Linux-Misc Digest #706, Volume #23 Tue, 29 Feb 00 01:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Databases for Linux? (Bob Hart)
Re: unerase directory (Herb Stein)
Re: Setting ASCII screen colors in Linux? (william henry hsu)
Re: Netscape Navigator, Adobe Acrobat Reader (ndg)
Re: No Print Previews? (Robert Heller)
Re: Enlightenment Themes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can I do this? ("S. Park")
Re: Any idea why Enlightenment crashes so often? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Non-X GUI? (B'ichela)
Netscape 4.72 and gnuPG (Fireman71)
Re: extracting .tar.gz from windows (pat)
Re: Any idea why Enlightenment crashes so often? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: compile and configure errors with Mandrake 7.0 (K. Spoon)
Re: diald confusion (Anthony)
Re: Compiling a program crashed X and prevented me from soft-booting (Anthony)
Re: diald confusion (Anthony)
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From: Bob Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Databases for Linux?
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:10:03 -0500
Hi-
Recently, Oracle has started selling their
8.0.5 or 8i or something for Linux for
around $30. You can find it on their
web site.
I don't know about the licensing though...
-Bob
"Michael P. McCutcheon" wrote:
> Can anyone give me a list of free or low cost databases that work on
> Linux?
>
> I have heard of MySQL and mSQL. Are there any others?
>
> I am interested in creating a server-side Java application, therefore
> databases that have JDBC drivers would be nice.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Michael P. McCutcheon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Herb Stein)
Subject: Re: unerase directory
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 04:14:40 GMT
The is no such thing as unerase on Unix/Linux/Solaris. Sorry.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alexander N. Ruzhov"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, anybody!
>Who known - how unerase directory( Linux 5.9; ext2 ) with it contents?
>please help :-)
>
>Alexander N.Ruzhov
>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
--
Herb Stein
The Herb Stein Group
www.herbstein.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
314 215-3584
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Subject: Re: Setting ASCII screen colors in Linux?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (william henry hsu)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 04:27:36 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) writes:
>>>On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:12:34 GMT, william henry hsu
>>> <<S7xu4.8639$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>>>> Is there a way to remap the default screen colors (just the Linux
>>>>terminal screen colors --- not X colors) in Linux?
>$ setterm -foreground green ; setterm -background black ; setterm -store
>...at least, it worked for me, ever after "man man" and "vim test". If
>you want this all the time, put it in your .cshrc or .bashrc and have fun
>with the retro look! Only problem is that bold still comes out as white,
>but a quick perusal of the setterm man page should tell you what to put in
>before the setterm -store....
I added "setterm -bold on" to get bright green instead of plain (dim)
green, but the setting still doesn't persist for me. It seems that bold text
overrides this setting with my console setup (TERM = linux) or terminal
clients (PenguiNet and Windows 2000 telnet). The first man page or vi session
that I bring up causes it to revert to grey.
-Bill
>--
>Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
>There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
>But only Light too dim for us to see \
> ===== Usenet: ceci n'est pas une guerre des flammes =====
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William H. Hsu, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of CIS, Kansas State University
Research Scientist, Automated Learning Group, NCSA
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cis.ksu.edu/~bhsu ICQ: 28651394
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From: ndg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Navigator, Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 04:53:36 GMT
Ya, double check that. You have to have a certain version of Reader
being used with a specific version of Navigator in order for Reader to
load from inside Netscape. I think you need an earlier version of Reader
and I forget which Navigator it is; but Acrobat4 won't do it until they
release a patch or next version; something like that.
The Scotts wrote:
>
> I installed Acrobat4 last night per the readme using default values and
> have no problem printing a pdf file when Acrobat is started within KDE
> (not from the terminal). But it won't load a file as an application
> from inside Netscape, although I followed the supplied instructions (I
> think).
>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No Print Previews?
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 04:49:53 GMT
nldgr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:54:12 GMT, wrote :
n> Hans Dumbrajs wrote:
n>
n> > nldgr wrote:
n> >
n> > > Why Leenux got no print previews???
n> >
n> > what do you mean?
n>
n> I'll rephrase that question since I am using a limited number of Linux
n> apps.
n> Are there applications for Linux that have a 'print preview' similar to
n> that of the Windows print preview?
n> You click on the icon and you get a screen that shows you what the
n> document you want to print will look like on paper.
