Linux-Advocacy Digest #835, Volume #33 Mon, 23 Apr 01 16:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Chad Everett)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Nils Zonneveld)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:07:34 -0400
Bud Frawley wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:40:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > Bud Frawley wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:08:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > > > Bud Frawley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 23 Apr 2001 11:52:21 -0500, Chad Everett said...
> > > > > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:58:14 -0500, Bud Frawley
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > >On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:52:42 GMT, John Jones said...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> "Bud Frawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > >>
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > >> > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:44:01 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > > > > > >> > > Bud Frawley wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:13:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> > > > > > >> > > > > MH wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > >> > > > > > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating
> > > > > > >> idiot.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for
>equal
> > > > > > >> work is a
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > self
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid
>the
> > > > > > >> same as a
> > > > > > >> > > > > > man
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > LOL.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > J
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal
> > > > > > >> pay.
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming
>in
> > > > > > >> early,
> > > > > > >> > > > > or staying late, as needed. Or going out of town on a business
>trip
> > > > > > >> > > > > on short notice....or transferring half way across the country
>(or
> > > > > > >> > > > > even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL AVERAGE
>for
> > > > > > >> > > > > women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go to the
> > > > > > >> > > > > same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > LOL!!!!! I guess you just proved your not a manager! when my
>cousin
> > > > > > >> got
> > > > > > >> > > > promotyed to manager in his company he showed me the pay list!
>there
> > > > > > >> was
> > > > > > >> > > > 2 different pays 1 for men 1 for women! men got paid $13.00 an
>hour
> > > > > > >> when
> > > > > > >> > > > women got paid $9.00 an hour for the same shift! I told him it's
>not
> > > > > > >> fair
> > > > > > >> > > > and they should pay the same so he filed an greavence. they said
>no
> > > > > > >> way.
> > > > > > >> > > > he quit that job in a hurry! I bet they stop laughing when I call
>feds
> > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > >> > > > this one! they offered him mney to keep quiet but I said no way
>I'm
> > > > > > >> > > > keepiung quiet! this is gonna hit the papers when I start talking!
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Men show up for work more reliably.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > LOL!!!! ya right! I left out the part when he showed me there time
>cards
> > > > > > >> > because I knew you'd bite! the women get there every day ON TIME! when
> > > > > > >> > somebody's show's up late it's always a man! those are statistics my
>boy!
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Do you know how much a production work stoppage costs a factory?
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > A hell of more than $4.00/hour.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > LOL! like they lower there prices when it stops! you do'nt pay for
>when
> > > > > > >> > it stops because the owner is right there! I guess you think he has to
> > > > > > >> > pay himself when it stops! LOL!!!!!
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > As long as women insist on group rights, then they will suffer
> > > > > > >> > > group penalties as well.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > By the way, who put a gun to these women's heads and FORCED them
> > > > > > >> > > to accept $9.00.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > thank's for proving your a complete moron! they either take $9.00 or
>they
> > > > > > >> > get fired! that's as bad a holding a gun to there heads if you want to
> > > > > > >> > support a family!
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > It appears that management offered $9.00/hour, and they accepted.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > I'm gonna say this one more time so take the beans outa your ears
>THAT"S
> > > > > > >> > ALL THE JOB PAYS FOR WOMEN! maybe you should go back to the dumass
>farm!
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > All this displays is that most women are exceptionally poor
> > > > > > >> > > negotiators.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > care to provide a cite? I guess not!
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > So of course, they have to get a law passed to protect them, because
> > > > > > >> > > they are so strong, and equal.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > if men were paid less then women they would pass a law so fast it
>would
> > > > > > >> > make your head spin!
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> They already did - It's the Equal Pay Act of 1963. It prohibits paying
> > > > > > >> people less for the same work becasue of their sex. Tell your cousin
>about
> > > > > > >> it.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >another republiCON moron which think's when a republiCON is in the white
> > > > > > >house all laws for equality are all enforced! I guess you did'nt read my
> > > > > > >post or you would of known they offerred him a bribe to keep quiet! I
> > > > > > >guess you think they would do that if it was legal! to bad they do'nt
> > > > > > >care! they pay less to women ! what part do'nt you understand? moron!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a lie and you know it. We're still waiting for you to tell us
> > > > > > what newspaper to look for this in when it "hits the papers".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > I guess you'll just have to wait but it'll be a LOT of them I can tell
> > > > > you that much! I hope you like egg on your face because that's what your
> > > > > gonna have! LOL!!!!!!!!! my cousin said they usually pay BIG BUCKS for a
> > > > > story like this! I have to get a lawyer first because my life is'nt gonna
> > > > > be worth a plug nickel after this one breaks!
