Linux-Advocacy Digest #818, Volume #34 Sun, 27 May 01 23:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: INTEL"S ITANIUM DUE OUT TUES !!!!!
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! (Philip
Nicholls)
Re: INTEL"S ITANIUM DUE OUT TUES !!!!! (cjt & trefoil)
Re: ease and convenience (Terry Porter)
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! (Terry
Porter)
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! (Terry
Porter)
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! (Terry
Porter)
Re: ease and convenience ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! (Terry
Porter)
Re: Warning to new users of Windows XP ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)")
Re: Linux dead on the desktop. (Terry Porter)
Re: The nature of competition (Terry Porter)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: INTEL"S ITANIUM DUE OUT TUES !!!!!
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 01:32:07 GMT
On Sun, 27 May 2001 21:06:01 -0400, rgs50 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yes, Sun and IBM have VLSI chips but they do not have Microsoft in back of
VLSI != VLIW. VLSI == very large scale integration. Even the 8086 qualifies
as such.
>them producing a KILLER OS ( Windows 2000 TWO or whistler or Win NT 64 ).
>There are also over 300 applications already ported to the Itanium with over
>4,000 ( four thousand ) in the process of being ported to Itanium. Also
>when the 386 was introduced it hit the market like a brick hitting a plate
>glass window and was selling at 50 % or more than the chips list price
>because there was so much demand.
>
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From: Philip Nicholls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 01:50:20 GMT
Bob Hauck wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2001 22:51:29 GMT, Chad Myers
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> With Linux, once you go off the beaten path, you're in the ghetto.
>
> You mean that /you/ are in the ghetto. The rest of us can customize
> Linux just fine.
I found myself in the ghetto more than once. I think most people who lack
serious computer experience will find themselves in the ghetto quickly,
will give up and return to windows. I did this with OpenLinux, Red Hat
6.2, Mandrake 7.0 and Mandrake 8.0. Before I got a copy of Partition
Magic, ending up in the ghetto meant reformating and reinstalling windows
98.
Finally I have reached the point where if I end up in the ghetto I can get
back out again, but then I had a copy of "Unix for People" at my side and
some previous experience with Unix and the vi editor.
What bothers me is I don't think you or others who advocate Linux have any
clear idea how scary it is to the uninitiated. Partitioning a hard drive!
Worrying about if your partition will be bootable. Dealing with x86free
when something goes wrong.
Most people never installed their operating systems in the first place.
They don't back them up, the don't defrag or unistall unused software.
Linux is not easy. You have to WANT to learn it because it does not reveal
itself to you on its own. The only thing less friendly thant C:> is $.
Too much time is wasted bashing microsoft. The did one thing, did it well
enough that people who wouldn't think of using a computer are using
computers.
--
"To ask a question, you must first know most of the answer."
- Robert Sheckley
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From: cjt & trefoil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: INTEL"S ITANIUM DUE OUT TUES !!!!!
Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:58:25 -0500
rgs50 wrote:
>
> Yes, Sun and IBM have VLSI chips
Make up your mind. Do you want to talk about VLIW or VLSI?
but they do not have Microsoft in back of
<snip>
>
> 2 + 2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9erv5h$ctg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
<snip>
> > Of course, Itanium, if successful, is the VLIW successor for both Windows
> > and Unix.
> >
> > However, both Sun and IBM have competing VLIW chips.
> >
<snip>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: ease and convenience
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 28 May 2001 01:58:54 GMT
On Sun, 27 May 2001 12:25:40 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> Again, this is amazing. You climbed the curve to learn Linux, yet you won't
> exercise one scintilla of common sense when installing hardware! Only
> (please excuse me, no offense meant. But I can't help it) a moron installs
> hardware in windows without removing the old hardware the new hardware is
> replacing first.
> Windows hardware 101. I smell a LinBigot troll ....
This is COLA, are you blind, perhaps your braile keyboard
isn't supported by Windos ?
In either event, Ubertroll, COLA exists for Linux advocates
and not Wintrolls like you.
