Linux-Misc Digest #439, Volume #20 Mon, 31 May 99 20:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Problems with Redhat 6 (Michael Axford)
Linux Counter: 101492 registered Linux users ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: NT the best web platform? ("Chad Mulligan")
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Maciej Stachowiak)
Re: fdisk /MBR ??? ("D. Vrabel")
RH6.0 module sound-slot-1...? (Greg Snow)
Error compiling 2.2.2 kernel ("Bryan Feeney")
Re: How do I compile ncurses? (Scott Smith)
kdat and /dev/st0 ("William B. Cattell")
Re: fdisk /MBR ??? (Paul Anderson)
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From: Michael Axford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Problems with Redhat 6
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:21:38 +0100
For Kde i think if you read the documentation on the kde website you can
use the redhat 5.x rpms for kde but you must uninstall the pre - release
rpms that you currently have on your system.
personally I would use Gnome instead, I used to use Kde but having used
Gnome for about a week now I much prefer it.
--
Mike Axford
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undergraduate, Computer Engineering
University Of Southampton, England
God Loves You !!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Counter: 101492 registered Linux users
Date: 31 May 1999 23:00:07 GMT
This is the monthly report from the Linux Usage Counter.
It is posted on the 1st of every month on the newsgroup
comp.os.linux.misc
Registration and information is available via the World
Wide Web; connect to URL http://counter.li.org/
This is the preferred interface to the counter.
NOTE: You can UPDATE your record in the counter if you have
your registration key, which was sent to you when you registered.
EMAIL:
To enter your registration into the statistics, send an E-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], with the SUBJECT line being one of
I use Linux at home
I use Linux at work
I use Linux at school
The reply will contain information about how to register more
information about yourself, your machine and your friends, if you
want to.
If you can't do Web, you can get the reports by sending the counter
an E-mail containing in the BODY one of the lines
//REPORT short
//REPORT persons
//REPORT machines
//HELP
Any questions should be adressed to the maintainer of the counter,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good luck!
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This is the Linux Counter summary as of Mon May 31 17:40:26 1999
There are 101492 persons registerd.
3018 users have been registered by friends.
There are 55256 machines registered.
I guesstimate that between 0.2% and 5% of all Linux users have
registered with the Linux Counter.
So the total number of Linux users is probably between
2,029,840 and 50,746,000 people.
WHERE LINUX USERS LIVE
The table is sorted by number of Linux users divided by population
No Country Pers Fri Mach P/Mpop Mpop
