Linux-Advocacy Digest #991, Volume #33 Fri, 27 Apr 01 11:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities -- child support from...non-fathers.
(chrisv)
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (T. Max Devlin)
Re: What percentage of open-source programmers are paid for working on open-source
projects? (At150bogomips)
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. (Sky King)
Re: Unwelcome changes in Linux advocacy. (Chad Everett)
Re: Quicken for Linux??? (Neil Cerutti)
Re: Communism (Mathew)
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. (Donovan Rebbechi)
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From: chrisv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities -- child support
from...non-fathers.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:22:36 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The Massachusettes case is not the exception...it's the rule...
>in fact, an iron clad rule.
>
>Currently, Ohio is **CONSIDERING** a law that would relieve a man
>of FURTHER child support payments if he shows that the child is not
>his...and this bill is the center of EXTREMELY spirited debate.
>The feminist groups are fighting it tooth and nail (basically,
>their position is "who cares if the mother FRAUDULENTLY named
>the wrong men....he should suck it up and deal with it, because,
>don't you know....MOMMY NEEDS THE MONEY....and how dare a man
>question a woman's privilege to stick her hands in his wallet"
On this a agree with you 100%. Preposterous. If I didn't know it to
be true, I'd say "no frigging way." But it is true.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.men
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:21:54 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>>>> Donovan Rebbechi writes:
>
> Donovan> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:20:45 -0700, jet wrote:
> >>
> >> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >>> >
> >>> > >> And I was under the impression in the cases of questionable
> >>> > >> paternity that a DNA sample could be demanded.
> >>> >
> >>> > Aaron> Nope. Paternity is still judged on English common law:
> >> whoever
> >>> > Aaron> the mother CLAIMS is the father *IS* the father, until proven
> >>> > Aaron> otherwise.
> >>> >
> >>> > Can you cite a single state that has a law like this?
> >>>
> >>> Common law doesn't have cites, you idiot.
> >>
> >> You're the idiot. You were asked to name a state that has a law like that.
> >> Can you?
>
> Donovan> It's common law, and it's applicable in all states. Hint: type
> Donovan> "presumption of paternity" into google. Or try "Mansfield
> Donovan> rule". Allow me to assist you ...
>
> http> www.peak.org/~jedwards/paternity.html
> Donovan> ====
> Donovan> Presumption of paternity To make things simple, individual
> Donovan> states have developed a set of circumstances or tests that,
> Donovan> if met, automatically presumes paternity. The most common
> Donovan> circumstance is known as the Mansfield Rule. Basically,
> Donovan> this rule states that if a child is conceived within
> Donovan> marriage, the husband is presumed to be the father. Since
> Donovan> this presumption is not always true, some states have
> Donovan> introduced "milkman" legislation to challenge or rebut this
> Donovan> presumption.
> Donovan> ====
>
> The issue is not the presumption, but rather the right of the alleged
> father to dispute the presumption via a DNA test.
>
> Mr. Kulkis has claimed that no state allows that without the mother's
> permission. I do not believe him.
Ohio is currently DEBATING whether the mother should be allowed to
block the gathering of such evidence....and this is considered to
be *EXTREMELY* radical, reactionary, and anti-women.
No other state is even discussing it.
Hope that helps, fascist prick.
>
> --
> Andrew Hall
> (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.men
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:24:09 -0400
chrisv wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> Aaron, you are a kook, but you do make some good points.
> >
> >So was Einstein.
>
> Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, and you're no Einstein.
>
> Hope that helps.
Care to discuss the quantum dynamic behavior of semiconductor devices?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:26:36 GMT
Said David Brown in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:23:29
>Eric Remy wrote in message ...
>>In article <9c18fc$lkb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "David Brown"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>Still doesn't. The Greeks knew the Earth was round. Eratosthenes got
>>>>the circumference to within 15% of the actual value.
>>>>
>>>>Ironically, a set of experts convened by King Ferdinand turned Columbus
>>>>down since they knew by Eratosthenes's measurements that he couldn't
>>>>possibly make it to India. Columbus didn't believe the measurement and
>>>>made his own, incorrect one. Had North America not existed he would
>>>>have died.
>>>
>>>Columbus knew perfectly well that the earth was round, and what its
>>>circumference was (at least to the same 15% accuracy as Eratosthenes).