<snip>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 28 May 2001 02:25:02 GMT
On Sun, 27 May 2001 19:02:24 GMT,
Philip Nicholls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 24 May 2001 17:47:01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad
> Everett) wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 May 2001 14:09:25 -0400, JS \\ PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>I have to say, Linux Mandrake 8 was looking real damn good. Support for all
>>>my hardware (for once) easy set-up, even seting up networking and connection
>>>sharing was painless. Good newsreader - Knode, pretty stable OS. I even
>>>liked the fact that it stayed connected to the Internet when switching users
>>>(unlike Win2K) I was actually contemplating using it much more often and
>>>only using Windows for apps I need to use that aren't available on Linux.
>>>But....
>>>Well after half a day checking out the new XP OS, I have to say IT KICKS
>>>MANDRAKE ASS!!
>>>
>>
>>Can I setup Windows XP at home so that I can log into it via ssh and have
>>a server running that acts as a proxy web browser, allowing me to
>>browse the web from my machine at work over an encrypted channel and
>>bypassing the filters on my company's firewall? And do all this with
>>out-of-the-box free software?
>
> Can the average Joe or Jane off the street do this with your free
> software?
The average Joe can't even ugreade Win95 to Win98!
> Would the average Joe or Jane off the street even WANT to
> do any of this?
If they knew they could, then yes, they may.
>
> The will, however, be able to install, configure and use Windows XP.
Thats debatable, it has NOT been shown that WinXP has even been accepted
in the marketplace yet. Here in Australia, it's not even for sale
to the average Joe at this time.
>
>
>>Can I use Windows XP to redirect it's output over an encrypted network
>>port so that I can run applications on my home machine from my machine
>>at work, complete with GUI features? And do all this with out-of-the-box
>>free software?
>
> Again, I don't think Windows XP is targetting people who would want to
> do this. Do you?
There are may people who want to do this, your lack of imagination is
your limitation.
>
>
>>Can I use Windows XP as a NAT server and firewall and allow the machines
>>on my LAN to all share a single internet connection? And do all this with
>>out-of-the-box free software?
>>
>>Can I use Windows XP as a software development platform with the software
>>that it comes with, without the need to purchase additional software for
>>lots of money?
>>
>>I can do all this and more with linux, for free.
>
> Bully for you.
A non-statement.
> And how many other people on your block have the
> technical expertise to do all this?
How many don't ?
>
> I'll tell you a secret. Most of them don't, most of them don't CARE.
Another Windos mindreader and clairvoyant, its definetly some chemical in
the EULA wrapper!
> Windows XP caters to them.
Microsoft is in the food and hospitality area now ?
;-)
>
>>With Windows XP, I'll even need to buy additional software to create
>>professional documents, presentations, spreadsheets, and databases.
>>I can do all this with Linux with out-of-the-box software.
>
> Again, bully for you.
Non statement #2.
> How many people on your block are able to do
> this.
How many are not ?
>
>
>>....Oh...but I forgot.....now you can log in and log out of Windows XP
>>and not kill your internet connection. Wow!
>
> Most people who need to use computers for work or school have lives
> outside of computers.
So do Linux users, and we like to maximise that time, unlike you, who is
content to have endless re boots, re-installs, virii, and constant payment$
to Microsoft.
> Windows XP caters to them.
More food statements.
>
> So your an alpha geek.
Insults.
> Bully for you.
Non statement #3.
> Most people aren't.
Clairvoyance.
> Are you
> saying they shouldn't use computers?
Nope, he isnt.
> If microsoft has found that
> some peple are willing to pay a few hundred bucks for computer
> software
This is changing, as Microsoft is unsatiable money wise.
> that will install and be usable without a MS in computer
> science, can you blame them?
In many cases Windows software installs without problems,
but when it fails to install properly, these people are in big
trouble, and its an EXPEN$IVE trip to the local computer shop.
These fictitious people you keep mentioning, would not have a
computer unless it came pre-installed with an OS.
