Linux-Misc Digest #556, Volume #19               Mon, 22 Mar 99 01:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: DJGPP (David M. Cook)
  newbie's desktop too big (cornelius)
  Re: IE5 under Linux (Wolf)
  Re: Fetchmail posts two copies of each mail... ? ("Brady")
  Bargain PC for $369 ("Comquest")
  FS: LinuxRules.com (Matthew Ross Peterson)
  Re: MCSE preparation exams (Danny Aldham)
  Help -- Porting from Dos to linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Xfree86 (Ben van Tricht)
  Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Mikhail Kruk)
  Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the  Linux-equivalents 
for these Windoze programs? (Sal)
  Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Create *.tar.gz (Jim Richardson)
  Re: CD/Jewel Case label maker (for linux)? (Thomas Zajic)
  Xlib:  extension "MIT-SHM" = ? ("USENET")
  Re: IE5 under Linux ("James")
  Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents 
for these Windoze programs? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.djgpp
Subject: Re: DJGPP
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 03:56:16 GMT

On Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:38:31 +1200, Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Please take this to alt.perverts.emacs thank you very much!

But we Emacs perverts have more fun.

-- 
No Linux for you!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (cornelius)
Subject: newbie's desktop too big
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:46:00 -0600 (CST)

Hello.
 I finally got X going (my distribution included KDE), but the desktop
extends beyond the boundaries of my monitor. How can I get the entire
desktop to appear within the confines of my monitor?

The two Linux books I bought don't cover this problem, and the websites
i've searched don't address the problem.

TIA

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]      
                                              
                                                              


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wolf)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: IE5 under Linux
Date: 21 Mar 1999 22:41:47 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Emile van Bergen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Just stick to Netscape 3.04 Gold. Has an html editor, mail/newsreader,
>the complete package is much smaller (on disk and in memory) than even
>the standalone Navigator 4.0x or 4.5 (leave alone communicator), and
>crashes far, far less often. I was tempted many times to try one of
>those 4 series, but only to switch back to 3.04 in a few days.
>
>And oh, it already has full java/jscript/https support. No CSS, though.
>
>-- 
>
>M.vr.gr. / Best regards,
>
>Emile van Bergen (e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

I've run into a couple Java based things that Netscape 3.xx for Linux
won;'t handle that Netscape 4.xx will (the Java based chat at Yahoo is
one that comes to mind immediately)  I much prefer the Netscape 3.xx
software too, but had to switch to 4 to get some things working.


-- 
Wolf
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Fetchmail posts two copies of each mail... ?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:26:15 GMT

lucky  for you i just found out how to do this for my church:

this is the fetchmail rc we use to make it do multidrop


 defaults
        proto pop3
        fetchall


poll yourmailserver localdomains mydomain.co.uk:
        user (USER GOES HERE) with pass (PASS HERE) to esr * here

this works great for me.

Brady

Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.3.96.990320223933.13303B-100000@sun-cc203...
> Hello,
>
> I am using fetchmail to retrieve mail from an ISP to a mail gateway
> machine running RedHat Linux 5.1 and sendmail 8.8.7 (sendmail.cf 8.8.4). I
> don't think that sendmail is the problem though...
>
> The mail is posted into a multidrop box at the isp (any mail that goes to
> mydomain.co.uk). My machine is locally called gateway.mydomain.co.uk (and
> other machines on the network are called a.mydomain.co.uk, b.mydom..., c.
> etc.)
>
> I have to use POP3 to retrieve the mail, but with fetchmail it gets the
> mail from the ISP, and then depending on how I change the .fetchmailrc
> file either sends it all to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or to, say,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *and* [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendmail then
> reports a problem because the MX dns entry points gateway.mydomain.co.uk
> to mydomain.co.uk and reports a DNS loop, bouncing one of the two e-mails
> back to the sender.
>
> I could use the first method of all e-mail going to root, and then use
> procmail to separate e-mail out to each user (which seems to allow more
> dynamic configuration), but then the users cannot use "Reply" to reply
> e-mail back to the sender, as the sender of the mail is now "root".
>
> Please help! I don't really mind which method I use to retrieve the mail,
> but it really needs to put the e-mails into local (mail gateway) mailboxes
> unaltered from downloading from the ISP.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matthew
>



