Linux-Advocacy Digest #818, Volume #33 Mon, 23 Apr 01 13:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Bud Frawley)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: Communism ("billh")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: Communism ("billh")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Nils Zonneveld)
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! ("Edward Rosten")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: Communism (Strabo)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Edward Rosten")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Jon Johansan")
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 23 Apr 2001 11:55:13 -0500
"mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jon Johansan wrote:
> >
> > "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:9btjqu$h5d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Jon Johansan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> > > > >
> > > > > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing
> > that
> > > the
> > > > > company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he
> > hopes
> > > to
> > > > > reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial
outlay.
> > > > > "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes
rather
> > > than a
> > > > > saving in purchase price," he said.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
> > > availability,
> > > > > reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will
reduce
> > > > > operational costs by managing a single server rather than
thousands.
> > > >
> > > > It is a pretty funny article. I will print a copy and wait a year
and
> > have
> > > a
> > > > good chuckle.
> > >
> > > The article claims a few other companies have already gone to W2DC and
> > have
> > > good success... did you read the article?
> > >
> > > -Todd
> >
> > Of course he didn't - he's a blind zealot
>
> Ahh yes, if one can't win an argument by fact or knowledge, the idiot
resorts
> to insulting the opponent.
But I stated a fact.
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 23 Apr 2001 11:57:12 -0500
"mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Except that it isn't true. Many companies are finding that an NT/2K
solution is
> not more stable, is not cheaper, is not easier to manage.
Except that what you just wrote is NOT true. W2K IS much more stable and
cheaper and in every single way imaginable much MUCH easier to manage. I
mean, night and day differences.
>For every article
> about a company switching to an MS solution, one can find one about a
company
> dropping an MS solution (or pointing out that the previous company did not
> deploy the MS solution in the critical areas.)
I doubt this.
>
> An article that claims someone is moving to an MS solution is less
valuable
> than one which claims they are dropping the MS solution. The logic is that
one
> is based on an estimate, and the other is based on experience.
WOW - didn't you just identify yourself as a blind zealot here! whew!!
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 23 Apr 2001 11:59:16 -0500
"mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:7KHE6.75389$J%> >
> > However, product activation in XP is ONLY an issue with those that
> > intend to bootleg it. It is of NO issue whatsoever to those that
> > purchase legitimate copies.
> >
> > I've been working with the beta and it continues to amaze me how many
> > people have the operation of activation completely and categorically
> > wrong. I'll repeat: product activation is ONLY a concern to those that
> > bootleg XP - it means nothing to legitimate users. (small tidbit pirates
> > already know: enterprise versions of XP come with a "magic" key that
> > bypasses activation).
> >
>
> Well, it is not a concern to me, but only because I will definitely
> never buy XP.
Good! One less person who can't configure windows to bitch about it later.
>Firstly, linux meets all my needs other than
> video games.
Good foryou.
>Second, I haven't bought any MS OS since Win '95,
> so I've fallen off the upgrade treadmill and it would cost a fortune
> to get back on.
Guess you don't play many games either? And, 2nd comment, I guess this means
you have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER what current generations of windows are like -
so what you are saying is very similar to: I haven't bought a car since the
Model T and then give your opinion of a Corvette based on your Model-T
experiences...
I think I can safely
[snip]
the rest of your uneducated FUD
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From: Bud Frawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:58:14 -0500
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:52:42 GMT, John Jones said...
>
> "Bud Frawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:44:01 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > > Bud Frawley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:13:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > > > > MH wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating
> idiot.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal
> work is a
> > > > > > > > self
> > > > > > > > > flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the
> same as a
> > > > > > man
> > > > > > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > LOL.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal
> pay.
> > > > >
> > > > > But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming in
> early,
> > > > > or staying late, as needed. Or going out of town on a business trip
> > > > > on short notice....or transferring half way across the country (or
> > > > > even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
> > > > >
> > > > > Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL AVERAGE for
> > > > > women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go to the
> > > > > same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
> > > >
> > > > LOL!!!!! I guess you just proved your not a manager! when my cousin
> got
> > > > promotyed to manager in his company he showed me the pay list! there
> was
> > > > 2 different pays 1 for men 1 for women! men got paid $13.00 an hour
> when
> > > > women got paid $9.00 an hour for the same shift! I told him it's not
> fair
> > > > and they should pay the same so he filed an greavence. they said no
> way.
