Linux-Advocacy Digest #672, Volume #33 Tue, 17 Apr 01 17:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Impact of Internet (Paul Kahler)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Linux is for the lazy (Brian Langenberger)
Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 ("Jim Knowles")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 ("Dreamspinner3")
Re: Am I fucked? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 (Mig)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kahler)
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.theory,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: Impact of Internet
Date: 17 Apr 2001 16:02:53 GMT
In comp.arch Grant Z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: You are EXACTLY correct. The web is the best communication medium yet to
: hit the planet in mass form. I think the reason that nobody has figured out
: how to make money on the web is that they are trying to use an independent
: communication tool for selling something. Similar to telemarketing. I have
To clarify that point, just use the "information highway" analogy. How many
companies make money from the interstate system in the U.S. ?? Only those
that do maintenance on the infrastructure. Sure, everyone benefits from
roads (moving materials,products,employees, and customers), but not too
many get IPO cash for saying they'll utilize roads. That leaves companies
like Cisco to make money building the infrastructure - until the rapid
construction phase ends, which yesterdays quarterly seems to indicate :-)
BTW, I can't remember the guys name (shame on me) who devised the concept
of hypertext, but it was back in the 60's. The web is a classic example
of how long it can take for an idea to mature. Granted, a lot of things
came together to make it happen - the internet, cheap PCs, a little
innovation here and there...
Oh wait... was it Ted Nelson?
Thanks,
<pre>
___ __ _ _ _
| \ / \ | | | || | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Engineer/Programmer
| _/| || || |_| || |__ " What makes someone care so much?
|_| |_||_| \___/ |____) for things another man can just ignore. " -S.H.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:45:05 -0400
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, silverback
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:12:12 GMT
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 20:19:39 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>silverback wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 02:33:42 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
>
> [snip for brevity]
>
> >>> >Oh, you mean like PG&E, which went bankrupt because they were forced to
> >>> >operate under a Marxist economic model......
> >>>
> >>> oh you mean they couldn't cut it in a free market asshole. Remember
> >>> asshole it was fools like you that deregulated the market.
> >>
> >>Was PG&E forced to operate under price-control regulation?
> >>a) no
> >>B) YES
> >
> >nope
Pull your head out of your ANUS, Mathew
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell011201.asp
Thomas Sowell
Electricity shocks California
http://www.jewishworldreview.com -- AS
AN ECONOMIST, whenever I hear the word
"shortage" I wait for the other shoe to drop. That
other shoe is usually "price control." So it was no
great surprise to discover, after the electric power
shortage in California made headlines, that there
were price controls holding down the price of
electricity to the consumers.
In the absence of price control, a shortage is usually
a passing thing. When prices are free to rise, that
causes consumers to buy less and producers to
produce more, eliminating the shortage. But when
the price is artificially prevented from rising, the
shortage is prevented from ending.
The electric power shortage in California is not
unique. What is a new twist, however, is that there
are no limits on how much the wholesale electric
power suppliers can charge the utility companies
that directly supply the consumer. Since the utility
companies have been paying more for electricity
than they were allowed to charge their customers,
they were operating in the red and the financial
markets are downgrading their bonds. Buying high
and selling low is the royal road to bankruptcy, and
bonds in a bankrupt company are not usually worth
much.
Nor is it any great surprise that "consumer
advocates" are denouncing the utilities for seeking a
rate increase -- or that politicians are proposing a
small increase, completely inadequate to cover the
cost of the electricity bought by the utilities. In the
never-never land of California ideology, it is
considered terrible if the public should have to pay
the full cost of what it wants.
In California, prices higher than you like are
attributed to "greed" or "gouging" and the answer is
either more government regulation or having the
government take over the utility company
completely and run it. There are people who are old enough to know
better who get their 15 minutes of fame by going on television and
repeating the sophomoric slogans of their youth, back in the days of
Berkeley in the 1960s. And there are media people who take them
seriously -- or at least pretend to.
But just as there is no free lunch, there is no free
electricity. And the idea that the government can
run businesses at lower costs flies in the face of
worldwide evidence that whatever enterprise
politicians and bureaucrats run has higher costs.
That is why even left-wing governments have been
privatizing in recent years, even if this fact has not
yet gotten through to those Californians who are still living with the
ideological visions of their Berkeley youth.
Far from lowering the cost of producing electricity, government at all
levels has for many years and in many ways been needlessly increasing
that cost.