======================================================================
1 NO Norway 2424 50 1015 552.9 4.4
2 FI Finland 2690 57 1296 526.9 5.1
3 AQ Antarctica 2 0 0 486.0 0.0
4 DK Denmark 2213 16 788 421.6 5.2
5 IS Iceland 113 4 67 418.1 0.3
6 SE Sweden 3384 62 1591 380.2 8.9
7 GI Gibraltar 8 1 11 278.1 0.0
8 SI Slovenia 487 8 123 249.6 2.0
9 EE Estonia 311 17 210 213.1 1.5
10 NL Netherlands 2891 51 1306 185.7 15.6
11 CA Canada 4486 83 2097 155.7 28.8
12 AT Austria 1217 31 624 151.7 8.0
13 AU Australia 2526 49 1322 138.3 18.3
14 US USA 34602 17 16338 129.9 266.5
15 NZ New Zealand 446 3 289 125.7 3.5
16 CH Switzerland 863 15 451 119.7 7.2
17 FO Faroe Islands 5 0 2 114.0 0.0
18 HU Hungary 1123 47 637 112.3 10.0
19 BE Belgium 1102 525 532 108.4 10.2
20 LU Luxembourg 44 0 12 105.8 0.4
21 DE Germany 8111 186 3966 97.1 83.5
22 MC Monaco 3 1 3 94.6 0.0
23 IE Ireland 335 5 170 93.9 3.6
24 GL Greenland 5 0 1 85.9 0.1
25 SG Singapore 263 7 103 77.4 3.4
26 GB Great Britain 4458 110 2151 76.2 58.5
27 IL Israel 411 14 168 75.8 5.4
28 VG Virgin Islands (British) 1 0 0 75.8 0.0
29 FR France 4161 114 1423 71.4 58.3
30 AD Andorra 5 0 0 68.7 0.1
31 ES Spain 2670 33 690 68.1 39.2
32 PT Portugal 611 10 237 61.9 9.9
33 CY Cyprus 40 0 5 53.7 0.7
34 KR Korea (South) 2208 17 299 48.5 45.5
35 HR Croatia 234 6 60 46.8 5.0
36 GR Greece 456 15 170 43.3 10.5
37 GU Guam 6 0 0 38.2 0.2
38 LT Lithuania 139 3 72 38.1 3.6
39 CZ Czech Republic 389 16 235 37.7 10.3
40 UY Uruguay 115 0 23 35.5 3.2
41 IT Italy 2011 65 758 35.0 57.5
42 MT Malta 13 0 6 34.6 0.4
43 BM Bermuda 2 0 4 32.2 0.1
44 LI Liechtenstein 1 0 3 32.1 0.0
45 KY Cayman Islands 1 0 2 28.9 0.0
46 PL Poland 1103 55 744 28.5 38.6
47 BB Barbados 7 0 2 27.2 0.3
48 BN Brunei 8 0 3 26.7 0.3
49 CR Costa Rica 81 0 35 23.4 3.5
50 BZ Belize 5 0 5 22.8 0.2
51 SK Slovakia 122 1 87 22.7 5.4
52 MV Maldives 6 0 1 22.2 0.3
53 BG Bulgaria 185 6 81 21.5 8.6
54 BR Brazil 3346 53 733 20.6 162.7
55 MP Northern Mariana Islands 1 0 1 19.1 0.1
56 TW Taiwan 409 4 151 19.1 21.5
57 RO Romania 406 36 201 18.7 21.7
58 MH Marshall Islands 1 0 0 17.1 0.1
59 LV Latvia 41 0 30 16.6 2.5
60 MY Malaysia 308 7 75 15.4 20.0
61 ZA South Africa 627 12 280 15.0 41.7
62 AW Aruba 1 0 0 14.8 0.1
63 AR Argentina 506 7 138 14.6 34.7
64 CL Chile 193 6 76 13.5 14.3
65 SC Seychelles 1 0 0 12.9 0.1
66 TT Trinidad and Tobago 16 0 4 12.6 1.3
67 BS Bahamas 3 0 0 11.6 0.3
68 NC New Caledonia 2 0 8 10.7 0.2
69 VI Virgin Islands (U.S.) 1 0 0 10.3 0.1
70 MQ Martinique 4 0 1 10.0 0.4
71 KW Kuwait 19 0 4 9.7 2.0
72 AN Netherlands Antilles 2 0 1 9.6 0.2
73 PF French Polynesia 2 0 2 8.9 0.2
74 TN Tunisia 79 0 11 8.8 9.0
75 YU Yugoslavia (Serbia and Monte 94 6 55 8.7 10.8
76 PR Puerto Rico 33 0 11 8.6 3.8
77 BH Bahrain 5 0 3 8.5 0.6
78 RU Russia 1253 35 511 8.5 148.2
79 NA Namibia 14 0 10 8.3 1.7
80 PA Panama 22 0 10 8.3 2.7
81 MO Macau 4 0 0 8.1 0.5
82 FM Micronesia, Federated States 1 0 0 8.0 0.1
83 MU Mauritius 8 0 2 7.0 1.1
84 VE Venezuela 153 0 59 7.0 22.0
85 MK Macedonia 14 2 4 6.7 2.1
86 JP Japan 829 7 224 6.6 125.4
87 RE Reunion 4 0 1 5.9 0.7