> > > > he quit that job in a hurry! I bet they stop laughing when I call feds
> on
> > > > this one! they offered him mney to keep quiet but I said no way I'm
> > > > keepiung quiet! this is gonna hit the papers when I start talking!
> > >
> > > Men show up for work more reliably.
> >
> > LOL!!!! ya right! I left out the part when he showed me there time cards
> > because I knew you'd bite! the women get there every day ON TIME! when
> > somebody's show's up late it's always a man! those are statistics my boy!
> >
> > >
> > > Do you know how much a production work stoppage costs a factory?
> > >
> > > A hell of more than $4.00/hour.
> >
> > LOL! like they lower there prices when it stops! you do'nt pay for when
> > it stops because the owner is right there! I guess you think he has to
> > pay himself when it stops! LOL!!!!!
> > >
> > > As long as women insist on group rights, then they will suffer
> > > group penalties as well.
> > >
> > >
> > > By the way, who put a gun to these women's heads and FORCED them
> > > to accept $9.00.
> >
> > thank's for proving your a complete moron! they either take $9.00 or they
> > get fired! that's as bad a holding a gun to there heads if you want to
> > support a family!
> >
> > >
> > > It appears that management offered $9.00/hour, and they accepted.
> >
> > I'm gonna say this one more time so take the beans outa your ears THAT"S
> > ALL THE JOB PAYS FOR WOMEN! maybe you should go back to the dumass farm!
> >
> > >
> > > All this displays is that most women are exceptionally poor
> > > negotiators.
> >
> > care to provide a cite? I guess not!
> >
> > >
> > > So of course, they have to get a law passed to protect them, because
> > > they are so strong, and equal.
> >
> > if men were paid less then women they would pass a law so fast it would
> > make your head spin!
> > >
>
> They already did - It's the Equal Pay Act of 1963. It prohibits paying
> people less for the same work becasue of their sex. Tell your cousin about
> it.
>
>
>
another republiCON moron which think's when a republiCON is in the white
house all laws for equality are all enforced! I guess you did'nt read my
post or you would of known they offerred him a bribe to keep quiet! I
guess you think they would do that if it was legal! to bad they do'nt
care! they pay less to women ! what part do'nt you understand? moron!
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:00:30 -0500
"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:44:12 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> >"mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> >So your needs are a mostly unusable OS with half-baked apps and
> >a buggy, if not completely broken UI? Cool!
> >
>
> You misread his post. He said he didn't need Windows XP.
>
I didn't misread it - I see that he's had no experience of Windows beyond
Windows 95 so his opinions/experiences here matter zero. It would be like he
was reviewing a corvette after having driven only one Model T in his entire
life. Useless...
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:00:57 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > Proof that you are an idiot, a liar, and a "war-hero" wannabe. The
> > restriction is a 75 years (if ever), hence 2166. Go try to impress
someone
> > else KuKuNut. We know what you are.
>
> Then why were all of the WW2 archives declassified over the period
> 1990-1995
>
> Hmmmmmmmmm?
You are truly an idiot. Did you serve in WWII? No. You claimed to have
served in DS. Declas is 2166. This is just simply more evidence that you
are only a pathetic "war-hero" wannabe.
Do you remember the name of the document you signed regarding the clas info
and the restrictions on its release? No. Thought so. Of course, you'll
come up with another pathetically lame excuse for why you can't provide that
info.
Again, you've proven you simply don't know what you are talking about. You
are a wannabe, KuKuNut. That fact surprises no one.
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:01:23 -0500
"Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9bvpod$b19gk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Right, and this is why Win9x sucks. Win2K doesn't have this problem.
> >
>
> It still has the same shitty registry and DLL management so can still be
> killed by installing the wrong application - why can't installing anything
> which needs a newer version of a DLL just install the new file under a new
> name instead of replacing the old one and inevitably killing all apps
which
> rely on using a specific version - unix has had this ability over 20 years
> yet MS hasn't innovated this far yet.
No, you are completely wrong. You do NOT have DLL "hell" under W2K - period.