The reason theyre using a Microsoft OS, was discovered by
the Department of Justice, and resulted in Microsoft being
found *guilty* of breaching the Sherman Antitrust Act.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 28 May 2001 02:33:21 GMT
On Sun, 27 May 2001 22:54:55 GMT,
Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "David Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9erli9$ofc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> It's amazing how close you can come to making Windows into a professional
>> system when you download a whole lot of ports of free unix software. But by
>> the time you have got Cygwin (for bash, and common unix utilities), tcl/tk,
>> perl, python, gcc, php, apache, mysql, ntemacs, X (from Cygwin - not great,
>> but getting there), cdrecord, ln (so that you can actually use NTFS hard
>> links), etc., why not just go the whole hog and install Linux?
>
> Well, if you're going to use most of that crap, then you might as well.
Its all that you had to offer when questioned regarding Windows free
applications of any use.
> However, if you like to USE your OS, rather than be used by your OS, you
> can get all that software without having to struggle with just the simple
> usability of your software.
>
> Most of the stuff you mentioned has better alternatives in Windows
> (like cmd.exe instead of bash, IIS instead of apache, ASP instead of PHP,
^^^ this is free now ?
> Windows instead of X,
Windows has no remote GUI.
> jesus christ, etc) so you wouldn't need to download
> most of it.
>
>> Haven't you noticed that the only reason you have anything to reply with in
>> these posts is that open source developers have ported unix programs to
>> Windows?
All of COLA noticed, but Chad Myers is a Wintroll, he would never admit it.
>
> Because he only mentioned a very tiny selection of functionality used by
> less than one percent of one percent of the computer-using population.
Only in your mind Chad.
>
> If he listed any of the functionality that the vast majority of users use,
> Linux wouldn't show up near the radar.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 28 May 2001 02:34:45 GMT
On Sun, 27 May 2001 23:49:47 -0400,
Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
>>
>> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> Chad Myers wrote:
>>
>>> > > Can I use Windows XP as a software development platform with the
>> software
>>> > > that it comes with, without the need to purchase additional software
>> for
>>> > > lots of money?
>>> >
>>> > Of course.
>>>
>>> What software would that be?
>>
>> Take you pick.
>> You've C,C++, Java, vbs, javascript, html, perl, python, etc.
>>
>
> And what directory on the XP install CD would I install these from - he
> said 'Using the software it comes with' so needing to download additional
> applications (even if free) doesn't count as using the software it comes
> with.
>
>
Ayende has chosen to ignore this key point.
Naturally his coments are negated by that little ommision.
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ease and convenience
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:34:37 +1200
No, it shouldn't, in theory ask for the CD. YAST 2 only asks for it when installing
software.
As for Windows 2000, why is it when I install my proper Modem driver, it reverts back
to the generic driver when I reboot. Maybe
Microsoft should fix that problem. If I install a driver, I don't want Windows 2000
thinking for me. I installed the driver and
want it fucking loading, no being replaced by some half-assed Microsoft produced
driver.
Matthew Gardiner
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"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Mon, 28 May 2001 00:33:56 +1200
> <9eqsc9$7m8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >Real world experience.
> >
> >1.Open Case
> >2. Remove metal sleve cover
> >3. Slide PCI card in
> >4. Screw in
> >5. Power on
>
> Pedant point: isn't there something about inserting the SuSE CD
> right about here? :-)
>
> >6. Select "Linux_2.4" from menu
> >7. Login
> >8. click on lizard icon
> >9. Click on "Yast 2"
> >10. Enter Root password
> >11. Click on Network Icon
> >12. Follow the wizard.
> >
> >How is that harder than Windows?
>
> Easy. In the case of Windows, one just purchases an entire new system
> for less than US $2,000. :-)
>
> Of course, for those of us without such funds, I'd say the above
> is pretty darned easy -- and in any event, under Linux, one can
> describe precisely what modules one wants to use in various ways,
> the easiest coming to mind is editing /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules,
> depending on installation; note that *nothing else has to change*, assuming
> one hasn't also changed one's network, because everything else refers
> to the alias name in /etc/modules.conf, usually eth0. Note that
> Debian has its own ideas; one has to run update-modules after
> editing the appropriate file in /etc/modutils; this is documented
> reasonably well in /etc/modules.conf itself, and is not difficult.
