I found out that in my case they blocked all ports except 8010. So there is no need for QOS. But I am going to tell them.
As for hot, they use some cisco routers and some jerky routers/switches like Juniper Networks M10 or M320 router or similar versions of juniper. In my case there is major packet loss either if I ping google or web sites in Israel. On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:59:12AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > So I wonder, are those ISP's using Cisco's 1XXX/2XXX routers which > > makes those packet loss? > > An ISP should have a very fast equipment which shouldn't loose packet > > like nuts. Thats unacceptable these days, specially when it comes to > > any serious video streaming, for example. Few days ago I did a small > > test from a hosted server in one of the big ISP's here and tried to do > > some HD streaming for a test I'm performing. I have 5MBit ADSL, so I > > thought that it should be sufficient.. > > It was - but due to the packet loss, the stream becomes jerky playback > > (not because of my machines here at home). > > I have 5M cable, and it varries from host to host, day to day, time > to time. > > For example, I have no noticeable packet loss using VoIP (SIP) to > my provider, but had too much to make it useable to Vonage. Skype > reports 5% packet loss often, and in the evening 15%-20%. Enough > that I never use it unless I have to. > > Echolink is even worse (if you know what that is, if not suffice > it to say it's a propritary VoIP package). > > > > As much as I know (and it least according to my tests which I did 2 > > minutes ago with traceroute), all of the ISP's are connected between > > themselves with fiber optics directly. > > All? There are many ISP's in Israel besides the "big three". They probably > are connected, but what about the small ones? Or Bynet? > > > > Now that they are connected between themselves, I don't think IIX is > > alive any more. anyone knows whats the status of IIX these days? > > Doron? > > I'd like to find that out too. Please respond to the list. > > > Yeah, which makes any hosting video streaming outside Israel a joke, > > unless you have lots of money either for a slice of optic from Med1 or > > using anything like Akamai's services. > > That's life in the Internet. :-) > > > > QOS for traceroute? never heard of this thing before... > > Sure, they would very likely traffic shape ping and traceroute to > be really good, to make customers think it's not their ISP's > problem. > > > > I don't want to be sued, but my hunch tells me that all of the ISP's > > are doing QOS for stuff like Bittorrent, emule/edonkey etc. but not > > blocking those ports (which would be a joke when it comes to > > bittorrent.. It doesn't care if you block 6881-6888 TCP as long as you > > open something else). > > I know that Netvision does not block SIP nor, bit torrent but according > to several users on other lists, 012 blocks (or did block) STEAM (a gaming > site) and really slows down FTP. > > > Geoff. > > -- > Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM > > ================================================================= > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
