Linux-Misc Digest #420, Volume #19               Fri, 12 Mar 99 02:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: Sound Blaster 64... <<==Question==>> (brian moore)
  corrupted files problem (Giovanni Dellefant)
  help a lamer please... (mondo1)
  Apache Problems ("Mark M. Devaney")
  Re: need some application recommendations (Aaron Johnson)
  Linux Newbie Questions (Royce Mitchell III)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (wizard)
  Re: help a lamer please... (brian moore)
  Re: problem upgrading util-linux (Eric Brager)
  Re: COBOL compiler for Linux? (Christopher Browne)
  Re: swapon -s: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory (brian moore)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Christopher Browne)
  Slow Telnet & FTP response ("Ste")
  Re: PPP connection ... Help (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Slow Telnet & FTP response (L J Bayuk)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 64... <<==Question==>>
Date: 12 Mar 1999 04:51:27 GMT

On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:29:53 -0800, 
 CH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I have a Sound Blaster AWE64 (value), and am trying to set it up under
> SUSE 5.3...
>   I have read the Sound-HowTo, but that wasn't much help.
>   Any explanations I have seen for the SB64 setup in the past have not been
> that clear.  In addition, they have been for older versions or different
> distributions.

The instructions are all pretty much the same except for booting.  The
differences there aren't insurmountable.

>   I guess what I'm looking for is either some clear instructions on how to
> set this up or a referance to a site that has such instructions.

Why not explain what the problem is?  Have you built the kernel with
support yet?  Run pnpdump?  etc?

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: Giovanni Dellefant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: corrupted files problem
Date: 11 Mar 1999 23:31:40 GMT

e2fsck is said to store corrupted files in the lost+found directory by
their inode numbers thus making them accessible again.
I used e2fsck on a Iomega Jaz-disk after it suddenly got all messed up
(don't know why it happend). Indeed now I find a number of entries in the
lost+found directory, all with the inode number, size, date etc. But
whenever I try to read, move or copy such a file I get a message "file does
not exist" or "file is a broken link".
So how can I access them?

Second question: Why did Iomega Jaz get corrupted? It all worked well for a
long time, then suddenly during a routine read/write operation about half
of the directories and files disappeared or showed nonsense entries.

Thanks in advance for any help!


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From: mondo1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help a lamer please...
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:13:21 -0600

I was trying to install an rpm on redhat 5.2 and was confronted with an
error that said I needed to install "libXm.so.2" first or something to
that effect.  Any idea what this is and is it on the cd's or do I find
it in a repository?

Thanks
mondo


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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:43:53 +0000
From: "Mark M. Devaney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache Problems

For some reason today my Apache web server stopped working. I get a
glimpse of the error message but can't make it all out. I tried dmesg
but couldn't retrieve the message. I think it says to check something in
/etc/httpd/ .. but I'm not sure what. I might have screwed something up
with Commanche but any changes I made I changed back. Does anyone have
any ideas what could be wrong, how to retrieve the error message and/or
how to set up Apache with default values, as I don't need anything set
up specific, at least I didn't before. Please reply to e-mail too. TIA

--
Mark M. Devaney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Aaron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: need some application recommendations
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:39:08 -0600

Andy Harrison wrote:

> "David M. Cook" wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 04:29:31 GMT, Peter Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >File managers...
> >
> > I like FileRunner.  I use it mostly for its ftp capability, and it's
> > sometimes useful when I'm cleaning up a directory.  Otherwise my favorite
> > file manager is bash.
> >
>
> Since I haven't seen any mention of it in this thread, I have to pitch in
> TkDesk.  I haven't used FileRunner since I started using TkDesk.  Very very
> configurable.  It's so configurable in fact, you can use the thing as your
> window manager if you want, though I haven't gone to that extreme.  You can make
> it have different menus on a right-click for different file types and
> everything.  Very cool.
>

I second that notion-TkDesk is what I use on top of FVWM- my desktop boots and runs
faster than KDE's KFM, which I have tried and hate (too slow, too much look and
feel of Windows 95), and the configurability of TkDesks file browser is very
flexible-and I like the Mac-like look of its toolbar.

Aaron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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From: Royce Mitchell III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Newbie Questions
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 05:50:46 GMT

I have installed Linux on two different machines, and there are some
things I've been trying
to figure out.

I've been reading HOWTO's, but the HOWTO's seem incomplete to me.

Problem 1:

I'm having difficulty getting connected to the internet. I've read the
ISP HOWTO,
as well as another document it recommended ( don't remember ), and both
gave incomplete information.

I'm running Red Hat 5.2 (Apollo)
I have USR 56K on COM2
I've run Modem Setup and selected COM2.
I've added a ppp interface, but when I click connect, nothing happens.

Problem 2:

I have a network of about 10 computers running mostly NT4, with a couple
Win95
machines. I didn't have any problem connecting to either NT or 95 with
smbclient,
but how do I mount a remote share, and how do I set up so that NT/95 can
see
my Linux box?