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From: "Comquest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.periphs.mainboard,alt.comp.periphs.mainboards.epox,alt.comp.pheriphs.mainboard.supermicro,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.sys.pc-clone,alt.warez.ibm-pc,cmu.misc.market.computers,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.p
Subject: Bargain PC for $369
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 08:21:44 -0800

Hi,
   300 Mhz processor PC system, unbeatable price, brand new.  Check
www.cqinc.com for more detail or call 1-888-8087837.

Best Regards,

ComQuest




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Ross Peterson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: FS: LinuxRules.com
Date: 22 Mar 1999 05:00:00 GMT

For Sale:

The domain linuxrules.com

For more details, please visit ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=81228851



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
Subject: Re: MCSE preparation exams
Date: 22 Mar 1999 04:47:08 GMT

X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

Michael Powe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I suppose that depends on what they think they're "getting."  I know
: several non-MCSEs that can troubleshoot the britches completely off
: some MCSEs that work right along side them.  If paying out thousands
: of dollars for an MSC won't make you the best at solving problems on
: Windows systems, isn't that kind of a waste of money?  And, given that
: such is the case, how is the MSCE certificate a "guarantee" that that
: person is actually most qualified for the job?

An MCSE proves little, you are right. But in todays business world
more & more RFPs are requiring installation & project management by
an MCSE.  No business wants to walk away from work, so they get the 
certifications that their customers request. In many ways the certification
is used more by the marketing & sales critters than by the techies. 
But it adds weight to your CV. I know a large local business that 
required that all of their help desk people get MCSE certified to
keep their jobs. Each person that got certified left within 6 months 
to a much higher paying (>$10K) job. They have since dropped the requirement.
I got the cert 2 years ago. It has only helped my career and improved
my pay.

--
Danny Aldham      Postino Dotcom                     E-mail for Business
www.postino.com   Virtual Servers, Mail Lists, Web Databases, SQL & Perl

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help -- Porting from Dos to linux
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:25:37 GMT

Hi,

  What are the issues to be considered when porting from dos to linux? Where
can I get details regarding the same... some links...  Also I may have some
multilingual support included... Where do I look up for multilingual support.
How do I have Linux installed with different fonts/language support??

Thanks in advance,

Vijay.

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From: Ben van Tricht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xfree86
Date: 22 Mar 1999 05:31:50 GMT

Hi, 

I recently installed RH 5.2, and found out Xwindows didn;t work with my 
SiS6326 AGP card. So I went to www.x86free.org and found out that version 
3.3.3 did support my card. So I downloaded all the necessary files and 
installed them. Now Xwin works fine with my card, but I can't do a thing 
with it. I only get 3 windows with the Linuxprompt. All the menus seem to 
have disappeared. Anybody know why?


Ben van Tricht...

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From: Mikhail Kruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 00:36:14 -0500

drwho wrote:
> 
> Mikhail Kruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > You can setup remote services on NT. Including fully  Unix compatible
> > ones. Like rsh, rlogin, telnet... They've released some kind of unix
> > compatability package recently. You can even have a NFS server running
> > on NT.
> 
> And how much do these "unix compatibility packages" and NFS servers COST?
> And do they come standard with the OS?  Of course not...

oh come on
I didn't tell that this is good or smart
I was just trying to be objective. NT can provide remote access and
despite what somebody told here you can run applications remotely on it.
And I think many people can be logged in at the same time (though i
didn't try it)
And you can run a job in the evening and find it finished next morning
too. (though most probably you will find blue screen ;)
BTW chances are that this NFS thing comes with SP4 now...