AND with XP there is now the ability to have multiple different versions of
a DLL in different directories that particular apps can call and load
simultaneously and NOT affect other versions. In this way MS has leapfrogged
Unix (again).
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:03:13 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > Your coyness is unbecoming, coward.
> >
> > Tough, ain't it, wannabe.
>
> Notice how Bill refuses to answer the question.
>
> Tell us, Bill..what war zones have you served in?
Why don't you? Hell, I got your info with a single phone call. Remember
your panic email asking me how I got the info? Why don't you get mine,
wannabe?
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:04:11 -0500
and all that means... you are a unix dude... ok. so?
Gee, an OS that is bogged down by _buggy apps_ who'd a thunk?
I'll bet I can create a buggy app that'll bog down any OS if the bugs were
gnarly enough eh? silly...
memory usage too high? What's the yardstick? If you compare usage to
Commadore 64 levels then even Linux is a memory PIG! However, we're not. And
256 megs of ECC RAS2 memory will set you back a whooping $89 - do you really
need to be concerned about 486's running with 32 megs?
"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have used Windows since version 3.11 (workgroups), and my last version
> I used for approx. 12 months was Windows 2000, and it still gets bogged
> down by buggy apps, memory usage is still too high, under linux it only
> 38MB after loading up fully to the desktop. As for the half baked
> software, if you hadn't noted that freshmeat is a site for brand new
> software, un developed, and still being debugged. I have used various
> UNIX variants, ranging from IRIX to Solaris. Linux is still the best
> desktop UNIX to date for the Intel Platform. As for the high end, no
> wonder Intel was virtually pleading with SUN to get them to port Solaris
> to Itanium, who the hell would trust Windows DC (which I call a
> glorified desktop OS) running on a big iron, NOT ME. I would rather put
> my trust in a PROVEN OS with PROVEN reliability. I am sure many Solaris
> users out their can back me up on Solaris reliability.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
>
> --
> Disclaimer:
>
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:04:25 GMT
"Roberto Alsina"
> >> Sadly, we have been, as a society, convinced by the men with
> >> guns that they have a right to kill.
> >
> >"We"? For whom do you think you speak?
>
> I think it's clear in the paragraph you quoted. And you make a fine
> example.
Are "we" from the same society? No.
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:05:12 -0500
"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > However, product activation in XP is ONLY an issue with those that
intend to
> > bootleg it. It is of NO issue whatsoever to those that purchase
legitimate
> > copies.
> >
> > I've been working with the beta and it continues to amaze me how many
people
> > have the operation of activation completely and categorically wrong.
I'll
> > repeat: product activation is ONLY a concern to those that bootleg XP -
it
> > means nothing to legitimate users. (small tidbit pirates already know:
> > enterprise versions of XP come with a "magic" key that bypasses
activation).
>
> I agree with your statement regarding the activation. I have been using
> commercial UNIX's for years, and most software, such as SUN Forte
> Developer require registration as each installation is node locked,
> however, in a large organisation, there is a floating license which
> bypasses the activation. Maybe Microsoft is learning yet again from the
> UNIX world. I do however have a concern with its salability, in a small
> specialised market this sort of licensing is easy to police, however,
> imagine call centres bombarded with thousands of calls per minute of
> people pissed off waiting 20 minutes for service.
Think: Activation can be automated over the internet ... and it is.
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:05:46 GMT
"Roberto Alsina"
> Remains a blatant assertion? Indeed!
Truth quite often is blatant.
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From: Nils Zonneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:04:56 +0200
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Macs are overly-dependant upon the GUI, just like LoseDOS.
>
I think your problem with Mac OS will be solved by Mac OS X :-)
Like a server is most easily administrated with a commandline, an
everyday desktopsystem for the average user is most easily to use with a
GUI. While I love a commandline interface -but I can get that easily
with a telnet session to my Linuxbox-, the GUI of Mac OS (and of BeOS)
are really comfy to use. I agree that it also a matter of personal
taste. A sad observation though makes clear that the gross majority of
end users starts panicking at the sight of a CLI.
Oh BTW can you do something about that ridiculous .sig of yours, 4 lines
of .sig would be quite long enough.