Problem 3:

X Windows, using the Windows 95 looking interface ( the default one )
after a few
minutes the window controls quit working. I can't click on another
window to
activate it ( I have to use the window operations menu ), and I can't
minimize or click
the X to close it. Neither AfterStep nor WindowMaker has this problem
that I've seen
so far.

Also, just how customizable is X Windows. If also these different
options are available,
is it possible to make my own? Is it simple? Could I implement something
like Be?

Please respond via e-mail, as this newsgroup is very busy.


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From: wizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:11:17 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John Burton wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > On 08 Mar 1999 16:08:43 -0500, Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >
> > >> I look at it this way.  99% of the i386 arch all the way to the pent
> > >> II has a 1-2 gig memory limit.  Dispite the 4 gig addressability of
> > >> the CPU, the chipset will only allow up to 1 gig.  more than that is
> > >> ignored and is inaccessable because of the chipset.  You want more
> > >> memory, use a computer that can handle more memory instead of
> > >> complaining about no support for something the hardware can't even do.
> > >
> > >Exactly, but in the case of the Xeon the hardware *can* address 64 GB
> > >or RAM.
> > >
> > >> to actually NEED that kind of memory, you must have some serious data
> > >> to crunch.  our news server /w 64 meg ram runs our news server going
> > >> through 3 gigs a day and keeps up no prob...
> > >
> > >Yup.  I'm not talking about 3 GB of netnews a day.  That's about 120
> > >MB/hour, or 33 KB/sec, which is peanuts.  I'm talking in the range of
> > >10-100 GB/hour (and up) using a high end RDBMS and other high end data
> > >warehousing tools.  At this point, we're talking 3-30 MB/sec.  4-16
> > >Xeon's can do a pretty good job chewing through that kind of data, if
> > >they can keep their feeds busy.  That means that memory thrashing is a
> > >no-no.
> >
> > how about an entire movie?  Titanic was done using linux on alphas.
> > It put out terabytes of data.  linux was used to colormatch the
> > digital images and put together the fames that made up the movie.  I
> > wouldn't consider that usual usage.  They needed computing power, they
> > got alphas
>
> They also had money! They were't *too* concerned between $4000 &
> $10,000...
> I agree..if you have the money, go for the Alpha... (the 21264 & 21364
> Alphas look pretty impressive...;-)

I really don't see a huge difference in pricing here.    Systems wise Intel
and Alpha are in the same price range.

Dave

>
>
> John
>
> --
> John Burton, Ph.D.
> Senior Associate                 GATS, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]          11864 Canon Blvd - Suite 101
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal)          Newport News, VA 23606
> (757) 873-5920 (voice)           (757) 873-5920 (fax)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: help a lamer please...
Date: 12 Mar 1999 06:02:36 GMT

On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:13:21 -0600, 
 mondo1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was trying to install an rpm on redhat 5.2 and was confronted with an
> error that said I needed to install "libXm.so.2" first or something to
> that effect.  Any idea what this is and is it on the cd's or do I find
> it in a repository?

libXm is Motif.  It's ugly, it's slow and it's expensive.  You can get a
reasonable facsimile of it from the Hungry Programmers at
http://www.lesstif.org/, though it's still ugly and slow.  (Not the
Hungry Programmer's fault for that, though.)

Odds are the application is also available in a statically linked
version that will also work (ie, it includes enough of Motif to run it,
but not run other Motif apps: this is how Netscape works, for example).

Or find a different application, linked with a less ugly library.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:14:32 -0500
From: Eric Brager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem upgrading util-linux

More info on my problem.

Currently util-linux-2.7-19 is installed. I'm trying to install 2.9 so I
may update my kernel to 2.2.2.

I've tried changing modes and ownership of /bin/login only to get the same
Operation not permitted error. (and yes I'm logged in as root)

Any help would be muchly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

-Eric

Eric Brager wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> Getting an annoying error that when trying to upgrade the util-linux rpm
> on redhat-5.2 / i386
>
> # rpm -Uvh util-linux-2.9-0.i386.rpm
> util-linux                  unpacking of archive failed on file
> /bin/login: -2147483639: Operation not permitted
> error: util-linux-2.9-0.i386.rpm cannot be installed
> #
>
> I even tried to rebuild the rpm from the srpm to no avail.
>
> [root@primate /root]# cd /bin
> [root@primate /bin]# ls -alp login
> -rws--x--x   1 root     root        15588 Jun  1  1998 login
> [root@primate /bin]#
>
> Any help would be great.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -Eric


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: COBOL compiler for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:43:42 GMT

On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:16:44 -0000, Eagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there one?

Several.  See URL below...

-- 
Wow!  Windows now can do everything using shared library DLLs, just
like Multics did back in the 1960s!  Maybe someday they'll discover
separate processes and pipes, which came out in the 1970s!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/langcobol.html>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: swapon -s: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory
Date: 12 Mar 1999 02:39:45 GMT

On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:35:06 -0700, 
 Doug Apel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a swap file (/dev/swap1) that is 128MB, and is active (mounts in fstab)
> according to /proc/meminfo.   I do not have any swap partitions.  I have the
> same symptoms as Dieter in that I cannot run "swapon -s" because /proc/swaps
> doesn't exist.