88 AE United Arab Emirates 18 1 7 5.9 3.1
89 VU Vanuatu 1 0 3 5.6 0.2
90 QA Qatar 3 1 1 5.5 0.5
91 UA Ukraine 268 9 118 5.3 50.9
92 TR Turkey 329 5 118 5.3 62.5
93 MX Mexico 493 17 213 5.1 95.8
94 BA Bosnia and Herzegovina 13 0 1 4.9 2.7
95 PY Paraguay 26 0 8 4.7 5.5
96 CO Colombia 170 2 57 4.6 36.8
97 SR Suriname 2 0 2 4.6 0.4
98 BY Belarus 42 5 17 4.0 10.4
99 AM Armenia 13 0 5 3.8 3.5
100 BW Botswana 5 0 2 3.4 1.5
101 JM Jamaica 8 0 2 3.1 2.6
102 TH Thailand 179 3 62 3.0 58.9
103 MD Moldova 13 0 5 2.9 4.5
104 PH Philippines 203 4 37 2.7 74.5
105 BO Bolivia 18 0 3 2.5 7.2
106 HN Honduras 14 0 5 2.5 5.6
107 CU Cuba 27 5 16 2.5 11.0
108 EC Ecuador 27 0 6 2.4 11.5
109 OM Oman 5 0 0 2.3 2.2
110 LB Lebanon 8 1 5 2.1 3.8
111 PE Peru 48 0 13 2.0 24.5
112 GA Gabon 2 0 2 1.7 1.2
113 MN Mongolia 4 0 3 1.6 2.5
114 GY Guyana 1 0 0 1.4 0.7
115 GT Guatemala 14 0 5 1.2 11.3
116 DO Dominican Republic 10 0 3 1.2 8.1
117 KZ Kazakhstan 20 0 10 1.2 16.9
118 SV El Salvador 6 0 13 1.0 5.8
119 JO Jordan 4 0 1 0.9 4.2
120 PG Papua New Guinea 4 0 1 0.9 4.4
121 SA Saudi Arabia 17 0 9 0.9 19.4
122 GM Gambia 1 0 0 0.8 1.2
123 ZW Zimbabwe 9 0 5 0.8 11.3
124 ZM Zambia 7 0 4 0.8 9.2
125 LK Sri Lanka 14 1 2 0.8 18.6
126 ID Indonesia 151 34 58 0.7 206.6
127 KG Kyrgyzstan 3 0 1 0.7 4.5
128 CN China 799 3 156 0.7 1210.0
129 UZ Uzbekistan 15 0 4 0.6 23.4
130 AL Albania 2 2 3 0.6 3.2
131 EG Egypt 39 1 6 0.6 63.6
132 IN India 559 16 185 0.6 952.1
133 MA Morocco 16 0 8 0.5 29.8
134 NI Nicaragua 2 0 0 0.5 4.3
135 MR Mauritania 1 0 0 0.4 2.3
136 AZ Azerbaijan 3 0 2 0.4 7.7
137 GE Georgia 2 0 18 0.4 5.2
138 CI Cote d'Ivoire 5 0 1 0.3 14.8
139 CF Central African Republic 1 0 0 0.3 3.3
140 PK Pakistan 39 5 7 0.3 129.3
141 MZ Mozambique 5 0 2 0.3 17.9
142 KE Kenya 7 0 2 0.2 28.2
143 VN Vietnam 18 0 2 0.2 74.0
144 SN Senegal 2 0 0 0.2 9.1
145 MG Madagascar 3 0 1 0.2 13.7
146 TG Togo 1 0 0 0.2 4.6
147 CM Cameroon 3 0 2 0.2 14.3
148 LA Laos 1 0 1 0.2 5.0
149 KH Cambodia 2 0 1 0.2 10.9
150 LY Libya 1 0 1 0.2 5.4
151 NP Nepal 4 0 0 0.2 22.1
152 RW Rwanda 1 0 0 0.1 6.9
153 TZ Tanzania 4 0 0 0.1 29.1
154 IR Iran 9 0 9 0.1 66.1
155 BD Bangladesh 7 0 4 0.1 123.1
156 ET Ethiopia 3 0 0 0.1 57.2
157 UG Uganda 1 0 0 0.0 20.2
158 XW The World (Somewhere in it) 224 212 1 0.0 5771.9
159 DZ Algeria 1 0 0 0.0 29.2
160 NG Nigeria 3 0 1 0.0 103.9
161 WF Wallis and Futuna Islands 1 0 1 0.0 0.0
WHERE PEOPLE USE LINUX
Place Users Percent
==============================
school 18132 18.09%
home 88476 88.29%
not used 18 0.02%
work 39010 38.93%
somewhere 2840 2.83%
==============================
TOTAL 100214 100.00%
NOTE: The total is the 100214 users who answered this question.
Some gave more than one answer, so the number of answers is 148476
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From: "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:15:18 -0700
Jimmy Navarro wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>If NT is the best web platform, it has to be available for free. Be sure
your
>NT has no memory leak.
>
it is free. That's been fixed.