Most Linux applications generate PostScript output. These PostScript
files can be viewed on the screen with ghostscript / ghostview. TeX
and LaTeX generate DVI files, which can be viewed with xdvi (or
converted to PostScript with dvips ... -o, the output of which can be
viewed with ghostscript / ghostview). So yes, Linux does have 'print
previews'. The only 'gotcha' is a result of Linux modularity -- the
'print preview' function is not 'wired in' to the applications, but is
handled by an independent module, namely ghostscript, which in turn has
another module, ghostview, layered over it to provide a nice GUI
interface, since ghostscript itself has no 'GUI' (it is meant to
function, in part, as a command-line filter, converting PostScript to
display or printer output or to PDF or to Fax files or to PPM or ...).
n>
n>
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Enlightenment Themes
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:55:08 -0800
In article <7wHu4.1287$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Melissa Nelson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do i install enlighten themes?
>
>
Just copy the .etheme file to the /usr/share/enlightenment/theme directory or wherever
the enlightenment directory is and restart enlightenment and you should then be able
to choose the new theme
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From: "S. Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I do this?
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:01:31 GMT
VanBruggen wrote:
>
> Is it possible to download a Linux file using Windows 98 and then somehow
> install it to Linux? I have a winmodem and am unable to go onto the web
> with Linux.
>
> Thanks,
> John
When you download, if it is not displaying a text file, browser or ftp
assumes binary format which means in the form of stream of bytes. So
whichever OS you will get the same information in the file. That's why
you can download files to Windoze and read from Linux after mounting the
DOS(Win) partition.
As for modem, before giving it up, check if it is based on Lucent Tech
chip. If that's the case you may be able to use it in Linux. Try
Control-Panel/Modem/Properties. If it say LT Modem somthing like that,
it uses that chip. In other cases or if not sure, check the site
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
Cheers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any idea why Enlightenment crashes so often?
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:59:40 -0800
In article <38bb385f.3139540@news>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I've performed the standard "Gnome Workstation" install with two
> different copies of RH 6.1 and Enlightenment is always unstable.
> Gnorpm dieing of a fatal error when I attemp to access preferences is
> just one example.
>
> Any suggestions as to how I might diagnose and cure these problems
> would be greatly appreciated. I like Enlightenment and would like to
> make it my alternative (read "eventual replacement") for Windoze.
>
> I'll try to find any info needed for a precise diagnosis. I go to try
> what will be my (no exageration) 50th re-install.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> Wade Segade
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove the obvious)
The apps crashing is probobly a GNOME thing. I had similar problems with the older
GNOME. You should seriously consider upgrading GNOME from the default RH 6.1 version.
The latest stable is 1.0.55. I run the unstable GNOME 1.1.4 now and it works very well
with Enlightenment although I use sawmill as it operates better with GNOME.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Non-X GUI?
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:12:57 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 01:20:20 GMT, Antryg Windrose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Keep in mind that you can drastically change the look and feel of the
>interface depending on the window manager you use. Fvwm has a
>configuration that looks an awful lot like Win98, or you can go with
>Gnome or KDE. I use LessTif myself. Or, you can play with the X and Xt
>libraries and write your own window manager. The same batch of
>applications will run in all these different environment. (Well, I think
>Gnome provides a bit of functionality that the others ignore, IIRC.)
Reguarding look and feel, is there a windows manager that
looks like Microsoft Windows 3.11? I kinda like that style.
--
B'ichela
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From: Fireman71 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 4.72 and gnuPG
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:14:21 +0000
I have netscape 4.72 and the GNUpg version of pgp. What I want to do is
set up netscape which i use for all my emails to automatically sign each
message i send. I searched around the netscape web site and could not
find anything that even looked remotely relevant there about doing this.
Can anyone offer any suggestions or point me to a web site that explains
how to do this?
Thanks In Advance,
Ian K. Harrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: extracting .tar.gz from windows
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:30:15 GMT
Neil Zanella wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Is it possible to extract .tar.gz archives from Windows?
