Linux-Hardware Digest #648, Volume #9 Sat, 13 Mar 99 12:13:35 EST
Contents:
Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Anthony Ord)
Re: Modem and PPP config??? (Andy Johnstone)
Re: HELP: K6-2 motherboard w/ Linux; Perf. compares/ PII (Jon)
Re: acessing Linux Drive from NT (Andy Johnstone)
Re: Memor too short ALi, AMDk6-2 (Andy Johnstone)
Information about HP 695C (Fagni Tiziano)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (wizard)
Re: Celeron and SMP ? (David Fox)
Re: Audiotrix Pro: anyone using this card under Linux? (steve taylor)
Re: For all you Nicrosoft lovers (David Fox)
ISDN ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Corel Linux (David Fox)
Re: Corel Linux (David Fox)
Re: How do I get my soundcard working??? (David Fox)
PC100 M726 Motherboard Red Hat 5.2 Install ("Luca Bompani")
Re: Corel Linux (James Youngman)
using mid thru joystick port w/ensoniq audiopci (Daryl Yager)
Re: Large (10 Gig) IBM DeskStar Drive (David Fox)
Re: GNOME ... ? START ME UP! (Jim Smith)
Re: Advise please re RedHat 5.2 and my install.... ("Greg Chagnon")
Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 PCI card (Andy Johnstone)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:22:46 GMT
On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:49:19 GMT, John Burton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anthony Ord wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Feb 1999 19:15:45 -0600, Xerophyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Also consider that Intel announced a product which conceivably could invade
>> >privacy.
>> >
>> >Caere and Mircosoft (Office2000) both want users to register their products
>> >or else they don't get a key code to make the product work after 20 days.
>>
>> Crack it. M$ will be laughed out of court if you bought it, then they
>> try to claim piracy. At least in this country.
>
>Perhaps, but in this country even if they didn't have a case, they could
>easily force an individual or small company into bankrupcy just through
>1) a legal suit, 2) an appeal when that suit was thrown out of court...
I am so poor I qualify for legal aid.
>to MS, spending months in the courtroom means little relative to their
>bottom line,
After a while, they'd pay me a lot of money to avoid setting a
precedent.
>to me, I'd have trouble hiring 1 lawyer for 1 day in
>court...:-(
If you have a strong case, you could try approaching the many anti-M$
people. M$ would then pay *you* to avoid setting a precedent. The
above only works when people are poor and/or unprincipled.
>John
Regards
Anthony
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| And when our worlds |
| They fall apart |
| When the walls come tumbling in |
| Though we may deserve it |
| It will be worth it - Depeche Mode |
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From: Andy Johnstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem and PPP config???
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 06:47:53 -0500
I've had this problem too. Unfortunatly i'm not having much luck finding a 56k
X2 that is NOT a Winmodem. Know where i could pick on up?
andy
Randy McLin wrote:
> First, are you using a WINMODEM? If so, give it up to charity, it's not
> going to work with Linux. WINMODEMs (per the name) implements a ton of
> funcitonality in Windows code. Nice, huh, for Microsoft and Intel, but bad
> for Linux users. If you're using one of these, you'll need to find one that
> doesn't require Windoze 95/98 for operation.
>
> Second, look at the "statserial" command via the man pages (man statserial).
> This will let you know if Linux is seeing the modem.
>
> If you need other info/links, I've got a portal site at http://www.emuse.net
> that I compiled to help me in my day-to-day work with Linux.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Randy
>
> Scott M. Ortiz wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Hello All,
> >
> >I have been trying to setup up Linux to recognize my modem, and to
> >configure a PPP connection to my ISP. I have read most of the man
> >pages, and the HOWTOs. Not much info on setting this up. I tried using
> >linuxconf, but I don't seem to get anywhere. When I say connect, its
> >just quiet. Shouldn't I hear dial tone, dialing, handshaking... I
> >don't think that Linux is recognizing my modem. Any advice about what
> >tools and utilities I should use to get this thing rolling would be
> >great.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Scott
> >
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From: Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.hardware.arch.intel
Subject: Re: HELP: K6-2 motherboard w/ Linux; Perf. compares/ PII
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 03:42:15 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 2. I read some people have trouble w/ the motherboard.