> > > >
> > > > So you admit that you are insane.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I guess you just proved whose the biggest dumass goin! it's not me I can
> > > tell you that much!
> >
> >
> > Bud, you wrote in the paragraph above:
> > > > > I have to get a lawyer first because my life is'nt gonna
> > > > > be worth a plug nickel after this one breaks!
> >
> > Thus, you just said that you endangered your own life, for nothing better
> > than the purpose of a USENET argument.
> >
> > That, dear friends, is insane.
> >
> >
> >
> I'm willing to put my life in danger to get the truth out! this is a
> story that must be told! I guess you fat cat republiCONS do'nt care about
> the truth! to bad!
Still hasn't shown up on AP, UPI, Reuters, CNN, or MSNBC.
Why not, liar.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: 23 Apr 2001 20:07:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:59:29 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:27:01 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:04:09 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:45:58 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:35:35 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >> >> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:44:43 GMT, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work
>is a
>> >> >> >> >> >> >self
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> flagellating idiot?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >No, just any man who marries one.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> You prefer to marry women that get paid less? Why?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >less chance of divorce
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> What's the difference between being married to someone who is just
>> >> >> >> >> scared of being too poor if she/he divorces, and hiring a hooker?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Thus, you summarize that the feminists have turned marriage into
>> >> >> >> >PRECISELY what they say they detest.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Nope. Not even close. Then again, the lack of nuance in your
>> >> >> >> thought can make you see it that way.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Roberto, quit fawning over the wrapping paper and inspect the
>> >> >> >box of dog-shit that's being handed to you as if it's a present.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Aaron, why are you so scared of women?
>> >> >
>> >> >I don't fear women...I fear courts that operate by illegitimate laws.
>> >>
>> >> In what way is that law illegitimate? Was it not passed by congress?
>> >> Has the supreme court declared it inconstitutional?
>> >>
>> >> Or are you just scared?
>> >
>> >Oh, now the "you're scared" shaming ploy for refusing to put up
>> >with unjust feminazi nonsense.
>>
>> Well, let's see, apparently you find all american women so
>> scary you had to bring an alien which under the implicit
>> threat of being deported will have sex with you for as long
>> as you feed her.
>
>Wrong. I enjoy the company of American women very much.
>
>However, forming a legal association with one is hazardous
>to a man's wealth.
Well, forming an association with you can be dangerous for a womans
health.
>> >Smart men don't put their entire life's earnings at the whim of
>> >a fickle-minded, self-centered, spoiled little conceited tart,
>> >her lawyer, and the willing accomplice in a black robe.
>>
>> You know, that russian gal you brought? She has the exact
>> same rights under american law as any other gal. And sooner
>> or later she's going to find out. And half your roy rogers
>> card collection will be hers!
>
>But, she doesn't believe it is her right to run off with 1/2 of
>the wealth which I accumulated for YEARS before I ever met her.
It's not what she believes. It's what the judge says, kid.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Apr 2001 14:47:38 -0500
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:39:49 -0500, Bud Frawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:22:44 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
>> jet wrote:
>> >
>> > Bud Frawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:44:01 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
>> > > > Bud Frawley wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:13:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
>> > > > > > MH wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > > > > > > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > > > > > > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating
>> > idiot.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal
>> > work is a
>> > > > > > > > > self
>> > > > > > > > > > flagellating idiot?
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > No, just any man who marries one.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the
>> > same as a
>> > > > > > > man
>> > > > > > > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > LOL.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > J
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal
>> > pay.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming in
>> > early,
>> > > > > > or staying late, as needed. Or going out of town on a business trip
>> > > > > > on short notice....or transferring half way across the country (or
>> > > > > > even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL AVERAGE for
>> > > > > > women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go to the
>> > > > > > same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
>> > > > >
>> > > > > LOL!!!!! I guess you just proved your not a manager! when my cousin
>> > got
>> > > > > promotyed to manager in his company he showed me the pay list! there
>> > was
>> > > > > 2 different pays 1 for men 1 for women! men got paid $13.00 an hour
>> > when
>> > > > > women got paid $9.00 an hour for the same shift! I told him it's not
>> > fair
>> > > > > and they should pay the same so he filed an greavence. they said no
>> > way.
