Linux-Advocacy Digest #881, Volume #32 Mon, 19 Mar 01 02:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("Electric Ninja")
Re: IBM adapting entire disk storage line to work with Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> (Perry Pip)
Re: Good place for server racks, etc ? ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: Virus plague causes charity to consider Linux ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! ("Les Mikesell")
Re: WOW - This is Interesting ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: WOW - This is Interesting ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: GPL Like patents. ("Les Mikesell")
Re: IBM adapting entire disk storage line to work with Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software ("Les Mikesell")
Re: the truth about linux (J Sloan)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Memory needed to run linux / X windows ??? (J Sloan)
Re: the truth about linux (J Sloan)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Yet more XBox bogification... ("Zed Mister")
Re: Memory needed to run linux / X windows ??? (jtnews)
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From: "Electric Ninja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:11:02 GMT
For getting work done I love Win2000 like a charm but I'm scared to death to
have something like that running one of our aircraft carriers.
"Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Jan Johanson wrote in message <3ab419a9$0$48766$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/11929.html
> >
> >"Lockheed Martin is working on the design of the new US CVN 77 aircraft
> >carrier, and Microsoft Federal Systems is to co-operate in the ship's
> >information technology architecture. This will, we kid you not, be based
on
> >Windows 2000. Microsoft Consulting Services will meanwhile chip in with
> tech
> >support during the ship's software design, development and deployment."
> >
> >Cause the Navy knows what everyone else already knows, W2K is rock solid
> >enough to trust lives to.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM adapting entire disk storage line to work with Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:14:22 -0500
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Ed Allen wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <cCOs6.82336$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >It's alright, laugh it up. I know you're really just jealous
> > > >because you know that I'm right. You know that the only company
> > > >who really takes Linux seriously (if that's what it really is)
> > > >is IBM, and IBM has a poor track history with desktop and
> > > >small-server OSen.
> > > I suppose that is true if you have a secret definition for
> > > "seriously" like Erik likes to do.
> > >
> > > How many more millions does Intel need to invest to qualify in
> > > your private definition ?
> > >
> > > Lets not forget that AMD is encouraging Linux developers to use their
> > > coming 64-bit chips. They don't qualify, why ?
> > >
> > > SGI does not qualify either. Why not ? They are planning to add
> > > their NUMA technology and sell Itanium cluster machines.
> > >
> > > Then too, all the universities using Linux to put together their
> > > own Supercomputers are not companies either.
> > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1113447
> > >
> > > What do you think the graduating students will recommend for use
> > > at their new jobs ?
> >
> >
> > Yes, a very excellent point!
>
> It's a very common problem.
>
> Universities using archaic or esoteric systems to teach their students,
> and then when the students graduate and get out into the real world
> where companies have to make money, they realize they know nothing
> necessary to compete.
>
> Meanwhile, the intelligent individuals who decided not to waste
> their time on worthless university "computer science", and instead
> decided to learn the hot technologies that pay well and are making
Who do you think invented that "HOT TECHNOLOGY" you idiot....
> a fortune and are in high demand, even in today's economy.
>
> Those students may suggest it to their employers, but their employers
> will laugh because they know the truth about linux.
>
> -c
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Date: 19 Mar 2001 06:18:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 12:47:15 -0600,
Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:992igb$c30$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> >Well, they are claiming ther are backdoors without any real evidence.
>That
>> >means they're believing what they hear, rather than what they know to be
>> >fact.
>>
>> No. They are claiming there *may* be backdoors, and that this
>*possibility*
>> is a risk not worth taking in certain situations.
>
>And your own programmes might be putting back doors in themselves.
And maybe that's why when the Government hired me, in order to give
the the security clearance required for my job, they had the FBI do a
full background investigation on me fifteen years back into my
personal life... interviewing college buddies, ex-girlfriends, former
coworkers, etc., etc.
>The difference is that I lock my door with commercial grade locks.
And the military should use the commercial grade locks that you use to
protect it's deepest secrets?? Even worse, a lock made by foriegners
who may want to steal those secrets??
