Linux-Misc Digest #510, Volume #18                Fri, 8 Jan 99 02:13:12 EST

Contents:
  Re: How do you kill a bash shell script (Sydney Weidman)
  NEC silent writer 610 ("Roberto Forcén Nuñez")
  window colors in X. . . (Norvell Spearman)
  Re: LILO/NTLDR  and >8.4G hard disk =death (ian)
  Replacing MBR in Windows NT (Neil Martin)
  (no subject) (Kingsley Foreman)
  acrobat printing problem ("G. Pollack")
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Steve Mading)
  Re: need better info on settting up SAMBA (Jeffrey Greer)
  Re: need better info on settting up SAMBA (Dan Falk)
  Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (Tracy R Reed)
  Re: Help : red hat root password (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (David Fox)
  error with debian and ssi (Kingsley Foreman)
  glibc (Bamrung Somswasdi)
  Re: smail questions (Buck)
  Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. (John Varela)
  Re: ppp trouble (Bill Unruh)
  ghostscript with psfrag under linux (Mike Sullivan)
  Re: Shell scripts (Tomasz Lemiech)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Brad BARCLAY)
  Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (jedi)
  Re: RedHat Packgae Manager ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Personal SQL Database (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: Glibc2.0.7 where is it ? (Allin Cottrell)
  Re: Freebsd 2.2.2 , Linux  Compatible? (Brian Newman)
  Re: Editing issue.net? (Peter S. Frouman)

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From: Sydney Weidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How do you kill a bash shell script
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 05:08:45 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ok guys, I know this one is basic, but I don't know how to get a process
> number for a bash shell script. For simplicity, here is a simple bash shell
> script that I wrote:
>
> echo sleeping
> sleep 25
> echo end sleep
>
> When I run "ps" though, the computer gives me something like this:
>   PID TTY STAT  TIME COMMAND
>   472   1 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty1
>   473   2 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2
>   474   3 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3
>   475   4 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4
>   476   5 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5
>   477   6 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6
>   940  a0 S    0:00 su root
>   941  a0 S    0:00 bash
>  1659  a0 S    0:00 bash
>  1660  a0 S    0:00 sleep 25
>  1661  a0 R    0:00 ps
>
> How do I know which process number is associated with the script I just ran?
> The "bash" description listed is quite undescriptive. I know that the process
> number is given right after I type "test&", but sometimes I may want to close
> a process after that numebr disappars from my screen. So how can I find out
> the proces number of the script I just ran?
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

echo $!

will give you the pid of the last process started. I'm not sure what the value
of this would be if child processes were spawned in the script. Perhaps 'ps lf'
would be a better idea after all.

Confusedly yours,
Syd.


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From: "Roberto Forcén Nuñez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEC silent writer 610
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:16:47 +0100

Hi folks!

Anyone has installed a NEC silent writer 610 or other Windows GDI based
printer ?

regards

Roberto



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From: Norvell Spearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: window colors in X. . .
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 22:34:03 -0600

This may be a stupidly trivial question, but here goes. . .

I'm running Red Hat Linux 5.1 and using fvwm2 with AnotherLevel in
XWindows.  I finally figured out---more or less---how to change the
colors of window borders, title bars, et cetera by editing my Mwm file
under /etc/X11/AnotherLevel/decors.  But I still can't find where to
change, for example, the border color for *inactive* windows, the
default window background color (something besides light grey), the
default window menu font.

Like I said, this kind of question may come across as extremely
unimportant, but I'm mainly asking because it's like ``I can change half
the options for XWindows, but can't find where to change the other
half---shouldn't they be in at least the same directory?''

Thanks for any help with this.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To reply, remove my opinion about
unwanted e-mail from my address.