> Anyone heard of: SIS598, (same AMPTRON 9900?)
I have seen these boards having a lot of problems running at 100Mhz. If you
drop them down to 75 Mhz and set the multiplier differently, they don't
have any problems running a 400 at all. Use a 5.5 multiplier.
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From: Andy Johnstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: acessing Linux Drive from NT
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 06:57:07 -0500
Try this site, it works, kinda. You can read and copy from the Linux
partition to your NT partition, but write support is still experimental. It
runs a little slow if there are alot of files (like in /dev) but i think
thats b/c i have to use a 16-bit DLL that comes with it. As far as i know
you don't need this DLL if you have NT.
To reply remove nospam from my email address.
http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm
Andy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vibor Paravic wrote:
> I have a dual boot machine Linux/NT 4.0
>
> Under linux I can see the nt partion however I cannot see the linux
> partion under NT
>
> If I go to the disk manager it knows that the other disk is there and it
> correctly guesses the size however it does not give me access to it!!!
>
> How can I see my Linux partition under NT ... clearly I also want to
> access the data stored there....
>
> Thanks in advance : Vibor Paravic
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From: Andy Johnstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memor too short ALi, AMDk6-2
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 07:06:34 -0500
Are you using LILO? It sounds like you're dual booting, so I'm assuming
you are. Instead of hitting enter or typing linux at the lilo prompt,
try lilo mem=96. That should tell linux how much memory you have. I
can't remember if thats the exact command though, try man lilo for more
info.
Remove nospam from my email to reply to me
Andy
John Collier wrote:
> I have a funny problem Windows 95 and OS2 report
> 96 Meg of memory on my box. That agrees with BIOS.
> Linux reports 14 Meg.
>
> I am running a compiled version of 2.2.2, but have also
> used my 2.036 vanilla Redhat 5.2 kernal. and a cmpiled
> verion of it for my machine. Same thing: 14 meg. Other utilities
> report the same. Swap file use is consistent with 14 Meg.
> Any ideas? I am using a 64 bit sdram simmand a 32 bit dram simm
> in banks 1 1nd 2 of three. The 32 bit ram is a bit slow (not
> designed for 100 Mh bus.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> John Collier Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Philosophy -- U. of Newcastle Fax: +61 49 216928
> Callaghan, NSW, AUSTRALIA 2038 http://bcollier.newcastle.edu.au
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From: Fagni Tiziano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Information about HP 695C
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:20:29 +0100
Is this printer compatible with Linux? Thanks for help.
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From: wizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:19:36 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christopher Browne wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:49:49 GMT, John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> how about an entire movie? Titanic was done using linux on alphas.
> >> It put out terabytes of data. linux was used to colormatch the
> >> digital images and put together the fames that made up the movie. I
> >> wouldn't consider that usual usage. They needed computing power, they
> >> got alphas
> >
> >They also had money! They were't *too* concerned between $4000 &
> >$10,000...
> >I agree..if you have the money, go for the Alpha... (the 21264 & 21364
> >Alphas look pretty impressive...;-)
>
> It's not so much that they were price-insensitive; it's also that they
> were *space*-sensitive.
>
> Adding a couple of extra boxes to make up for IA-32 CPUs not being as
> fast may not be a big deal when the task is small. Fitting an extra
> system in my apartment might be moderately annoying, but wouldn't cost
> much.
>
> But when you start building a big "rendering farm," additional costs
> start needing to be considered:
> - The cost of the "real estate" required to house the boxes,
> - The cost of getting those boxes dropped into place, plugged in, and
> running.