Nothing forces prices up like restricting the supply. It has been years
since anyone has built more electricity-generating facilities in California
because the environmentalists, the courts, the state and local governments
and assorted wackos have made it virtually impossible to build a
hydroelectric dam, a nuclear power plant or a facility that uses coal or oil
to generate electricity.
There are all sorts of bright ideas for generating electricity by using
sunlight or windmills. It never seems to occur to those who espouse these
ideas to ask why people who have spent a lifetime working in the
electricity industry do not share their enthusiasm for these schemes.
Could it possibly be that the costs of generating electricity this way are
higher?
There are already vast arrays of aging windmills in the hills leading out to
California's central valley as monuments to the utopianism that seems to
flourish in the golden state. All that is needed is Don Quixote.
Politics is supposed to be the art of the possible but, in California
especially, it is often the art of the impossible. Somehow politicians must
make it seem possible to get benefits without paying costs. But if we are
too squeamish to build a dam and inconvenience some fish or reptiles,
too aesthetically delicate to permit drilling for oil out in the boondocks
and too paranoid to allow nuclear power plants to be built, then we
should not be surprised if there is not enough electricity to supply our
homes and support a growing economy.
The easy answer that is preferred is to use electricity generated outside of
California -- somewhere out in the real world beyond our borders.
>
> I do wonder. Presumably, if PG&E didn't like it, they could have
> declared Chapter 7, liquidated, and gone into some other line of work.
> But that's a long and complex process -- "hey buddy, did ya wanna
> buy a spare transmission tower or generator?" :-)
>
> (I believe they're operating under Chapter 11 at the moment. I'd
> have to check, but that's what most businesses filing bankruptcy do AFAIK.)
>
> Another possibility is for PG&E to file suit charging unfair pricing
> practices by the PUC, the state's regulatory authority for electricity
> pricing (amongst other things). This makes it by default a quasi-socialistic
> concept -- the regulation of the electricity price for the common good.
> Only in this case it backfired badly, and now we'll have to suffer
> all summer.
>
> Note that the regulation of electricity prices started in 1996; this means
> that the 46% increase already granted (which is not enough, BTW) translates
> to about 7.9% a year over 5 years. Had the PUC granted those increases,
> we might have had a few shiny new power plants by now.
>
> Of course TURN would have a fit -- and I can't blame them too much.
> But all this is electrons through the transmission wire. :-)
>
> [rest snipped]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191 0d:10h:30m actually running Linux.
> This is not a .sig.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is for the lazy
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:48:28 +0000 (UTC)
Scott Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Well, you just wanted a fight, but the complaints here are about Unix,
: not Linux. Linux'ses goal was to be Unix compatible. It has done that
: and more.
Complaints? I have no complaints. Laziness is a virtue, not a vice,
but it came as no surprise that responders would assume otherwise.
However, the denizens of c.o.l.advocacy have been kicked around by
trolls so often that I'm not surprised to find a few would look
for trolls where none exist.
I, for one, have better things to do with my time than babysit
computers or their OSes - which is why Linux is such a nice
thing to have.
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From: "Jim Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:48:47 GMT
Oh how I love CAPS.
There used to be a guy (Mike someone? - I don't remember exactly) in this
group who regularly offered abuse, insults etc. to reasonable questions.
When his victims had the temerity to "whine" about it, his stock response
was something along the lines of "you can't give insults, you can only
receive them. I can't help it if you (victim x) CHOOSE to be offended by my
answer. I have a right to say what I want.".
I take it you would agree with him.
Personally, I hope Mike gets a great big kick in the nuts. Then he can
decide whether he's RECEIVED one or not. But that will be his choice: you
can't give them, only receive them. Then again, the nut-kicking habit is
just someone else's problem. Mike shouldn't give it any thought at all.
So let's all agree that when people like ignoramus3489 post their pointless,
juvenile, offensive language, it's THEIR problem. And, by the same
reasoning, you presumably feel that when people like Big Bob offend you by
"whining" about Mr. ignoramus, then it's THEIR problem, not yours. SO what
are YOU complaining about?
tsk tsk, you silly-billy.
"z0ck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:OpZC6.1313$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [posted and mailed]
>
> Next time, just kill-file the guy and don't complain about it. I don't
want
> to hear it. Raising your kids is your problem.
>
> I swear WAY too much. Its a personality flaw that I try very hard to
> correct. You will notice that I don't post profanity. However, whenever
> someone else does, don't you think that's THEIR problem?
>
> I don't have kids because I don't want to deal with that stuff. I
certainly
> don't want to hear you whine about how hard it is.