>
>Anthony Ord wrote:
>
>> On 26 May 1999 23:12:46 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon
>> Drukman) wrote:
>>
>> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Olaf Walkowiak
wrote:
>> >>If you have a lot of dynamic content, exspecially when using custom
>> >>modules with mod_perl or something, using Squid can reduce the
>> >>necessary Apache childs, especially if there are lots of "slow"
>> >>clients. This can reduce memory consumption.
>> >
>> >If you're going to use Squid, you should give it all the memory you
>> >can spare.
>> >
>> >I'm not sure what you mean by "dynamic" content here. If the content
>> >is truly dynamic (in my mind that means it is different on each request)
>> >then you *cannot* cache it with something like squid, because that would
>> >defeat the entire point. Now if you mean the pages are mostly static
>> >but do change from time to time, then I'm with you.
>>
>> Let's say the results depend on 3 files, with modification
>> dates of 1/5/99, 2/5/99 & 3/5/99 (uk format). I can put a
>> Last-Modified of 3/5/99 and cache it for as long as it
>> doesn't change.
>>
>> >We use squid specifically to accelerate our *static* content. Each
pageview
>> >has something like 30 associated images. Squid makes a fantastic
"images
>> >only" server. It has low overhead compared to Apache.
>> >
>> >Throw it on a separate box with a ton of RAM and you will double or
triple
>> >your Apache boxes' capacity instantly. Squid+Apache is a great solution
>> >for high volume sites.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Anthony
>> --
>> -----------------------------------------
>> | And when our worlds |
>> | They fall apart |
>> | When the walls come tumbling in |
>> | Though we may deserve it |
>> | It will be worth it - Depeche Mode |
>> -----------------------------------------
>
>--
>
> .--.
> |o_o |
> |:_/ |
> // \ \
> (| | )
>/'\_ _/`\
>\___)=(___/
>
>
>
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From: Maciej Stachowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 31 May 1999 14:57:44 -0400
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> >>>>> "Maciej" == Maciej Stachowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Maciej> A) I'm not claiming Switzerland is the ideal model, or
> Maciej> that their model even scales to larger and more culturally
> Maciej> heterogenous countries. I am claiming that the high
> Maciej> availability of guns in a society is not even demonstrated
> Maciej> to have a correlation with a high rate of violent crime by
> Maciej> the example of Western Europe.
>
> You are correct. Cross-cultural comparisons such as the one made
> between Suisse & the US are generally useless.
Or such as the one between England and the US or between France and
the US or between Japan and the US, etc.
> The reason the Swiss are able to keep guns in every closet & still
> have a safe society is that they had the necessary social structure
> in place to begin with.
Ah, but there you go assuming you know what cultural factors are
relevant, even though a great many differ. It would be an interesting
experiment to examine the incidence of violent crime among US
residents of Swiss descent vs. the general US population and vs. the
Swiss population, thus isolating the factor of "social structure" from
other, more vague sociocultural factors.
> In any event, it's obviously stupid to claim that firearms in the hall
> closet reduce the incidence of assaults and rapes outside the home
> (the argument of the RTKBA'ers here).
??? Please quote me a single person who made that argument. Certainly
people have claimed that concealed carry of small arms reduces the
incidence of rape and assault outside the home and presented some
statistics to back that up. Others argued that increased gun ownership
leading to less crime was a local minimum of sorts, that a society
that had practically no gun availability to the general public would
have even lower rates of violent crime.
> The US is a violent country, with its entire history dedicated to
> the celebration of violence.
Oh please. I am a native European by birth and I would sooner walk the
streets of Boston at night than the streets of Budapest. The majority
of Americans are quite decent people. How many times have you been
outside of the US? If you find the view from Portland that ghastly,
you'd better not go out and look at other countries without bringing
your heart medication.
> Gun control is simply a first step in ending that worship of
> violence.
Ah, I see you have the hubris of a would-be social engineer. You think
you can reason out from first principles exactly what the social
ramifications will be of huge new laws forbidding something you don't
like. You remind me of the people who think banning pornography of
certain sorts will eradicate the desire of certain men to commit
sexual violence.
> As we can see from this discussion, most Americans, no
> what their class or race, still consider killing as the best method
> of "crimefighting."
Frankly, if someone were actively trying to kill or seriously hurt me
I hope I'd have the means and courage to frag their ass, if the police
were not around to do it for me. And I can tell you in all sincerity
that I am the most nonviolent, conflict-avoiding person I have ever
met.
