Yeah - I seem to be getting 20-30% loss on TCP packets to www.cnn.com
on the same router that was dropping the ICMP packets. (#4 below)

Selected device eth0, address 10.1.1.193, port 38669 for outgoing packets
Tracing the path to www.cnn.com (64.236.29.120) on TCP port 80 (www),
30 hops max
 1  10.1.1.254  0.514 ms  0.974 ms  0.985 ms
 2  XXXXXXXXX  0.986 ms  0.988 ms  0.983 ms
 3  xxxxxxx.ser.netvision.net.il (XXXXXXXX)  9.403 ms  11.062 ms  12.373 ms
 4  vl100.coresw2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.69)  13.803 ms * 10.785 ms
 5  ge0-1.gw2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.212)  9.913 ms  9.894 ms  26.442 ms
 6  pos1-0.brdr1.nyc.nv.net.il (212.143.12.13)  255.455 ms  247.516 ms

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Michael Tewner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Just talked to Netvision Asakim support -
> > He was knowlegable  - ran `mtr` on his workstation and saw the packet
> loss.
> >
> > He explained that "there is no problem" and that the core routers are
> > dropping the ping packets based on the amount of load on the router.
> > He explained that the router should only be dropping ICMP packets.
>
> I didn't read all the messages on this thread but maybe if you could run the
> same tests with tcptraceroute you could see weather the packet drop happens
> to TCP packets or not?
>
> --Amos
>
>

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