Linux-Misc Digest #510, Volume #27 Sun, 1 Apr 01 20:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When?? (Robert Love)
Re: Debian Boot question (Michael Perry)
Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When?? (Michael Perry)
Re: missing initab file.......enter runlevel? (Dranthony)
Re: Where is a timeserver I can use for RDate? (Michael Perry)
Re: missing initab file.......enter runlevel? (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: missing initab file.......enter runlevel? (Dranthony)
Re: missing initab file.......enter runlevel? (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When?? ("Christopher W. Aiken")
Applixware 4.4.1 for Windows? (John Hong)
Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When?? (John Hong)
Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When?? (Michael Perry)
[HELP] How to have Samba report available space? ("Lam Dang")
Re: LILO installation (John in SD)
Re: Lilo (John in SD)
Re: serious boot problem (John in SD)
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From: Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When??
Date: 01 Apr 2001 16:56:27 -0500
I've looked at stores nearby the last two weekends. All the big
three, Red Hat, Mandrake and SUSE all are selling products based on
2.2 kernals. When will there be a commercial product based on 2.4?
Anybody know?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Debian Boot question
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:00:00 -0000
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:48:36 -0500, Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ok, here's my problem:
>
>I have the debian image already burned to a cd... but, my BIOS is not setup
>to allow booting from CD-ROM (it's a phoenix BIOS but I can't seem to get
>into the setup..). So, I was planning on just using a rescue floppy to do
>the initial boot, and I thought it would then let me specify the cd media to
>complete the installation... but it doesn't seem to be doing this. I get
>the the boot: prompt and press [enter], but after a few pages of hardware
>stuff and a few more pressings of enter, I get a kernel panic (eep).
>
>So, I guess what I'm trying to ask is: do I need other floppies besides
>just the one with rescue.bin to get to the `dbootstrap' setup?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>-- Matt Norton
>
>
I think you will need the rescue and the root cd. You can get them at
www.debian.org. You can do an entire installation if you like with
floppies. Just download the 4 driver diskettes and make them with rawrite
or dd them if you have a linux system already working. Just an alternative
just in case...
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Michael Perry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When??
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:00:29 -0000
On 01 Apr 2001 16:56:27 -0500, Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've looked at stores nearby the last two weekends. All the big
>three, Red Hat, Mandrake and SUSE all are selling products based on
>2.2 kernals. When will there be a commercial product based on 2.4?
>Anybody know?
>
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I thought SuSE 7.1 had the 2.4 kernel as an option for installation.
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Michael Perry
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From: Dranthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: missing initab file.......enter runlevel?
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:04:57 GMT
> > VFS- mounted root(ext2fs) read only
> > init- version 2.78 booting
> > No initab file
> >
> > Enter runlevel:
> Have you tried entering at the lilo prompt:
>
> linux root=/dev/hdaX # where X is the root partition.
>If this gives the same error:
>try "linux init=/bin/bash"
>And see if/why inittab is missing.
>Eric
I got the same result with linux root=/dev/hdaX # where X is the root
partition. I then tried the next suggestion and that got me to a
prompt: INIT-2.04#
I then tried looking for the file initab but the directory /etc is
messed. it will allow me to cd /etc but then when I ls it I get an
error message as follows:
INIT-2.04# ls {-al :gives same error}
EXT2-fs error (device ide1(22,1)) : ext2_readdir:bad
entry in directory #192001 :rec_len is
smaller than minimal - offset =0, inode=9994240, rec_len=0, name_len=0
any suggestions anybody?
dranthony
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Where is a timeserver I can use for RDate?
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:07:37 -0000
On Sun, 01 Apr 2001 20:52:03 GMT, Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>* Brian E. Parker wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm on a cable modem and would like to have my Mandrake 7.2 box to run a
>> cron job to utilize 'rdate' to keep the time correct. What timeserver on
>> the 'net would you guys recommend for this use?
>
>Use a search-engine to look for "public ntp secondary time server" - you
>should find http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock2.htm
>
>You should use a secondary rather than a primary time server.
>
>-Jan
>
>--
>Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
>
>"Life," said Marvin, "don't talk to me about life."