>
>
> Big Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Am I tacky would be have been a better question (Hint: answer begins
with
> a
> > 'Y'). That's 2 fresh new entries to the blocked senders list, possibly
> more
> > to come. Nothing like telling your kids they should use polite
language,
> > then clicking on a newsgroup....digital photography no less...and
finding
> > people with so little regard for others that they can't even ask a three
> > word question without displaying their tackiness in the subject line.
And
> > then of course the 'guilt by association' of replying with subject line
> > intact.
> >
> > Kindly restrict your cross posting to newsgroups that appreciate your
> > tackiness...photographers in general tend to have a bit more class than
> > that.
> >
> > Big Bob
> > "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > On 17 Apr 2001 12:31:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > (Igor3489) wrote:
> > > If it has TWAIN drivers it should scan the image straight into a
> > > program like Compupic or Photoshop...
> > > Try a demo version and see if they solve the prob
> > > >I bought an HP Photosmart C500 digital camera. I have Linux and
> Win2000.
> > > >
> > > >Guess what, the stupid camera does not work with Win2000 because HP
did
> > > >not write a driver for it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:46:43 -0400
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sun, 15 Apr 2001 03:53:00 -0400
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >Mathew wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Jim Richardson wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 03:51:42 GMT,
> >> > silverback, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> > brought forth the following words...:
> >> >
> >> > >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:24:34 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>Goldhammer wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:33:15 -0400,
> >> > >>> Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> > Right. Fascism is characterized by the *state-directed* control of
> >> > >>> >the economy,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Hmm. Sounds like communism.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Precisely.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Communism and Fascism are merely different sides of the same coin.
> >> > >
> >> > >bullshit you lying sack of shit. Fascism is the polar opposite of
> >> > >communism. They have nothing in common.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Fascicsm=control by a ruling oligarchy that murders it's population.
> >> > Communism=control by a ruling oligarchy that murders it's population.
> >>
> >> What about Capitalist Fascist dictatorships like the
> >> Philippines,particulary under Marcos.
> >
> >Capitalism and Fascism are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE TERMS,
> >you goddmned fucking moron.
>
> As I understand it, capitalism is an economic system, fascism is
> a political one. Therefore, the two terms are mostly independent.
>
No. Fascism is an economic system which is USUALLY accompanied
by a police state and/or totalitarian government.
While Japan is not a totalitarian government, it IS a police state.
> A similar dichotomy exists for communism and socialism. In fact,
> the Red Chinese are becoming the Green Chinese -- green as in
> capitalist money, as opposd to their old communist system.
> Whether they'll succeed under their current authoritarian political
> system isn't very clear yet but at least they've had the sense to
> keep their hands off (mostly) the Hong Kong economy, which is of
> course already capitalist.
>
> I suspect that they'll want to at some point do the equivalent of
> the Rural Electrification and the Interstate Highway projects, though.
> (They might do the same thing as Vietnam, though, and go all-cellular.
> Whatever works, I guess. :-) )
>
> [rest snipped]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191 0d:11h:41m actually running Linux.
> The US gov't spends about $54,000/second. I wish I could.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:51:18 GMT
>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
Aaron> Rob Robertson wrote:
>>
>> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>> >
>> > Rob Robertson wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Henry Glenworthy wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > "Rob Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > "Let's take a nice, Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon style pure-democratic
>> > > > > vote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > All for putting Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon up against the wall, and
>> > > > > filling him full of lead, say "AYE!" All opposed, say "NAY"
>> > > >
>> > > > > Let's see how much Sliverdick likes democracy now."
>> > > >
>> > > > > > AYES:3
>> > > > > > NAYS:0
>> > > >
>> > > > > ABSTAIN:1
>> > > >
>> > > > > An example of the dangers of pure democracy is all well and good,
>> > > > > but I reject pure democracy even if Glen advocates it and wouldn't
>> > > > > vote either way on the matter; there is no moral justification for
>> > > > > the action or the mass decision behind it.
>> > > >
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > >
>> > > > What!? You don't believe in "one person - one vote", even if
>> > > > the result is the trampling of individual rights? Tsk, tsk. Shouldn't
>> > > > the easily swayed, fickle general public get to determine the fate
>> > > > of minorities it has suddenly grown to dislike? Shouldn't people
>> > > > who drive while using a cell phone and drinking their Starbuck's
>> > > > latte be shot on the spot?
>> > >
>> > > Heavens, no! That's just,... it's immoral, first of all, and entirely
>> > > incommensurate with the actual crime. What if we just firehosed them,
>> > > instead?
