Linux-Misc Digest #510, Volume #20 Sun, 6 Jun 99 00:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can't connect to my ISP yet, here's the pppd-output... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
What could it be? Help needed (Denis)
Re: Dead penguin
Re: Rebuilding SRPMs (Johan Kullstam)
Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? (Alex Lam)
IBM VisualAge for Java for Linux!!! (Judah Diament)
Re: Does WABI work in Red Hat Linux 6.0? (J. Otto Tennant)
Re: ESS1868 installation under 2.2.x ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ())
How do I configure sound in SUSE Linux 6.1? (Raymond Li)
Re: Making an ICQ server ("glenn")
Re: Netscape 4.51 Crashes When Java Starts (mrmanny)
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Justin B Willoughby)
Re: OpenLinux (John Hong)
sndconfig: dsp failed to rest ("jb")
Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? (Peter Eddy)
Re: GCC Compatibility (bowman)
Re: Basic setup? What do I need ? (David M. Cook)
Re: OpenLinux (Patrick Dunford)
Re: How do I configure sound in SUSE Linux 6.1? ("Robert C. Paulsen, Jr.")
Re: What could it be? Help needed (Pat Heuvel)
Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes? (Bev)
Re: OpenLinux ("Prasanth Kumar")
Re: crontab help (almost there!) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Can't connect to my ISP yet, here's the pppd-output...
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 01:30:37 GMT
In article <7ja67d$825$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <7j92tv$p8h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Melle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>]Hi,
>]it's me again and the problem is still alive ... I can't connect to my ISP
>]running RH5.2.
>]But I got the idea of posting the pppd-output, maybe one of you out there
>]can do something with it to help me ;-)) It would be great.
>
>]Here it is:
>]----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>]-------------------
>]Jun 4 19:19:18 PC pppd[456]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
>]Jun 4 19:19:18 PC pppd[456]: Using interface ppp0
>]Jun 4 19:19:18 PC pppd[456]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS3
>]Jun 4 19:19:18 PC pppd[456]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <magic 0xfba16783>
>]<pcomp> <accomp>]
>]Jun 4 19:19:21 PC pppd[456]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <magic 0xfba16783>
>]<pcomp> <accomp>]
>]Jun 4 19:19:21 PC pppd[456]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0 <asyncmap 0x0> <auth
>]chap 80> <magic 0x7d7f> <pcomp> <accomp>]
>]Jun 4 19:19:21 PC pppd[456]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x0 <asyncmap 0x0> <auth
>]chap 80> <magic 0x7d7f> <pcomp> <accomp>]
>]Jun 4 19:19:21 PC pppd[456]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <magic 0xfba16783>
>]<pcomp> <accomp>]
>]Jun 4 19:19:44 PC pppd[456]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
>]Jun 4 19:19:44 PC pppd[456]: Modem hangup
>]Jun 4 19:19:44 PC pppd[456]: Connection terminated.
>]Jun 4 19:19:45 PC pppd[456]: Exit.
>]----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>]-------------
>
>
>Get rid of kppp. I still do not know why people use it-- it seems to
>cause more problems than it is worth.
>
>Just write a script to give your ISP what it wants. See
>axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
>for instructions as to how to do it.
There can be all kinds of problems connecting to an ISP. In my case, when
I upgraded to a 2.2 kernel I could still connect to my ISP (sirius.com),
but about all I could do was ping! No telnet, no web browsing. Turns out
I had to set 'novj' as an option, another user gave me that tip and saved
me having to go through by trial and error (like he did, I tried to send
him email to thank him profusely, but never decoded his address correctly).
But, even though it works for me, it only works on some numbers with my
ISP. As a matter of fact, it works on the numbers I'm NOT supposed to use
with my V90 modem, with other numbers, I make the connection, login in
with the password, then it kicks me off. The ISP won't help me because
they only offer support for Macs and that other !&%#@ company. I'm on,
but it's half by black magic.
--
Praeterea censeo Micromolle non esse utendum.
("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used." A toned down
adaptation of a sig from Cato the Elder regarding the city of Carthage.
---- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----
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From: Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What could it be? Help needed
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:23:26 -0400
hi,
I encountered a problem that I don't understand at all.
It's a problem with my ISP connection, which before worked
just fine for many months.
Here it is:
I CAN
connect to my school (ISP) via a modem, can surve the web (with
Netscape, for example), can read/post to newsgroups like this one,
BUT I CAN'T
withdraw emails from the school, nor can I even telnet it from a terminal
window - in Win95 on the other hand everything remains fine, there both
things work. I also tried telneting to another account - it worked and then
from that account to the one where my email is - it worked, too.
