OK - I decided to give this a look, because I'm not happy with my
transfer speeds -

I ran mtr from work (Netvision 5Mbit(?) ) to my home IP (Hot+Netvision):
4. vl100.coresw1.hfa.nv.net.il
                 23.0%   279   10.7  15.2   8.2 172.4  15.2
 5. ge1-7.coresw1.ptk.nv.net.il
                  17.2%   279   10.8  16.1  10.6  98.1  12.1
 6. clr1.cab01.ptk.nv.net.il
                   0.0%   279   12.8  18.9  10.5 109.8  16.4
 7. ???


That vl100.coresw1.hfa.nv.net.il  router is causing loss for every
host I've tried. www.cnn.com (~15%).

www.yahoo.com it's giving ~20% loss, and pos2-13.brdr1.lnd.nv.net.il
is giving another 10%.
www.google.com - vl100 is giving 16%, pos2-9.brdr1.lnd.nv.net.il  is
giving 26% loss.

Is this on purpose, or is this some type of shaping/QOS?

-mike
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use ADSL (5Mbit). My ISP: Netvision.
>
>  It seems that they also have some serious packet drops even from my
>  machine to Netvision! check this out: (problems are marked with
>  arrows)
>
>  /mtr -c 10 -r netvision.net.il
>  HOST: witch.dyndns.org            Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
>   1. 192.168.1.1                   0.0%    10    1.3   0.9   0.7   1.4   0.3
>   2. lo0.lns05.hfa.nv.net.il       0.0%    10   11.4  26.6  11.4 147.4  42.5
>  -->>  3. vl201.coresw1.hfa.nv.net.il  30.0%    10   30.6  16.3  12.0
>  30.6   6.4 <<---
>   4. po41.srvc4.hfa.nv.net.il      0.0%    10   30.5  16.6  11.7  30.5   7.4
>   5. ???                          100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
>
>  /mtr -c 10 -r www.ynet.co.il
>  HOST: witch.dyndns.org            Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
>   1. 192.168.1.1                   0.0%    10    0.8   0.9   0.7   1.4   0.2
>   2. lo0.lns05.hfa.nv.net.il       0.0%    10   11.5  11.6  11.3  12.1   0.2
>  -->>  3. vl201.coresw1.hfa.nv.net.il  40.0%    10   12.1  14.6  11.8
>  27.1   6.1 <<--
>   4. po41.srvc4.hfa.nv.net.il      0.0%    10   11.6  12.9  11.6  17.9   2.1
>   5. 212.143.162.136               0.0%    10   14.2  13.2  11.4  16.3   1.6
>
>  Hmm, I wonder if Netvision knows about this..
>
>  Hetz
>
>
>
>  On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 10:10 PM, sara fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Hello Everyone
>  >
>  >  I am having major problem with packet loss at some hot server that
>  >  sits in tel aviv. www.dnsstuff.com revealed this info.
>  >
>  >  I would like to know how many people suffer from this problem.
>  >
>  >  For this task mtr program is needed. The program can be downloaded at
>  >  http://www.bitwizard.nl/mtr/ .
>  >
>  >  The description of  the program is mtr  combines  the  functionality
>  >  of the traceroute and ping programs in a single network diagnostic
>  >  tool.
>  >
>  >    As mtr starts, it investigates the network connection between the
>  >  host mtr runs on and HOSTNAME.  by sending  packets  with  purposly
>  >  low  TTLs.  It  continues to send packets with low TTL, noting the
>  >  response time of the intervening routers.  This allows mtr to print
>  >  the  response  percentage  and response  times of the internet route
>  >  to HOSTNAME.  A sudden increase in packetloss or response time
>  >  is often an indication of a bad (or simply overloaded) link.
>  >
>  >  After installing this program please run the command mtr google.com or
>  >  even mtr walla.co.il mtr ynet.co.il
>  >
>  >  I got in all 3 urls ~75% packet loss at ip 213.57.43.199 and at
>  >  213.57.43.22 (or 14) another ~20% packet loss.
>  >
>  >  Please inform me how many people suffer from this problem and who is
>  >  their isp. Mine is 012. but the ips mentioned belong to hot.
>  >
>  >  I already talked with a nice technician at hot and he promissed to
>  >  give me an answer. Meanwhile at 012 tried to help me and in the end he
>  >  told me it's a operating sytem problem. I just hate to hear such
>  >  stupid excuses. I tried bot with and without iptables and it's the
>  >  same. Instead of solving the problem they blame the OS. And all this
>  >  happens with router or without.
>  >
>  >  Besides that, the first IP is actually border gateway.
>  >
>  >  Thanks for your help
>  >
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