>
> Under Windows, all of the "automatic" stuff can lead to
> screaming nightmares. For example, I'm no longer able to do
> anything intelligent with my Win95 installation with respect
> to downloading/DNS name resolution. I might get to work
> eventually -- but why? :-)
>
> [.sigsnip]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191 27d:14h:35m actually running Linux.
> Linux. When Microsoft isn't enough anymore.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 28 May 2001 02:39:33 GMT
On Sun, 27 May 2001 22:44:00 GMT,
Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9ervfd$rodi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Ayende Rahien wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> Chad Myers wrote:
>> >
>> >> > > Can I use Windows XP as a software development platform with the
>> > software
>> >> > > that it comes with, without the need to purchase additional software
>> > for
>> >> > > lots of money?
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course.
>> >>
>> >> What software would that be?
>> >
>> > Take you pick.
>> > You've C,C++, Java, vbs, javascript, html, perl, python, etc.
>> >
>>
>> And what directory on the XP install CD would I install these from - he
>> said 'Using the software it comes with' so needing to download additional
>> applications (even if free) doesn't count as using the software it comes
>> with.
>
> 99% of the people in this world would never use them.
Myers the clairvoyant.
> You guys chastise
> Microsoft for having too much "bloat" and crap on their CD,
Nope we critisise them for too much bloat in their *programs*.
> now you
> want them to add more?
The usual Windows CD, comes with few applications of any use.
> If they did that, you'd just criticize them
> because they didn't have the latest, or correct version, etc.
Clairvoyance.
>
> Besides, anyone using these would go out and download the latest version
> anyhow. Take Slowaris for example, the 2.7 CD I have has JDK 1.1.2
> or something rediculously old on it. I just go out and download the
> latest version anyhow. What have I gained by having it on the CD?
> Version confusion in the OS? Thank you very little.
>
> That's the great thing about Windows, there is so much software available
> for free or for purchase that you never have to worry about such things
Windows 'free' software (native and not ported GNU) is usually of poor
quality and bug ridden.
>
> Linux has to throw in the kitchen sink just to get the geek MS-haters
> to use it.
Linux has all the tools and all the apps for free, try and get over it.
>
> Pretty sad, really.
You're the sad one Myers, locked into an OS whose end is closer than
your clairvoyance allows you to know.
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Warning to new users of Windows XP
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:37:47 +1200
I have yet to be humoured by Chad antic's yet. Maybe I have struck a cord and he is
thinking about it.
Matthew Gardiner
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"Peter Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 23 May 2001 14:05:25 +1200, "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Ok, I am not a conspiracy theorist but here is my spin in it.
> >
> > Hypothetically, when Windows XP nobody gives a shit about WPA, and the
> > majority of end lusers buy it. Now there are two senarios that will happen:
> >
> > 1. This OS will probably hang around for 18 months to two years depending on
> > the progress of .net. During the time they will be be giving activation
> > codes for those who install Windows XP v1.0, however, what is going to
> > happen after Windows XP v2.0 is released? will Microsoft continue to give
> > out activation codes for Windows XP 1.0? or will they just say to Joe Shmo
> > that because he upgraded a significant portition of his hardware, and that
> > Microsoft no longer supports, aka give out activation codes for it, he will
> > have to upgrade to Windows XP 2.0. I can honestly see it happening.
>
> This is tantamount to theft, or perhaps "inverted piracy".
>
> But yes, I agree they could well try it on, because who is going to stand up
> to them, certainly not the present US administration.
>
> Alternatively they'll say "Give us your credit card number. Every month
> we'll debit it $20, and send an authorisation code direct to your machine.
>
> Windows XP V2 will be subscription based.
>
> Peter
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:39:12 +1200
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Matthew Gardiner (BOFH) in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun, 27 May
> [...]
> >If I was a US citizen, I would be happy that there are African Americans,
> >because if there weren't, you would have a whole country like Utah, filled
> >with boring white people, listening to blue grass music whilst going from
> >door to door "preaching" about god.
>
> Amen!
>
> >What do the Americans have has a challenge when their teams go over seas?
> >for a country that is that is older than New Zealand, they don't have much
> >in the way of culture, unless you include hamburgers and Elvis as "culture".
>
> Well, we may have the WB, but we have Robert Maplethorpe, too. ;-D
>
> [...]