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From: ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LILO/NTLDR  and >8.4G hard disk =death
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:15:07 -0500

what a long thread, only the long-ass rendition 3300 threads were as
long, usualy due to long-=ass discussions and flames about other
chipsets and OpenGL/DirectX/Prorietary and messed up Glide wackos.

now as to this thread, here goes.
seems as if LILO put itself on its own HD, meaning that it didn't edit
the Primary hard Drives Master Boot Record. as evidenced by the fact
that it worked with the Linux drive as master on Primary IDE.

If I understand it when you reversed the drive locations you couldn't
get NT to boot, well maybe you didn't reconfig LILO to find NT as hdc.

For a solution.  Put Linux as hda and NT in hdc and Using LILO to boot.
another thing is to make sure LBA and 32 bit transfers enabled in BIOS.
The size of the Physical disk does not matter because of the way the
extended file system format works.
FYI- the 1024 limit does not affect Linux in Primary partition.  Only
effects LINUX in partition seperate from DOS.
but keeping the Kernel seperate has its advantages.
any questions use direct email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
address is anti-spammed at server level so not sure howit works with
replys

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From: Neil Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Replacing MBR in Windows NT
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:48:16 +0000

How do I replace a master boot record that currently has LILO installed
in it from Windows NT?  NT having no 'fdisk'...

If I boot DOS and do FDISK/MBR will I find the NT partitions ever again?

Regards,
Neil Martin
Prosig Limited

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From: Kingsley Foreman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 15:50:18 +1030

im trying to use ssi in debian and i keep getting the message
my htaccess file is this
Options ExecCGI Includes MultiViews
AddType application/x-httpd-cgi cgi
AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
AddType text/html .shtml


[warn] handler "server-parsed" not found

--
**************************************************

Australian Music Links

http://www.ausmusiclinks.com.au/

**************************************************
Kinglsey Foreman



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From: "G. Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: acrobat printing problem
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:47:28 -0500

I'm using acrobat reader 3.0 on a RedHat 5.1 system. I am unable to
print some images contained in pdf documents (these are half-tones in
journal articles). My printer is an HP Deskjet 600C. When I attempt to
print the page containing the image, the error light on my printer
flashes. When I press the printer button to clear this, a page is
ejected with the following written across the top:

Error: /ioerrorin--%image_process_continue--
                                          Additional information: (JPEG
data


It appears as though the message has more information, but this isn't
printed.  

My ghostscript version is 3.33

Thanks in advance for any advice,

-- 
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mading)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 7 Jan 1999 23:50:23 -0600

Jeff Read ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Netnerd wrote:
: > 
: > The latest consumer poll shows that 81 percent of consumers think Microsoft
: > has been good for consumers, and 52 percent think the case was brought to
: > help Microsoft's rivals.

: Polls also show that Bill Clinton is a good president. Is public opinion
: more valid than the facts? I think not.

A more accurate complaint would be to say that these polls don't
actually reflect public opinion at all.  I do *NOT* find a high
approval percentage of Clinton amongst the people I talk to on a
daily basis, and neither do most people talking on-line either.
This is a mix from across the whole political spectrum from left-wing,
to right-wing, and even some various "third wing" parties like
libertarians.  I have no idea how these "polls" are being conducted,
but they don't reflect reality.

-- 
Steve Mading:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.execpc.com/~madings


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey Greer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: need better info on settting up SAMBA
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 16:34:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One more small question.  I don't know if this is a bug in samba or not.  Samba
reports an incorrect amount of disk free space to a mapped drive letter in winnt
4.0.  I have an 8.8gig drive mapped to D: (dev/sda1)  but it only says I have
3.99gigs free.  I've added about 1.5gigs to drive D: and it still says 3.99gigs
free.  When I run df on the samba host it reports the correct amount of free
space.

I mapped another drive letter to the root dir of my linux box with the samba
host, which is on a different hd (dev/sdc1).  Samba reports the disk free space
correctly for this drive - 470MB.