/proc/swaps was added in the 2.1 kernels.  You won't have it unless you
upgrade.

> OS is Slackware 3.6, kernel is 2.0.36.   Here is the output of /proc/meminfo:
> 
> netmon2:/var/adm/syslog# cat /proc/meminfo
>         total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
> Mem:  263110656 258678784  4431872 13377536 218607616  5419008
> Swap: 133885952    45056 133840896
> MemTotal:    256944 kB
> MemFree:       4328 kB
> MemShared:    13064 kB
> Buffers:     213484 kB
> Cached:        5292 kB
> SwapTotal:   130748 kB
> SwapFree:    130704 kB

You have swap: 128M work, and you're not using it (quite normal).

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:43:59 GMT

On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:49:49 GMT, John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> how about an entire movie?  Titanic was done using linux on alphas.
>> It put out terabytes of data.  linux was used to colormatch the
>> digital images and put together the fames that made up the movie.  I
>> wouldn't consider that usual usage.  They needed computing power, they
>> got alphas
>
>They also had money! They were't *too* concerned between $4000 &
>$10,000...
>I agree..if you have the money, go for the Alpha... (the 21264 & 21364
>Alphas look pretty impressive...;-)

It's not so much that they were price-insensitive; it's also that they
were *space*-sensitive. 

Adding a couple of extra boxes to make up for IA-32 CPUs not being as
fast may not be a big deal when the task is small.  Fitting an extra
system in my apartment might be moderately annoying, but wouldn't cost
much. 

But when you start building a big "rendering farm," additional costs
start needing to be considered:
- The cost of the "real estate" required to house the boxes,
- The cost of getting those boxes dropped into place, plugged in, and
  running.

Buying Intel-based boxes might *not* be more economical if you have to
spend an extra million dollars on the land and building to house them...
-- 
Wow!  Windows now can do everything using shared library DLLs, just
like Multics did back in the 1960s!  Maybe someday they'll discover
separate processes and pipes, which came out in the 1970s!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/alpha.html>

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From: "Ste" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Slow Telnet & FTP response
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:42:56 -0000

From: Ste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Slow Telnet & FTP response
Date: 12 March 1999 02:20

Hi,

Lill help needed.

Currently have two Red Hat servers (1x5.1 & 1x5.2), connected to an ethernet
LAN using 3com office connect hubs, and both have 3c509 nics.

>From a w'98 machine I can connect to them instantly using http, but telnet
takes EXACTLY 1m 15 sec for the server to respond after connection and
around the same time for FTP - using various clients.

I have tried connecting to the same hub, from a different hub on the same
segment and even telnetting from one server to the other... same result.

The only thing that gets me is the connection is made within seconds but it
takes so long for the prompts to be displayed on the client.

Any clues ?

Regards,





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: PPP connection ... Help
Date: 12 Mar 1999 06:17:35 GMT

In <7ca36u$ll0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Cornett) 
writes:

]On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:21:57 +0000, David Kirkpatrick wrote:

]: These need to be made execuitable.  Execute chmod 755 on ppp-on
]: and ppp-on-dialer
]: -------------------------------------------------------------------
]: Modify ppp-on by editing the following:
]: TELEPHONE, ACCOUNT, PASSWORD

]Just want to point out that 'chmod 755 ppp-on' will give anyone who
]connects to the machine with ftp or telnet -read rights- to the telephone
]number, account and password to your ISP. Consider making that 'chmod

The telphone and account are not too bad, but the password is a problem
So you could have ppp-on ask for your password

Put the lines

echo -n " Enter password to ISP: "
read PASSWORD

into ppp-on near the beginning, and do not put in your password.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Slow Telnet & FTP response
Date: 12 Mar 1999 02:51:16 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>From: Ste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Slow Telnet & FTP response
>Date: 12 March 1999 02:20
>
>Hi,
>
>Lill help needed.
>
>Currently have two Red Hat servers (1x5.1 & 1x5.2), connected to an ethernet
>LAN using 3com office connect hubs, and both have 3c509 nics.
>
>From a w'98 machine I can connect to them instantly using http, but telnet
>takes EXACTLY 1m 15 sec for the server to respond after connection and
>around the same time for FTP - using various clients.
>
>I have tried connecting to the same hub, from a different hub on the same
>segment and even telnetting from one server to the other... same result.
>
>The only thing that gets me is the connection is made within seconds but it
>takes so long for the prompts to be displayed on the client.
>
>Any clues ?

Yes. Your symptoms exactly match a DNS problem. Telnet and FTP
are looking up the incoming host to try to find out who it really is.
Tcp wrappers does this to check security if you use hostnames in
your /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny files. FTP does it always
(at least the wu.ftpd version I'm using) and I don't think you can
turn it off. But the real answer is to check & fix your DNS so you
get a fast answer back, even if the answer is "No such host/domain".

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