Linux-Misc Digest #527, Volume #20                Mon, 7 Jun 99 02:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Marco Antoniotti)
  Re: connect to linux as root using SMB (Charles Wilkins)
  How do I log onto ver. 6.0? ("Lamar Thomas")
  Re: Newbie having problems mounting floppy (Rodney Loisel)
  Re: Mounting joliet CDROM media (FUJITA Yasushi)
  RealPlayer G2... (Chuck Cusack)
  Re: Mounting an HPFS partition (Dr Vincent C Jones PE)
  Re: Unstable Netscape (Carl Fink)
  Re: Making an ICQ server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How do I log onto ver. 6.0? (Benoit Lefebvre)
  Help, removing RH Linux 6.0 ("Lamar Thomas")
  Re: How do I log onto ver. 6.0? (Scott Lanning)
  Re: Cd-rom Install Problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Can't connect to my ISP yet, here's the pppd-output... (jared >)
  DSL (Christopher Segot)
  Re: DSL (Opie)
  Re: Help, removing RH Linux 6.0 ("Douglas C. Holland")
  Re: Gnome install needs libguile.so.2 (Sylvia Wong)
  sound recording software (Chris Eastwood)
  Re: Linux/gcc Newbie Question: ("Douglas C. Holland")
  enlighten me please (Anup Rao)
  Re: How to stop service (daemon) (Howard Mann)
  Re: Unstable Netscape ("Douglas C. Holland")

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From: Marco Antoniotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 01 Jun 1999 14:26:29 +0200


Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ottavio G. Rizzo wrote:
> 
> [should companies be allowed to keep personal data, secretly?]
> 
> >>The same argument applies if I started telephoning people and telling
> >>them falsehoods about your finances.  Yes, you would be able to sue me
> >>for slander if my actions harmed you; but that's not an argument for
> >>saying that all telephone calls should be monitored, or that I should
> >>let you listen in to any calls I make - even if they are about you.
> >
> >If you were doing so, that could well be a legitimate reason to
> >monitor *your* phone calls.
> 
> Clearly you and I have very different views on what is acceptable and
> what isn't.  But if you take that view then yes, it does also make
> sense for companies to be forced to disclose information.

I do not understand why you think that companies should not be forced
to disclose to *you* the information they hold *about you*.  Unless
you have given explicit permission to them to do otherwise.

> >>Okay, so _you_ should have the right to view other people's
> >>information if it concerns you, while _they_ should not have the right
> >>to keep secrets.  Do you not think you're hoarding all the 'rights' to
> >>yourself here?
> >
> >The same rights apply to you, being in the UK :)  And I have little
> >simpathy for corporate rights in any case
> 
> That's another question - do companies have the same rights as
> individuals?  Most people would say no, and I think I agree.  But they
> should still have some legal rights of course.

I believe that is *the* question, And the answer is that the rights of
the individual should be held in greater consideration than the rights
of the corporation (company, entreprise).

        ...

> >In the US a student has the right to access every document about his
> >results: when I applied to grad school, I just had to waive my right
> >to read the recommandation letters. But it was my choice, it applied
> >only to those letters, I knew were they were, and the system still
> >works.
> 
> That sounds like a very good system.  I was worried that the right to
> look at documents was inalienable, so that you could promise to waive
> your right to see them, then once the letters are written, you can
> change your mind and threaten legal action if you don't get a look. 
> But if you are allowed to voluntarially give up that right for certain
> documents, then there isn't a problem with references and so on.

This is one of the pillars of all the "privacy protection" laws passed
in Europe and in the US. Europe laws are usually better than the US
ones (I don't know whether a federal law has been passed yet), but
they are not perfect.

> >>Also, I think it's an infringement of my privacy that I have to
> >>inform the government if I'm collecting a list of names.
> >
> >And I suppose you believe that a national ID infringes your privacy, too.
> 
> Not privacy - the govt. has records of who I am anyway - but it would
> really piss me off to have to carry an ID card with me.

You carry your driver's license I suppose.  And you carry your Credit
Cards with you.  And you get pissed if the Goverment asked you to
carry a piece of ID?  Come on.

