Linux-Misc Digest #266, Volume #19                Tue, 2 Mar 99 17:13:19 EST

Contents:
  Re: Win95 vs. Win98 and Linux (Michael Powe)
  Re: Win95 vs. Win98 and Linux (Michael Powe)
  The proc filesystem on Linux 2.2.1 (Sandeep Kumar)
  Re: Celeron 400 ("Michael Lee Yohe")
  Re: hexbin - mixed success; fail on mac-made pdf file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Receiving email w/Redhat Linux 5.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Downloading at half the speed under Linux vs NT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Multilink PPP in Linux with 2 x V90 = 105,333 bps? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Making Programs SUID root ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: DVD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Kernel 2.2.1 make zImage error with RedHat-5.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: GNOME & WindowMaker [was: KDE? Gnome? ... confused] ("Jeraimee")

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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win95 vs. Win98 and Linux
Date: 01 Mar 1999 23:25:48 -0800

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>>>>> "john" == john  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    john> As a long time Linux user, I have left my "other" partition
    john> in the hands of Win3.1. Now I am considering upgrading to
    john> either Win95 or Win98. My primary OS will still be
    john> Linux. But some packages I need to use will not even unpack
    john> under win 3.1 (e.g. FreeIBComponents for use with Delphi &
    john> Interbase). So, considering all aspects - which is the least
    john> grief? Which occupies the least disk space? Which is easier
    john> to handle in a mixed environment (using Wine etc.)?

W98 is quite a bit larger than W95.  It has some benefits in the way
of troubleshooting & recovery options.  If you're going to be doing
any messing around that might result in the need for such recovery
(like compiling and running beta software), W98 might be worth the
investment.

Beyond that, W95 is probably just as good.  A cleaner appearance,
anyway.

mp

- --
Michael Powe                                          Portland, Oregon USA
           [EMAIL PROTECTED]    http://www.trollope.org
  "Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
                         -- Anthony Trollope

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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win95 vs. Win98 and Linux
Date: 01 Mar 1999 23:15:18 -0800

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>>>>> "Seth" == Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Seth> Bev wrote:
    >>  Gerald Willmann wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Feb 1999
    >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > All views welcome, of
    >> course.  > > my view on this is that a discussion of the
    >> relative merits of different > M$ OSs does not belong in a
    >> linux newsgroup.  > Gerald

    >> You mean YOU'D trust a M$ addict to give advice?  I think the
    >> views of

    Seth> What's the difference between that and asking a Linux addict
    Seth> which distribution to use? I have win98 on my computer. What
    Seth> I can say is that the line about improved performance in
    Seth> win98 is a load of ...  win98 is just a chance for microsoft
    Seth> to put more stuff in their os that directly encourages you
    Seth> to use more microsoft stuff, stuff that you can't remove.

Win98 has a big advantage over 95 in the troubleshooting department --
good thing, too, since it requires about as much.  Sfc, msconfig and
scanreg prevent a lot of reinstalls.

mp

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Michael Powe                                          Portland, Oregon USA
           [EMAIL PROTECTED]    http://www.trollope.org
  "Three hours a day will produce as much as a man ought to write."
                         -- Anthony Trollope

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From: Sandeep Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: The proc filesystem on Linux 2.2.1
Date: 02 Mar 1999 12:20:48 -0800

Hi, I've grappled with understanding how to add a new piece of information
for a process through /proc/pid/ or /proc/self. What I've tried is the
following but it doesn't seem to work. Any suggestions?
===============================================================================
o Added PROC_PID_FOO to the pid_direcory_inos in linux/proc_fs.h as the last
  entry of the enum.
o Created get_pid_foo(int pid, char *buff) in fs/proc/array.c to copy the
  info about the process that I want displayed.
o updated get_process_array() in fs/proc/array.c to dispatch PROC_PID_FOO.
o Created a 
From: Sandeep Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 02 Mar 1999 12:07:42 -0800
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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  static struct proc_dir_entry proc_pid_foo = {
        PROC_PID_VIN, 3, "foo",
        S_IFREG | S_IRUGO, 1, 0, 0,
        0, &proc_array_inode_operations,
        NULL, proc_pid_fill_inode,
  };

  in fs/proc/base.c.
o Registered proc_pid_foo with 
 
  proc_register(&proc_pid, &proc_pid_vin);

  in fs/proc/base.c.
===============================================================================

The kernel doesn't panic but I never see /proc/self/foo. What am I not
doing?

If possible, please respond directly to me, perhaps in addition to
responding to the newsgroup.

Thanks
--sandeep

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Reply-To: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Celeron 400
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:48:34 -0600
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.misc


>Has anyone overcloked them on a 100Mhz bus (I assume to 600Mhz) ?