Maybe I didn't format the scsi 8.8GB drive correctly.  I made a primary ext2
partion with fdisk and then called "mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/sda1"  This is the
standard way to format a linux drive isn't it?
--
Jeff Greer, graduating senior, computer science
www.umr.edu/~jgreer
University of MO - Rolla
========================
FAA license A-27264 (license to jump out an airplane at >= 1000ft AGL)

// "If travelling by plane is 'flying' then travelling by boat is swimming. \\
\\  If you want to experience the environment, get out of the vehicle."     //

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:46:24 -0500
From: Dan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: need better info on settting up SAMBA

If your looking for a book, try "LINUX Network Toolkit" by Paul G. Sery.  It does a
good job of setting up a Linux server from installation to tweaking for
performance.  It's centered around SAMBA.

Gook Luck,
Dan Falk

Jeffrey Greer wrote:

> Hello Linux users,
>
> I'm a networking dummy.  I've looked at SAMBA.org's doc's and others, but I
> don't know where to start.  I've studied the theory of networking in my
> networking class, but I didn't learn anything practical towards setting up
> networks.  I know very little about setting up networks, but I can figure it out
> if I know where to find the right documentation and given a roadmap.  Could
> someone give a list of a dozen or so steps I should take in order to set Linux
> up to run samba?
>
> Eg.
> 1. configure network card  (check these docs - .... )
> 2. ping from server to client, then client to server (check these docs - ... )
> 3. configure samba
> ...
>
> My main goal is to share drives from Linux with nt.
>
> I'm running winnt 4.0 w/ sp3 and RH Linux 5.2 over a 100MB fast ethernet.  It
> works fine when both systems are running NT.  I've compiled Linux kernel 2.1.131
> with support for my network card - 3com 3c595.
>
> Hardware has never been my strong point.  Hardware should just work  ;^)  I've
> put together over a dozen pc's, but I still hate doing it.  :^(    I like
> programming much more (programming not involving heavy manipulation of
> hardware).  Messing around with threads, sockets, semaphores, trees, etc. is
> fun, but not hardware (for me).
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Jeff Greer, graduating senior, computer science
> www.umr.edu/~jgreer
> University of MO - Rolla
> ------------------------
> FAA license A-27264 (license to jump out an airplane at >= 1000ft AGL)
>
> // "If travelling by plane is 'flying' then travelling by boat is swimming. \\
> \\  If you want to experience the environment, get out of the vehicle."     //


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tracy R Reed)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 05:59:45 GMT

Verbal Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linux, is on par with Windows NT, but if you give Linux to My mom she
>wouldn't know what the hell to do, cause half of the time I don't know

That's funny. I'm putting the finishing touches on a computer that runs only
Linux which gets shipped to my mom tomorrow. I'm not joking either. With KDE,
Netscape, StarOffice, a few games, and a few additional productivity apps,
she's got everything the family needs. Click an icon and the net connection
comes up, click another and the email client comes up, click another and the
mail is retrieved. Piece of cake. Is my mom just that much smarter than yours
or is Linux really not as bad as you make it out to be?

--
Tracy Reed      http://www.ultraviolet.org
"There are no significant bugs in our released software that any
significant number of users want fixed." - Bill Gates in an interview with
Focus magazine, Oct 23, 1995.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Help : red hat root password
Date: 8 Jan 1999 06:02:05 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Allen Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>    How are you able to edit the passwd file if you can't log in as
>"root"?

You can;t. However you may be able to mount linux single user
linux 1
at the lilo: prompt.
That should dump you  into single user mode with no password. Otherwise
boot up with your rescue disks, and mount the root partition somewhere
(mount -t ext2 /dev/ha1 /root say)
then change to /root/ext/
and 
vi passwd



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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 07 Jan 1999 22:01:01 -0800

"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The latest consumer poll shows that 81 percent of consumers think Microsoft
> has been good for consumers, and 52 percent think the case was brought to
> help Microsoft's rivals.