Cheers

-- 
Marco Antoniotti ===========================================
PARADES, Via San Pantaleo 66, I-00186 Rome, ITALY
tel. +39 - 06 68 10 03 17, fax. +39 - 06 68 80 79 26
http://www.parades.rm.cnr.it/~marcoxa

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From: Charles Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: connect to linux as root using SMB
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:18:21 -0400

Well after rtfm for a few days, I stumbled across my own answer.
Add this line in smb.conf and I'm all set:

[global]
admin users = username

Charles

Charles Wilkins wrote:

> Is there a way to connect to linux using the SMB service from Win95?
>
> I am having no problems connecting with a normal user account, but I need
> access to all the files and I would prefer to not have to extend root
> privileges to my user account.
>
> Like all of the other linux services, remote root does not appear to be an
> option.
> At least telnet has su . . .
>
> Is there anything like this for SMB?
>
> regards,
> Charles Wilkins
>
> Where do you want microsoft to go today?


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From: "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I log onto ver. 6.0?
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 02:55:17 GMT

How do I log onto ver. 6.0?


I just installed Redhat Linux 6.0 server and rebooted my system.  I am at
the X Windows login but don't know what to enter as a login name and
password.  The Installtion never asked me to make a user name.  However, it
did ask me to set a "Root" password.  Can anyone help me log on now that
it's up and running?  Thanks for your help.

Lamar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: Rodney Loisel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie having problems mounting floppy
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:46:05 -0400

you can mount either ext2 (Linux) or vfat (Windows) floppies:
first you need to create (or make sure there is) a mount point which  is
simply a directory in /mnt...  mkdir /mnt/<whatever>
I used /mnt/floppy for ext2 and /mnt/msflop for vfat (any name will do)
If the directory already exists then go ahead and ;
mount  -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/msflop    (for Windows disk)
mount -t  ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/msflop   (for Linux disk formatted disk)
if that works then do the following as super user (root - you also need to be
   logged in as root to do the mount commands for now.)
FIRST back up fstab "cp /etc/fstab /etc/<backupfilename> (avoid using
fstab.bak for now)
   in case you have a problem with the editor...

vi /etc/fstab
vi starts in command mode  move to a new line and type 'a' to go into
edit mode: type on  that line
/dev/fd0 /mnt/msflop vfat noauto,user 0 0
   and on another line:
/dev/fd0  /mnt/floppy ext2 noauto,user 0 0
this assumes that you have/or have created the /mnt/floppy  and /mnt/msflop
directories.
to save the file, hit the [esc] key and type a colon ':' and a 'w' to write
the file.
                                                        then a colon ':' and a
'q' to quit...

This lengthy explanation is what I would have liked to have a year ago when I
was
slightly more clueless about Linux than I am today.. Hope this helps.

trent wrote:

> AnOldCowboy wrote:
>
> > I have Redhat 5.2 installed as workstation and can't
>
> > get the floppy mounted. First I gor the error message
>
> > saying {cant find mention of /dev/fd0 in /ect/mtab or
>
> > /ect/fstab} Edited the files and now get the message
>
> > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
>
> > /dev/fd0, or too many mounted file systems. Watched
>
> > the boot info and noticed entrys saying max amount
>
> > of devices mounted hda6 and hda5, max number is 4.
>
> > device fd0 is not a block device. That is not the exact
>
> > wording but as close as I can do. When useing disk
>
> > manager it reports 4 mounted devices including the
>
> > cdrom. Tryed unmounting the cdrom and still get the
>
> > same message. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> > TIA
>
> Hi,
>
> In your fstab file (located in /etc/) there will be a reference to floppy
>
> or fd0 (or something similar, can't quite remember right now).  On this
>
> line in /etc/fstab where it says "ext2" change this to "msdos" (assuming
>
> that the floppies you are putting in are IBM formatted, which is probably
>
> the case).
>
> Now Linux knows which filesystem you are trying to use in the floppy drive
>
> (ext2 is a Linux filesystem).
>
> Now simply type "mount /mnt/floppy"  then "cd /mnt/floppy" and if you do a
>
> "ls" you should be seeing the files that are on your floppy.
>
> Hint: make sure there are some msdos files on the floppy disk you have
>
> inserted, or else you'll get confused.
>
> Regards, Trent.
>
> ------------------  Posted via SearchLinux  ------------------
>                   http://www.searchlinux.com




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From: FUJITA Yasushi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting joliet CDROM media
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:48:15 +0900

Turn on the kernel's Micro$oft Joliet CDROM Support and recompile it.

"Scott Gravenhorst (see sig for reply)" wrote:
> 
> I can mount iso9660, but not joliet.  If I try 'mount -t joliet...' an
> error message is issued regarding no such filesystem.
> 
> What is necessary to enable long file name format on joliet CDROM
> media?
> 
> Thank you all.
> -- Scott Gravenhorst
> -- FatMan Site: www.teklab.com/~chordman
> -- Please reply to:
> -- see aech oh are dee em ay en AT ef el ay es aech dot en ee tee
> -- I apologize for the above, but spammers are getting too tricky.

