Linux-Advocacy Digest #946, Volume #33 Thu, 26 Apr 01 12:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("JoFi")
Re: Impact of Internet (Jan Vorbrueggen)
Re: Windows is a virus (Donn Miller)
Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM (Paul Hughett)
Re: Baseball (Mike)
Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product (Chad Everett)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (chrisv)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:32:30 -0400
Jerry Coffin wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> [ ... ]
>
> > > MULTICS predates UNIX. Though AT&T was one of the contributors to
> > > MULTICS, they didn't originate it. IBM had a number of multi-
> > > platform OSes prior to MULTICS anyway.
> >
> > No. IBM's OS's were always compiled against an unvarying assembly-language
> > architecture. The CPU *hardware* might change, but the microprogramming
> > in the CPU presented the assemblers with an unchanging platform.
>
> Not so -- they did a reasonably portable OS as part of the 7090
> Stretch project. When the Stretch project was cancelled, so was the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
i.e. didn't follow through.
Almost only counts in Horseshoes, Hand Grenades, and H-bombs.
> OS project even though it wasn't really tied to that particular
> hardware.
>
> [ ... ]
>
> > IBM was giving code away in the 1950's?
> >
> > Surely, you're joking, Mr. Coffin.
>
> Surely I'm not. Early on, OSes and such were not viewed as having
> any value in and of themselves -- IBM (and the Seven Dwarves) viewed
> themselves as hardware vendors. Software was simply something they
> were obliged to throw in to keep their hardware competitive. Most of
> it was written in assembly language, so it wasn't portable to any
> other hardware, so as far as the vendors cared, if you improved their
> software and distributed the improved version, you were doing them a
> favor -- it made their hardware even more attractive without costing
> them anything like it did when they made the improvements themselves.
>
> This changed primarily for two reasons: 1) eventually software
> started to be seen as a source of revenue itself, and 2)Amdahl and
> such came along and built machines that could run the same software,
> so the lack of portability no longer ensured that improvements were
> only useful to the original vendor anyway. OTOH, if you look at the
> software and the laws of the time, you'll find that most early
> mainframe OSes included source code. The copyright law (at least in
> the US) at the time said that things were NOT copyrighted unless you
> specifically claimed copyright on them. Since the source code often
> lacked a copyright notice, it was placed in the public domain.
> Therefore, IBM (as well as many of their competitors) had no legal
> grounds for stopping you from doing as you wished with the source
> code in any case.
>
> [ ... ]
>
> > > > US DARPA (Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency) TCP/IP
> > >
> > > DARPA itself mostly provided funding. The people they funded are the
> > > ones to blame for this particular mess.
> >
> > BLAME?
>
> Yes, absolutely. TCP/IP is solidly inferior to most of its
> competitors -- it has high overhead, poor scalability, lousy security
> and quite a few hard limits built in (such as 32-bit addressing).
>
> > spending too much time indulging in columbian exports, I see.
>
> Are you actually capable of discussing things for even two
> consecutive messages without using (blatantly false) personal
> attacks? If you want to extoll the virtues of TCP/IP and claim it's
> superior to the alternatives, you're a fool, but the sort of personal
> attack above brands you as both a fool and a criminal.
>
> --
> Later,
> Jerry.
>
> The Universe is a figment of its own imagination.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "JoFi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:42:21 +0200
"Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
<snip> >
> Tell me Jon,
>
> How do you achieve 5 9s *regularly* with server software that has been
> out for just over a year? Remember that 5 9s reliability is a statistical
> measure, and your sample is too small to be trustworthy.
> Once again, someone who knows virtually nothing about advanced server
> concepts can beat you on simple logic. You're not very smart are you? One
> good crash and your much-touted W2k servers are down to 4 9s *at best*.
>
> Mart
>
So your saying that 1000's of servers giving 5 9's reliability for 1-2 years
is not good enough. Whats makes you think that years 3-4 will be any
different. Do you have ANY issues which could arise in year 3 and not in
year 1 or 2?
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From: Jan Vorbrueggen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.theory,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: Impact of Internet
Date: 26 Apr 2001 17:46:08 +0200
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> World Wide Web is nothing more than web servers.
There are other URL prefixes than "http". For instance, "ftp", "wais",
"telnet", "gopher", ...