> I tried with WinZip 7.0 but it did not work.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
There's a dandy little utility called untgz (it runs under dos)I think you
can find it at Simtelnet,There's another windoze program called Quikview
that opens all kinds of files I glommed it off a corel wordperfect office
suite disk good luck
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any idea why Enlightenment crashes so often?
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:36:46 GMT
I thought I'd try E again, as neither RH 6.1 nor Mandrake 6.1 have, in
all the times I've installed them, given me a fully functional
Windowmaker. I wish I could use it, though. I liked it under RH 5.2.
Perhaps I should dry a non-RH based distro?
On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 03:38:37 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Christopher Browne) wrote:
>Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>would say:
>>I've performed the standard "Gnome Workstation" install with two
>>different copies of RH 6.1 and Enlightenment is always unstable.
>>Gnorpm dieing of a fatal error when I attemp to access preferences is
>>just one example.
>>
>>Any suggestions as to how I might diagnose and cure these problems
>>would be greatly appreciated. I like Enlightenment and would like to
>>make it my alternative (read "eventual replacement") for Windoze.
>>
>>I'll try to find any info needed for a precise diagnosis. I go to try
>>what will be my (no exageration) 50th re-install.
>
>You may want to consider an alternative to Enlightenment. It is big,
>memory-hungry, CPU-hungry, and is also hungry for a *POWERFUL* graphics
>card. It challenges the robustness of the X server. Overall, quite a
>monster.
>
>You may want to try something a bit more modest. WindowMaker is quite
>popular, and SawMill is *particularly* popular amongst Gnome fans.
>
>--
>"Over the centuries the Indians developed sign language for
>communicating phenomena of interest. Programmers from different
>tribes (FORTRAN, LISP, ALGOL, SNOBOL, etc.) could use one that doesn't
>require them to carry a blackboard on their ponies." -- Alan Perlis
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/xwindows.html>
Wade Segade
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove the obvious)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K. Spoon)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: compile and configure errors with Mandrake 7.0
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:40:58 GMT
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Eric Laffoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>any truly guru types who can answer this for me. I'm not a C++
>programmer... I go up to Perl and some oo stuff, so I don't really know
>what is hapening here except I I have Mandrake 7.0 on a fresh partition
>and it seems to fail to compile about half the KDE programs I send it.
>Some of these I have compiled in Mandrake 6.1. I suspect it has
>something to do with an instruction I can give it regarding a compiler
>with the ./configure command, but I'm just in a crap shoot and guessing.
>
>I've done some research and this is as far as I got. I have a definite
>problem and I'd like to find an answer that makes me feel secure about
>being able to compile any program and advising others with some
>comfidence.
Heya Eric,
I used to work for another Linux distribution, and one of my main tasks
was recompiling everything to work with gcc-2.95.2. There are a lot
of issues there, but the one that most directly applies to your
situation is that the C++ stuff in gcc-2.95.2 isn't exactly "bug-free".
In fact, it's pretty nappy. Add to this the fact that 2.95.x is
an attempt to force standards compliance on programmers (who all
seem to be sticking with egcs )-: ) and that C++ just recently
got some standards and you've got problems.
In a lot of C++ programs' autoconfigure scripts, the script is trying
to figure out what's avaiable on the system. To do this, it tries
to compile some simple test programs... if they succeed, the
lib/header/function is present on the machine, if they fail, it's
not. For whatever reason, gcc doesn't like the C++ code that's
in this quick test, so it refuses to compile. That's not a big
deal if it's checking for an optional library but it's crucial
if it's testing for something like Qt.
So. You have four choices for hacking around this.
1) Just use the binary compiled on an earlier version of Mandrake.
2) See if the software maintainer has released an updated
version that's gcc-2.95.2 "safe".
3) Patch the configure script (and possibly the source code)
for the software so that it's using what gcc 2.95.2 thinks
is the Right Way to Do Stuff(tm).
4) Install an earlier version of the compiler and use that
to compile your program.
