BTW,

Top Netvision support people have claimed that it's an anti-DDOS mechanism....

But that seems strange - I mean, filtering legitimate TCP web requests
(tcptracroute) - 20% of the packets over just a few requests?

Can anyone on Netvision try a simple web request with a sniffer and
see if there are any packet re-requests? (I would, but I'm our of
town)


On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Michael Tewner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah - I seem to be getting 20-30% loss on TCP packets to www.cnn.com
> on the same router that was dropping the ICMP packets. (#4 below)
>
> Selected device eth0, address 10.1.1.193, port 38669 for outgoing packets
> Tracing the path to www.cnn.com (64.236.29.120) on TCP port 80 (www),
> 30 hops max
>  1  10.1.1.254  0.514 ms  0.974 ms  0.985 ms
>  2  XXXXXXXXX  0.986 ms  0.988 ms  0.983 ms
>  3  xxxxxxx.ser.netvision.net.il (XXXXXXXX)  9.403 ms  11.062 ms  12.373 ms
>  4  vl100.coresw2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.69)  13.803 ms * 10.785 ms
>  5  ge0-1.gw2.hfa.nv.net.il (212.143.8.212)  9.913 ms  9.894 ms  26.442 ms
>  6  pos1-0.brdr1.nyc.nv.net.il (212.143.12.13)  255.455 ms  247.516 ms
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Michael Tewner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Just talked to Netvision Asakim support -
> > > He was knowlegable  - ran `mtr` on his workstation and saw the packet
> > loss.
> > >
> > > He explained that "there is no problem" and that the core routers are
> > > dropping the ping packets based on the amount of load on the router.
> > > He explained that the router should only be dropping ICMP packets.
> >
> > I didn't read all the messages on this thread but maybe if you could run the
> > same tests with tcptraceroute you could see weather the packet drop happens
> > to TCP packets or not?
> >
> > --Amos
> >
> >
>

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