Linux-Misc Digest #443, Volume #24               Fri, 12 May 00 03:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  problems mounting VFAT ("Jason Northrup")
  Re: From Linux BACK to Win 98SE (Scott Babb)
  lilo overwritten
  Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk (John Hasler)
  Problems installing XFree86 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: problems mounting VFAT (Dances With Crows)
  Re: clock ("leo.ladner")
  Re: telnet out of network issue ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Instruction Access Exception ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  signal 7 caught / ftp trouble (Alex)
  Re: FreeBSD and Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: .wmf and .vsd files (Steven Yap)
  Re: telnet out of network issue (Sam E. Trenholme)
  Re: lilo overwritten (Sam E. Trenholme)
  Re: Memory unrecognized (not the >64M problem!) (Sven Bovin)
  Re: signal 7 caught / ftp trouble (Sam E. Trenholme)
  Re: Linux Login Logo (Sam E. Trenholme)
  Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk (Darren Winsper)
  Re: Webcams + Sound activated alarm system ("Dave Liquorice")
  Re: FreeBSD and Linux (Sam E. Trenholme)
  Re: Need solid facts: Why Linux over NT (Pierre Vigneras)
  Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk (Gerald Willmann)
  passwd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk (Prof. Gunter Bengel)

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From: "Jason Northrup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: problems mounting VFAT
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 23:16:20 -0400

I am really new to linux, so I don't know where to go next.  I have a 30GB
hard drive that has only 3 fat32 partitions, while linux is on a seperate
hard drive.  I have successfully mounted the first partition (primary) by
using:
   mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /system

My problem is that I can't use this same syntaxt with the second and third
partitions (both are in the extended partition) in order to mount them.
Does anybody know how I can do this successfully?



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From: Scott Babb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: From Linux BACK to Win 98SE
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 03:21:33 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Jeff W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I currently have Corel Linux OS on my laptop and I just don't
> like the way  it works, I've had monitor problems, and a whole
> mess of things. I want to  take it off completely and reinstall
> Win 98SE. Now, I have Win 2000 on my terminal and I don't know
> what kind of startup disk I'll need. Are there any suggestions
> on how to go back to 98 on the laptop??  Thanks in advance.
>

Can I get this engraved on a bronze plaque?  I know a couple
of Windows lovers who will go into spasms if they read that
someone installed Linux but finds Win98 too hard to reinstall!


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lilo overwritten
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 03:30:11 GMT

I accidently installed windows, over linux. i do not know what happened
to the linux partition. but i assume the partition to be safe, but lilo
boot has been delete, & i also have not made any boot disk.
what to do now?
-pramod.R

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 02:48:18 GMT

Christopher Browne writes:
> They appear to regard it as a "cult" rather than as an ordinary religion.
> I would tend to agree with that regard.

I thought Hubbard was dead.  Perhaps he has not been dead long enough?

> Ah, but if they cannot have _any_ regulations on religion or religious
> activity, this means that those that would wish to do nefarious things
> need only establish themselves as a religion, and establish the nefarious
> activities as religious activities.

No.  By "regulate religion" I mean "We have determined that your
organization is a religion, so you must register with the Ministry of
Religion and follow its regulations" or suchlike.  Regulating "nefarious
things" without regard to the sociological classification of organizations
involved with them does not constitute regulating religion.  Forbidding
certain activities to religious organizations while allowing them to all
others (or vice-versa) is.

> Scientology has some activities (running businesses, running conferences,
> providing "business technologies") that appear _not_ to be religious
> matters.

This distinguishes them from the Catholic Church how?

> Whilst religious organizations traditionally encourage the widespread
> dissemenation of their "scriptures," whether that be the Koran, the
> Christian Bible, Hindu scriptures, or such,...

I'm sure that this will come as quite a surprise to students of the myriad
of mystery religions that have existed over the millennia.

> If you regard religious activities as being inherently irrational,...

Much (perhaps most) human activity is irrational.

> ...and thereby a "bad thing,"...

I don't consider that which is irrational to be automatically "bad".

> ...then the _appropriate_ direction that comes from that regard should be
> to forbid them altogether.