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From: Chuck Cusack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RealPlayer G2...
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:14:36 -0500

I keep reading about RealPlayer G2, and there is no Linux version listed on
the realplayer site.
Where are people getting it?  Also I have read that RealPlayer has problems
under RedHat 6.0
Is this true, and if so, does this alleged G2 version work O.K.
Chuck

henk van der knaap wrote:

> Dear Readers,
>
> Another question about RealAudio. I have now installed RealPlayer G2 on my
> Linux Debian 2.1 box. It works fine, video works, except no sound!
> Although I managed to get a .rm file to play with sound once. My soundcard
> is okay, I can play CD's etc., 'cat file > /dev/audio' produces sound. I
> have a soundblaster card SB16. This is the output from /dev/sndstat.
>




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Subject: Re: Mounting an HPFS partition
Reply-To: Dr Vincent C Jones PE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dr Vincent C Jones PE)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:48:28 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ed Lentz  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 05 Jun 1999, Kaya Imre wrote:
>>
>>That works here nicely.  Did you include HPFS in your kernel 
>>definition?
>>
>
>I dunno. I have the standard Red Hat 5.2 installl. How would I check for this
>and if its not there what would I do to add it.

Red Hat 5.2 does not include HPFS in their default kernel. You will need
to recompile after configuring to include HPFS support. Be aware,
however, that the HPFS support in Linux is READ ONLY. So to go both
ways, you'll need either a FAT partition or to install Ext2 drivers in
your OS/2 (I have a common FAT partition, as I also share with DOS and
NT, so I can't speak on the Ext2 drivers available for OS/2).

-- 
   Dr. Vincent C. Jones, PE              Expert advice and a helping hand
   Computer Network Consultant           for those who want to manage and
   Networking Unlimited, Inc.            control their networking destiny
   http://www.networkingunlimited.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Unstable Netscape
Date: 7 Jun 1999 09:00:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 6 Jun 1999 15:59:53 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> . . . (But at least when Netscape crashes in linux, it doesn't take the
>entire system down with it....)

On my system it occasionally does.  That is, it doesn't actually
bring down Linux itself, but it locks X.  Since I don't have any
other terminals on this system, and X is ignoring the keyboard and
mouse, I have to use the reset button to get control back.

"Occasionally" means about once per six months.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy." 
        -Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Making an ICQ server
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 02:47:38 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas Bollinger) wrote:
>
[SNIP]
> Another great advantage to ICQ is that you can easily see if someone
> on your buddy list is online and read to talk.  It transparently
> handles the fact the most internet users don't have a dedicated IP#.
> It's great for sending someone a quick message, and in a pinch works
> well as chat client and allows the users to exchange binaries.
>
> It would be nice if some of the UN*X diehards around here would
> crawl out from under their rocks and see what's going on in the rest
> of the world.  There are some good reasons why ICQ is one of the
> most d/l programs on the internet.

Very good points, although I'm a HUGE *NIX fan...  There are several ICQ
clients for *NIX, which I hear are pretty good, athough I think that
they're still missing a few of the features of the new client.  I'd
really like to see somebody port AIM to *NIX, since that's the best 2
person chat client that I've found, and it does really well with
firewalls since it uses almost only UDP, from what I've seen.
     Greg
>
> --
> Douglas Bollinger
> Mt. Holly Springs, PA   17065
>
> My other computer runs Linux.
>


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From: Benoit Lefebvre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I log onto ver. 6.0?
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:06:16 -0400

Your password is the password you've entered in the setup
for the login, it's root

root is like the user Administrator with WindowsNT
it's the system operator

On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Lamar Thomas wrote:

> How do I log onto ver. 6.0?
> 
> 
> I just installed Redhat Linux 6.0 server and rebooted my system.  I am at
> the X Windows login but don't know what to enter as a login name and
> password.  The Installtion never asked me to make a user name.  However, it
> did ask me to set a "Root" password.  Can anyone help me log on now that
> it's up and running?  Thanks for your help.
> 
> Lamar
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From: "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help, removing RH Linux 6.0
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 03:44:47 GMT

Help, removing RH Linux 6.0

I just installed RH Linux 6.0 and would like to practice removing it.  Can
anyone tell me how?  What about the Linux partitions?  Thanks, I am new to
Linux and just installed it for the first time!