Jan
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:47:50 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows is a virus
Andy Walker wrote:
> Well doesn't Windows fit this description? When I bought my computer I got
> an unwanted piece of software called Windows98 on it and as for wilful
> damage, without including data wiped out due to BSOD, it does quite a good
> job of wiping LILO off the boot sector when you install it. I don't even
> think I need mention the deliberate attempts of Microsoft to screw up other
> software not owned by themselves such as quicktime!
And Windows multiplied like crazy, much like a virus. Plus, Windows 98
and lower could technically be a virus, because it didn't send the halt
instruction to the CPU when idle. This could cause the CPU to overheat
if your fan was clogged, and damage it. Of course, had your computer
been doing cpu-intensive tasks on Linux when the fan was clogged, your
CPU would've overheated there as well. I found this out when I used to
dual-boot between FreeBSD and Windows. If I rebooted after running
Windows, I would hear this repetitive beeping sound, which meant that
the BIOS was preventing my computer from booting because the CPU had
overheated. This would never happen if I rebooted after running FreeBSD
for some time.
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From: Paul Hughett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
gnu.emacs.help,alt.religions.vim,alt.religion.emacs,fj.editor.vi,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM
Date: 26 Apr 2001 15:49:39 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: magnetic disks are for weenies.
: real men use punch cards.
And use a bowie knife to cut the holes; you just have to be careful
not to cut yourself when you square off the corners.
Paul Hughett
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From: Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:50:06 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (jim dutton) wrote:
>-Jeem, Look Chris---------><blink><bold><font size=10billion><ul>""SARCASM"".
LOL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 26 Apr 2001 10:30:18 -0500
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:02:44 +0200, JoFi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"JS PL" <hi everybody!> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
><snip>
>> > > Hint: I already tried it and I *can* burn CD's as a "user" with
>default
>> > > user settings. I didn't do anything except install the CDRWin
>software,
>> > > create a new user, log in as that user and burn a CD.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Then your setup is insecure. Do you have Win2K installed on a FAT32
>> > partition, by chance?
>>
>> Here's an idea...shut the fuck up quit trying to grasp at straws. It's an
>> NTSF file system, your just plain_fucking_wrong about the Win2K burning
>> issue / FUD! End of discussion.
>>
>>
>
>Exactly. Just another anti-MS zealot spouting as many lies as they can in
>the hope that someone will think its true without actually verifying.
>
>BTW I can burn on W2k as a normal user. *shock* ;-)
>
Please enlighten us on what you did to allow normal users to burn CDs
on W2K. You probably went out a bought a $50.00+ program for this
purpose. You could've used that money to buy an entire OS plus
gads of applications, plus apps that will allow normal users to
burn CDs SECURELY.
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From: chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:03:48 GMT
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So you're saying that because he's gay, he't turn other people gay, but
>you would never do something similar because you're not.
He made a stupid statement and I said so. Having a desire or
motivation for wanting others to be like you is NOT analogous to
drugging someone so you can rape them. Get it, genius?
>You are a plain stupid bigot.
No, you're just a little crybaby who thinks he can toss that word
around just because your a member of a minority group.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:05:07 -0400
BrendaLee wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >
> > Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> > >>
> > Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> > >> >>
> > Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> > >> >> >>
> > Aaron> Brent R wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> > Modern feminism decries "the patriarchy", and then whines for
> > >> >> >> >> > it to come back and clean up her diapers, because she still hasn't
> > >> >> >> >> > learned to shit in the toilet.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Jesus man, do you really have to be that crude?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Be careful Aaron, not all women are like that, I wouldn't even say
>the
> > >> >> >>
> > Aaron> I wasn't referring to "all women" is was referring to that body
> > Aaron> known as "feminism"
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> No, you are talking about a tiny minority of those women who
> > >> >> >> self-identify as feminist. For most women that means that women
> > >> >> >> have equal rights as men. Not the lunatic fringe that declare
> > >> >> >> all heterosexual sex is rape.
> > >> >>
> > Aaron> Thank you for agreeing with me.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> So you think most women that call themselves feminists
> > >> >> are not really feminists?
> > >>
> > Aaron> Most American women who don't even call themselves feminists have a
>SEVERE
> > Aaron> "women should be able to take anything a man has, and give nothing
> > Aaron> in return" attitude.
> >
> > Aaron> Those who do call themselves feminist advocate the use of kangaroo
> > Aaron> courts to accomplish it.
> >
> > >> You did not answer my questions.