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good place for server racks, etc ?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:17:35 +0600
J Sloan wrote:
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > http://www.google.com/ is your friend.
>
> Yep it's my friend too - anything I need to find out
> these days, I just type a phrase into google and
>
> BAM!
>
> Immediately there's a list of highly relevant links.
I assume you're being sarcastic.
For me, it's usually feast or famine. No hits or too many. Even if the
"too many" are not just a bunch of fluff links, sometimes there are just
too many to wade through to find the particular details you're looking for.
Still, google has probably become my primary help desk on technical
subjects. Computer topics, and particularly topics dealing with open
source products, seem to have a more useful presence on the Web than most
other topics do.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Virus plague causes charity to consider Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:19:24 +0600
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> My comment was on your comment "Another one bites the dust!" which seems to
> be saying that the switch actually happened.
It's a well known fact that keeping your head in the sand is the best way to
keep the world from changing around you.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:29:22 GMT
"Pete Goodwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:QsOs6.3978$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Mart van de Wege wrote:
>
> > A bit OT, but this reminds me of Microsofts defense against the claim
> > that Windows is vulnerable to script viruses: They keep saying it is the
> > users responsiblity to turn off Outlooks braindead defaults.
> > IOW according to MS *you* are responsible for the default
configurations,
> > not the distributor of your application.
> > Well, we all know how seriously this defense is taken in this forum <g>.
> > As I have stated before, Pete *has* a point, it's just the way he keeps
> > whining about it that grates on my (and I guess other peoples') nerves.
>
> Well _excuse_ me!
>
> I'm sorry but if people keep trying to convince me it's _my_ fault
somehow,
> what do you expect me to do?!?
You could make the simple change to the configuration that dozens of
people have told you about. You could run Redhat which works with
the defaults as other people have told you. You could try the
sequence of rpm changes that another posted claimed made his
Mandrake work.
When you didn't understand the problem you might claim that it
is someone else's fault. As soon as you know how to fix it, it
is only your own fault if it is still broken.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:32:13 GMT
"Pete Goodwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7tEs6.1423$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> Forgetting how people perceive Linux are we?
> >
> > Forgetting how people perceive a thread (based on the subject)?
>
> Linux Oopsie pretty much says it all.
Given that only Mandrake has this problem, and then only if you choose
to install CUPS instead of lpr, where is the relationship to
Linux?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WOW - This is Interesting
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:32:57 +0600
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> Further, 1000 ticks per second eqates to 49.7 days, not 24 days.
Yes, as so aptly demonstrated by Windows95 (in those rare cases that it stayed
up that long).
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WOW - This is Interesting
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:36:40 +0600
Nico Coetzee wrote:
> This was NOT one of my greatest moments on usenet... lol (while i'm
> kicking my own butt). Maybe it's because I'm not yet on 2.4. I'm waiting
> for a decent boxed set to make a nice fresh install. Maybe I'll wait for
> RH7.2 as I'm on RH now for more then 3 years (5.2 was my last boxed set
> - from there it was upgrades all the way, usually with cheapbytes CD's).
If you have the bandwidth, you can get the RH 7.1 beta at
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/beta/wolverine. It comes with Linux 2.4.0 and
lots of other recent stuff.
I've been running a slightly earlier version of the beta for several weeks, and
haven't had any trouble with it. YMMV, of course.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GPL Like patents.
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:36:25 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >No, Max, you don't get it. I am not prevented from doing anything,
because,
> >for one thing, I have no Amiga. The point is, the FSF distributes GPLd
> >software that runs on the Amiga. They would seem to be saying that such
> >distribution is legal.
> >
> >However, on the other hand they seem to claim that programs running in
the
> >same address space are derived works, making those same programs derived
> >works of proprietary software (on the Amiga?).
>
> The FSF doesn't say a word about "same address space"; AFAIK, that was a
> random Usenet poster who brought that up. And this stuff which you
> repeated is precisely what I was talking about when I commented that you
> "need to existential" to even present your arguments, talking about same
> address space of a computer you don't have.