Lamar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: Scott Lanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I log onto ver. 6.0?
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:08:40 -0400

>I just installed Redhat Linux 6.0 server and rebooted my system.
>I am at the X Windows login but don't know what to enter as a login
>name and password.  The Installtion never asked me to make a user
>name. However, it did ask me to set a "Root" password.  Can anyone
>help me log on now that it's up and running?  Thanks for your help.

You log in as the "root" user. Then put use whatever password
you chose during installation. (I remember that confused me for
a minute, too, and I had even used Unix for a few years before
getting Linux).
    After you login initially, you're *supposed* to create another
user to use, say called lamart or whatever. That user will then
have less permissions and hence less probability of messing up
your files and stuff. I'm kinda bad about it, though, and always
login as root because it's annoying 'su'ing to root all the time
(but OTOH, it's *supposedly* safer).


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.help,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Cd-rom Install Problem
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 04:45:31 GMT

I am running my cd player as the seconday master.  I tried the line 'linux 
hdc=cdrom', but it didn't work.  Before I get to the installation process I 
watch the following:

hdc: no response (status=0xff), resetting drive
hdc: drive not ready for command
hdc: ATAPI reset timed-out, status=0xff

I see that several times before the install finally begins.
When it gets to the point where I can select to install from local cd, it then 
goes to 'Initializing Cd-rom', then jumps to a blue screen and hangs there.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Collin

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From: jared <"<defaultuser"@domain.com>>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Can't connect to my ISP yet, here's the pppd-output...
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 00:55:35 -0400

This is excellent advice; when I read Bill's HowTo , that simple sentence was a
revelation.

Bill Unruh wrote:

>
>
> Just write a script to give your ISP what it wants. See
> axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
> for instructions as to how to do it.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Segot)
Subject: DSL
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 03:57:38 GMT

I am looking into getting a adsl connection, it would be a dynamic ip
assignment. I am curious as to other peoples experiences with this.
Mostly it would be used as a single connection to the internet but
possibly as a gateway for both my computers which are networked.
I might need to connect a win95 box as well. Any insights are
apprieciated.

                                        ~Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Opie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DSL
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 00:02:21 -0500

DSL + Linux = Excellent Combo!!!!
I should know.. i have it.


Christopher Segot wrote:

> I am looking into getting a adsl connection, it would be a dynamic ip
> assignment. I am curious as to other peoples experiences with this.
> Mostly it would be used as a single connection to the internet but
> possibly as a gateway for both my computers which are networked.
> I might need to connect a win95 box as well. Any insights are
> apprieciated.
>
>                                         ~Chris
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Douglas C. Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help, removing RH Linux 6.0
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:16:52 -0600

Lamar Thomas wrote:

> Help, removing RH Linux 6.0
>
> I just installed RH Linux 6.0 and would like to practice removing it.  Can
> anyone tell me how?  What about the Linux partitions?  Thanks, I am new to
> Linux and just installed it for the first time!
>
> Lamar
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

There are many ways to completely get rid of Redhat 6.0 (but why? ;).  The
one I would go with is to boot with an MS-DOS or Win 9x boot disk, run fdisk
to repartition the hard drive into FAT partitions, then run fdisk -mbr to
rewrite the master boot record with the standard MS-DOS boot record.  Then
you can reinstall Win 9x or MS-DOS or whatever from there.  A good shortcut
would be a utility like Partition Magic.

--
Doug Holland
1010D Remington St. Ft. Collins, CO 80521
970-224-2962 home voice
Web: http://www.frii.com/~meldroc/   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sylvia Wong)
Subject: Re: Gnome install needs libguile.so.2
Date: 7 Jun 1999 04:27:21 GMT

On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:47:55 -0600, David Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have Redhat 6.0, and am trying to install gnome.  I have everything
>downloaded, and am unable to get it to install because of a dependency on
>libguile.so.2.
>

Look in your redhat cd (Redhat/RPMS/i386). It should all be in there.
libguile will probably in a package call guile... or libguile..
If I remember correctly, gnome also need umb-scheme and xscreensave,
which should also be on the cd.

good luck.

-- 
The economy depends about as much on economists as the weather does on
weather forecasters.                            -- Jean-Paul Kauffmann

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://linux.ele.auckland.ac.nz/~swon074 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Eastwood)
Subject: sound recording software
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 04:42:03 GMT

HiYa

I am considering installing caldera on my machine at home and I was wondering 
if there are any packages out there for this platform that would allow me to 
record my LP's onto MP3 format.