Nor do I have any desire to see all that I consider "bad things" forbidden.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems installing XFree86
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 03:53:36 GMT

Hi All,

   I have Red Hat Linux 6.1 on my computer at the moment, I want to
upgrade XFree86 to ver 4. I've downloaded all the binaries from:

http://sunsite.org.uk/packages/XFree86/4.0/binaries/FreeBSD-4.x
to /tmp directory

   When I try to run the ".sh" file (sh Xinstall.sh) it comes up with
an error message along these lines "invalid extract file, renamed it to
extract.exe.bad".

   I've issued the following command

chmod +x extract
chmod +x extract.exe

then tried to run the "extract" or "extract.exe" command, I get an
error ":bash uknnown command", when you do ls -al, extract has the
following attributes "rwxr-xr-x". Could this be a corrupted of copy
extract? Please help if you know the answer.

Thanks in advance!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: problems mounting VFAT
Date: 12 May 2000 00:04:41 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 11 May 2000 23:16:20 -0400, Jason Northrup 
<<gIKS4.44757$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
shouted forth into the ether:
>I am really new to linux, so I don't know where to go next.  I have a 30GB
>hard drive that has only 3 fat32 partitions, while linux is on a seperate
>hard drive.  I have successfully mounted the first partition (primary) by
>using:
>   mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /system
>
>My problem is that I can't use this same syntaxt with the second and third
>partitions (both are in the extended partition) in order to mount them.
>Does anybody know how I can do this successfully?

...make sure you know about the standard PC disk-partitioning scheme.  
hda1 through hda4 are the primary partitions; usually one of these is set
up as an extended partition.  On A LoseXX install that's partitioned,
you'll often have hda1 hda2 <hda5 hda6 hda....> meaning there's one
primary partition at hda1, one extended partition at hda2, and a bunch of
logical partitions inside the extended partition at hda5 .. hdaN.  More
than likely your second FAT32 partition is on hda5 and the third is on
hda6.

mount -t vfat /dev/hda5  /somewhere
mount -t vfat /dev/hda6  /somewhereelse

HTH.
-- 
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There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being stupid,
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| as I have to run nothing but a
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| burp in the butt.  --MegaHAL

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From: "leo.ladner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: clock
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 04:11:29 GMT

Thanks , there was two icons covering it.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: telnet out of network issue
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 04:10:25 GMT


> >When I do the same thing while running my Win install I have never
had
> >this problem.
>
> Of course not.  With raw telnet, you have to wait for the server to
> respond to what you are typing.  Over a low internet link or a dial-up
> connection, you will feel the delay.
>
> The way Windoze avoids this is simple: Your mud client only sends the
> command after you type it, so there is no network delay in the actual
> typing of this command.

Intriguing.  I am not arguing, just trying to talk this through.  I
don't fully understand your reply and would really like to.
Most of the time I use CRT a robust raw telnet client in windows.  Yes I
use Zmud every so often I am not going to lie.

Thing is, if I type the command in Zmud and hit enter the full command
is sent in one packet/group of packets.  My response from the server is
nearly instantanious often.

If I am using a raw telnet connection each key stroke is registered by
the host at time of my typing, I hit enter and I thought that the host
should reply immediately.

when I telnet directly to other servers, for example from home to work
servers, the response time is automatic.  When I telnet out of those
servers, to the mud server, again automatic, but I don't want to use
that proxy.

I have tried Kmud, any comments?


> >I need my MUD fix and can't get it with Linux.
>
> You just need to know where you can get the kool mud fix.
>
> May I suggest TinyFugue, aka tf.

Thanks for the Tf I will try that quite soon, I am stress testing the
SuSE install.  My install of Mandrake 7.0 was terribly unstable becoming
totally unresponsive at random times (usually between 15 minutes to an
hour even when loging out or in) so it is refreshing to have had my
system up for two days now with no issues.


> You can find a binch of tf RPMs here:
>
>       http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/TByName.html
>
> Starting with:
>
>
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/suse/6.3/i386/suse/fun1/tf-40s1-42.i386
.html
>
> Looks like SuSE already comes with this wonderful program.  Try typing
> this at the command prompt:
>
>       tf
>
> You probably will want some help using this client.  Look up 'Tiny
Fugue'
> at www.google.com, or, more simply:
>
>       man tf
>
> I believe you open up a MUD simply with
>
>       /open name.of.mud.server port
>
> As in
>
>       /open mud.example.com 6969
>
> - Sam
Thanks Sam
Mike


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Instruction Access Exception
Date: 12 May 2000 04:23:29 GMT

Hey all,

I'm trying to recompile the kernel on my SPARCstation 10.