"The latest consumer poll"?
-- 
David Fox           http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf             xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab                                         baL ICH DSCU

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From: Kingsley Foreman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: error with debian and ssi
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:38:47 +1030


im trying to use ssi in debian and i keep getting the message
my htaccess file is this
Options ExecCGI Includes MultiViews
AddType application/x-httpd-cgi cgi
AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
AddType text/html .shtml


[warn] handler "server-parsed" not found

--
**************************************************

Australian Music Links

http://www.ausmusiclinks.com.au/

**************************************************
Kinglsey Foreman





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From: Bamrung Somswasdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: glibc
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 09:04:47 +0700

Hi there!

    I want to try StarOffice 5.0, but
I'm afraid of installing glibc2, am I
reasonable?

                        :)





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Buck)
Subject: Re: smail questions
Date: 8 Jan 1999 05:36:36 GMT

On 6 Jan 1999 10:53:51 GMT, Panajotis Karajannis wrote:
: Hi !
: When smail tries to send a message to a smart-host it gives:
: mail from: panos@my-host
: however the message is rejected  because the line must be:
: mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: How can be done this ?

First off, try leaving the smarthost line blank. Smail can contact the
remote host itself. However, if you want to set it up for use with a
smarthost, the easiest way is to run /usr/sbin/smailconfig

: Also I want the smail MTA to use syslog for logging.
: Is there any other MTA, better suited for dial-up connections ? I tried ssmtp
: but it cannot handle local mail (i.e. from CRON ).

Smail works fine with a dialup. When mail is sent offline, it spools it for
later transmission. Send with the 'runq' command after going online. Check the
mail queue with 'mailq'. The configuration is explained in man smailconf.

-- 
NO EMAIL REPLIES, please.
The posted address is bogus.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Varela)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: 7 Jan 1999 22:06:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:28:36, Randal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> but for the number of crashes and the lost work. Yes, it's often from doing
> something foolish (today the secretary deleted a file she had open in a word
> processor from outside the word processor---good night). but it still causes
> enormous frustration.

Are you saying that Windows lets you delete an open file?  Or are you saying 
that an attempt to do so crashes the system?

Either way, YE GODS!

--  
    John Varela
    (delete . between mind and spring to e-mail me)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: ppp trouble
Date: 8 Jan 1999 06:15:46 GMT

In <773usf$o3o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ed Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Hello, i am a fervent linux user, and i badly need help!
>> 
>> I want to connect to the internet with linux with pppd-2.3, but it doesn't
>> work; the ppp connection seems to be ok since i get my dynamic IP:
>> Jan  8 02:44:52 logik pppd[520]: local  IP address 212.11.30.135
>> Jan  8 02:44:52 logik pppd[520]: remote IP address 195.114.65.18

Is this dynamic or static addresses?
What do the log files at your ISP say?

>> however, i am not able to ping anyone (including the other side,
>> 195.114.65.18)

I assume this means that you are unable to ping the number (not the
name). When you ping that number what do the lights on your ethernet
card do?

Did you originally have a default route set up on your ethernet
interface? Don't . Remove it(eg in your rc.local ) and simply route
directly to the local subnet. 
>> any name resolving times out in the way that i don't receive any data from
>> the
>> modem:

Never mind name resolving. Do not use names when debugging a connection.
Always use numbers. When those all work (ie when you can ping 137.82.1.1
and get a response) then try names. Otherwise you are trying to solve
too many things at once.

>> Jan  8 02:45:23 logik pppd[520]: CCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
??

This looks like a ppp problem trying to hook up to the other side.
However I do not understand why you should then have a route to the far
side.

>> 
>> 'route' does the same, and 'route -n' says (which i think is normal):

Put the likely machines inot your /etc/hosts file, and have the resolver
look at /etc/hosts first. 