>
I have been using clock.via.net here for about a year. I live in San
Francisco and they are relatively close. I run ntp on a server and hit the
server on my home network from all my linux boxes. There are 98/nt time
programs as well. I tend to use ntpdate because debian installs it as part
of a startup process. I just point the script in /etc/init.d/ntpdate to my
local timeserver and run ntp on it which polls clock.via.net.
Some stratum 1 servers allow open access. One has to peruse the web pages
for both stratum 1 and 2 servers.
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Michael Perry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: missing initab file.......enter runlevel?
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:24:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dranthony wrote:
>
>> > VFS- mounted root(ext2fs) read only
>> > init- version 2.78 booting
>> > No initab file
>> >
>> > Enter runlevel:
>
>> Have you tried entering at the lilo prompt:
>>
>> linux root=/dev/hdaX # where X is the root partition.
>
>>If this gives the same error:
>
>>try "linux init=/bin/bash"
>
>>And see if/why inittab is missing.
>
>>Eric
>
>
>I got the same result with linux root=/dev/hdaX # where X is the root
>partition. I then tried the next suggestion and that got me to a
>prompt: INIT-2.04#
>
>I then tried looking for the file initab but the directory /etc is
>messed. it will allow me to cd /etc but then when I ls it I get an
>error message as follows:
>
>INIT-2.04# ls {-al :gives same error}
> EXT2-fs error (device ide1(22,1)) : ext2_readdir:bad
>entry in directory #192001 :rec_len is
>smaller than minimal - offset =0, inode=9994240, rec_len=0, name_len=0
>
>any suggestions anybody?
[-]
Your FS seems to have been slightly re-organised -- run e2fsck or
e2fsck -n to see what it is going to do.
If you've any important files on your / partition you can't restore
from some backup, then saving them *now* may be a good idea.
Oh and you've had any hardware problems lately ? Any new hardware
or anything like this ?
Ta',
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When??
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:25:13 GMT
Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've looked at stores nearby the last two weekends. All the big
> three, Red Hat, Mandrake and SUSE all are selling products based on
> 2.2 kernals. When will there be a commercial product based on 2.4?
> Anybody know?
Obviously it had to wait until there was a release of 2.4.
Once that release takes place, they probably don't want the _first_
release, but rather to let problems get resolved, thus waiting for
about 2.4.3 or 2.4.4.
Once _that_ takes place, they need to do systems integration work to
make validate that it is _widely_ compatible with the other components
they're releasing. And setting up boot disks. And having suitable
packaging of kernel modules.
After _that_, they have to have a planned distribution release. For
RHAT, that might be of 7.1.
Finally, there's the step of updating documentation, drawing up a
marketing plan for the new distribution version, burning "golden" CDs,
setting up the print run for stamping CDs, boxes, manuals, and
deployment of advertising.
All in all, a "crash course" for all of this probably adds up to 4-6
months. Of which a goodly chunk has already passed; they distribution
makers likely all are well into the systems integration and "marketing
planning" efforts...
You can probably expect the _next_ release of Red Hat, SuSE, and such
to include a 2.4.x kernel.
--
(concatenate 'string "aa454" "@freenet.carleton.ca")
http://vip.hyperusa.com/~cbbrowne/resume.html
Rules of the Evil Overlord #109. "I will see to it that plucky young
lads/lasses in strange clothes and with the accent of an outlander
shall REGULARLY climb some monument in the main square of my capital
and denounce me, claim to know the secret of my power, rally the
masses to rebellion, etc. That way, the citizens will be jaded in case
the real thing ever comes along." <http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
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From: Dranthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: missing initab file.......enter runlevel?
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:34:10 GMT
I tried using the prog explore2fs for windoze and that's when the prob
started. i am dual booting and wanted to see some files from linux under
windoze and ba bam. That's when it started.
I'll give the e2fsck a look to see what happened.
Juergen Heinzl wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dranthony wrote:
> >
> >> > VFS- mounted root(ext2fs) read only
> >> > init- version 2.78 booting
> >> > No initab file
> >> >
> >> > Enter runlevel:
> >
> >> Have you tried entering at the lilo prompt:
> >>
> >> linux root=/dev/hdaX # where X is the root partition.