I downloaded the source (2.2.12 and 2.2.14 tried) from tsx-11, make
config, make dep, make vmlinux, make modules, copied vmlinux to
/boot/vmlinux-2.2.14 (also moved the System.map), and updated silo.conf
appropriately.

What fairly obvious step am I missing here?  Every time I boot a kernel
that I have compiled myself, I get "Instruction Access Exception" and get
kicked back to the boot PROM.  I then restart the system with the 'boot'
command and use the old kernel to get back in.

Ideas?

--J

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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: signal 7 caught / ftp trouble
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 04:30:08 GMT

Hi,
 I am trying to install RedHat 6.1 on a 486. I put in a CD-ROM drive
temporarily to install of CD. I have to boot up from disk, and after the
first 2 screens, I get a 'signal 7 caught' message, the installer
stops and tells me I can reboot now.
 Later, if I boot from the bootnet.img in order for an ftp install, the
install keeps retrying the download of the stage2.img from my ftp (on a
mac). It doesn't get to transferring hdlist or the comps file.
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Alex

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: 12 May 2000 04:58:44 GMT

John S. Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Christopher Browne wrote:
:> <http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-project-9911/msg00042.html>
:> has a discussion thread entitled "Stop Debian/FreeBSD," so evidently some
:> people aren't thrilled with the idea...
: 
: That is kind of interesting, because it would be good to have a
: Linux-style OS with a freely redistributable (in the sense of developer
: free), non-redistribution encumbered kernel.

        What's the advantage of a "Linux-style" OS?

        Personally, I got sick of the "Linux-style" (or ten dozen flavors
        thereof) and started looking for something more cohesive,
        predictable, and easier to deal with overall.  I found FreeBSD.

        I want to see a better *Unix*, not a better "Linux".

        The good I see from such a project as Debian/FreeBSD, could possibly
        be bringing back some basic "Unix-style" and direction to the
        all-too-chaotic Linux world, at least indirectly.  I don't think the
        end result would be very useful (one of the suggestions was a
        possible effort to get FreeBSD (not Debian/FreeBSD) to replace ports
        with dpkg?!  If anything, that should be the other way around...?!),
        but the side effects of the effort could be good medicine for the
        Linux world (potentially learning a few good "Unix-style" ideas).

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medication called "System V", but infinitely more useful. (Or, at least,
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Subject: Re: .wmf and .vsd files
From: Steven Yap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 05:25:40 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (root) writes:

> I have a few documents (graphics gen'd in MS) that I need to open
> in linux with .wmf and .vsd extensions. Is there a linux app that can
> handle these?

wmf is the extension used for Windows Meta File.  It's a vector
drawing format. The vsd extension is used by Visio, a diagramming
tool. A linux "equivalent" would be dia.

The commercial office suites might be able to convert wmfs but I doubt
you would find anything for the Visio files.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: telnet out of network issue
Date: 11 May 2000 22:54:22 -0700

>Thanks for the Tf I will try that quite soon, I am stress testing the
>SuSE install.  My install of Mandrake 7.0 was terribly unstable becoming
>totally unresponsive at random times (usually between 15 minutes to an
>hour even when loging out or in) so it is refreshing to have had my
>system up for two days now with no issues.

Hmmm, this is very interesting.  Those kinds of delays are usually caused
by insufficient memory or weird hardware hozing the system.

Just what kind of computer are you trying to run Linux on, anyway?

How much memory, what kind of CPU, etc.

- Sam

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: lilo overwritten
Date: 11 May 2000 22:57:10 -0700

>I accidently installed windows, over linux. i do not know what happened
>to the linux partition. but i assume the partition to be safe, but lilo
>boot has been delete, & i also have not made any boot disk.
>what to do now?

Whip out your Linux CD, boot from the CDROM, and boot in to rescue mode.
Rerun lilo from your rescue mode.

Another way to handle this is to "upgrade" the RedHat system (if that is
what you are running) on top of itself.  This will keep your Linux files,
and rerun Lilo for you.