People have clocked them on a 100MHz bus.  But, Celerons (unlike Penitum
II/III's) are not clock-locked.  Thus, you can run the Celeron 400 @ 4 X
100MHz = 400MHz.  The Celeron 300A was pushed to 450MHz because the core of
the Celeron 300A was very similar to the 350/400 Pentium II's.  This goes
the same for the 400MHz Celeron's.  You might see 450MHz - but beyond that
you're asking for major problems.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: hexbin - mixed success; fail on mac-made pdf file
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:32:30 GMT

Erik Rossen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some files get sent fine, sometimes the attached files are screwed.
> We've done a few tests on my Linux machine (with binhex and
> acroread) and the Linux machine fails on the same files

Try uudeview, it might yield better results.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Receiving email w/Redhat Linux 5.2
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 20:49:32 GMT

On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:06:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

using pine, can you send e-mail to your self?
yes?
using pine can you send e-mail to another user on the linux machine?
yes?
your problem is in NT.

if no to ether, make sure sendmail is running.

tng

>I have just installed Red Hat Linux for the first time.  Everything seems to
>be running great.  What I would like to do that I can't find any help on is
>sending and receiving mail.  Actually, I have been using PINE, and I can send
>mail fine. The problem is that I can't receive any mail.  I have a NT Server
>the has MS Exchange, but would like to setup something totally seperate.  The
>NT Server is also a DNS Server, which I would also like to setup on the linux
>machine in the future.  I have an MX record on the DNS pointing to the linux
>machine, which gets rid of the "Message Undeliverable" errors.  I guess now
>my messages are just floating in space somewhere.  I feel I am very close,
>but missing something.  Any thoughts or suggestions would be great!!  Thanks!
>
>
>-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own    


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Downloading at half the speed under Linux vs NT
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 20:15:15 GMT

On Tue, 02 Mar 1999 08:32:10 +0000, Pat Palermo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Mike wrote:
>
>> As far as I know my  modem is using the same init string for both NT
>> and Linux, whatever the default is. NT says I'm getting a line connect
>> speed of 45300. Is there a way to check line connect speed in Linux?
>> thanks
>> mike
>>
>>
>
>Mine was doing exactly the same thing. I used the same init string as my nt box
>but was connecting much slower. I'm using kppp and it has option to display dialog
>box.
>Any responses coming back from modem such as connect speed are displayed here.
>Try adding &U14 to init string. This worked for me, although I can't explain why, as
>the
>default init string should have produced connection speeds that I was experiencing in
>nt
>and win95
>
This is because windows does some behind the sceans stuff.  if you set
NT to record a log file for the modem, you'll see that there is more
than just the init string passed back and forth between the modem
before it even dials.
tng

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Multilink PPP in Linux with 2 x V90 = 105,333 bps?
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 20:12:57 GMT

On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:53:31 +0000, Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Care to explain how... EQL is NOT ML-PPP and the ML-PPP driver for
>> linux only works in kernel 2.1.36-2.1.48 and was incompleate.  do you
>> know something we don't?

actually, yes.  

the eql driver can bond channels for outgoing traffic ONLY!  and the
channels do not have to be ppp.  you can bond a slip with a ppp or
cslip without much trouble.  but it's out going.

the ml-ppp driver for linux can be found at  http://mp.ins-coin.de/

And I was wrong about the kernel version.  it's 2.1.37 - 2.1.43

tng

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 20:23:46 GMT

On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 02:39:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli)
wrote:

>Mircea ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>: Absolutely right ...
>
>In end result but not in how to get there. :-)
>
>: ... I remember, back in the eighties, about a program in
>: x86 assembler that I had found in some magazine, and spent a whole
>: afternoon typing in, that switched the 286 in protected mode, printed a
>: message on the screen, and went back to real mode, all this w/o any
>: apparent reboot, although a cpu reset was required to switch from
>: protected to real mode. This was just a demo for the "new" operating
>: mode of the 286. Maybe I can find it again in the piles of magazines I
>: have!
>
>
>Please do so. I don't believe you'll find an undocumented reset
>instruction. You will probably find code that sets up BIOS to do a warm
>boot and then asks the keyboard controller to reset the CPU. Later methods
>used special I/O ports and multiple CPU faults. 
>
>Tony
>-- 
>------------------
>Tony Tribelli
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]


actually, what this "undocumented" reset is is simply diliberately
creating a triple fault.  the cpu can catch a double fault and recover
but the cpu resets under a triple fault situation.  the code placed at
the restart point is aware of what happened and gracefully recovers as
if just switching back to real mode.  just like has been explained.

if you want the code, get your old dos 5 disks out and debug himem.sys
since extended memory is only accessable in protected mode, himem.sys
was constatnly swaping back and forth.

tng
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Making Programs SUID root
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 20:39:06 GMT

On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:56:15 GMT, Korny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

this is why I install staroffice 4.x/5.x using the /net option.  I can
then do user bassed installs from the installed directory and only
takes a couple meg per user after the main install.