What solution would you suggest in such a situation? Assuming I don't
have time to call in a crack team of social workers, psychologists and
other would-be social engineers to counsel the attacker and solve the
"root causes" of his desire to be violent towards me?
- Maciej Stachowiak
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: fdisk /MBR ???
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:55:08 +0100
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Frank v Waveren wrote:
> AFAIK, CHS means the physical cylinders/heads/sectors, while LBA uses virtual
> cylinders/heads/sectors to partially overcome the 1024 problem.
CHS used to be the actual cylinder, head and sector. CHS no longer refers
to physical cylinders etc. but virtual ones which are translated into the
physical locations by the drive itself.
LBA (Linear block addressing) numbers all the blocks sequentially. The
drive mades the linear address to physical
sectors.
David Vrabel
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From: Greg Snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH6.0 module sound-slot-1...?
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:23:18 -0700
I've got everything seemingly working okay with RedHat 6.0 with Linux
2.2.5-15, but at the initial Gnome startup, I get :
modprobe: can't locate module sound-slot-1
modprobe: can't locate module sound-service-1-0
I'm not sure if this is coming from Gnome or Enlightenment. The Gnome
sounds seem to be fine. I think I've heard a few new sounds when
enabling Enlightenment sound, but their documentation is a bit sparse on
what to expect.
Does anyone know if there are any alias definitions required, or do I
need more modules (and where to get them).
Thanks in advance
Greg
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From: "Bryan Feeney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Error compiling 2.2.2 kernel
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:58:56 +0100
Every time I try to compile the new 2.2.2 kernel
with make zImage,I get an error telling me that
csum_partial_copy is already defined.The last 5
lines are
make[2]: *** [checksum.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36.SuSE/arch/i386/lib'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36.SuSE/arch/i386/lib'
make: *** [_dir_arch/i386/lib] Error 2
Despite the name of the directory it is the location
of the 2.2.2 kernel.
Before I made the zImage, I made mrproper, xconfig and dep.
I used no modules, though they were enabled (just in case), as
was the loader.
Can anyone tell me whats wrong. I've pretty standard hardware,
a Pentium II, 2GB IDE ext2 partition, Mach64 graphics on a
Rage Pro, PCI Yamaha sound card. I've had no problems compiling
the 2.0.36 kernel that came with my distribution (SuSE 6.0).
Thanks a lot
Bryan Feeney
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Smith)
Subject: Re: How do I compile ncurses?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:40:24 GMT
On Mon, 31 May 1999 10:25:28 +0200, Chris Fanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>How do I compile ncurses?
>Thanks for your help.
>Chris.
Are you trying to build ncurses on your system?
If so, get ncurses from your favorite archive, untar it, move into the
directory it made, do "./configure" and then "make". As root,
"make install".
If you're wanting to write ncurses programs, get the document
"Writing Programs with NCURSES" (found throughout the web) and also take
a look at the examples that come with ncurses.
If it is simply the compilation of a program that uses ncurses,
gcc -I/directory/to/ncurses/headers/if/necessary -o hello hello.c -lncurses
Good luck,
--
Scott Lacy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Student of Computer Science
"Nullus Anxietas" Denton, Texas, US
The University of North Texas
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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: kdat and /dev/st0
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:53:52 GMT
I have been backing up my Linux machine with tar -cvl for a few
weeks with no problems. I have the TAPE=/dev/st0 defined and
exported in etc/profile. Everything works fine from a command
line.
I've just installed KDE 1.1.1 and I'm trying to use kdat. I've
gone into preferences and told kdat to use /dev/st0 which it has
accepted and saved. If I try to mount a tape kdat tells me
there's no tape in the drive. I can open a shell and tar to it
from a command line no problems though.
The question - what device would I need to tell kdat to use? I
didn't think /dev/st0 was the rewind device (I thought that was
/dev/nt0). Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
TIA,
Bill
--
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Park not thy Harley in the darkness of thine garage, that it
may collect dust for want of being oft ridden. Ride thy Harley
with thy brethren, and rejoice in the spirit of the road.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: fdisk /MBR ???
Date: 31 May 1999 14:11:25 -0400
"Christopher R. Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>If I want
>the "MBR" to be just exactly the size of vmlinuz it will be.
>
No, it won't - not without completely rewriting the BIOS and ignoring existing
standards. The MBR is 512 bytes, that's it. TTYL!
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