That was a random usenet poster quoting RMS, presumably speaking
for the FSF, so you can't dismiss it that easily unless you can disprove
the accuracy of the quote. In fact you shouldn't dismiss it until you
understand exactly why the fgmp library exists and the legal threats
involved against another free software project.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM adapting entire disk storage line to work with Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:48:26 -0500
Gary Hallock wrote:
>
> In article <va9t6.87051$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chad Myers"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Universities using archaic or esoteric systems to teach their students,
> > and then when the students graduate and get out into the real world
> > where companies have to make money, they realize they know nothing
> > necessary to compete.
> >
> > Meanwhile, the intelligent individuals who decided not to waste their
> > time on worthless university "computer science", and instead decided to
> > learn the hot technologies that pay well and are making a fortune and
> > are in high demand, even in today's economy.
> >
> > Those students may suggest it to their employers, but their employers
> > will laugh because they know the truth about linux.
>
> Actually, it is more likely that those students will be hired, in part,
> because of their knowledge of Linux and Unix. That is exactly what is
> happening where I work.
>
> Gary
Same here.
I'm still a few credit hours short of my degree, and I've got a
6-figure income (dollars alone).
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:50:14 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >You must have some imaginary version of the GPL. The real one
> >says nothing about having to share or redistribute in any way. It
> >says much about conditions that prohibit any form of sharing.
>
> Yea. That's what I said. Are you *sure* you're smart enough to be a
> programmer? Are you *really* too dumb to understand the difference
> between literal text and the effect of a licenses literal text?
It in no way resembles what you said.
> >
> >You can't combine components with any existing restrictions that
> >differ from the GPL's with anything with the GPL restrictions
> >and redistribute it.
>
> IOW: where you don't share, you don't share.
Yes, the result of the GPL is that you cannot share combinations
of things where all other parts are freely sharable.
> >> Sorry; the rule is you have to share.
> >
> >No, the rule is that only under certain conditions are you allowed
> >to share.
>
> Yes, and the ONE and ONLY "certain condition" is, you HAVE TO SHARE.
> You're really don't get this, do you?
No, because that has nothing to do with what the license says.
> >I don't dispute the author's right to impose whatever restrictions
> >he wants. The issue I am having trouble with is calling it free software
> >when
> >in fact it is so restricted that you cannot share improvements that
> >include any other work that actually is free.
>
> The issue you are having trouble with is calling it free software when
> it is free for EVERYONE except YOU. And you don't seem to understand
> that is on purpose.
I don't understand it because it contradicts logic. Given 2 pieces of
software
that can separately be obtained freely by anyone, the GPL prevents the
free distribution of the combination, making the improvement free for no
one.
> >In those days it was the only one with several features needed as
> >a real portable backup solution. (The --listed-incremental mode
> >and multipart archives among others).
>
> So you figure you'd incorporate that little benefit into your own work,
> huh? And you figure if GNU software says "its free", that means you
> should be free to do that. I folla, I folla. Couldn't figure out how
> to do with with some other tar, and couldn't use someone else's work
> without their permission. What a shame.
Yes, it is a shame that the GPL prevented the free distribution of code
that the original author (as I recall, GNUtar evolved from something
called pdtar, where pd=public domain) wanted to be freely available.
> >I am talking about separate components of freely available software
> >being integrated into something with new capabilities, and the one
> >with the most outrageous claims about being free is the one that
> >prohibits redistribution.
>
> That's why its the only one that makes a serious claim about being free.
> The others are just zero cost. Free beer, not free speech; you know how
> it goes....
And that's why it is a lie any way you look at it. The restrictions prevent
freedom under any of the definitions.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: the truth about linux
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:56:06 GMT
Brent R wrote:
> > Sorry, I don't have enough hours in the day to read
> > every lame anti linux article. If you want to spend your
> > time on that happy bs, knock yourself out.
> >
> > jjs
>
> Then... why did you respond at all?
Because the wild-eyed "finally, someone tells the truth"
was a dead giveaway to a tired old rant that we've
all heard many times.
Later,
jjs
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:56:10 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >The GPL simply doesn't guarantee the goal as stated by your last
> >sentence.
> >>
> >> Indeed, it does; that's why you have a problem with it.
