On Mon, Dec 24, 2001 at 02:42:28AM +0200, Adi Stav wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 04:00:09PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> > Will verify PGP keys (though I have heard of a problem with the
> > verification).
>
> PGP is not an APT or up2date feature, it's a basic packaging format
> feature that RPM has and debs don't. Debs' biggest disadvantage, I
> agree.
The architecture of providing secure packages does indeed exist, it's just
a matter of integrating it into the distribution. Actually, there are are
a couple of schemes, but only one (Which resembles the RH model) has been
implemented. Signed packages will not be included in Debian 3.0, but it
would be inaccurate to say that the packaging system does not support signed
packages. See debsigs and debsig-verify on your Debian system.
>
> > Will report to you what was done.
>
> Try apt-get -u, if that is what you meant.
>
> > that's it, more or less.
> >
> > On the other hand - Will not let you choose where to get the updates
> > from (+3rd party packages not supported)
> > Will send the entire config to redhat.
>
> Seems to me APT is a more flexible, letting you mix and match
> various source (stable, unstable, extras, non-free etc).
Apt is not a flexible tool, and it's behavior is often flawed.
Apt ignores two very important elements of the deb format, Recommends and
Suggests. apt also doesn't integrate well with dpkg (It maintains a separate
package list). I wouldn't trust apt to perform complex operations for me,
that's why I use dselect for non-trivial operations.
> But then
> again, Red Carpet lets you do the same thing. Doesn't up2date?
> I'd say whether or not those sources are inside or outside Red Hat /
> Debian is not a technological issue (unless I misunderstood what you
> meant by technological issue).
>
> > Requires subscription (even if it's free, at the moment).
>
> Not a technological issue?
>
> I've always thought APT to be superior technologically, because of
> its flexibility and robustness (and you like its client-centrism).
See above paragraph.
Regards, Yotam Rubin
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