disassembler? It's not uncommon for people to
> disassemble huge parts of OS's to prove such things. The license agreement
> isn't valid if it's used to cover up illegal behavior, so the no-disassembly
> clause would not be an issue.
The Microsoft EULA specifically prohibits this.
So, you are suggesting that the only way to trust a Microsoft system
is to violate your license agreement.
Thank you for that telling admission, dumbfuck.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:54:44 -0700
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
LShaping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >aaron wrote:
> >> Anonymous wrote:
> >> >
> >> > aaron wrote:
> >> > > Anonymous wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > aaron wrote:
> >> > > > > If you were to follow around one IQ-100 person all day, you would
> >> > > > > be appalled by the vast number of incredibly stupid things they do
> >> > > > > in the course of a day, and how many completely fucking obvious
> >> > > > > connections they miss, how many winning opportunities they pass
> >> > > > > up (because they either don't understand them, or they fail to
> >> > > > > even recognize that the opportunity exists in the first place).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > now you know why i usually don't read your messages
> >> > > > jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> >> > > >
> >> > > > p.s. windows is a pretty cool operating system
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Only in comparison to DOS.
> >> > >
> >> > > Compared to anything else, Windows is comparable to a Formula-1 body
> >> > > slapped on top of a Ford Pinto with a sand-injection oil system
> >> > > and water-contaminated brake-lines.
> >> >
> >> > amiga: dead
> >> > beos: fringe
> >> > mac: fringe
> >> > os2: dead
> >> > next: dead
> >> > unix: user hostile
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> Microsoft propaganda.
> >
> >no, personal experience.
> >a generally impassable learning curve = user hostile.
> >i was using windows to get work done ten minutes after installation.
> >u can't touch this
>
> Configuring Windows is my forte. I have been installing/reinstalling
> Windows Millennium for the last three days. I expect to have a well
> done installation within a week. I guess my idea of "installation" is
> different than most folks. Mine has to look good and be as efficient
> as possible (making Windows more nearly efficient is a Herculean
> task).
define efficient. i define efficient as plug and play. if it ain't fast
enough for what i want to do i just buy a faster machine.
> Being done in ten minutes is unbelievable.
installers are cool.
i think it took another ten minutes to get office up and running.
connecting to the internet was trickier. that took about a half an hour
between typing the configuration stuff (news server, mail server, etc) and
making the obligatory phone call to my perverted isp to resolve a few
issues on thier end.
adding new peripherals is pretty simple too. what with windows being
damn near universally supported and all.
i really don't see what your beef is.
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 11:06:03 -0800
Anonymous wrote:
>
> LShaping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >aaron wrote:
> > >> Anonymous wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > aaron wrote:
> > >> > > Anonymous wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > aaron wrote:
> > >> > > > > If you were to follow around one IQ-100 person all day, you would
> > >> > > > > be appalled by the vast number of incredibly stupid things they do
> > >> > > > > in the course of a day, and how many completely fucking obvious
> > >> > > > > connections they miss, how many winning opportunities they pass
> > >> > > > > up (because they either don't understand them, or they fail to
> > >> > > > > even recognize that the opportunity exists in the first place).
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > now you know why i usually don't read your messages
> > >> > > > jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > p.s. windows is a pretty cool operating system
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Only in comparison to DOS.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Compared to anything else, Windows is comparable to a Formula-1 body
> > >> > > slapped on top of a Ford Pinto with a sand-injection oil system
> > >> > > and water-contaminated brake-lines.
> > >> >
> > >> > amiga: dead
> > >> > beos: fringe
> > >> > mac: fringe
> > >> > os2: dead
> > >> > next: dead
> > >> > unix: user hostile
> > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >> Microsoft propaganda.
> > >
> > >no, personal experience.
> > >a generally impassable learning curve = user hostile.
> > >i was using windows to get work done ten minutes after installation.
> > >u can't touch this
> >
> > Configuring Windows is my forte. I have been installing/reinstalling
> > Windows Millennium for the last three days. I expect to have a well
> > done installation within a week. I guess my idea of "installation" is
> > different than most folks. Mine has to look good and be as efficient
> > as possible (making Windows more nearly efficient is a Herculean
> > task).
>
> define efficient. i define efficient as plug and play. if it ain't fast
> enough for what i want to do i just buy a faster machine.
>
> > Being done in ten minutes is unbelievable.
>
> installers are cool.
> i think it took another ten minutes to get office up and running.
> connecting to the internet was trickier. that took about a half an hour
> between typing the configuration stuff (news server, mail server, etc) and
> making the obligatory phone call to my perverted isp to resolve a few
> issues on thier end.
> adding new peripherals is pretty simple too. what with windows being
> damn near universally supported and all.
> i really don't see what your beef is.
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
You must like the color blue very much.
I don't use windows because even tho the apps are nice, and you try to
say you want to get some work done, I don't see how you could get any
work done when you have to fight lock-ups and BSODs all day long.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:14:00 -0500
Anonymous wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert) wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Anonymous wrote:
> > >> > unix: user hostile
> > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >> Microsoft propaganda.
> > >
> >
> > It's absolutely true that Microsoft is spreading propaganda
> > about Linux being user unfreindly and incapable of doing
> > business functions.
>
> i don't know about being incapable of business functions, but if you
> think linux is user friendly you have absolutely no understanding of
> users.
Obviously you haven't seen a modern distribution of Linux.
>
> > It's also equally clear that Linux is running 50% of the WWW
> > as well as being the core engine on every BW Supercomputer cluster
> > in the world. Every new record being broken these days is being
> > established with a Linux super cluster.
>
> and this is relevant to someone not involved in running the www or
> supercomputer clusters... how exactly?
