Linux-Misc Digest #439, Volume #25 Sun, 13 Aug 00 21:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
Hard Drive is Lieing. (N/A)
Turning off the keyboard bell in X. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: KPPP Question (Lvis)
Re: Problem w/jdk 1.1.7 ("Peter T. Breuer")
setting up tin (Peter Bismuti)
Re: Help: Backspacing in Terminal Input (blowfish)
Re: Problem w/jdk 1.1.7 (Gordito Rascali)
Re: KVM Mouse Problems (Michael Meding)
Re: Turning off the keyboard bell in X. (Dances With Crows)
loadlin and DOS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: mounting remote filesystem ("mark price")
sshd/Linux problems ("Michael P. Rogers")
Re: Help: Backspacing in Terminal Input (Bob Hauck)
Re: setting up tin (Bob Hauck)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problem with 'mount' in kernel 2.4.0-test5 (softrat`)
converting win partition to Linux...safely? (Peter Bismuti)
Re: converting win partition to Linux...safely? (Prasanth A. Kumar)
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 13 Aug 2000 18:34:46 -0400
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Robert Krawitz wrote:
> >
> > blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > To the average real human beings at large. Source code is as
> > > readable as what I've put up here. ;-)
> >
> > For the Nth time, so what?
> >
> So what!?
>
> So, It's *NOT* a speech, or expression for the *REAL* human. ;-)
Since when is "speech" restricted to expression that only "normal"
people use? That's not how the courts have defined "speech", and it
really wouldn't make much sense to do so.
--
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--Eric Crampton
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hard Drive is Lieing.
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:30:46 GMT
i have deleted linux completly and re-installed windows, i dont have
access to or to create a windows startup disk for some reason but anyway
Windows says i now have a smaller hard drive than i actually have, linux
is respsonsible for this, i even used partition magic on Mandrake 7.0. to
clear it and it stills says i have a smaller disk space. why and how can i
fix it?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Turning off the keyboard bell in X.
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:42:38 GMT
Hi, how can I turn off completely the keyboard bell in X? I can do it
using GNOME, but now I'm not using GNOME (using sawmill alone). I have
an executable called xkbbell on my system.. I thought it might do the
trick but it does not have any documentation with it.
Thanks,
-- john
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Lvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KPPP Question
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:14:45 -0500
MaryP wrote:
> In article <8n4npg$aqm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Lvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I am new to Linux, I am trying the WinLinux 2000. The kppp seems to dial and
> > logon to my ISP OK, but from there the Netscape that was packaged with the
> > OS gives me error messages that it cannot find the server for the page I am
> > trying to load.
> > I have tried many attempts at configuring the dialer, but still Netscape
> > cannot find any servers.
>
> I have not used WinLinux, but when I had this problem it meant the file
> /etc/resolv.conf did not contain my ISP's DNS server numbers. If you do
> not know how to edit files by hand, first try to find where in WinLinux
> those numbers should have been entered in the graphic user interface, and
> be sure to put them in.
>
> MP
Thanks for your input Mary. I had tried this a number of times already. What
seems to have ended up successfull for me was to log on as root and then set up
dialer and all was fine. I do not understand why it suddenly now functions
properly, only that it does.
Mike.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem w/jdk 1.1.7
Date: 13 Aug 2000 23:17:39 GMT
William W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I've installed the version of jdk1.1.7 that's part of the current Debian
: stable release. I let apt set everything up, and it didn't produce any
: errors. Whenever I try to run javac, java or any of the other binaries,
: I get the following error (newlines added by me):
: /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../bin/i686/green_threads/java: error in loading
: shared libraries:
: /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../lib/i686/green_threads/libjava.so: undefined
: symbol: _dl_symbol_value
: Anyone seen this before? I'm running with glibc 2.1.3; do I perhaps
: need libc5 support for this?
Ask the maintainer. That's what he's for.
fwiw I have a debian potato and it works fine for me:
doc008:/usr/oboe/ptb% java -version
java version "1.1.7B"
doc008:/usr/oboe/ptb% dpkg -l jdk1.1
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Description
+++-===============-==============-============================================
ii jdk1.1 1.1.7v3-1 JDK 1.1.x (Java Development Kit) - Runtime o
The debian binaries are libc6.
doc008:/usr/oboe/ptb% ldd /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/ia32/native_threads/java
/lib/nfslock.so.0 => /lib/nfslock.so.0 (0x40002000)
libjava.so => not found
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x4000a000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4001b000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40038000)
libawt.so => not found
libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x4003b000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40049000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40091000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x400a7000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400b0000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400bc000)
libXp.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6 (0x4015d000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40166000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000)
The missing libs are defined by LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the script. By any
chance are you running the binaries directly? Nooooooooooo.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: setting up tin
Date: 13 Aug 2000 23:31:30 GMT
What is the best way to set up news using tin, using rtin (tin -r) and
NNTP? Nntpd?