Who is Robert Maplethorpe when he isn't at home?
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:41:47 +1200
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said ~¿~ in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 24 May 2001 12:24:15 GMT;
> >"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:9ei5rg$hm7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > 14 to 16 MB's of memory? You have one of the most F'd up Office
> >> > configurations imaginable, or your normal.dot is 10MB's strong. No, I
> >> doubt
> >> > that as I don't think you can code with VBA.
> >> > Winword, the executable name for Word, is running on right now on this
> >pc.
> >> > MS Outlook Express, which you love to hate but love to use, as you did
> >to
> >> > make this post,
> >>
> >> Get a life "~¿~" , or better know as, Mr "I'm too chicken to use my real
> >> name".
> >
> >I love how you clipped out the relevant part of my post -- the part about
> >your assertions of gross memory usage of the MS product vs. the other word
> >processors. Typical ad hominem low brow retort.
>
> His response included the relevant part, in my opinion. Yours is the ad
> hominem retort, low brow.
>
> >My posts here average one a day. Your average is ???? Who is in need of this
> >'life' you speak of?
>
> You don't even know what an ad hominem attack is, do you???
>
> >Trying to divert attention away from the fact that you have once again
> >squarely driven your foot in your mouth by making claims you can't back up
> >with facts is only surpassed by the way you turn to juvenile attacks when
> >caught doing so. Besides, your the type of guy that I have zero fear of.
>
> What was that claim again? That Office uses 14 MB of memory? How has
> that been disproved with your ignorant protestations?
>
> BTW, "you are" = "you're", not "your".
>
Remember, you must feel sorry for him, ~¿~, he went through the US education system.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 28 May 2001 02:52:25 GMT
On Sun, 27 May 2001 23:19:07 +1200,
Matthew Gardiner \(BOFH\) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What a Ubermoron, hes not scared of a Kiwi, hahahahahahaahh!
>>
>> They'll hold ya up in the air by the skull (using only one hand), while
> they
>> bite ya feet off, you twit.
>>
>> In one classic battle with the English, the Maori warriors, went and
> re-loaded
>> the guns of the dying soldiers, cause the battle wasn't lasting long
> enough!
>
> If I was a US citizen, I would be happy that there are African Americans,
> because if there weren't, you would have a whole country like Utah, filled
> with boring white people, listening to blue grass music whilst going from
> door to door "preaching" about god.
Hahaha, I feel the same way about Indiginous Australians :)
>
> What do the Americans have has a challenge when their teams go over seas?
> for a country that is that is older than New Zealand, they don't have much
> in the way of culture, unless you include hamburgers and Elvis as "culture".
True, but I must say, I've always liked Americans.
>
> I have a feeling ubertrol is just one of those people. A person who lacks
> style, culture and maturity maturity.
Nahh ;-)
> So that I don't have to hear his TPT
> responses, I've just kill filed him.
You won't miss anything.
> Not because I disagree with his
> responses, but because not one of his posts get into the nitty-gritty
> details of Windows vs. Linux.
I've read Ubermorons posts for years, since about 1997, when he posted to
COLA the usual Linux new user problems. Oddly nothing seemed to help
and within a few months he 'became' an overt Wintroll. Flatfish had a
similar beginning...
> All he gives in superficial responses based
> on no technical knowledge what so ever.
In other words ... a Wintroll.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
>
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>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: The nature of competition
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 28 May 2001 02:59:04 GMT
On Sun, 27 May 2001 14:35:39 -0700,
Paolo Ciambotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "drsquare"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 May 2001 21:18:47 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>> ("Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>>
>>>I shoulda stayed with the ad hominem reply, it was funnier.
>>
>> What was it?
>
> I forgot the specifics, but anyway it's not as funny sober as I thought it
> was the other night. Hell, **everything's** funnier after a few pints of
> Terminator stout. Even MSFT products can be entertaining after a
> sufficient quantity of intoxicating beverages. Too bad my boss won't let
> me come to work snockered. Like him.
**************** THAT DOES IT PAOLO!!! ********************
I herby appoint you funniest poster on COLA, this month. Again!
Hahahahaahahahahahahah LOL!
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