> >
> >>If this gives the same error:
> >
> >>try "linux init=/bin/bash"
> >
> >>And see if/why inittab is missing.
> >
> >>Eric
> >
> >
> >I got the same result with linux root=/dev/hdaX # where X is the root
> >partition. I then tried the next suggestion and that got me to a
> >prompt: INIT-2.04#
> >
> >I then tried looking for the file initab but the directory /etc is
> >messed. it will allow me to cd /etc but then when I ls it I get an
> >error message as follows:
> >
> >INIT-2.04# ls {-al :gives same error}
> > EXT2-fs error (device ide1(22,1)) : ext2_readdir:bad
> >entry in directory #192001 :rec_len is
> >smaller than minimal - offset =0, inode=9994240, rec_len=0, name_len=0
> >
> >any suggestions anybody?
> [-]
> Your FS seems to have been slightly re-organised -- run e2fsck or
> e2fsck -n to see what it is going to do.
>
> If you've any important files on your / partition you can't restore
> from some backup, then saving them *now* may be a good idea.
>
> Oh and you've had any hardware problems lately ? Any new hardware
> or anything like this ?
>
> Ta',
> Juergen
>
> --
> \ Real name : Juergen Heinzl \ no flames /
> \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: missing initab file.......enter runlevel?
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:46:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dranthony wrote:
>I tried using the prog explore2fs for windoze and that's when the prob
>started. i am dual booting and wanted to see some files from linux under
>windoze and ba bam. That's when it started.
[-]
Bill Gates' revenge 8-}
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From: "Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When??
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:54:40 -0400
SuSE 7.1 comes with 2.2.18 and 2.4.0. I've been uinig 2.4.0
w/o any problems for several weeks now. If you use yast2 to
install you can actually install both kernels and the lilo.conf
file is set up with both kernels.
--
Christopher W. Aiken
Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com
www.cwaiken.com
SuSE 7.1 Professional Linux
On 1 Apr 2001, Robert Love wrote:
->I've looked at stores nearby the last two weekends. All the big
->three, Red Hat, Mandrake and SUSE all are selling products based on
->2.2 kernals. When will there be a commercial product based on 2.4?
->Anybody know?
->
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Subject: Applixware 4.4.1 for Windows?
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:16:21 +0000 (UTC)
Applix made one for the Win95 platform, but where can you get it?
No one seems to have it listed for sale anywhere, either online retail or
even second hand copies.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Subject: Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When??
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:17:21 +0000 (UTC)
Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I've looked at stores nearby the last two weekends. All the big
>three, Red Hat, Mandrake and SUSE all are selling products based on
>2.2 kernals. When will there be a commercial product based on 2.4?
>Anybody know?
Wait for either Mandrake 8.0 or Red Hat 7.1. SuSE has 7.1 right
now with a 2.4 Kernel option, but keep in mind that this is only 2.4.0
(pre10).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Commercial Distro with 2.4?? When??
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:10:10 -0000
On Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:25:13 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I've looked at stores nearby the last two weekends. All the big
>> three, Red Hat, Mandrake and SUSE all are selling products based on
>> 2.2 kernals. When will there be a commercial product based on 2.4?
>> Anybody know?
>
<snip>
>You can probably expect the _next_ release of Red Hat, SuSE, and such
>to include a 2.4.x kernel.
>--
You can expect this release of SuSE to have the 2.4.x kernel with patches :)
Check out www.suse.com if you want a distribution with the 2.4 kernel now.
You can make debian 2.4 ready with some work. I kinda think that mandrake
will beat redhat with a upgrade to have the 2.4 kernel included; but maybe
not. I don't follow mandrake too closely though.
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Michael Perry
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From: "Lam Dang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [HELP] How to have Samba report available space?
Date: 01 Apr 2001 18:38:52 -0400
I have samba-2.0.5a-12 installed on RedHat
6.1 to provide shares to Windows 9.X, NT, and
2000.