(when trying to get new mail, I get "Server was not found",
when "[denis@localhost denis]$ telnet godzilla.acpub.duke.edu", I get
"godzilla.acpub.duke.edu: Host name lookup failure ")
my linux experiences are driving me crazy, if somebody can please help me
understand what is going on?
thanks a lot.
Denis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Dead penguin
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 01:53:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
One of the Sussmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
....<snip>...
>Give root password for maintenance or type Control -D for manual
>startup
>
>Linux is on hda3 & hda4 (/usr). I'm using RH 5.2 (Mandrake 5.3
>distro). Oh, & I'm an idiot when it comes to Linux. I can't
>seem to
>run fsck (or much else) in this mode. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Well, I've run into this. You don't say if you gave the root password
or not to drop into the shell, but if you did, just type the
command:
e2fsck /dev/hda4 (this presumes that hda4 is a ext2 filesystem)
It may run and report errors and ask if you want them fixed, I said yes
in my case, and it carried on. Finally I exited and the machine rebooted
and everything was OK. However, your mileage may vary. If there's anything
important on there, try to back it up first. You might try booting a
rescue disk and mounting the partition with a mount command and see if it
can find anything. If you're NOT concerned with any data on the partition,
just get on with it. Good luck
--
Praeterea censeo Micromolle non esse utendum.
("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used." A toned down
adaptation of a sig from Cato the Elder regarding the city of Carthage.
---- Remove "UhUh" and "Spam" to get my real email address -----
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Rebuilding SRPMs
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 31 May 1999 09:10:12 -0400
David Wragg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The PPro and successors have conditional move instructions. These can
> give quite significant performance improvements in typical code, by
> eliminating branch mispredictions. For a kernel built with egcs-1.1,
> there are measurable performance differences between one with
> -mpentiumpro and one with -march=pentiumpro (the latter enables egcs
> to use the cmov instructions). People get excited about the MMX and
> KNI instructions, but the use of the much more mundane cmov can give
> performance improvements for typical code, and it doesn't require
> compiler heroics.
agreed. mmx is a largely worthless marketing ploy.
> Unfortunately, there have been bugs in the cmov support of all release
> versions of egcs so far. So you get a faster kernel that doesn't work
> reliably.
i agree that cmov has potential. it's also rarely emitted by egcs. i
am not sure how much real improvement there is.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 16:37:58 -0700
Alex Lam wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm using SuSE 6.0, netscape 4.5 came with it. Everything runs
> fine until
> I was browsing a web site, and suddenly all data transfer stopped and
> netscape frozen
> up. All the keys and mouse are disabled. <ctrl><alt><del> had no
> effect either. I was forced to power off (without shutdown command) to
> reboot. Fortunity, linux lived through the process.
>
> What should I do if this happen again?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Alex Lam.
>
> --
> *remove the X if reply by e mail.
> ** no more M$ Windoze.
I believe java is causing the problem.
But still like to know how to get out properly.
Thanks.
Alex Lam.
--
*remove the X if reply by e mail.
** no more M$ Windoze.
------------------------------
From: Judah Diament <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IBM VisualAge for Java for Linux!!!
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:29:56 -0400
see
http://www.software.ibm.com/ad/vajava/linux.html
------------------------------
Subject: Re: Does WABI work in Red Hat Linux 6.0?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J. Otto Tennant)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 02:27:34 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Corsello) writes:
>Before I plunk down US$42 for a copy of WABI so I can run Quicken, does anyone
>know if it works on a Red Hat 6.0 system? Any glibc compatability issues or
>somesuch?
>(And yes, I know about Wine. Wine has one teensy drawback -- it don't work.)
Well, it "works" on my Linux system, up to the point where I got
frustrated with it. I'm pretty sure I installed it under some RedHat
system, but I don't remember the version number. I suspect that it will
"work" with most Linux distributions.
You need to look at the web site to see if it really runs Quicken, and
you may have to take that assurance with a grain of salt.
There is something, in my opinion, really weak about how WABI handles
the low 640K of memory.
Good luck.
--
J.Otto Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Forsan et haec olim meminisse juvabit.
Charter Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (<blank>)
Subject: Re: ESS1868 installation under 2.2.x
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 02:21:26 GMT
I have that soundcard but for some reason I compile kernel 2.3.2 but i
get this error and it keeps the old kernel:
clock shew detected, compile may be incomplete....
and when I reboot the same old kernel is there. Ive tried to compile
a few times and same thing. At the end it says leaving some dir(all i
remembe is that it starts with linux and has some #'s in it)
If someone could help me then I could get that file your looking
for....