Funny thing is there are many vendors offering preassembled Alpha farms. Just
drop the rack in place supply power and off you go. This is not the case with
Intel systems, at least I have not seen many advertised. The market for
performance machines is at time very sensitive to pricing considerations, since
many"farms" are Alpha powered there must be a good reason. The only reason one
could reasonable suggest is performance per dollar. Granted there may be
application were an Intel system will accel but the market doesn't seem to
support that theory.
I would also suggest that if you start to wave enough money around, pricing
become less of a concern as vendors will become very flexible to make the sale.
>
>
> Buying Intel-based boxes might *not* be more economical if you have to
> spend an extra million dollars on the land and building to house them...
> --
I really can't concieve of any situation were the size of the box is going to
make an intel sysytem more competitve. If that were so Intel would be seling
more of there super computers to the goverment. This is especially true if you
are chosing competitve systems from both manufactures. Not many intel chipsets
will allow 8MB of cache or large memory systems for that manner.
Dave
>
> Wow! Windows now can do everything using shared library DLLs, just
> like Multics did back in the 1960s! Maybe someday they'll discover
> separate processes and pipes, which came out in the 1970s!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/alpha.html>
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Celeron and SMP ?
Date: 13 Mar 1999 05:55:46 -0800
Daniele Bernardini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Another good example of this strategy is the XEON
> Do you really think that the 1MB cached one is worth 2000$?
> How much do you think they spend on the 400MHz memory? 1500$?
> You will not convince me they are doing a fair marketing.
Its better than fair, its excellent marketing!
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: steve taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Audiotrix Pro: anyone using this card under Linux?
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:05:47 -0500
Adrian R Cook wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a Mediatrix Audiotrix Pro sound card and I'm trying to get it
>
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian Cook
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yep ! I have the Audiotrix Pro working under RedHat 5.1 in a home built Cyrix
P166+.
The settings for my machine are listed below - make sure your interrupts don't
conflict !!!
(Using make xconfig)
sound :
Sound card support -y
/dev/dsp and /dev/audio support -y
MIDI interface support -y
FM synthesizer support -y
Sound Blaster-y
Generic OPL2/OPL3 FM synthesizer support-y
MediaTrix AudioTrix Pro Support-y
I/O base for SB Check from manual of the card -220
Sound Blaster IRQ Check from manual of the card - 7
Sound Blaster DMA 0,1 or 3 - 1
Sound Blaster 16bit DMA -1
APro audio I/O base-530
Apro audio IRQ -10
Apro audio DMA -1
Apro second DMA - 3
Apro MIDI I/O base -330
Apro MIDI IRQ - 5
Apro SB I/O base -220
Apro SB IRQ - 7
Apro SB DMA - 1
Audio DMA Buffer size - 65536
Additional low level drivers - n
_____________________________________________
All of the rest of the settings are -n
_____________________________________________
I forgot to mention that the above are settings made to your .config file in
/usr/src/linux (for recompiling the kernel).
After making the above changes, recompile the kernel. Install the kernel, and
make sounds !
By the way, I haven't yet got the effects processor or the RAM daughtercard, or
the
wavetable sounds to work yet.
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: For all you Nicrosoft lovers
Date: 13 Mar 1999 06:04:03 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Tremblay) writes:
> If you think that you had privacy before this, boy you live in a
> bubble. Look at cell phones, ISPs, Credit card companies, Banks.
>
> Cell phone companies can tell what block you are standing on and what
> you are saying. This info is accessible by police.
Not when the phone is off.
> ISP companies can log every email that you send out and where you
> visit on the net.
Only if you use their SMTP server and not your own.
> Credit card companies have logs of what you buy and where you buy it.
> They can sell this to other companies
This is not particularly sensitive information. You can still use
cash when necessary.
> Banks are in the same situation as credit card companies, especially
> if you have debit card access. Privacy is a nonissue. It is more of
> can you accept that this is there.