>> > > > > he quit that job in a hurry! I bet they stop laughing when I call feds
>> > on
>> > > > > this one! they offered him mney to keep quiet but I said no way I'm
>> > > > > keepiung quiet! this is gonna hit the papers when I start talking!
>> > > >
>> > > > Men show up for work more reliably.
>> > >
>> > > LOL!!!! ya right! I left out the part when he showed me there time cards
>> > > because I knew you'd bite! the women get there every day ON TIME! when
>> > > somebody's show's up late it's always a man! those are statistics my boy!
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Do you know how much a production work stoppage costs a factory?
>> > > >
>> > > > A hell of more than $4.00/hour.
>> > >
>> > > LOL! like they lower there prices when it stops! you do'nt pay for when
>> > > it stops because the owner is right there! I guess you think he has to
>> > > pay himself when it stops! LOL!!!!!
>> > > >
>> > > > As long as women insist on group rights, then they will suffer
>> > > > group penalties as well.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > By the way, who put a gun to these women's heads and FORCED them
>> > > > to accept $9.00.
>> > >
>> > > thank's for proving your a complete moron! they either take $9.00 or they
>> > > get fired! that's as bad a holding a gun to there heads if you want to
>> > > support a family!
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > It appears that management offered $9.00/hour, and they accepted.
>> > >
>> > > I'm gonna say this one more time so take the beans outa your ears THAT"S
>> > > ALL THE JOB PAYS FOR WOMEN! maybe you should go back to the dumass farm!
>> > >
>> >
>> > When did he leave?
>> >
>> > J
>>
>> Oooooooooow, ppppppppppoooor pooooooooor strong victims.
>>
>> If women are every bit as capable as men, then how come they can't
>> negotiate their pay?
>>
>>
>gawd you gotta be deaf from you ca'nt hear so well! when a woman asks for
>a raise alls they say is no way the company does'nt allow it! then what's
>she gonna do? she's luckey if they do'nt fire her on the spot! when my
>cousin owned a car dealer he tried to give his secretery a raise because
>she made more money for the company then the salesmen but he could'nt
>because company policy! his boss reamed him out for that little stunt! he
>would of fired him for sure if he did'nt just land a deal for 40 cars at
>full sticker!
If your cousin owned the company, then who told him it was against company
policy?
How did the secretaty make more money for the company than the all the
salesmen?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 23 Apr 2001 20:09:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:00:25 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> billh said:
>> >
>> >"Roberto Alsina"
>> >
>> >> >My house has over half a dozen guns, and ammunition for each,
>> >> >and I haven't been convinced that I have any "right to kill"
>> >>
>> >> Why do you have lethal weapons?
>> >> If the answer is "to defend myself", who would you be defending
>> >> yourself against?
>> >
>> >In most of the US, a citizen owns guns simply because they choose to. No
>> >other reason is required. Freedom is simply choice.
>>
>> Blah. What an empty discourse. Aaron (who I asked) already
>> gave his reasons. And they were the exact ones I guessed.
>
>I have the rights which Bill described above, for the reasons
>which I described.
So what? I asked nothing about rights.
>Bill gave you the law.
Actually, that's not the law. That's a shallow description of the law.
>I explained the reason for the law.
No, you explained the reason you had to use the right granted
by the law.
>Hope that helps, fascist moron.
Keep on thinking I am a fascist just because I want the right not
to be threatened by morons with guns?
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: Nils Zonneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:09:46 +0200
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > Like a server is most easily administrated with a commandline, an
> > everyday desktopsystem for the average user is most easily to use with a
> > GUI.
>
> False premise. Almost all routine work is made MUCH easier with
> command line tools like sed and awk.
For you maybe. But times are changed and computers are not only for
those in smug ivory towers. While awk and sed are powerful tools for
people like system administrators, they are next to useless to your
average marketing manager or other every day computer users. For most
people computers are a means not an end.
>
> > Oh BTW can you do something about that ridiculous .sig of yours, 4 lines
> > of .sig would be quite long enough.
>
> make me
>
No. I'm asking you politely.
Kind regards,
Nils Zonneveld
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