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Help: Backspacing in Terminal Input
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:40:42 -0700
Oliver Gebele wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> i have access to several linux-pc's
> (SuSE 6.1-6.4, standard installation, TERM=linux)
> and like to run a fortran program.
>
> Keyboard input is with read(*,*) in fortran
> and on _some_ systems i simply cannot "DELETE"
> aka BACKSPACE but get ^H instead.
>
> I have no idea why, any ideas?
>
What kind of keybroad are you using?
Check your keybroad mapping.
> TIA, Oliver
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lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.
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From: Gordito Rascali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem w/jdk 1.1.7
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:41:28 -0400
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> William W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I've installed the version of jdk1.1.7 that's part of the current Debian
> : stable release. I let apt set everything up, and it didn't produce any
> : errors. Whenever I try to run javac, java or any of the other binaries,
> : I get the following error (newlines added by me):
>
> : /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../bin/i686/green_threads/java: error in loading
> : shared libraries:
> : /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/../lib/i686/green_threads/libjava.so: undefined
> : symbol: _dl_symbol_value
>
> : Anyone seen this before? I'm running with glibc 2.1.3; do I perhaps
> : need libc5 support for this?
>
> Ask the maintainer. That's what he's for.
>
> fwiw I have a debian potato and it works fine for me:
>
> doc008:/usr/oboe/ptb% java -version
> java version "1.1.7B"
>
> doc008:/usr/oboe/ptb% dpkg -l jdk1.1
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name Version Description
> +++-===============-==============-============================================
> ii jdk1.1 1.1.7v3-1 JDK 1.1.x (Java Development Kit) - Runtime o
>
> The debian binaries are libc6.
>
> doc008:/usr/oboe/ptb% ldd /usr/lib/jdk1.1/bin/ia32/native_threads/java
> /lib/nfslock.so.0 => /lib/nfslock.so.0 (0x40002000)
> libjava.so => not found
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x4000a000)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4001b000)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40038000)
> libawt.so => not found
> libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x4003b000)
> libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40049000)
> libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40091000)
> libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x400a7000)
> libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x400b0000)
> libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x400bc000)
> libXp.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXp.so.6 (0x4015d000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40166000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000)
>
> The missing libs are defined by LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the script. By any
> chance are you running the binaries directly? Nooooooooooo.
>
> Peter
There's a difference between native and green threads. Sun has some info on their
page regarding this.
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From: Michael Meding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: KVM Mouse Problems
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:56:44 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi there,
do you have GPM running ? This is often a cause for trouble, can you
check that out ?
Regards
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Turning off the keyboard bell in X.
Date: 14 Aug 2000 00:22:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:42:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi, how can I turn off completely the keyboard bell in X? I can do it
>using GNOME, but now I'm not using GNOME (using sawmill alone). I have
>an executable called xkbbell on my system.. I thought it might do the
>trick but it does not have any documentation with it.
"xset -b off" could be what you want. "man xset" as there are a few
nifty things that program can do.
--
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: loadlin and DOS
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:48:02 -0500
Not really a linux question, but is there a way to use loadlin to boot a
DOS partition? Or is there similar program that will do it? I have a
second bootable DOS partition. LILO will boot it just fine, but I'm
looking for something that doesn't require a change to the MBR or the use
of a floppy.
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From: "mark price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mounting remote filesystem
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:14:38 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, root
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a laptop running Linux Mandrake 7.1 and desktop running RedHat
> 6.1. I setup the exports files on both system. I am able to mount my
> desktops exported directory on my laptop, but when I try to mount my
> laptop's exported directory on my desktop, it says "mount: RPC: RPC not
> registered" I can't figure out how to fix this. I tried reinstalling
> knfsd... and killing and restarting portmap and nfs. I also noticed
> that a process called [rpciod] is running on my laptop and not my
> desktop, don't know what that means. Please help. Thanks.
>
> If possible, please email responses to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or post.
> Thanks.