Simple...same OS is capable of running both desktops AND the most
high-end supercomputing tasks...and EVERYTHING in between..and
even right down to embedded applications (such as TIVO), and
PDA's (like the Palm Pilot series).
>
> > >no, personal experience.
> > >a generally impassable learning curve = user hostile.
> > >i was using windows to get work done ten minutes after installation.
> > >u can't touch this
> > >
> >
> > Linux not only IS doing it, it's actually beating Windows
> > on the desktop.
>
> what percentage of desktop machines are running linux?
Popularity != superiority. Especially when most desktop purchasers
have had NO option to purchase anything other than Microsoft windows.
Microsoft, among other criminal violations, has been found GUILTY
in Federal Court of structuring contracts that include such anti-
competetive restrictions as penalizing desktop and laptop makers
if they sell any computer with a non-Microsoft operating system.
This has come up repeatedly. Lately, they don't even go to court
over it anymore. They now settle out of court and specify that the
injured parties not talk about it, so that it doesn't make the
headlines.
By your popularity-based argument, we should all STILL be driving
steam and/or battery-powered cars, because quite obviously, gasoline-
fueled internal combustion powerd automobiles are inferior, because,
at one time, the majority of autos were steam or battery powered.
The fact of the matter is, gas IC engines were originally a VERY
small portion of the market...but the market soon adopted them
PRECISELY because they are superior.
> what percentage of desktop machines are running windows?
See above.
> if the former is smaller than the latter you may have to... revise and
> clarify... your remarks.
This argument presumes that
a) Linux has been available to the pre-built, pre-installed PC-buying
public from major vendors for some time. This is a FALSE
assumption
b) That the average user described above has even had an opportunity
to see and try-out a Linux machine in stores. Again, this
is a FALSE assumption.
>
> > W2k professional or ME appears like a pancake
> > peice of low performance shit when you compare it to a modern
> > Gnome or KDE2.
>
> 'i like x better than y therefore y sucks'
> brilliant. absolutely brilliant.
Actually, Y sucks because it crashes hard...HABITUALLY....and then
it self-destructs, forcing you to re-install it.
Did you know that the ONLY operating systems in the world that REQUIRE
re-installation as a method of fixing simple problems are...those
produced by Microsoft.
This is equivalent of having to get your engine rebuilt because
the alternator belt needs to be re-tensioned.
>
> > And installation is just a brainless. Suse, Mandrake and Redhat
> > all have clueless boob installations for the Windows user.
>
> got sneer?
You're complaining that Linux can't be installed successfully by
braindead people, and now you get all upset when it's pointed out
that, yes, indeed, all of the major distributors DO, in fact, make
installation easy for those who are clueless.
>
> > >xwindows?
> > >nerdo please...
> > >
> >
> > Xwindows has had such a powerful affect on Microsoft they
> > are trying to emulate it with their BRAND NEW XBOX product.
>
> so what yer sayin is microsoft will bring me whatever is most marketable
> in this linux thing eventually so i may as well just stick with what i
> know.
> ok. fine. that's what i was planning on doing anyway.
Actually, most everything you see in Windows land was developed
FIRST in Unix-land.
If you want cutting-edge apps, then you want Unix or Linux.
Windows has been playing catch-up from day one...and still is
to this very day.
>
> > Now what the fuck are you going to say?
>
> you seem upset.
> why is that?
>
Because you're denying reality, as if you are a complete shit-head,
Jackie.
Come on...I *know* you're smarter than that...so why don't you
demonstrate your intelligence and just acknowledge the truth.
> > >> Not only that, but Unix is very very very consistant; in contrast, DOS and
>Windows
> > >> both have lots of arbitrary rules with even more exceptions.
> > >
> > >why, if that is the case, are they so much easier to use?
> > > jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> > >
> > >men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> > >more even than death
> > >- bertrand russell
> > >
> >
> > They aren't Jones. This is a figment of your imagination.
>
> my knowledge of the windows interface allows me to walk up to any windows
> machine with office installed and get useful work done. learning the
> basics of the windows interface was trivial. i am trying to remember if
Learning the basics of the Unix GUIs are even more trivial.
> i've ever had to use the command line for anything and i'm drawing a
> blank.
I've never *HAD* to drive a car...but it beats the fuck out of riding
a bike if I have to go any farther than a quarter mile or so. Especially
if it's raining or snowing.
Tell us how productive you are when you have to apply the SAME CHANGE over
and over and over to 100 documents, using nothing but a GUI....compared
to the guy who can write a 5-line file of commands based on a "for"
loop to process all 100 documents in...oh..3 seconds or less.
You know....a 15-minute investment in learning how to write something
that takes under 3 seconds to execute BEATS THE FUCK out of pushing
some stupid mouse around for 6 hours to accomplish the exact same task.
> tell me, is it possible to set up and run your own linux machine and
> never once have to deal with the command line?
With the distributions which have been available for over a year
now, yes, this is not only possible, but ROUTINE.
>
> > I predict in another 5 years, Microsoft will finally come up to
> > the standards of today's Gnome or KDE2. It's going to take them
> > that damn long now that they are copying us.
>
> name one feature that those desktops have that will make things better
> for the end user.
They don't corrupt themselves like Microsoft does.
Remember...you didn't learn how to re-install Windows because
everything was working properly.... The fact that you even
know how to re-install windows demonstrates what a pile of shit
it truly is.
>
> > This is an undeniable fact now that they've posted this was their
> > intention on THEIR web site.
> >
> > If THEY AGREE they are copying Gnome and KDE2 functionality, then
> > surely you agree.
>
> so?
>
> > Why don't you run a real operating system and run Linux.
>
> because windows does everything i need it to do.
As long as you can tolerate doing a "format c:" and re-installing
from scratch....losing years of files in the process.
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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