>>
>>That's actually somewhat unclear. When he presented his proposal, he
>>used an estimate that he had derived from some measurements that Ptolemy
>>made that had some flaws in them.
>>
>>The question comes: did he misstate the distance intentionally to get
>>the trip approved or was he just mistake prone? The fact that he named
>>the natives "Indians" seems to indicate the latter.
>
>I really don't know enough details to be confident one way or the other. I
>am reasonably convinced that he knew where he was going before leaving
>(either he was very stupid and very lucky, or he was smart and a little
>lucky - I'm inclined to believe the later). As for naming the "Indians" and
>the "West Indies" - I don't know whether it was Columbus or someone else,
>and even if Columbus did name them, I don't know whether this was based on
>who he thought they were, or who his benifactors thought they were. I would
>also guess Columbus had been to India, and would be able to tell the
>difference between Indians and "Indians".
It seems to me that this theory may be interesting, even intriguing, but
it is stretched to the breaking point by casual observation. He was
smart (but not omniscient) and lucky (because he did think he could make
it to India), most likely.
[...]
>I know, but I was only considering European voyages. Europeans have a long
>history of ignoring and forgetting knowledge from other cultures.
Yea, and this doesn't happen with other cultures, of course. Guffaw.
>Just look
>at how much Roman technology was forgotten until the last couple of hundred
>years - and that *was* a European culture.
That was the Dark Ages, not cultural imperialism.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:26:37 GMT
Said Mike Billups in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:02:34
>[...]Also contrary to popular belief, being a
>monopoly is not illegal, and this is not the basis of the DOJ case. I have to
>wonder if you really know what the trial is about. Microsoft was brought to
>trial because it used its monopoly position as leverage against its
>competitors. [...]
Speaking of "popular belief"....
I agreed with most of your comments, Mike. But you hit one of my
buttons here. In point of fact, it is a felony to "monopolize or
attempt to monopolize". Any quibbling about whether this includes
"having a monopoly" is strictly within the realm of popular belief,
because the law, the lawyers, and the judges are not as confused on this
point. It does.
Microsoft was convicted of having a monopoly on PC OSes. The evidence
provided in the prosecutions argument was their use of monopoly power in
one market (PC OSes) to attempt to gain monopoly in another (web
browsers), thereby proving they have a monopoly in PC OSes. (If you
don't have monopoly power, you cannot attempt to use it, thus the
popular misconception that it is the use, not the monopoly power, which
is illegal. Again, the distinction only shows up in idiomatic English;
in legalese the concepts are more clear cut. Unfortunately, those clear
cut issues, when translated by reading back into idiomatic English,
simply become more 'per se' rules about how "using" monopoly power is
illegal, or how it is possible to gain monopoly power through
competitive efforts (e.g. the "superior product, business acumen, or
accident of history" "test".)
They were also convicted of attempting to monopolize <the web browser
market through predatory pricing> and restraint of trade <OEM lock-in>
while being acquitted on one charge of attempting to monopolize <the web
browser market through exclusive contracts, engrossing>
Monopoly was brought to trial because they monopolized and restrained
trade in a huge number of ways. They were *convicted* because they
attempted to leverage a monopoly against their competitors, and this and
other actions and strategies were presented (and not refuted) as
evidence.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (At150bogomips)
Date: 27 Apr 2001 14:35:25 GMT
Subject: Re: What percentage of open-source programmers are paid for working on
open-source projects?
WRT open-source programming for pay vs. programming for the love of
programming, it depends on the nature of the application. PERL came from a
business demand and many sysadmin and programming tools would likewise come
from the (good) laziness of employees. Open-source games probably come more
from personal itch ("it sure would be fun to be able to play ___ on my
computer" vs. "there must be an easier way to do my job"). In neither case is
pay explicitly directed to the programming effort. In both cases the employer
benefits (games--> less stressed employee, more creative employee (diversion of
attention increases creativity); admin tools--> less stressed employee, more
employee time for other activities).
My guess would be that only a small percentage of open-source efforts are
explicitly funded with business goals (though that may be changing).
WRT 'the love of programming,' even explicitly paid efforts are usually for the
love of programming. People who program only for monetary pay are likely to be
poor programmers (aside from being less concerned about program aesthetics--the
money-motivated programmer tends to concentrate on minimally satisfying a
specification, the for-love programmer seeks artistic satisfaction). OTOH,
unless the artistic programmer is constrained by time (i.e., must work full
time on other matters or must complete the project so it can be used), the
artistic programmer can be vulnerable to baroque implementation.