>> >
>> > Should not the murderer be subjected to the loss of his own life?
>> >
>> > Therefore, someone (like Sliverdick) who advocates democracy (mob rule),
>> > should be subjected to mob rule.
>>
>> I agree completely that Glen should be responsible for his actions, but
>> I wanted to point out that since *I* don't believe in mob rule and view
>> it as an abdication of moral responsibility, I'm not voting 'aye' -- I'm
>> not voting at all on the question.
>>
Aaron> I think Sliverdick should be made to serve as an example to all others
Aaron> who believe in his idiotic shit.
Yes, by mocking his views and exposing his lies.
Killing him for his ideas, as you advocate, is the
act of a totalitarian, which you have often shown
signs of.
Even when you are not making lying cowardly forged
posts.
--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
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From: "Dreamspinner3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:54:49 -0500
Reply-To: "Dreamspinner3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I think what we're whining about is the fact that it is up to the parents of
any children who may read this group to censor them and make sure the
material their viewing is appropriate....and that others should have to tow
the line and censor themselves because said parents won't/don't/can't
whatever.
"Jim Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:P_1D6.598717$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Oh how I love CAPS.
>
> There used to be a guy (Mike someone? - I don't remember exactly) in this
> group who regularly offered abuse, insults etc. to reasonable questions.
> When his victims had the temerity to "whine" about it, his stock response
> was something along the lines of "you can't give insults, you can only
> receive them. I can't help it if you (victim x) CHOOSE to be offended by
my
> answer. I have a right to say what I want.".
>
> I take it you would agree with him.
>
> Personally, I hope Mike gets a great big kick in the nuts. Then he can
> decide whether he's RECEIVED one or not. But that will be his choice: you
> can't give them, only receive them. Then again, the nut-kicking habit is
> just someone else's problem. Mike shouldn't give it any thought at all.
>
> So let's all agree that when people like ignoramus3489 post their
pointless,
> juvenile, offensive language, it's THEIR problem. And, by the same
> reasoning, you presumably feel that when people like Big Bob offend you by
> "whining" about Mr. ignoramus, then it's THEIR problem, not yours. SO what
> are YOU complaining about?
>
> tsk tsk, you silly-billy.
>
>
> "z0ck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:OpZC6.1313$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [posted and mailed]
> >
> > Next time, just kill-file the guy and don't complain about it. I don't
> want
> > to hear it. Raising your kids is your problem.
> >
> > I swear WAY too much. Its a personality flaw that I try very hard to
> > correct. You will notice that I don't post profanity. However,
whenever
> > someone else does, don't you think that's THEIR problem?
> >
> > I don't have kids because I don't want to deal with that stuff. I
> certainly
> > don't want to hear you whine about how hard it is.
> >
> >
> > Big Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Am I tacky would be have been a better question (Hint: answer begins
> with
> > a
> > > 'Y'). That's 2 fresh new entries to the blocked senders list,
possibly
> > more
> > > to come. Nothing like telling your kids they should use polite
> language,
> > > then clicking on a newsgroup....digital photography no less...and
> finding
> > > people with so little regard for others that they can't even ask a
three
> > > word question without displaying their tackiness in the subject line.
> And
> > > then of course the 'guilt by association' of replying with subject
line
> > > intact.
> > >
> > > Kindly restrict your cross posting to newsgroups that appreciate your
> > > tackiness...photographers in general tend to have a bit more class
than
> > > that.
> > >
> > > Big Bob
> > > "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > On 17 Apr 2001 12:31:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > (Igor3489) wrote:
> > > > If it has TWAIN drivers it should scan the image straight into a
> > > > program like Compupic or Photoshop...
> > > > Try a demo version and see if they solve the prob
> > > > >I bought an HP Photosmart C500 digital camera. I have Linux and
> > Win2000.
> > > > >
> > > > >Guess what, the stupid camera does not work with Win2000 because HP
> did
> > > > >not write a driver for it.
> > >
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From: Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Am I fucked? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:50:22 +0200
Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>2) Can I use the camera with linux? That would be preferred as I do use
>>linux much more than win2000.
>
> No. Or at least, it's not listed as supported. However, the C200 C30 and
> C20 are, and maybe the driver will work with the C500 (stranger things
> happen ;-)
Yes it is.. i have one just like that. He just got to try
ods.sourceforge.net, sacrifice a goat at midnight, compile the program and
have fun as long as he can :-) (Oh.. i did that - without the goat)
The Gphoto2 lib should have support for it in the near future, but there is
still no stable software around that uses it.
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