tng

>Fixing star office is easy... just do chown -R username path_to_soffice and
>chgrp -R user_group path_to_staroffice.  Copy the 2 files in ~root that go
>with star office to your user account home dir... I think one is .sversion,
>and I don't remember what the other is.  Just do ls -la | more, and look for
>them.
>
>To make a program/script run as root, set the suid bit to 4.  e.g. chmod 4755
>program.  This is an obvious security breech.
>
>There is also a program out there that lets you grant certain users permission
>to run root-only programs.  I don't remeber what it's call, though.  (Maybe
>suid?)
>
>
>In article <7bbql3$kl0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I'm not sure if this is the same thing as a program that runs as SUID root,
>> but I have a desktop machine that is running linux which only myself and my
>> wife use.  I'm trying to get away from running as root, and using my own user
>> account, but there are programs that I need to run as root and I was
>> wondering if there is a way that I can change the permissions so that both
>> myself and my wife can run them without running as root.  For example I
>> installed staroffice on my computer, but I installed it using the root
>> account.  Now if I want to run staroffice I have to open an xterm, su to root
>> and then invoke staroffice on the command line.  I'd rather have it set up so
>> that I can use either a kde shortcut or a windowmaker dock to execute the
>> application.  I realize this is a security risk, but this is a desktop
>> machine.  I've turned off all of my inbound network services except ssh, so
>> I'm not all that concerned about being hacked.       Is there any way to do
>this
>> or do I simply have to suck it up and su each time.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brian Seppanen
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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>>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DVD
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 20:32:59 GMT

On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 02:37:34 -0800, "Adam Dickerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Is there any application for RedHat linux that can play DVD movies?
>
>Thanks
>Down with the microsoft!!!
>
>

nop


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.1 make zImage error with RedHat-5.2
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 21:03:13 GMT

On 2 Mar 1999 02:31:36 GMT, Ryan Gaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Please respond via e-mail to this post ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>I am trying to compile a new kernel (in RedHat 5.2), and I keep getting the 
>same error.  I've tried removing all but the most necessary pieces and I 
>still get the error.  I installed the source as follows:
>
># cd /usr/src/
># gzip -cd linux-2.2.1.tar.gz | tar xfv -
>
>then, from /usr/src/linux I do make mrproper and then, of course, a make 
>menuconfig (as I am fairly new to Linux, make config still scares me). I 
>then do a make dep ; make clean followed by make zImage (I've also tried 
>make bzImage, but the same error occurs.)  I have already downloaded and 
>installed all of the packages RedHat says I require.  Did they miss 
>something? Did I miss something? any help here would be appreciated.  The 
>offending process and error are as follows: 
>
>make all_targets
>make[2]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/arch/i386/lib'
>gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes 
>-02 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 
>-malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686  -c -o checksum.o 
>checksum.c
>chucksum.c:200: redefinition of 'csum_partial_copy' 
>checksum.c:105: 'csum_partial_copy' previously defined here
>{standard input}: Assembler messages:
>{standard input}:188: Fatal error: Symbol csum_partial_copy already 
>defined.
>make[2]:*** [checksum.o] Error 1
>make[2]:Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/arch/i386/lib'
>make[1]:*** [first_rule] Error 2
>make[1]:Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/arch/i386/lib'
>make:*** [_dir_arch/i386/lib] Error 2
>
>I notice there is a reference to /usr/src/linux-2.0.36/arch/lib and I am, 
>in fact trying to compile 2.2.1 source. Have I somehow not installed the 
>source correctly or am I missing a symbolic link?  I am a newbie, so please 
>pretend I am an idiot if you have some idea what is wrong and how I can fix 
>it. No instruction is too precise.
>
>Thanks,
>       Ryan Gaul

>------------------  Posted via SearchLinux  ------------------
>                  http://www.searchlinux.com

I would first check your symlinks in /usr/include.
If they are not corect, fix them and try again, if that doesn;t work,
I had to install an updated compiler before my slakware would compile
the 2.2.x kernel.  I was getting that same error until upgrading my
compiler.

hope this helps
tng

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From: "Jeraimee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: GNOME & WindowMaker [was: KDE? Gnome? ... confused]
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 16:17:43 -0500

yup... that's great... I know... got the CVS of e and GNOME compiling now
(hopefully).

Still - is there a site or HOWTO (other than just adding the panel & to your
.x(whatever)) that'll talk more about GNOME and working with OTHER (than e)
WMs?

I like e, but until it's more stable I'll use WindowMaker for day-to-day
stuff...

Jeraimee

Matthias Warkus wrote in message ...
>It was the Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:40:04 -0500...
>..and Jeraimee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is there a web site we can get to that will show us how to integrate
GNOME
>> and other WMs? (WindowMaker specifically)??
>>
>> This topic is driving me nuts! Must have tried 100 different ways to load
>> them...
>
>Gnome 1.0 will have a Control Center capplet to select your window
>manager from a list.
>
>mawa
>--
>Everybody lies about sex. IT'S IN THE MANUAL.
>      -- unintentional juxtaposition in George Lin's follow-up of Adam
>         Hill's posting.  RTFM before fibbing, I guess.



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