> >
> > >> I am sorry your experience of American women has
> > >> been so poor.
> >
> > Aaron> Actually, my own PERSONAL experience has been ok. However, one does
> > Aaron> not need to personally experience divorce, etc. to know how badly the
> > Aaron> guys get shafted....all you need to do is pay attention to what is
> > Aaron> happening to all of the other men around you.
> >
> > I do. I have personally seen no bad cases. All the divorces
> > I personally know about were settled on child support, not
> > alimony. And in the cases where the woman was the larger breadwinner
> > and joint or paternal custody, the woman paid the child support.
>
> Just because you have never seen one does not mean they don't
> exist. For instance, my stepfather got divorced from his first
> wife. I have no idea what she said to that judge but he was taken
> for the ride of his life. Literally. He was forced to pay her
> 'alimony' for the ''rest of her life''. It was garnisheed from his
> wages automatically every week. On top of child support. And twice
> that I know of he went to court and pleaded that he had another
> family and could they lower it and he was told by the judge to
> *get another job*.
This is why feminism is supported by the politicians. It's a
convenient excuse to burden other men with overwhelming obligations,
which truly never give the woman as much financial footing as if
she had stayed in the marriage, while hypocritically playing the
role of "protector"
Thus, not only is the man burdened, but his children are dumped
into squalor.
It increases the male politicians' power against other adult men,
and it increases the politicians' childrens advantages with respect
to other children.
Any women who *actually* benefit from any of this are few and
far between.
>
> I am sure this in not the norm, but it can, and did happen. And I
> witnessed it with my own eyes. I do believe nowadays there is a
> two-year-get-back-on-your-feet helping out period or something
> similar in certain cases.... At least that is what I have heard.
Actually, Brenda, what happened to your father is the usual case.
>
> BrendaLee
> >
> > >> I personally know no women that are at all like
> > >> the ones you seem to think are most American women.
> >
> > Aaron> You must live in a cave.
> >
> > Nope, but perhaps I hang with a better crowd than you do.
> >
> > >> I have read about some, so I do know they exist. However
> > >> based on personal experience I conclude that they are rare.
> >
> > Aaron> Come out of your cave, ahole...
> >
> > Hang with a better crowd.
> >
> > (assuming you have any friends in the first place).
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Hall
> > (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
>
> --
> BrendaLee
> Lady DreamCatcher
> --------------------
> http://www.cocreator.com/ehmka/
> -------------------------------------
>
> brendalee makes the world better by her presence in it.
>
> ~~jackie 'anakin' tokeman~~
>
> when you dance with an angel the angel don't change the angel
> changes you
> ~~jackie 'anakin' tokeman~~
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:05:39 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>
> Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >>
> Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >> >>
> Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >> >> >>
> Aaron> Brent R wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Modern feminism decries "the patriarchy", and then whines for
> >> >> >> >> > it to come back and clean up her diapers, because she still hasn't
> >> >> >> >> > learned to shit in the toilet.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Jesus man, do you really have to be that crude?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Be careful Aaron, not all women are like that, I wouldn't even say the
> >> >> >>
> Aaron> I wasn't referring to "all women" is was referring to that body
> Aaron> known as "feminism"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> No, you are talking about a tiny minority of those women who
> >> >> >> self-identify as feminist. For most women that means that women
> >> >> >> have equal rights as men. Not the lunatic fringe that declare
> >> >> >> all heterosexual sex is rape.
> >> >>
> Aaron> Thank you for agreeing with me.
> >> >>
> >> >> So you think most women that call themselves feminists
> >> >> are not really feminists?
> >>
> Aaron> Most American women who don't even call themselves feminists have a SEVERE
> Aaron> "women should be able to take anything a man has, and give nothing
> Aaron> in return" attitude.
>
> Aaron> Those who do call themselves feminist advocate the use of kangaroo
> Aaron> courts to accomplish it.
>
> >> You did not answer my questions.
>
> >> I am sorry your experience of American women has
> >> been so poor.
>
> Aaron> Actually, my own PERSONAL experience has been ok. However, one does
> Aaron> not need to personally experience divorce, etc. to know how badly the
> Aaron> guys get shafted....all you need to do is pay attention to what is
> Aaron> happening to all of the other men around you.
>
> I do. I have personally seen no bad cases.
Ignorance is not victory.
Hope that helps.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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