On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:59:14 +0800, Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrotf:
>Are there any readers out there who have an ESS1868 _and_ are running
>kernel 2.2.something? I need a paste of your `make menuconfig` Sound menu
>options. The only ones I've found on help pages out there are for kernel
>versions 2.0.x :(.
>
>--: _ _ _ _
> _oo__ |_|_ |__ _ | _ |_|_o _ peter at ptcc dot it dot net dot au |
>//`'\_ | (/_|(/_| |_(_|| | || | http://it.net.au/~pc |
>/ PO Box 869, Hillarys WA 6923, AUSTRALIA |
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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 09:38:49 +0800
From: Raymond Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How do I configure sound in SUSE Linux 6.1?
Hello,
I am used to Red Hat Linux. But since the new Red Hat 6.0 is so
expensive, I tried SUSE when I do a kernel 2.2 upgrade. By the way, I
can't find the so-called Cheapbyte? version in my place.
The Yast of SUSE is fine and configured all my hardware and software
config., except the sound card. There seems to be no option for sound
card setting.
(I have upgraded the kernel to 2.2.9) I have compiled the kernel with
most of the sound card as modules. Is there a utility like sndconfig in
Red Hat?
Thanks in advance for your advise!
Yours,
Raymond Li
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From: "glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making an ICQ server
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 02:08:36 GMT
as icq uses udp on port 4000 squid is not blocking it linux is
tell linux you need icq 4000 udp in the serviceas file and all will be
fixed
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From: mrmanny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.51 Crashes When Java Starts
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 02:09:34 GMT
damons wrote:
> I am running Linux 6.0 and Netscape 4.51. Whenever I access a web page
> that starts up Java, Netscape instantly crashes. I have no idea what to
> do to fix it. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks....Bill Damon, Salem, VA
You aren't the only one..
I have the same problem w/RH 6.0. Tried installing Netscape 4.6 same thing.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
Date: 6 Jun 1999 01:57:31 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
"Jon Smirl" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> Don Baccus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Meanwhile, MySQL seems like a good choice if you don't
>> need the transaction model.
>> --
> You would have to be insane to implement any significant database app
> without transaction support. I spent weeks trying to recover data out of an
> older non-transaction based system when the system failed. Transactions are
> critical to ensuring the integrity of your data.
>
I found some good comments on this issue of 'Transactions' in the MySQL
arrives for those that are interested in more info on this...
http://db.geocrawler.com/search/?config=8&format=&words=transactions
- Justin
--
_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ RULES!!!!!!! * LINUX RULES *
_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Justin Willoughby
_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ http://www.nmc.edu/~willouj/
_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ ------ Jesus Is Lord ------
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Subject: Re: OpenLinux
Date: 6 Jun 1999 02:21:47 GMT
Patrick Dunford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I see OpenLinux got a good review in NZ PC World this month. What do people
: think of it?
Red Hat will kindly move over as Caldera has made OpenLinux the
easiest install of Linux, yet. For anyone that didn't know, OpenLinux's
install is graphical (ie. Windows 95/98, OS/2). The commercial version
even provides a customized version of Partition Magic 4 in order make/edit
partitions.
I never really imagined any install of Linux being easier than
Red Hat or SuSE, but Caldera proved me wrong. Their licensing deal with
PowerQuest also helps out the problem of no free disk space in order to
install it on with PM.
The only thing that I don't understand is why Caldera is not
supplying their fixes in an FTP site. Currently the only fixes offered
via FTP that I have found at Caldera are for 1.x. The newer 2.2 fixes
are located via HTTP. That and also that the customized verison of
Partition Magic that the commercial release has only has set disk sizes
of 300 MB, 1.0 GB, or whole disk when freeing up the disk space. For a
student who can gain academic pricing, it may be a better deal to simply
get the academic verison of Partition Magic 4 and then buy the OpenLinux
2.2 from Cheapbytes/LinuxCentral/LinuxMall/etc for $1.95 US.
------------------------------
From: "jb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sndconfig: dsp failed to rest
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:34:00 -0400
Help!!
I'd like to get sound in Linux.
I'm running Redhat 5.0 with soundblaster 16 pnp. When I run sound config, I
go through the set-up but when it checks for sound I get the error "dsp
failed to reset".
Where do I go from here 'cause I'm still pretty new to Linux...
JB
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From: Peter Eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 21:06:39 -0400
Alex Lam wrote:
>
This has happened to me recently on RH 5.2 w/Netscape 4.6. I had the
same symptoms as you, but of course it could be a different problem.