> >
> >Please quote the part that you think says that anything must be shared.
>
> The whole thing. C'mon, Les; I know you're not that stupid. You aren't
> actually confusing the effect with the text, are you?
There is no part that says or even suggests that you must redistribute
anything at all, only restrictions on how you may do it if you choose.
Whatever effect you are talking about must have only been in your
mind.
> >The version I read only speaks of requirements that must be
> >met before it can be shared at all - requirements that prohibit
> >many things from being shared.
>
> Only theoretically. Regardless, the GPL only concerns what is covered
> by the GPL, obviously, so the issue is what is done with what *is*
> shared, not with what *isn't* shared. The only "requirements" are that
> it be shared completely, if it is shared.
Which rules out sharing many things at all.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory needed to run linux / X windows ???
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:57:11 GMT
jtnews wrote:
> Ian Pulsford wrote:
>
> > Hmmm, you must be doing something wrong, your video card sucks in a big
> > way, or you're using a serial cable?
>
> I was using redhat 6.2 with just the defaults
> with GNOME and sawfish running as a window
> manager.
>
> I don't bother tweaking my machine
> very far away from the default settings.
>
> If the machine is slow, I just throw it
> out and buy new hardware.
A bit drastic - the problem might be solved by
something as simple as a new RAM module
or a $35 video card.
jjs
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: the truth about linux
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:00:22 GMT
Michael Vester wrote:
> "Public " wrote:
> >
> > Here are some humorous snippets from a site located at
>http://members.aol.com/erichuf/Linux.html
> >
> > Finally! somebody willing to tell the truth!
> >
> <snip>
> > ---
> > This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
> > It was posted with the use of anonymizing software at
> > http://anon.xg.nu
> > ---
> Not a credible source. A grade "d" troller who is a coward or ashamed.
> All your losedose advocates, I want to here some trolling about how
> wonderful .Net and losedos xp are. And where is the lovable Flatfish+++.
> At least it seems that Flatfish++++ actually tried to use Linux.
Indeed, I will read what flatfish+++ says, but I haven't the
time to humour some random anonymous sock puppet.
jjs
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: misc.int-property,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:00:33 GMT
"NF Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "JD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >Look, those who don't like the GPL will have one of two reasons (perhaps
more):
> >
> >1) The license is bad.
> >2) The people associated with it are untrustworthy, and have caused
problems
> > due to their misleading information.
>
> No. The reason some people don't like the GPL is that it does not allow
> them to incorporate code licensed under it into proprietory, closed
> source software. AFAIAC that is a good thing.
Likewise some people don't like it because it does not allow them to
incorporate freely available code licensed under less restrictive
licenses into it and keep it freely redistributable. Or vice versa.
You can't combine it with code under *any* other term.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Zed Mister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Yet more XBox bogification...
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:03:30 -0800
Uhm.... lens flare has been a part of Direct3D for a LONG time ... it was
used extensively in Need For Speed: Porche Unleashed, and the version before
that (I don't remember the name). Those games used Direct3D 5.0 and 6.0 as
their 3D API. The lens flare in those games was actually much more advanced
and looked a whole lot better than the Photoshop filter that was used in
that demo screenshot.
"Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Alan Baker wrote:
>
> > 'Today, Microsoft released this statement on www.xbox.com:
> >
> > "Some of the images for Amped released during Gamestock were enhanced to
> > illustrate some features that will be in the final product. ...
>
> And we know how good MS is about ensuring that all their brag features
actually
> make it into their final products.
>
> Bobby Bryant
> Austin, Texas
>
>
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From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory needed to run linux / X windows ???
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:03:26 GMT
J Sloan wrote:
> A bit drastic - the problem might be solved by
> something as simple as a new RAM module
> or a $35 video card.
It took ages to compile a 2.2.x kernel
even in single user mode with nothing
else running.
I only kept it around because I wasn't
sure if my old Adaptec 2940 SCSI card would
work in my 700Mhz machine, after I got that
working I decided to retire the 90Mhz machine.
I was also beginning to have compatibility problems
with the 2.2.17 kernel.
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