But don't argue with me please, because I don't like NT either and there
is no point in screaming how bad it is at each other 
(btw interesting observation about NT: we've been ordering lots of NT
machines from Dell lately ranging from PII-233 to PII-450. I've noticed
that the faster CPU is the longer it takes NT to boot! how do they
achieve it???)

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From: Sal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the  
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 00:14:21 -0500

How can starting up a computer damage it?  Please explain.

Most people don't need it on all the time.  Why would I have my computer on
doing nothing, waiting for me to use it?  Thats kind of dumb, I'll have it
booted it 30 seconds when I'm ready to use it.

"Mr. Tinkertrain" wrote:

> Linux User wrote:
> >
> > I've finally got RedHat 5.2 running with WindowMaker and an updated
> > kernel to 2.2.3. And I find it it MUCH more beautiful than Win98
> > (because of WinMaker?) and incredibly more faster and more reliable.
> >
> > But still, I don't standard bootup my computer with Linux. Why? Well,
> > because, you can say what you want about Windoze, it got some pretty
> > good programs written for it.
> > And I doubt that I'll bootup with linux before I can get their
> > Linux-equivalents.
>
> you boot up your computer... hmm... i guess that means you turn it off
> and on. why?? my friends do that, and i smack em in the face.  booting
> up can damage your hard drive and/or master boot record, and also wastes
> WAY more electricity than leaving your comp on does.
> i've had linux up and running for about 2 months now.
>
> <snip>
>
> > A fast image viewer program, equal to ACDsee. It must be FAST,
> > FAST,FAST, have a browser-option which allows you to maintain your
> > image files easily, supports keyboard command (delete, move, copy) adn
> > it must be fast.
>
> xv
>
> > A good image program equal to Paint Shop Pro. With only one musthave
> > option. Batch conversion. Convert a bunch of image files into another
> > file system with only three clicks.
>
> the gimp



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: 22 Mar 1999 03:48:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:44:26 +0000, 
 Shane Steven Sturrock, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>On 19 Mar 1999 06:28:05 +0100, Matthias Buelow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>How often is this done with Unix workstations in a larger pool?
>>To accomplish this goal, we'd need some distributed operating system,
>>like Plan9.
>
>Surprisingly often.  It is very common that a workstation can be running
>lots of programs in background while still being used as a workstation.  We
>often have simulations and database searches running on our Alpha boxes but
>they are still perfectly usable as workstations since the typical user won't
>even notice if the processor is spending 95+% of its time doing something
>heavy.  More to the point, you can also have lots of cheap slow workstations

(snip for brevity)

Amen to that, I am trying to pick up python, and have written a small
python script that runs through the sieve of Eratosthenes to search for 
primes, (the tutorials had a prime engine, but it was hideously ineffecient,
so I rebuilt it, It was suprisingly easy in Python.) It is running on an
old '486 at 33Mhz and it is sucking up about 93% of the cpu cycles all 
the time, The effect on the system? none that the user can tell. 

>-- 
>Dr. Shane Sturrock - http://nova.bru.ed.ac.uk/~sss
>Linux, a better WinNT than WinNT


-- 
Jim Richardson
        www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, because a cpu is a terrible thing to waste."


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: Create *.tar.gz
Date: 22 Mar 1999 03:48:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 20 Mar 1999 20:00:09 +0100, 
 Tina, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>Hi,
>
>How do I create a tar archive? I have a heap of files I
>would like to put into a single archive: filename.tar.gz.
>How do I do that? I've read the tar --help screen but that
>didn't make me any wiser ;)
>TIA
>-- 
>

tar cvfz filename.tar.gz file.1 file.2....file.N


-- 
Jim Richardson
        www.eskimo.com/~warlock
All hail Eris
"Linux, because a cpu is a terrible thing to waste."


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From: Thomas Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: CD/Jewel Case label maker (for linux)?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 05:31:05 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, i was wondering if anyone out there knows of (and/or could recommend) a
> jewel case and/or cd label maker program for linux?  I heard of one that can
> save the labels as PS files (which would be ideal for printing out on other
> computers!