Kind regards,
Nils Zonneveld
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:07:33 +0100
>> I'm using 3.3.6 and it rocks. If it sucks donkey balls compared to
>> 4.03, then I'll have to get XF4.
>
> I don't have personal experience with it yet, but my understanding is
> that XFree86 4.03 puts previous versions to shame.
It fust be f***ing excellent!
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:07:17 -0500
"Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:uBME6.6146$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8cDE6.143327$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Far, far too expensive for LESS performance even! There's no reason to
go
> > Unix any more these days. It just doesn't make sense no matter what
> perspective
> > you're looking from. Price? Nope. Performance? Heck no. Security? Yeah,
> right.
> >
> > Win2K is better all around.
>
> Then why do my IIS 5.0 servers crash regularly? If I didn't have a
> third party load balancer avoiding the ones that decided to pop
> up a dialog box (from a service???) instead of restarting after
> a crash they would be down much of the time. They are just
> doing xsl transformations with Microsoft's msxml3.dll.
Because your applications are incredibly buggy?
Given that we run just a hair less than 100 IIS5 servers split between our
two largest clients (plus a smattering of about a dozen more) and have to
date had a SINGLE blue screen event (a brand new gigabit over copper
ethernet card with the "latest" drivers hosed us, we fell back to our
previous Intel adapter and were up and running in minutes) - I would think
that the problem lies elsewhere...
if you have a service poppping up dialog boxes then that service is
obviously fooked!
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From: Strabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:07:35 -0400
"Gunner ©" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:52:52 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >In the past you have advocated shooting people just for being
> >democrats.
> >
> >Do you deny this?
>
> Ive done the same. But...Ive changed my outlook a bit. We should keep at
> least a few breeding pairs in zoos, to show future generations what kind
> of varmint is a Democrat/Liberal.
>
> Gunner
:-)
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:07:51 GMT
"Roberto Alsina"
> >My house has over half a dozen guns, and ammunition for each,
> >and I haven't been convinced that I have any "right to kill"
>
> Why do you have lethal weapons?
> If the answer is "to defend myself", who would you be defending
> yourself against?
In most of the US, a citizen owns guns simply because they choose to. No
other reason is required. Freedom is simply choice.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:08:53 +0100
> No, you are completely wrong. You do NOT have DLL "hell" under W2K -
> period. AND with XP there is now the ability to have multiple different
> versions of a DLL in different directories that particular apps can call
> and load simultaneously and NOT affect other versions. In this way MS
> has leapfrogged Unix (again).
Uh...
$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:08:17 -0500
"Peter Köhlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> mlw wrote:
>
> > Todd wrote:
> >>
> >> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> >> The article claims a few other companies have already gone to W2DC and
> >> have good success... did you read the article?
> >>
> > I read the article, and am taken with how stupid it sounds. I have seen
> > a couple stories like it followed by the inevitable article a year or
> > two later about how they have to upgrade, yet again, to get the benefits
> > they thought they were getting with the previous version. In a year or
> > two they will either upgrade again or go back to UNIX. Just wait and
> > see.
> >
> There were several instances in germany in the last years, where exactly
> that happened. In one case MS tried to replace a working OS/2 network
> with a NT4 one. After more than 10M $ spent they simply gave up and got
> back to OS/2.
How about documenting this.
I do not know of ANY company that spends $10M (we put the $ in front of the
number in this country) to convert and then just "gives up" - yea right...
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From: "Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:09:19 -0500
"Peter Köhlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jon Johansan wrote:
> >
> > SO I guess by your logic all big iron boxes like those from IBM and Sun
> > are crap and should be immedateily replaced by 1000s of cheap 386
> > rejects running linux/beowulf?
>
> Jon, just show some intelligence, just a little, about that of an amoeba
> for example. Did you ever just *see* a really big iron?
> Did you know that you can switch off these systems partially and repair
> them if defective? Years ago I did just that, repair really big machines.
> They were *never* down unplanned.
Gee Peter - didn't you get it? Didn't you see my sarcasm?
Plus, the Unisys boxes we've run allow us to do the same things...
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:09:54 GMT
"Roberto Alsina"
> Not to mention that armed rebellion was the excuse used to kill
> those thousands. By people who really, really, liked guns.
Armed rebellion has also given rise to nations.
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