On Tue, Oct 25, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about "Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce "Secure Boot"": > >small market (this is the way Apple went for many years, and many > >of its > >services still are unavailable in Israel), > > That's simply untrue. Apple for whatever reason it chose, sold an > exclusive franchise to a company called YEDA about 27 years ago. > When it expired, they chose to sell another one to a new company > iDigital, which happens to be part owned by the President's son. > They do that in many countries because of tax and other considerations. > What products are sold in Israel or not is up to iDigital. They have
As they say, the proof is in the pudding. The product that turned Apple's luck around, the iPhone, wasn't sold here for years. If I understand correctly, you still can't buy songs or movies on iTunes if you're in Israel. Apple also makes it easy for application makers to discreminate against people from certain countries, and as in Israeli I still can't get some applications that Americans can. Until very recently (perhaps just a year ago?), the iPhone didn't have a Hebrew keyboard out of the box. You can blaim Yeda, Akum, Pelephone or the President of Israel, but at the end, it all comes down to a top management decision - does the company do *whatever it takes* to please Israelis and make a few extra millions (peanuts compared to the billions they are already making)? Microsoft decided *yes*: they didn't sell their products through crappy resellers, they added Hebrew support many many years ago, they didn't make it easy for application writers to discriminate Israelis, didn't limit their online services only to people from certain countries, and their new products were available in Israel at the same time they were available everywhere else. Apple, on the other hand, decided *no* - they would use a reseller than everyone complain about, they would take years until new products reached Israel, they would sell products without Hebrew support, prevent their own online services from working in Israel, and help other app writers avoid being sold in Israel. If Apple wanted to act differently in Israel, they could do it 27 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago, or today. But they simply don't care. I don't think it's antisemitism - it's simply that they don't care about the extra 0.01% that their profits can grow by pleasing Israelis more. Beside, Israelis are, despite their hatred of being "friers", world famous suckers: If the iPhone is (unlike its situation in the rest of the world!) the top selling smartphone in Israel, even without iTunes working here, then why should Apple bother to fix anything? > Some products are not sold here because they are phased in, for > example the iPhone 4s, but that's common around the world. I'm not talking about a few months of delay. I'm talking about the *years* it took before the iPhone got here, the *years* it took for it to get even a Hebrew keyboard, and more importantly - iTunes store is still not available (as I'm told), 8 years (!) after it was open in the U.S. And again, don't blaim Akum - I don't think Akum is more powerful or greedy than the RIAAA or whatever in the U.S. If iTunes still isn't available here it's because Apple didn't bother. > For example, someone I know went to Office Depot the first day they > were selling legally imported iPads and a person from iDigital was > there answering questions and doing demos. The iPad came out of the > box with Hebrew support. Indeed. But believe it or not, until about a year ago, iOS did *not* come with Hebrew support (especially no Hebrew keyboard). People were selling various apps on the appstore for adding a rudementary Hebrew keyboard. > BTW, despite what many people say, Steve Jobs was very supportive of > open source. The actual MacOS is open source (though with a I think there is no doubt that apple changed, some for the better and some for the worst, but changed - when they came out with ipod (2001) itunes (2003) and iphone (2007). Perhaps it has a few pieces of openness from before that era, but it shed most of its openness during those years. Mac OS X was released in 2001 - just before those "end of openness" years. -- Nadav Har'El | Tuesday, Oct 25 2011, n...@math.technion.ac.il |----------------------------------------- Phone +972-523-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Debugging: the art of removing bugs. http://nadav.harel.org.il |Programming: the art of inserting them. _______________________________________________ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