I'm trying to install a large application on
a Windows 2000 box using one of the Samba
shares. This share is defined in my Linux
server's /etc/smb.conf as follows:
[BRITANNICA]
path = /pub/BRITANNICA
public = yes
only guest = yes
writable = yes
printable = no
create mask = 0644
The installer reports there's not enough
space and refuses to proceed with the
destination \\DELTA\BRITANNICA\2001, though
there is 11G free in the partition. Either
this installer is playing dumb or Samba fails
to report the correct size for one reason or
another.
Please let me know what I'm missing.
--
Lam Dang
dangit AT ix DOT netcom DOT com
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: LILO installation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:47:05 GMT
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:22:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raj Rijhwani) wrote:
>Query: Is there a simple way to tell LILO to install on a disk
>as if it were installing on another? e.g. can I install it on
>/dev/hdb MBR but tell it to treat it as /dev/hda for boot purposes
>(for the purpose of migrating to a different disk by simply copying
>mainly).
>
>I could boot from floppy, but that requires installing a floppy in
>the machine in question. If I could just install LILO directly
>on the new disk, there'd be no need.
Very easy. You have to lie about the BIOS device code parameter.
Don't put this "lilo.conf" file in /etc. It will confuse the issue. Call the
file: lilo80.conf, and do the install with:
/sbin/lilo -C lilo80.conf -v
lilo80.conf will look like
==================================================
boot=/dev/hdb <-- write MBR on slave disk
install=/dir/boot.b <-- /dir better be on /dev/hdb
disk=/dev/hdb
bios=0x80 <-- a lie, but this is where
<-- it WILL be
prompt
timeout=....
image=/dir/vmlinuz <-- /dir better be on hdb
root=/dev/hda2 <-- currently it is /dev/hdb2
<-- another lie, but this is
<-- where it will be
read-only
initrd=/dir/initrd <-- same caution
==================================================
LILO version 21.7 (24-Feb-2001) source at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
patches to -2 at ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:52:57 GMT
On Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:34:41 +1000, Frank Ranner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Try adding these lines
>
> map-drive = 0x80
> to = 0x81
> map-drive = 0x81
> to = 0x80
>
This map drive feature of LILO will get DOS to work.
DOS must reside on a PRIMARY partition on /dev/hda.
This same trick will work for Windows 95 & 98, since they are DOS based. But
only if you do the installation with the drive mapping in effect.
I have a system with Windows 2000. Needed an app that only runs under Win 98.
But no space on hda. I had room in a FAT16 partition on hdb. Installed from
DOS with drive mapping in effect. Now I can get to that app when I want it.
LILO version 21.7 (24-Feb-2001) source at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
patches to -2 at ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: serious boot problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 23:55:47 GMT
You CAN boot linux on your system if both of the following conditions are met:
1. You have a recent BIOS which supports the large disk EDD packet calls on
int 0x13.
2. You have a recent version of lilo (21.2 or newer). Use the "lba32"
option. This allows addressing disks up to 2Tb.
On Sun, 01 Apr 2001 11:39:49 GMT, sven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hello
>I have a problem with the bootprocess in my pc.
>Whenever i try to boot from the hdd, i get an errormess. that there is no o.s.
>installed.
>I saw it first when trying to boot win NT4.0 , i tried with an rescue floppy,
>no succes, then i installed win2k on the first partition ( c:) an win2k gave
>no errormess. when formatting the c: drive. Untill i had to boot from the hdd
>to complete the install process of win2k, same error that there was no o.s.
>installed. Looks to me that there must be something wrong with the MBR, I
>tried to setup the cmos with fail-safe defaults, no succes. I can only boot
>from an fdd into linux, or from a cd-rom ( linux, NT, 2k ..) .. just the hdd
>won't work.
>My linix partitions are far beyond the 1024's cil. ( they are above
>the 20'th gb..)so i can't even install lilo in the mbr..( suse 6.3.. kernel
>2.2.13 ) Can anybody help me out ? i need NT or 2k badly because some people
>here are affraid of anything wich doesn't look like a window, from ms.. and i
>don't want to boot from a floppy the rest of my life :-)
>
>greetings
>sven
>
>( remove "REMOVETHIS." from adress please..)
LILO version 21.7 (24-Feb-2001) source at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo
patches to -2 at ftp://brun.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo
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