Paul A. Clayton
Just a former McD.'s grill worker and technophile
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From: Sky King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:43:44 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:20:45 -0700, jet wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >> >
> >> > >> And I was under the impression in the cases of questionable
> >> > >> paternity that a DNA sample could be demanded.
> >> >
> >> > Aaron> Nope. Paternity is still judged on English common law:
> > whoever
> >> > Aaron> the mother CLAIMS is the father *IS* the father, until proven
> >> > Aaron> otherwise.
> >> >
> >> > Can you cite a single state that has a law like this?
> >>
> >> Common law doesn't have cites, you idiot.
> >
> > You're the idiot. You were asked to name a state that has a law like that.
> > Can you?
>
> It's common law, and it's applicable in all states. Hint: type
> "presumption of paternity" into google. Or try "Mansfield
> rule". Allow me to assist you ...
>
> http://www.peak.org/~jedwards/paternity.html
> ====
> Presumption of paternity To make things simple, individual
> states have developed a set of circumstances or tests that,
> if met, automatically presumes paternity. The most common
> circumstance is known as the Mansfield Rule. Basically,
> this rule states that if a child is conceived within
> marriage, the husband is presumed to be the father. Since
> this presumption is not always true, some states have
> introduced "milkman" legislation to challenge or rebut this
> presumption.
> ====
>
>
CHAPTER 15-8
Uniform Law on Paternity
SECTION 15-8-3
§ 15-8-3 Presumption of paternity. – (a) A man is presumed to be the
natural father of a
child if:
(1) He and the child's natural mother are or have been married to
each other and the child
is born during the marriage, or within three hundred (300) days after
the marriage is
terminated by death, annulment, declaration of invalidity, or divorce,
or after a decree of
separation is entered by a court;
(2) Before the child's birth, he and the child's natural mother have
attempted to marry each
other by a marriage solemnized in apparent compliance with law, although
the attempted
marriage is or could be declared invalid, and:
(I) If the attempted marriage could be declared invalid only by a
court, the child is born
during the attempted marriage, or within three hundred (300) days after
its termination by
death, annulment, declaration of invalidity, or divorce; or
(ii) If the attempted marriage is invalid without a court order, the
child is born within three
hundred (300) days after the termination of cohabitation;
(3) After the child's birth, he and the child's natural mother have
married, or attempted to
marry, each other by a marriage solemnized in apparent compliance with
law, although the
attempted marriage could be declared invalid; and:
(I) He has acknowledged his paternity of the child in writing filed
with the clerk of the
family court; or
(ii) With his consent, he is named as the child's father on the
child's birth certificate; or
(iii) He is obligated to support the child under a written voluntary
promise or by court
order;
(4) He acknowledges his paternity of the child in a writing filed
with the clerk of the
family court, who shall promptly inform the mother of the filing of the
acknowledgement, and
she does not dispute the acknowledgement, within a reasonable time after
being informed of
it, in a writing filed with the clerk of the family court. If another
man is presumed under this
section to be the child's father, acknowledgement may be effected only
with the written
consent of the presumed father or after the presumption has been
rebutted. The written
acknowledgement of paternity shall be admissible as evidence of
paternity; or
(5) He has submitted to blood testing and the results establish a
conclusive presumption in
accordance with § 15-8-11(e).
(6) A sworn acknowledgment of paternity of a child born out of
wedlock is signed by both
parents on forms prescribed in accordance with § 23-3-9 either at the
department of human
services or division of taxation within the department of
administration, and is forwarded to
the state registrar of vital records for the purpose of amending the
birth certificate. Before
signing the sworn acknowledgment of paternity, the parents shall be
given written notice of
their respective rights and responsibilities. The sworn acknowledgment
of paternity becomes
a conclusive presumption if there is no court challenge within sixty
(60) days of signing of
the acknowledgment. The only defenses which may be raised to the signing
of the
acknowledgment after sixty (60) day period are fraud, duress or mistake
of fact.