>> 
>> Kernel IP routing table
>> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
>> Iface
>> 195.114.65.18   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0
>> ppp0
>> 198.68.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0
>> eth0

Try taking down your ethernet befor connecting to ppp

>> 127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
>> 0.0.0.0         195.114.65.18   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        2
>> ppp0
>> 
>> it seems to me that everything works, but the dns servers don't respond to
>> me
>> My ISP tells me nothing changed on his side.

So I still do not know what your problem is. If you do ping 137.82.1.1
do you get an answer. If so, your ppp is fine. If not your ppp has
problems.

IF it is fine look in /etc/resolv.conf to see if anything has changed
there. get rid of the search line, and just put in say
nameserver 137.82.43.9
to see if that works. If it does, put in your ISP's nameserver and try
again. (Do not leave it on the above or my ISP will get annoyed with
me.)


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From: Mike Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.postscript,comp.text.tex
Subject: ghostscript with psfrag under linux
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 10:55:39 -0600



> SO: RH Linux 5.0

> gs: 5.10

> The lines in my AMS-LaTeX that seems to cause the problem is:
>
> % @@@@@@@@@@@@@ FIGURE @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> \begin{figure}[htb]
>  \psfrag{a)}{a)}                          <--- if I comment this out, no
> errors
>  %\psfrag{b)}{b.}
>  %\psfrag{B1x{-1}}{$B_1 \times \{-1\}$}
>  \begin{center}  \mbox{
>   \epsfxsize=3in
> %  \epsfysize=3in
>   \epsfbox{1110.eps}
>   }
>  \end{center}
>  \caption{Another two-box flow, (a) the first return map,
>  (b) side view of boxes.}
>  \label{fig5}
> \end{figure}
> % @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>
> latex and dvips report no errors. running gv gives:
>
> Error: /syntaxerrorAladdin Ghostscript: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1
>
>  in -file-
> Operand stack:
>    --dict:47/200--   true
> Execution stack:
>    %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
> --nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--
> --nostringval--   --nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   1   3
> %oparray_pop   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
> --nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--
> --nostringval--   5   4   %oparray_pop
> Dictionary stack:
>    --dict:770/809--   --dict:0/20--   --dict:47/200--   --dict:118/250--
>
> I coped the files onto a labtop using linux 5.1 and gs 3.33 and got the
> same results.
>
> Mike Sullivan

> msulliva @ math.siu.edu




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From: Tomasz Lemiech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shell scripts
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:46:54 +0100

On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, Rick Glunt wrote:

> The man pages fro sendmail and fetchmail both indicate they return codes
> that will tell a script wheter they have completed properly or not.  How do
> I access these codes from a shell script?  I want fetchmail to run, then
> have sendmail start after fetchmail completes.  Any sample code?

fetchmail <parameters> && sendmail <parameters>

This will cause, that sendmail will be run only if fetchmail don't return
any errors. This is the simpliest way. If you want to examine the error
number of last run process, check the variable $? . It contains the error
code of last run process.
Regards,

                                       *Szpajder* aka Tomasz Lemiech
                                     <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad BARCLAY)
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad BARCLAY)
Date: 8 Jan 1999 01:32:33 +0500

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u 
(David Fox) writes:
>"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> The latest consumer poll shows that 81 percent of consumers think Microsoft
>> has been good for consumers, and 52 percent think the case was brought to
>> help Microsoft's rivals.
>
>"The latest consumer poll"?

     What, didn't you hear?  Microsoft went through their customer file and 
called a random sample of 11 Microsoft customers, who included Michael Dell 
and Bill Gate's mother.

     This explains why neither you nor I were called.  I hear that it was Bill
Gate's mother who caused the first figure to be so much lower than Microsoft 
expected.

Brad BARCLAY

PS:   You can manipulate statistics to show anything you want.  29% of people 
know that :).