- Sam
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From: Sven Bovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Memory unrecognized (not the >64M problem!)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:01:05 +0100

Sandhitsu R Das wrote:
> 
> I have an old Packard Bell Legend 220CD machine with 486DX2 running at
> 66MHz. I have two RAM slots in which I currently put two 12M modules. It
> seems the second slot module is always recognized as max. 4MB. Do I have
> to tweak anuything to have its full amount recognized (even the BIOS
> recognizes 4MB only).

Looks like the infamous `memory hole at 15/16 MB' in my
Award BIOS.  Is there any such thing in your BIOS setup ?
If so, try switching that off.

HTH

Sven

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: signal 7 caught / ftp trouble
Date: 11 May 2000 23:01:45 -0700

> I am trying to install RedHat 6.1 on a 486. I put in a CD-ROM drive
>temporarily to install of CD. I have to boot up from disk, and after the
>first 2 screens, I get a 'signal 7 caught' message, the installer
>stops and tells me I can reboot now.

Sounds like a bad floppy.  Try another floppy.  Your 486's floppy drive
may also be on the blink.

> Later, if I boot from the bootnet.img in order for an ftp install, the
>install keeps retrying the download of the stage2.img from my ftp (on a
>mac). It doesn't get to transferring hdlist or the comps file.

This may sound silly, but since I answered a very similar question earlier
today, I wonder:

You do have the RedHat 6.1, not the 6.2 FTP files on your Mac FTP server.
Just checking.

- Sam

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: Linux Login Logo
Date: 11 May 2000 23:11:00 -0700

>hi there!!!!!1, thanx for replaying!, well, i've edited the issue file, it 
>has a lot of simbols and i dont know what!, well, the point is that i could 
>change it  succefuly, with colors and more......but when i rebooted, 
>everything became as it was!!!, i mean, the default massage!, What do i do?
>I spent almost 2 hs figuring out what symbols i had to change! =0), well, 
>how do i keep it?, thanx a lot!!!!!

RedHat has this nasty way of overwriting /etc/issue every time the system
reboots.  The offending code is in /etc/rc.d/rc.local

- Sam

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk
Date: 12 May 2000 06:14:34 GMT

On Thu, 11 May 2000 16:38:44 +0200, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Our governments'[0] attitude towards Scientology is another reason why
> it's good to live in Germany. They are treating Scientology as what
> they are: a ruthless international corporation with the sole goal of
> amassing as much money as possible and collecting as much data as
> possible about their members for maximum control.

While we're on the rather OT subject, here's a rather useful resource
on Scientology:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets

Read it and learn why anyone who joins can make light bend towards
them.

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From: "Dave Liquorice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Webcams + Sound activated alarm system
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 23:41:40 +0100 (BST)
Reply-To: "Dave Liquorice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Thu, 11 May 2000 20:52:14 GMT, Adrian Mann wrote:

> it is the monitoring of the sound level that is the problem - I maybe able 
> to write this in Java ( as I don't know C that well)

Wouldn't using a normal alarm PIR be more sensible? 12v to power it is 
available in your PC, use a joystick button as a single bit input port. 
Avoids problems of extraneous loud noises triggering the system, neighbours 
dog, passing emergency vehicle wind picking up and slamming a door etc...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Linux
Date: 11 May 2000 23:20:39 -0700

>       The good I see from such a project as Debian/FreeBSD, could possibly
>       be bringing back some basic "Unix-style" and direction to the
>       all-too-chaotic Linux world, at least indirectly. 

One thing I don't like about the chaotic Linux world is that people think
of this thing as "Linux" instead of thinking of it as "RedHat" or
"Slackware" or "Debian" or whatever.  This makes support on this newsgroup
much harder.  Basically, I assume the person is using RedHat unless stated
otherwise.

- Sam
 
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From: Pierre Vigneras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need solid facts: Why Linux over NT
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:53:20 +0200

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Jim Morrissey wrote:
> 
> I need to put together a presentation to convince management to use
> Linux rather than NT. To do this properly and succeed, I need solid
> facts and figures on why Linux is the better OS. Any help or pointers to
> URL's that cover this topic would be well appreciated!
> 
>         -Jim

Linux can replace NT on server machine. You have a lot of reply in this
direction (more efficient, less expensive...)

But, you must also consider has a system administrator that NT is not
multi-users (i have heard about a soft called BackOffice which allows
remote system configuration - but, it's not on NT by default. You
probably must buy it, and moreover, i've heard it's a security hole .)