Lets start forcing women to support kids that are not theirs.
sky
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Unwelcome changes in Linux advocacy.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Apr 2001 09:18:36 -0500
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:21:35 +0100, pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>>
>> pip wrote:
>> > We are not living in the dark ages. I had hoped we had progressed in our
>> > thinking.
>>
>> And this backs your claim that punishing malefactors = "running out
>> of rational arguments against their conduct" how, exactly?
>
>The only punishment that is given is the damage to the reputation of the
>Linux community. If that is rational then I am not.
The majority of foul-mouth, insulting posters in COLA are actually
Windows users, paid by Microsoft to do so. Microsoft hopes that
by making linux advocates look as bad as possible, they can
turn others genuinely inquiring into Linux or curious about
Linux advocacy away. Just as Balmer claims that Linux is
anti-capitalist and un-American, the foul mouth, insulting
posters on COLA want to make Linux advocates look anti-social and
deviant.
Don't confuse real, actual Linux users with COLA posters. Most
professed advocates in COLA are actually Windows users....and
they know who they are.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cerutti)
Subject: Re: Quicken for Linux???
Date: 27 Apr 2001 14:47:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ace Jones posted:
>Al wrote:
>> Does any company make a Quicken like product for Linux??? This is one
>> of my must have apps.
>
>You could try gnucash, www.gnucash.org. I just downloaded the
>sources tonite, so I don't know how well it works (if at all!)
I use it for my personal finances, but the version I've got,
according to the developers, is not yet for those with important
work to do. It's for those that don't mind testing a new product.
I've had no problems, but I only do simple stuff with it.
The May 2001 issue of Linux Journal has an article on the Gnucash
project that you may find interesting.
--
Neil Cerutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*** Your offworld investment in artificial dumbness paid $200 in
dividends. ***
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Crossposted-To:
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
From: Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:52:39 +1000
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> theRadical wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:28:55 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >theRadical wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:50:03 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >theRadical wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:31:15 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >theRadical wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:06:25 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >the Democratic Party is a bunch of Marxists, who, knowing that using
> > >> >> >> >the name Communists would be bad PR, engage in a campaign of deception
> > >> >> >> >to get the populace of the country to vote for their own enslavement.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >ANYBODY who seeks to enslave others sacrifices any claim to his own life.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >Hope that helps.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> which means soooo [sic] much coming from a fucking idiot twat such as
> > >> >> >> yourself.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Gonna come say that to my face?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> i'm still waiting for you to show up to repossess my vehicle and
> > >> >> explain your ridiculous theory that a ship captain is nothing more
> > >> >> that a paper pusher.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> when you show up, i will say that and much more, twat.
> > >> >
> > >> >Mounted bayonets at 20 paces.
> > >> >
> > >> >How about it, big boy.
> > >>
> > >> all you need is a few good bitch slaps. show up bitch.
> > >
> > >Prepare to be eviscerated.
> >
> > show up.
>
> Sure thing.
>
> >
> > >
> > >I live in Detroit.
> >
> > bfd.
>
> Are you familiar with an area known as the Cass Corridor?
>
>
> A few years ago, a guy I knew blew his head off with a shotgun
> in a parked car down here. It was a full week before anybody
> bothered to report the body to police...and that was only because
> the flies were becoming a nuisance.
And your point is?
Detroit is a shity place to live,but you love it?
>
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >come to Detroit, where the weak are killed and eaten.
> >
> > another geeky white guy drops a name and thinks that makes him tough.
>
> I live here. You don't.
> Hope that helps.
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: 27 Apr 2001 14:54:38 GMT
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:49:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>> Donovan Rebbechi writes:
>
> Donovan> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:37:17 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>> You failed to provide a single citation.
> >>
> >> How can you cite a law which doesn't exist, MORON.
>
> Donovan> While Kulkis' displays his usual manners (ie none), he is right.
> Donovan> Search the web, it's not like it's hard to find. It's common law,
> Donovan> not legislation.
>
> Donovan> OTOH, remedies to challenge paternity is (state) legislation.
>
> Name a state in which a man cannot challenge paternity with a DNA
> test.
I'm not interested in naming such a state (though my quick scan of
search engine results indicate that probably such a state exists,
moreover it may be difficult to find examples that allow this in child
support disputes though in custody disputes I've verified that several
states allow it)
I merely wanted to provide some clarity and point out that the presumption
is common law (applicable everywhere) and rebuttal clauses vary from
state to state.
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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