Anyway, if you're lucky enough to be on a network, you can telnet to
your linux box and kill X or whatever it is that's locked up the
keyboard/mouse.
Peter
> Alex Lam wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm using SuSE 6.0, netscape 4.5 came with it. Everything runs
> > fine until
> > I was browsing a web site, and suddenly all data transfer stopped and
> > netscape frozen
> > up. All the keys and mouse are disabled. <ctrl><alt><del> had no
> > effect either. I was forced to power off (without shutdown command) to
> > reboot. Fortunity, linux lived through the process.
> >
> > What should I do if this happen again?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Alex Lam.
> >
> > --
> > *remove the X if reply by e mail.
> > ** no more M$ Windoze.
>
> I believe java is causing the problem.
>
> But still like to know how to get out properly.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Alex Lam.
> --
> *remove the X if reply by e mail.
> ** no more M$ Windoze.
------------------------------
From: bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GCC Compatibility
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 21:00:47 -0600
Peter Eddy wrote:
>
> It could be a compatibility problem, have you tried compiling on the
> older machine?
>
> Andrea Peri wrote:
> >
> > But if I try to execute same executable on a Linux Machine with a
> > older Linux, it is refused to execute, saying
> > "file not found."
A long shot, but it might be looking for modules not present on the
older machine. Try compiling with the -static switch to pull in
everything you need. The binary will be much larger, though.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Basic setup? What do I need ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 01:19:50 GMT
On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:15:25 GMT, peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I need to put together my firewall/gateway/ip masq system, what are
>the mim. requirments that I will need.
>I have a 486 dx 66 and a few small harddrives (420, 250, etc).
You'll want at *least* 8 MB of RAM.
>Will I need to use X-windows?
No, you should be able to do all configuration in text mode via a telnet
session. That's the way I have my ip masq system set up.
>Also, I have Redhat 6 and Slackware 3.5
For Redhat see
http://www.redhat.com/corp/support/docs/index.html
for help on manual configuration of the network.
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick Dunford)
Crossposted-To: nz.comp
Subject: Re: OpenLinux
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:13:14 +1200
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>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick Dunford) wrote:
>
>>I see OpenLinux got a good review in NZ PC World this month. What do people
>>think of it?
>
>Firstly why not tell us what you think of it.
I haven't used it. hence the enquiry
- --
Patrick Dunford, Christchurch, NZ
http://www.trainweb.org/enzedrail/
http://patrick.dunford.com/
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From: "Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How do I configure sound in SUSE Linux 6.1?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:11:57 -0500
Raymond Li wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am used to Red Hat Linux. But since the new Red Hat 6.0 is so
> expensive, I tried SUSE when I do a kernel 2.2 upgrade. By the way, I
> can't find the so-called Cheapbyte? version in my place.
>
> The Yast of SUSE is fine and configured all my hardware and software
> config., except the sound card. There seems to be no option for sound
> card setting.
>
> (I have upgraded the kernel to 2.2.9) I have compiled the kernel with
> most of the sound card as modules. Is there a utility like sndconfig in
> Red Hat?
>
> Thanks in advance for your advise!
>
> Yours,
> Raymond Li
Some comments...
1) If you have a plug-and-play sound card you need to use the pnpdump
and isapnp programs to support kernel/module sound support.
2) You can avoid using pnpdump and isapnp by using the oss drivers
installable as a seperate package. (Not the same thing as the oss
modules that are part of kernel configuration and compiling.)
3) KDE disables sounds by default. Here is a quote from the SuSE support
database...
You can reactivate kaudioserver by editing the file
/opt/kde/bin/startkde and removing the leading '#' character from
the following lines:
# startifthere kaudioserver
# startifthere kwmsound
--
____________________________________________________________________
Robert Paulsen http://paulsen.home.texas.net
If my return address contains "ZAP." please remove it. Sorry for the
inconvenience but the unsolicited email is getting out of control.
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From: Pat Heuvel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What could it be? Help needed
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 13:28:22 +1000
Denis wrote:
>
> hi,
Gday...
>
.
.
>
> from that account to the one where my email is - it worked, too.
> (when trying to get new mail, I get "Server was not found",
> when "[denis@localhost denis]$ telnet godzilla.acpub.duke.edu", I get
> "godzilla.acpub.duke.edu: Host name lookup failure ")
>
> my linux experiences are driving me crazy, if somebody can please help me
> understand what is going on?
>
> thanks a lot.