If there's any interest, I can whip up some egcs-1.1.2 (compiler
used in Mandrake 6.1) compatability RPM for Mandrake 7.0. I've
already got a gcc-2.7.2.3 RPM at:
http://www.gerf.org/~kspoon/RPMS/gcc2723-compat-1.0-1mdk.i386.rpm
(SRPM is in ~kspoon/SRPMS)
To use, you just install the RPM and use something like this to
configure your program:
CFLAGS="-V2.7.2.3" ./configure --prefix=/blah (and so on)
The -V flag tells gcc to use a different version of gcc, and the
name/number part is a directory name in
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/
Probably more info than you wanted. :-)
Short version: try installing the 2723 rpm and making sure you
configure the program with CFLAGS="-V2.7.2.3" and see what
happens.
Take it easy,
--
Kelley Spoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
There are two kinds of people: people who USED Linux and like it
and people who never used Linux and don't like it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony)
Subject: Re: diald confusion
Date: 29 Feb 2000 06:00:20 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am trying to set-up a dial on demand connection to my ISP and am
>somewhat confused. I am running RH6.1 distro.
>
>I have a local network (2 machines, 1 Linux, server, 1 Windoze NT). What
>I would like to do is dial whenever either machine needs access to the
>internet. I have been doing some reading but am not quite sure how it
>all fits together. So far I have come up with the following diald.conf
>file.
...snap...
You can forget about diald. Use pppd with the "demand" option
instead. In the script /etc/ppp/ppp-on, in the "exec" line
just insert a "demand" there will do. Also there is a timeout
option so that if net request is idle for a certain amount of
time, pppd will go down until the next request.
I have tested it for a while, but the whole dial-on-demand thing
does not work very well. It would be better to configure your
gateway to use a dial server, when a client want to connect to the
net, he/she can run a dialer client to request the dial server to
go online. It is more flexible.
Search on freshmeat on the topic "masq dialer". And yes, the dial
client runs on both Linux and Windows.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony)
Subject: Re: Compiling a program crashed X and prevented me from soft-booting
Date: 29 Feb 2000 05:48:12 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I had an extremely odd experience last night on my Linux system; I was
>hoping someone here might be able to make some sense of it.
>
... lots of strange errors...
>
>Finally, I gave up and power-cycled the machine. fsck came into play during
>the startup procedure, since my partitions hadn't been cleanly unmounted,
>and it found dozens of errors on my /usr partition (the only one I have
>other than swap and "/"). I didn't catch all of them, and neglected to
>save a copy, but I recall several occurrances of "/tmp/orbit-mcafee" (a
>GNOME file, correct?) and also errors in several files under the
>emulator's build directory. When I finally logged in and started X, the
>emulator executable was gone--both the one in the build directory AND the
>copy I had placed in /usr/local/bin. Once again puzzled, I typed "make",
>but the build failed because, as g++ pointed out to me, at least one of the
>source files had a null byte in it. I sighed, nuked the source, and
>unpacked it fresh from the tarball. The build proceeded normally until, as
>before, X crashed. I'm fairly sure that it was the same source file that
>was causing all of this X-crashing. I completed the build from the text
>console, and from that point on my machine has been behaving normally,
>including the shutdown procedure.
>
>Now... Can someone tell me what the HELL was going on?
My best guess is: corrupted binaries, libc libraries. It happened
to me once and some of the people I know. Some of the SCSI and IDE
drivers have bugs and on certain older kernel version they can
corrupt the file system. It wont happen to everyone though.
Otherwise it could be a hardware program: hard disk. That's why
a journal file system is important, and if the journal file system
comes up errors you can be quite sure there is a hardware problem.
Your best bet is to boot from floppy, fsck all the Linux partitions.
You can even reformat the swap partition. After that, re-install
the base system: libc and all the base system utilities and the
X servers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony)
Subject: Re: diald confusion
Date: 29 Feb 2000 06:04:11 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am trying to set-up a dial on demand connection to my ISP and am
>somewhat confused. I am running RH6.1 distro.
>
>I have a local network (2 machines, 1 Linux, server, 1 Windoze NT). What
>I would like to do is dial whenever either machine needs access to the
>internet. I have been doing some reading but am not quite sure how it
>all fits together. So far I have come up with the following diald.conf
>file.
The reason that the dial-on-demand doesnt work well is
that there are many net applications that generate requests
so often that the timeout setting, no matter how long or short
you set, will unlikely to timeout: you will get lots of dns
requests, mail server checks per 5 minutes and many other
stuff that prevent the timer from timeout.
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