ŽjblŽ works fine for me, it uses CDDB lookup & produces PS labels:

   ftp://feynman.tam.uiuc.edu/pub/jbl/

Thomas
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From: "USENET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xlib:  extension "MIT-SHM" = ?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 05:54:25 GMT

# ./xfqcam
Xlib:  extension "MIT-SHM" missing on display "123.56.78.7:0.0".
Segmentation fault (core dumped)        

I am running eXceed v6.1 for WinNT (Workstation SP4).  What does this error
mean for the UNIX machine?  My kernel is 2.2.3 btw...



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From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: IE5 under Linux
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:45:36 +1200

Don't talk like that, it's rubbish.

Can't you see that 99% of people here use the newsgroup as a platform to
influence others as part of their anti-Microsoft agenda?

If any of you had actually bothered to look at it, IE5 is actually a halfway
decent browser. Outlook Express 5 is a halfway decent mail/newsreader.
Certainly streets ahead of Netscape Communicator.

Part of the reason that Linux is free and open is to give people the right
to choose and decide for themselves which is better. If someone decides that
he/she prefers Microsoft software then that's their decision and you're only
giving Linux users a bad name by being so childish.

The original poster asked a simple question about whether IE5 would work on
Linux/i386 and most of the replies are of the form "why would you want to
use Microsoft crap?". How helpful.

To answer the question, I don't think IE5 would run on i386 simply because
an i386 version hasn't been released (AFAIK).

Once again, ignore the idiots who decided their opinion was more important
than your choice.



Anubis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Spyder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > WARGY wrote:
> > >
> > > M$ IE5 is out and it can run on Solaris Unix. Can that Solaris package
> > > be installed in Linux?  (especially Slackware 3.6 distro)
> > >
> > > WARGY
> >
> > Exactly why would you want to do such a hanous thing?
>
> Does it matter?
>
> Perhaps because he exercised his free will and thought and decided that
> for whatever reasons he would like to use IE as his web browser?
>
> At any rate, he asked a simple question-- he did not ask what you thought
> of his choice to use a MS product.
>



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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the 
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 05:48:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linux User) writes:
>>
>>I've finally got RedHat 5.2 running with WindowMaker and an updated
>>kernel to 2.2.3. And I find it it MUCH more beautiful than Win98
>>(because of WinMaker?) and incredibly more faster and more reliable.
>>
>>But still, I don't standard bootup my computer with Linux. Why? Well,
>>because, you can say what you want about Windoze, it got some pretty
>>good programs written for it. 
>>And I doubt that I'll bootup with linux before I can get their
>>Linux-equivalents.
>
>
>       I too have to admit that i'll always have
>an MS box around. So far I haven't found any apps
>for Linux which will compare with Adobe Photoshop,
>in my opinion it still remains superior and will
>therefor require the us of win95... 
>
>
>>A good file manager, equal to Windows Explorer. you can say what you
>>want, but the windows explorer is a good file manager. Drag-and drop
>>is just very easy to use.
>>So the linux-equal should be supporting drag-and-drop, keyboard
>>commands (copy and move,etc), configurable with all kind of
>>decorations, execute files with a double click and a configurable look
>>of how you browse files (details, list or in Linux tems ls-l ls ls-a)
>
>       Um, i'm running RH5.1 w/ AfterStep v1.1
>and i've installed ASFiles, a hack of the OffiX
>file manager. I'm not sure it will run with
>WindowMaker but you can download it from the
>AfterStep page... www.afterstep.com or from the
>ftp site (ftp.afterstep.com).
>       It supports the DND library and full
>drag-n-drop capabilities. It also uses pretty
>icons for files and directories... The only
>thing is that there really isn't any config,
>it pretty much runs the way it's meant to.
>
>>If these programs exists, then please tell me were I can get them
>
>       If you looking for Linux software then
>check out sunsite.und.edu (ftp), there is tons
>of stuff available there.

oops... thats sunsite.unc.edu, sorry.

j.

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