> Denis
Check your /etc/resolv.conf file. It should look something like:
domain yourdomain.com
nameserver 123.45.67.1
nameserver 123.45.67.11
If it doesn't, go into the networking applet in your working W95 setup
and get the DNS information from there. Then enter the details in
/etc/resolv.conf. I assume your Netscape setups are identical as far as
server names are concerned.
HTH,
Pat
--
+---------------------------------------------------------+
+ "Logic clearly dictates, that the strokes of the many +
+ outweigh the strokes of the two..." +
+ (Apologies to Mr Spock) +
+---------------------------------------------------------+
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! How to get out when netscape 4.5 freezes?
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 20:14:49 -0700
Reply-To: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Alex Lam wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm using SuSE 6.0, netscape 4.5 came with it. Everything runs
> fine until
> I was browsing a web site, and suddenly all data transfer stopped and
> netscape frozen
> up. All the keys and mouse are disabled. <ctrl><alt><del> had no
I think that generally control/alt/delete does nothing in X.
> effect either. I was forced to power off (without shutdown command) to
> reboot. Fortunity, linux lived through the process.
>
> What should I do if this happen again?
What works for me (slackware 3.4, fvwm95) is (1) kill netscape either with the
little bomb button, or by choosing KILL from the menu of the little N logo in
the upper left of the title bar; (2) delete the 'lock' file from
~/.netscape/; (3) 'ps aux |grep netscape' and kill whatever PID shows up; (4)
sacrifice a small mammal; (5) restart netscape. Sometimes it takes a long
time to restart if the small mammal is not of the highest quality.
--
Cheers,
Bev
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Why put fault tolerance in the OS, when it's already built
into the User?" -- Steve Shaw, regarding Win95
------------------------------
From: "Prasanth Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OpenLinux
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:40:43 GMT
John Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7jclvr$k4k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Patrick Dunford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : I see OpenLinux got a good review in NZ PC World this month. What do
people
> : think of it?
>
> Red Hat will kindly move over as Caldera has made OpenLinux the
> easiest install of Linux, yet. For anyone that didn't know, OpenLinux's
> install is graphical (ie. Windows 95/98, OS/2). The commercial version
> even provides a customized version of Partition Magic 4 in order make/edit
> partitions.
> I never really imagined any install of Linux being easier than
> Red Hat or SuSE, but Caldera proved me wrong. Their licensing deal with
> PowerQuest also helps out the problem of no free disk space in order to
> install it on with PM.
> The only thing that I don't understand is why Caldera is not
> supplying their fixes in an FTP site. Currently the only fixes offered
> via FTP that I have found at Caldera are for 1.x. The newer 2.2 fixes
> are located via HTTP. That and also that the customized verison of
> Partition Magic that the commercial release has only has set disk sizes
> of 300 MB, 1.0 GB, or whole disk when freeing up the disk space. For a
> student who can gain academic pricing, it may be a better deal to simply
> get the academic verison of Partition Magic 4 and then buy the OpenLinux
> 2.2 from Cheapbytes/LinuxCentral/LinuxMall/etc for $1.95 US.
You need to look in the ftp.calderasystems.com ftp server to find the
updates.
My impression of OpenLinux 2.2 is that is pretty looking and easy to install
but when it fails to install, it doesn't work gracefully. Also in order to
make
things easier, they don't include lots of the server and development stuff
that
many other distributions do.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: crontab help (almost there!)
Date: 6 Jun 1999 04:10:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Les Cole scribbled manically:
: I am trying to run anlog every day to update my web page stats and later
: each day archive these stats in the web page directory. I have tried the
: following script and have success with the first part (noosastat.html is
: created and updated) but not the second - what am I doing wrong? By the
: way should %D%M%Y be preceded by + DATE ?
:
: * 1 * * * /usr/bin/analog
: * 3 * * * cp /home/noosastat.html /home/httpd/html/noosa/%D%M%Y.html
?! If I understand correctly, you want noosastat.html to be
copied into a file named, for example, 05061999.html. What you want is
something like this:
cp /path/to/noosastat.html /other/path/to/`date +%d%m%Y`.html
The "date +%d%m%Y" part gives you the date in ddmmyyyy format, and the
backticks are necessary to tell the shell "replace this stuff with its output";
that is, use the filename "05061999.html", not "date +%d%m%Y.html". You
also want to use %d and %m rather than %D and %M.
So, yes, you need to use "date +" (not "+ date"!). After all, the
shell doesn't know what the heck %D%M%Y means. Try these things on the
command line before putting them into cron!
JD
--
I was thrown out of fourth grade because I couldn't write my own name, and
it's been all downhill from there.
-- Linus Torvalds, in comp.os.mac.advocacy
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