So, if a user has a problem on its client machine, he must log out (save
its documents, quit application etc...), then you (as root) must log in,
repair the problem and log out (sometimes, you must also reboot the
machine). Then the user relog in restart its application, reopen its
files, and verify the problem is really repaired. If it is not, you must
restart all the procedure.

And, this, when you have more than 2-3 NT workstation is very, very,
very annoying, time spending ! I had experienced such a situation with
40 NT workstation, and i really don't whish this sort of experience to
my worst ennemy !

Last but not least, consider Microsoft Office applications (which is 90
% of workstation use) as a real confusing software. If each user has the
same version, no problem. but, if for a reason or another, you need an
older or a newer version, you are on the wrong way !

For all this reasons, i will consider Linux a better solution than NT
server *AND* NT workstation. 

The only reason for NT would be :

I *really need* a software (Office can be replaced by StarOffice,
ApplixWare, CorelOffice ...(show me a user using all possibility of MS
Office !)) which only runs under NT.

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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 23:25:06 -0700

On Fri, 12 May 2000, Christopher Browne wrote:

> >But German politicians have the right to tell their citizens that they
> >should not believe in Scientology?

sorry, but your statement reflects the rudimentary information so typical
of the American press. The issue of being recognized as a religion in
Germany is not so much one of whether people are allowed to believe in it 
(they are free to believe whatever they want). The issue is rather that
once you are a religion the state collects church tax for you and you have
a say in public radio and tons of other things. You may of course object
to them doing that for the Catholic and other churches (and I would agree
with you) but if you want church taxes collected for Scientology than why
not contact the IRS. And btw, Scientology's desperate and tasteless 
propaganda efforts in this matter seem to underline what critics accuse
them of, but the Catholic church is hardly less greedy - only more
established. 
                     Gerald
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: passwd
Date: 12 May 2000 15:06:32 +0800

I have forgotten a user ( say , tommy) 's password. So I su to root , remove the 
tommy's password  & ... :

root@~> passwd -d tommy
Changing password for user tommy
Removing password for user tommy
passwd: Success
root@~> 
root@~> su tommy
tommy@~> passwd
Changing password for tommy
(current) UNIX password:  <- press enter here as no password for tommy 
passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.


So , how to solve my problem. I'm using REDHAT 6.0.

P.S. When I looked into the /etc/passwd, I find that the entry of tommy is 

  tommy:x:1001:1001:Tommy:/home/tommy:



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prof. Gunter Bengel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: German Govt says Microsoft a security risk
Date: 12 May 2000 09:07:20 +0200

Salvador Peralta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You are correct.  There identification of an "evil other" as the root of
> one's problems is not unique to WWII Germany.  Neither is the
> expansionist political and economic agenda of the country during that
> time.  My point is simply that no government that calls itself democatic
> should actively promote intolerance and exclusion based on differences
> such as religion or race.  That the German government is restricting
> free speech and free religion in this way is frightening given what was
> happening there 2 generations ago.  
> 


Perhaps some information is called for. The german governement does
not restrict free speech and free religion. Scientology asked some 2
or three years ago to be recognized as a church because that would
have given some tax privileges. And since this is a tax issue they
asked at the relevant authority which is the "Finanzamt" (tax
office). The statute of a church was refused to them by said tax
office, not by the governement, for the reason that they are a profit
organization, which a church is not.
Then things started to get funny. If you are not satisfied with a
decision of an administrative authority you can always appeal to an
administrative court and then to a higher administrative court and
since this is considered by CO$ as a religious matter they could even
have tried to get the issue before the Constitutional court. But they
did not do this.Instead they started to publish ads in major US
journals , e.g. New York Times, saying that the german governement is
restricting free religion which is just a lie, and tried to make
pressure on the german governement via some congress menbers.
Your remarks seem to show that you have fallen for their lies.

Next is the issue of Windows 2000. When it was known that a critical
part was written by a software house owned by CO$ the governement of
the state of Bavaria , not the german governement, asked the question,
if it was possible that this part of Windows 2000 could contain a
security risk, considered that CO$ is known to have spied on people
they had difficulties with and even to have made pressure on some
state employees to spy for them. In my opinion it is the right of a
governement to express their concern. This has nothing whatsoever to
do with restricting free speech.

Gunter

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