On 25/09/06, Jonathan Ben Avraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
domain. Much of the content that we have had on the site over the years has migrated to other sites that can do a better job - the sites that are linked to on linux.org.il and this is a "*good thing*.
Right. I think that the existing sites (linmagazine, whatsup, hamakor, openoffice.org.il etc) are great and do not see the point in duplicating their goal of keeping Hebrew-speakers up to date about news in FOSS or advancing specific FOSS projects.
Slick graphic excution does not have any added value for this site.
There are two levels in which I disagree with this statement: 1. The current page at linux.org.il doesn't help first-comers to navigate between the other sites it points to - why would a non-technical home user looking to understand "what's all this Firefox all about" decide to click on a web site described as "a site of some kids with a scar the shape of a penguin"? Or why would an owner of some comercial site trying to understand why someone asks him more money to make a web site "standard compliant" might be worth it decide to click on linux.israel.net's icon? Or how would a lawyer thinking about switching his office to use Linux servers and OpenOffice.org bring himself to listen what the people on Linmagazine have to say? If I were them I'd turn around and run! 2. Addressing (1) would be a big advantage over the current site but having a less spartan look (and it shouldn't take much - just copy CSS of some other good looking site or some FOSS CMS template) will help keep people in. At the end of the day, I think that we all share the goal of helping as many people as possible to understand and start using FOSS. The current web site can do a better job in doing this. I already have a mental image of what a document describing my proposal and what the layout should look like but haven't got around to sit down and write it. Hopefully tonight I'll have some time to put down a proposal in writing and offer this to the community.
Getting iglu.org.il back online does.
What's so special about iglu.org.il? BTW - I've just noticed the side bar and bottom bars for the first time - the "What's Linux" page is nice but I'd like to suggest a layout which will take the viewer's hand and guide him better to get his questions answered through the site. Just to stress one thing - I do not intend to attack anyone of the people who run any of these sites, on top of all Ilya who's description of his goal pretty much fall in line with my idea of the proper function of linux.org.il and who I see as done more to the community than I - after all he shells out the expenses to put this site in the first place. Cheers, --Amos
Shanah Tovah, - yba On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 03:29:48 +0300 > From: Ilya Konstantinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: linux-il <linux-il@linux.org.il> > Subject: Re: [UTF-8] ÷åã ôúåç àì÷ > > Amos Shapira wrote: > >> On 23/09/06, Ilya Konstantinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Amos Shapira wrote: >>> >>> > Who's the power behind linux.org.il right now? >>> Me. Always been me. (Well, ever since Linux.org.il stopped pointing to >>> IGLU's site.) >> >> And what are your thought of what you want to do with this domain name? > Exactly what it is right now -- to be a portal to sites that do a better job > than we can. By this, I aim to give all community sites and service providers > equal representation, so that nobody would feel we're hagging the domain. In > fact, I've always stated this at [ http://www.linux.org.il/about ]. > If I understood Danny correctly, his sentiment is caused by the fact there's > no 'single point of contact' for Linux on the "official" domain. Indeed, > Linux.org.il doesn't give out that feeling. However, if we flip it around, > that'll be misleading to make the community appear different than it really > is -- loads of loosely-connected projects who do not report to each other and > do not adhere to any common planning, and turn out with stuff we all use > day-to-day. Red Hat or Oracle web sites may radiate this 'single point of > contact' feel to increase their business, but we shouldn't feel any > inferiority complex regarding the big boys and their sites. (You know, the > kind of sites which emphasize outside-leading links -- cause, why would you > want to go anywhere else?). > > BTW, surprisingly, even though the site has low goals and requires little > investment in content, I've hardly had contributing authors coming up to me > with an informative two-paragraph piece in Hebrew on their favorite distro. > > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- EE 77 7F 30 4A 64 2E C5 83 5F E7 49 A6 82 29 BA ~. .~ Tk Open Systems =}------------------------------------------------ooO--U--Ooo------------{= - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - tel: +972.2.679.5364, http://www.tkos.co.il - --660480-1252606706-1159161537=:2050-- ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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