You can still achieve a good degree of privacy if you're well
informed and moderately careful.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: ISDN
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:02:31 GMT
Hi,
Has anyone connect a linux box to a workstation using an ISDN link ? I
want to get two machines talking to each other using PPP on an ISDN link.
Ethernet would be the best option I know, but I can't use it. I've had a
look at the HOWTO's and can't find anything that is of much use.
My main question is how do I setup the link ? How do I get one machine
to "dial" the other ? They will be connect directly to each other in a LAN
config.
Any pointers/info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Simon.
P.S If possible could you send me a copy of your post directly.
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Corel Linux
Date: 13 Mar 1999 06:09:50 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Pontius) writes:
> I tried switching her to a "true" ISP a few years back, (on Windows)
> but she got terribly confused with this whole thing of bringing up
> a link, and THEN doing email. Plus the link-up flashed some number
> of extra or transient windows on the screen, and she had to switch
> to the email window afterward, and it was too confusing to her.
You have to bring up the link under AOL too, don't you? I installed
diald on my mom's Linux machine to dial (and redial) on demand, and I
have Netscape pop up when she logs in, and now its easier than AOL by
god! And she never notices dropped connections. I haven't touched
the machine in eight months.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Corel Linux
Date: 13 Mar 1999 06:10:44 -0800
Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Linux does have a long way util it can pass the "mother" test, i.e. "but
> >can my mother use it?"
>
> Tsk-tsk -- age and gender discrimination in the same breath!
Your Mother May Vary...
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Subject: Re: How do I get my soundcard working???
Date: 13 Mar 1999 06:14:06 -0800
David Orlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have always set things up in
> Windows and it is always plug and play so I never need to worry about
> these things. What do I do now???
Good advice elsewhere from Cece. Remember that in Windows each piece
of hardware came with a floppy disk or CD-ROM that described that
hardware to the operating system. Linux does not have this luxery.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: "Luca Bompani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PC100 M726 Motherboard Red Hat 5.2 Install
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 15:03:49 +0100
PC Configuration:
Pentium II at 350Mhz
128MB RAM
PC100 motherboard with an Ali IDE controller
SAMSUNG VG38404A 8.4 GB HDisk (master 1)
NEC ZIP 100 (slave 1)
SAMSUNG CD-ROM SCR-3232 (master 2)
MATCHITA CD-R CW-7582 (slave 2)
NE-2000 compliant 10Mb Ethernet
Description of problem:
When I boot from the Red Hat floppy to perform a CD install, linux blocks
while probing IDE drives. I tried to disable the 2-th IDE channel and in
this way it boots but can't correctly read installation data from my HDisk.
Did anyone installed Red Hat 5.2 on a Pc with my motherboard ? How can I
resolve this problem?
Thank
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corel Linux
Date: 13 Mar 1999 12:10:47 +0000
Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Linux does have a long way util it can pass the "mother" test, i.e. "but
> >can my mother use it?"
>
> Tsk-tsk -- age and gender discrimination in the same breath!
Not at all. The test is, "can Rod Roark's mother use Linux?".
Nothing discriminatory about that. After all, I'm sure he knows his
mother quite well enough to gauge her capabilities.
--
ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+usenet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daryl Yager)
Subject: using mid thru joystick port w/ensoniq audiopci
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:29:04 GMT
Is it possible? anyone give a pointers?
Thanks!
Daryl
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Large (10 Gig) IBM DeskStar Drive
Date: 13 Mar 1999 06:17:00 -0800
Geoff Shukin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a new IBM 10 Gig EIDE drive that I can not get all 10 Gig out of
> from Linux. My Diamond Max 2500 10 gig seems to be the same.
My 16 gig IBM drives work fine on stock redhat systems, just turn *OFF*
LBA in the BIOS. Maybe the 10 gigs are different?
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: Jim Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNOME ... ? START ME UP!