===============
>From the OS/2 WARP v4 Desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  WWW: http://yaztromo.idirect.com
Public PGP Key available upon request.  [ ] VoiceType Dictated.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:16:08 -0800

On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 04:52:52 GMT, Loren Petrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <76u4l4$hso$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mosl Roland"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The trick is, that Windows marketing makes the people believe,
>> that they can do everything very simple by clicking around.
>
>   This is the old Macintosh stereotype!!!

        The mac never had ISA to deal with.

-- 
                Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
  
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or         |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out   / | \
as soon as your grip slips.

        In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RedHat Packgae Manager
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:13:52 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Please let me know what do I have
> to do to install a RPM(Sybase ASE or KDE) on Slackware. Thanx in advance.

Get it as a .tgz from ftp.rpm.org

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Personal SQL Database
Date: 7 Jan 1999 22:36:53 -0600

In article <772shq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Guy Delamarter  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Database help requested:
>
>Most of the databases I have looked at with SQL and Java connectivity
>appear to be built for being large scale database servers, usually for
>web applications and are usually meant to be dedicated to a single
>database or small set of databases in a single protected system
>directory.
>
>I would like to write some small applications for storing data in
>database files in each user's directory for their own personal use.
>I'd like to apply the power of SQL type queries, and use canned user
>interfaces.  Such an SQL engine may be used for several different
>applications, so it will have to be pointed to application specific
>database files on a user by user basis, but the SQL server program
>could be the same.
>
>Really what I want is a program like GDBM, but which has SQL
>capability and can easily be used with Java.
>
>Is there a free solution out there for this? 

Look at http://www.postgresql.org.  

  Les Mikesell
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Glibc2.0.7 where is it ?
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:05:06 -0500

Matt wrote:
> 
> Help,
> 
> I need to upgrade to glibc2.0.7 I have upgraded to 2.0.6 but
> now I need glib2.0.7 does anyone know where I can get a download
> of the locale, crypt and other files I need (like the 2.0.6 ones ?

ftp://alpha.gnu.org/pub/gnu

Latest 2.0.7 is pre6.  Get the locale, linuxthreads, and crypt
add-on files that have version numbers as close to 2.0.7pre6 as
possible, counting from below.  (Some of the files have not
changed and are not numbered 2.0.7pre6).

-- 
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC

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From: Brian Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Freebsd 2.2.2 , Linux  Compatible?
Date: 7 Jan 1999 08:45:02 -0800

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>[...]
>Is it feasible to use Linux Locally and then transfer the work to to the ISP
>which runs BSD. 
>
>The "work" would be perl, html, mysql DB files etc... No executable programs of
>course.

Perl and html files certainly would be, since they are basically text files and
not system dependent.  I edit html files in Win95 all the time and transfer them
to and from my ISP's BSD system and my home Linux system.

====================
Shade and sweet water,
Brian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.aracnet.com/~bnewman
"Like Kurosawa I make mad films / 'Kay, I don't make films /
 But if I did, they'd have a samurai" -- Barenaked Ladies

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Subject: Re: Editing issue.net?
Date: 8 Jan 1999 05:48:37 GMT

On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 18:45:47 -0500, (BXTC) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hey, I would like to make it so when someone telnets to my comp.  it
>says something besides 
>Red Hat 5.1 ......".  I tried editing my /etc/issue.net file and it
>worked.  But when I reboot, i lose the changes I made.  I'm guessing its
>simple, I've seen several site done this way. 

It is usually created or changed by an init script. 
Check /etc/rc.d/rc.local

>Also after someone has logged in how can I have the screen show text? 
>Almost every shell I've ever had has had this.  Right now I just made a
>txt file and call it from .bashrc but they can edit it out.  I am
>running redhat 5.1 3.0.34.  Thanks in advance

Perhaps you are thinking of /etc/motd The contents of this file (message
of the day) are usually displayed after login. You can put whatever you
want it and it should automatically show up.

-- 
-Peter Frouman | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zippy says:
... I think I'd better go back to my DESK and toy with a few common
MISAPPREHENSIONS ...

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