Hi, I never said they marked the whole country, maybe you should read the email better.
I asked why doesn't the ISP mark the AS of the dialup, and DSL, etc as a separate entity - like hosting/teleco companies do in the US, and Europe. If the answer (yours or theirs) is because we are: 1) Too small 2) Care too little 3) RBL is wrong I am taking my "stuff" elsewhere, the ISP's responsibility is to provide service, and it should be good service - meaning stopping others from abusing the network, which in turn is used against me - as I am blocked in an RBL. On Thursday 24 July 2008 14:46:10 Imri Zvik wrote: > Noam, > They are blocking the *WHOLE* AS, not IP ranges. They blocked the whole > AS number I'm using because 0.596 % of the ips in that AS sent "spam". > Do you think that is that reasonable. > I've just googled for that RBL, and found out a lot of ranting > (including a recent thread in NANOG). Apparently, they are demanding > money if you want your AS to be removed... > > Anyway, one RBL doesn't equal to "The whole country is blocked!". If you > have any specific problem, why don't you try your [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Noam Rathaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:35 PM > To: Imri Zvik > Cc: linux-il > Subject: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting > > Sorry but I don't understand why you guys think I checked dynamic > ranges? > > I checked hosting ranges, and these SHOULD BE CLEAN, no one in the > hosting > farm should be sending out SPAM, it is against the policy of the hosting > > company, it is clearly written in the agreement you sign when you come > in > into their farm. > > Same thing for illegal content, piracy, etc. > > On Thursday 24 July 2008 14:24:02 Imri Zvik wrote: > > I'm sorry, but checking hosting/dynamic ranges is just misleading. It > > is > > > impossible to clean these ranges, and even though the ISPs try. > > > > I don't know this specific RBL, but I don't think it's a widely used > > one > > > - Anyway, they "punish" whole AS numbers which seems quite harsh. > > If you would _actually_ read what they are suggesting, you would have > > seen that it is impossible to implement in Israel (Can you imagine > > what > > > will happen if the ISP's will just block port 25 and *force* you to > > use > > > their own mail servers? I can just see the angry postbacks in ynet..). > > > > What you should be checking is the ranges that the ISP mail system > > uses; > > > If you will take Smile 012 for example, and check it's reputation in > > senderbase.org, you will see that most of the servers are listed as > > "GOOD", and some as "Neutral": > > http://www.senderbase.org/senderbase_queries/detailip?search_string=84.9 > > > 5.2.0%2F24 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Noam Rathaus > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:58 PM > > To: linux-il > > Subject: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting > > > > Hi, > > > > Has anyone here tried to get the Bezeq Internation, Barak or Netvision > > to get > > them off the blacklisting found here: > > http://www.uceprotect.net/en/rblcheck.php > > > > Apparently all the Israeli ISP are blacklisted here (any host you put > > there in > > their hosting range) - and all because they don't have a policy of > > cleaning > > up their network from spammers. > > > > This means we are all losing emails we send because our ISPs are doing > > a > > > bad > > job. -- Noam Rathaus CTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.beyondsecurity.com "Know that you are safe." Beyond Security Finalist for the "Red Herring 100 Global" Awards 2007 ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