>
A quick stab:
try "/usr/sbin/rpcinfo -p <laptop's hostname or ip address>
on your desktop after makeing sure that your laptop's config files are set
up correctly, and that the appropriate line in your desktop's /etc/fstab is
correctly written. Your desktop might need to update it's list of available
imports.
Mark
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From: "Michael P. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: sshd/Linux problems
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:31:35 -0500
Hello,
I'm using Redhat 6.2 and sshd 2.1.1p1, or trying to. When I connnect
(using F-Secure SSH client) I get a message in the log that says:
[sshd]: Protocol Error: Packet too long -234245325 (or some other long
negative number).
I just used Redhat's rpms, rather than compile anything myself.
Any idea what's causing this problem? I've inquired in
comp.security.ssh, but nobody there seemed to know :-(
TIA,
Michael
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Help: Backspacing in Terminal Input
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:43:48 GMT
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:07:51 +0200, Oliver Gebele
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Keyboard input is with read(*,*) in fortran
>and on _some_ systems i simply cannot "DELETE"
>aka BACKSPACE but get ^H instead.
>
>I have no idea why, any ideas?
man stty. You may need to change the mapping for the "erase"
character. As a workaround, try typing Ctrl-H or Ctrl-DEL.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: setting up tin
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:43:49 GMT
On 13 Aug 2000 23:31:30 GMT, Peter Bismuti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What is the best way to set up news using tin, using rtin (tin -r) and
>NNTP? Nntpd?
export NNTPSERVER=your.news.server
tin -r
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:51:37 +0100
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> More words of wisdom from another free-loader (GNUed-GPLed humanoid using
> freenet.)
OOOO! Another unfounded insult from the clueless Mr Fish...
Care to enlighten us all on how much money I spand on internet access a
month then, seeing as you know it all?
While you're at it, tell me how much I spent to get this Linux distro.
> What difference does it made? It's just to illustrate a point.
What point would that be? That you don't know how to make a valid argument?
> To the average real human beings at large. Source code is as readable as what I've
> put up here. ;-)
Balls.
Never heard of the /*comment*/?
All good source code has it.
Even if they can't understand what the code itself does, the comments will
explain it.
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From: softrat` <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Problem with 'mount' in kernel 2.4.0-test5
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:50:06 -0700
Robert Lynch wrote:
>
> softrat` wrote:
> >
> > I downloaded the source for mount-2.20f-1 and installed the package (so
> > I thought). Now I can't find the source code. An rpm query doesn't
> > report the source package loaded either. But the package load went on
> > without complaint.
>
> Do you mean an src.rpm?
Yes.
> Installing this
As I said, I think that I did this.
> places the sources in /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES, and the spec file in
> /usr/src/redhat/SPECS.
>
There is no 'mount' source code there as far as I can tell.
'/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES' has a bunch of obsolete code in it for
kernel 2.2.14-something. That's at least two kernel versions back.
> You would then build the binaries with "rpm -bb --clean
> mount.spec"; when done these would be placed in
> /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386 (typically).
>
>From which directory(s) do I perform all this magic?
> HTH. Bob L.
Still hanging in there, flailing away!
the softrat
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: converting win partition to Linux...safely?
Date: 14 Aug 2000 00:44:45 GMT
I have a win partition that I'd like to scrap and convert to a
ext2 filesystem in a safe manner such that, assuming I don't screw up,
I can leave my linux partitions intact. Can this be done?
Assuming I make it past this step, in order to access this partition
when booting into Linux do I simply need to add an entry to /etc/fstab
and/or /etc/mtab?
Thanks!
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Subject: Re: converting win partition to Linux...safely?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:09:20 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti) writes:
> I have a win partition that I'd like to scrap and convert to a
> ext2 filesystem in a safe manner such that, assuming I don't screw up,
> I can leave my linux partitions intact. Can this be done?
>
> Assuming I make it past this step, in order to access this partition
> when booting into Linux do I simply need to add an entry to /etc/fstab
> and/or /etc/mtab?
>
> Thanks!
Unlike Windows, Linux doesn't reorder your file structure willy-nilly
just because you added a new partition. There are no drive letters,
just mount points which you set to your liking.
The way to convert it over is under Linux, run fdisk and and change
that partition's type to ext2. Then save the changes and use mkext2fs
to format the partition and finally, add it to /etc/fstab. The
/etc/mtab only lists what partitions are currently mounted and
dynamically modified by the mount command so you don't edit it.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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