I know that I can buy some stuff that works well on PC platform, any 
suggetions?


See Ya
(when bandwidth gets better ;-)

Chris Eastwood
Photographer, Programmer               email    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Motorcyclist and dingbat

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From: "Douglas C. Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux/gcc Newbie Question:
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:24:05 -0600

Salvador wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I recently migrated from Win 9x to Linux.  After getting my OS's set up
> (I am running RedHat 5.2 on a laptop and S.u.S.E 6.1 on a desktop), I
> set about testing the gcc compiler.  I compiled a HelloWorld script
> using g++ -o file file.C.  The compile went okay.  I then executed the
> program with exec /path/to/file
>
> The program executed, but after executing, it kicked me out of my login
> shell and I was forced to login again.  I tested this on the system
> running RedHat, and the system running S.u.S.E.  It did it in both
> cases.
>
> The profiles that I was logged in as had ownership over the directory
> (/home/user), it did it both when logged in with a user account, and
> when logged in to root.
>
> For the record, I have looked in the comp.c.lang faq index, and there
> was no reference to this problem, I looked in the tw.bbs.linux faq, and
> there was no reference.  I did a few searches on DejaNews, and though I
> found 1 reference to this problem, there was no resolution offered.
>
> Does anyone know what the cause could be, and how I can remedy it?
>
> I appreciate any help that people might have to offer.

On linux, to make a small program, (let's just do a hello world program,)
the first thing you would do is make a file hello.c using whatever text
editor you prefer:

#include <stdio.h>

int main () {printf ("Hello World!\n");}

Once that's done, you compile it with the command gcc hello.c.  The result
will be a file called a.out (or you can do gcc -o hello hello.c to name
the executable "hello" instead.)  Once that's done, all you have to do is
type "./a.out" at the shell prompt to execute your program.


--
Doug Holland
1010D Remington St. Ft. Collins, CO 80521
970-224-2962 home voice
Web: http://www.frii.com/~meldroc/   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: Anup Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: enlighten me please
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:15:06 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm trying to install enlighten-conf.. the visual configuration editor for
the enlightenment window manager.


As instructed I first ran ./configure and then did make upon which I got
the following error (after a lot of things happened)..

ld: cannot open -ldb1: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [e-conf] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

Any suggestions? I've never had problems with makeing before... but I'm
not extremely experienced..
_________________________________________________________________________
    Anup Rao    |    Georgia Tech    |    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      |
=========================================================================
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friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger. -Franklin P. Jones              |
=========================================================================


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From: Howard Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to stop service (daemon)
Date: 7 Jun 1999 05:22:35 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Igor Tereshchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does anyone can point me out how to stop daemon (particularly sendmail)?
> Is there any good doc on boot process and how to config which service to
> run? I've killed half of day in attempts to find answer on above
> question
> without significant result.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Igor.

Try the" chkconfig" command and its options.

Read the man page for " chkconfig"

Cheers,


-- 
Howard Mann
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From: "Douglas C. Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unstable Netscape
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:32:25 -0600

Jakup Michaelsen wrote:

> Greets.
> One of Linux's strengths is allegeldy it's stability. I hear that, but non
> the less my Netscape crashes more often then kernel32.dll - if that's at all
> possible. I just sit there, surfing, using like 3-6 browser windows at once,
> and all of a sudden: the disapear without a trace!
> This shit has always happend, no matter what distro I've been using - Redhat
> 5.2 & 6.0 and SuSE 5.3. What da heck is wrong?!
> I'm being forced to use Windows, and it's not Bill's fault this time >:->
>
> I'd greatly appreciate any replies.
> Thank you.
> - Jakup

Sounds like netscape is doing a segmentation fault (but at least on Linux, the
only thing that dies is the misbehaving program, unlike other operating systems
we all love to hate.)  The way to confirm that is to run netscape from within
an xterm, the next time netscape dies, it may spit an error out in your xterm
such as "Segmentation Fault" or "Bus Error."  These kinds of problems are
tricky to fix.  Some suggestions: Upgrade to Netscape 4.6 - it seems pretty
stable on my system.  Also you might want to try upgrading glibc - some of the
earlier glibcs have bad interactions with Netscape.  (though upgrading glibc is
a pretty hairy operation, you may break other things by upgrading the
library.)  One thing to note if you upgrade Netscape, there are two versions of
Netscape on the web site - the "official" Linux version uses the old libc 5
libraries, there is also an "unsupported" glibc2 version of Netscape that you
might have better luck with.

--
Doug Holland
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