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:16:39 -0600
Igor Raznatovic wrote:
> I just intsalled GNOME on my Red Hat 5.2 box. Problem is I cant start it
> up. Somebody in a chat room told me to put panel in xinitrc or to type it in
> xterm. I tried and I was not satisfied...why? That is not the full desktop.
> Then I found out about gnome-session. A document on Gnome site said to
> include it in xinitrc and I did. But I got only plain ol' X (without a
> window manager as I set it up). I typed in xterm gnome-session and this is
> what I got:
>
> Priority 00 : Starting Id = default0
> Priority 00 : Cloning Id = default0
> Priority 00 : Registering Id = (null)
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> [root@igor bin]# ICE default IO error handler doing on exit(), pid = 285,
> errno= 2
>
> Give me a hint...It 's not that I know a lot about it...
Don't feel like your alone. I get essentially the same thing.
SESSION_MANAGER=local/localhost.localdomain:/tmp/.ICE-unix/417,tcp/localhost.localdomain:1037
Priority 00 : Starting Id = default0
Priority 00 : Cloning Id = default0
Priority 00 : Registering Id = (null)
Segmentation fault
It doesn't help to start it in the .xinitrc. Still no go.
I'm running a P60,, 80M, RH5.2, kernel 2.2.3, Enlightenment WM.
Jim
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From: "Greg Chagnon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Advise please re RedHat 5.2 and my install....
Date: 13 Mar 1999 17:00:29 GMT
Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
GBwG2.22$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Hi,
>I have purchased from my local OfficeMax a RedHat 5.2 Linux software box...
>which I'm about to unseal...however before unsealing... I have a few
>questions about it... and would appreciate some constructive comments to
>assist me in making sure Linux is right for me....
>
>First, the computer I would like to install on is a dual processor PII
>system... is that a problem for RedHat... I don't see it discussed on the
>box, and was wondering if the shipping product handled dual processors
well?
Linux will use the 2nd processor fine...
>Second, I communicate with Internet via a router which talks to all my PC's
>via a NIC... in this case a KNE110TX from Kingston... I noted the vanilla
>"Tulip" drivers don't seem to support this varient as yet... but did find a
>driver over at a Nasa website which seems to support it... my question is,
>how difficult is it to compile, and link in a new network driver?
There's usually very good documentation with anything you download for
linux.
>Third, I noted a new version of the Linux kernal was announced somewhat
>recently, does 5.2 include it, is it in any way relevent or an issue with
my
>install? Should I wait for the new Kernal? Does 5.2 include the newest
>version, or would I download it, what all would be involved with my using
it
>if at all?
Most CDs you buy don't contain the latest kernel. Go to ftp.kernel.org and
get the latest stable kernel. There's a kernel HOWTO at
http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html
>Please pretend I am somewhat computer literate, but a Linux newbie. Replies
>about writing my own driver are definately NOT being solicited,
constructive
>replies certainly are all welcome.
>--
>Gary
>
Good luck...
Greg Chagnon
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From: Andy Johnstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 PCI card
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 12:09:01 -0500
Hi,
I've been trying to get Linux working, some of it is some isn't, but one
thing i was hoping to get working, esp. since i have a winmodem (bluck)
is my Ethernet card (which also would get me onto a lan w/cable modem).
However, i have no /dev/eth0, or ethx at all. Linux knows its there,
here is select output from less /proc/pci
Bus 0, device 9, function 0:
Ethernet controller: Intel 82596 (rev 3).
Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master
Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=32.Max Lat=64.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xee101000 [0xee101000].
I/O at 0xe800 [0xe801].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xee100000 [0xee100000].
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xee000000 [0xee000000].
I know the chipset for it is supported, and i think everything is ok, i
just need to get the device to show up in the /dev directory. I know i
could probably use mknod, but i don't know if its block or character, or
the major or minor revision numbers. Any ideas? Please email me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove the nospam. or it won't get through.
Thanks for any help.
Andy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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