Linux-Misc Digest #272, Volume #25               Sat, 29 Jul 00 18:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Script help ("David ..")
  Re: ftp (Anna)
  Re: ftp (Anna)
  Re: ftp (Anna)
  The module for NIC can't be used after the restruction of kernel. (Eiichi NISHINA)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Smitty)
  Re: Unresolved Symbols (was: simple question) (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Newbie Question: Redirection to a File ("David ..")
  Re: linux version of pcview ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
  Re: mail server routing info ("Clon^Hanne")
  A troubling problem with GNOME and UID. (Madhusudan Singh)
  Linus Torvalds on CNN Today (maybe) (Mark S. Bilk)
  Re: non-English letters in xterm (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Domingo 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez?=)
  Problem with the SiS Grapic Card (Nightshade)
  Re: complaints (Nick)
  Re: Newbie Question: Redirection to a File (David Rysdam)
  Re: Linux on Mac LC III possible? (Henry Garcia)

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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Script help
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:13:40 -0500

Maik unruh wrote:
> 
> Ihad the same problem some time ago. I dont know anymore how i fixed it,
> but just give it a try:
> 
> cd /path/to
> for i in *
> do
>   rpm --rebuild $i
> done
> cd /
> 
> CU
> Maik
> 

That didn't work. That was basically the same thing I was doing except
for breaking it into multiple lines. It still stops after the first rpm
is compiled.

Thanks for the reply.
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From: Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:26:24 -0400

This is what happens when i try to ftp my machine :
---
ftp habriel.eng.wayne.edu
Connected to habriel.eng.wayne.edu FTP server (Version
6.2/OpenBSD/Linux-0.11) ready
Name(habreil.eng.wayne.edu:asu1):amit
331 password:
530 Login incorrect.
login failed
---
It seems that ftp server is running and the setting for ftp in "inetd.conf"
is OK. Do I need to set some permission for ftp users, or there is something
else that i am missing.

-Anna



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Anna,
>
> Firstly have a look at "/etc/inetd.conf" and look for a line that
> starts with "ftp" - should be near the top.  If it has "#" at the
> beginning of it, ftp wont be possible INTO your machine.
>
> Open you favourite text editor (eg "pico /etc/inetd.conf") as root and
> uncomment the ftp line - remove the "#".  Then
> type "/etc/rc.d/init.d/inetd restart" as root without the "" and test :-
> )
>
> If that doesn't fix it - read the net3-howto (large but lots of good
> info) or post what error messages you get on the users' side and
> anything that looks significant in the "/var/tmp/messages" file.
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
>
>   Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> > Users ( I created ) cannot "ftp" to my machine wheras using this
> machine
> > I can "ftp" to other sites. What settings are required so that others
> > can "ftp" to my machine.
> >
> > -Anna
> >
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


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From: Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:26:54 -0400


This is what happens when i try to ftp my machine :
---
ftp habriel.eng.wayne.edu
Connected to habriel.eng.wayne.edu FTP server (Version
6.2/OpenBSD/Linux-0.11) ready
Name(habreil.eng.wayne.edu:asu1):amit
331 password:
530 Login incorrect.
login failed
---
It seems that ftp server is running and the setting for ftp in "inetd.conf"
is OK. Do I need to set some permission for ftp users, or there is something
else that i am missing.

-Anna

Rasputin wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <Anna> wrote:
> >Hi
> >Users ( I created ) cannot "ftp" to my machine wheras using this machine
> >I can "ftp" to other sites. What settings are required so that others
> >can "ftp" to my machine.
> >
> >-Anna
>
> Hi Anna
>
> sounds like you have an FTP client installed, but no ftp server.
>
> There'll be one on the CD; usually wu-ftpd -
> if this distro is older than a month or
> so, get a fresh RPM from their homepage
> (search at freshmeat.net for wu-ftpd)
>
> wu-ftpd has a few 'issues' with security.
>
> --
>
> Rasputin.
> Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.


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From: Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:28:46 -0400

Hi , My machine is running SUSE 6.3 kernel version is 2.2.14
This is what happens when i try to ftp my machine :
---
ftp habriel.eng.wayne.edu
Connected to habriel.eng.wayne.edu FTP server (Version 6.2/OpenBSD/Linux-0.11)
ready
Name(habreil.eng.wayne.edu:asu1):amit
331 password:
530 Login incorrect.
login failed
---
It seems that ftp server is running and the setting for ftp in "inetd.conf"
is OK. Do I need to set some permission for ftp users, or there is something
else that i am missing.

-Anna

Akira Yamanita wrote:

> Anna wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > Users ( I created ) cannot "ftp" to my machine wheras using this machine
> > I can "ftp" to other sites. What settings are required so that others
> > can "ftp" to my machine.
> >
> > -Anna
>
> What distribution? What version? What happens when you try to
> telnet in? Do you get connection refused? Connection closed by
> foreign host? No response?
>
> Depending on the distribution (and/or installation method), you
> may not have the ftp daemon installed.


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From: Eiichi NISHINA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: The module for NIC can't be used after the restruction of kernel.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:10:09 +0900

I have a problem after the restruction of kernel.
I can use the module for network card when I use boot floppy disk,
but can't use it when I start with the LILO boot, and
the error messages is displayed as follows:

/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
skb_over_panic_R30a5b65c
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
__kfree_skb_Rb6af35e9
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
init_etherdev_Rfcc76090
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
eth_copy_and_sum_R4b0e72f0
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
eth_type_trans_R2a2d4e5c
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
alloc_skb_Rb4a8ccd2
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
unregister_netdev_Re0b06163
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
netif_rx_R1da5b113

What I did when the restruction of the kernel are as follows:

/cd usr/src/linux
make xconfig
make dep
make clean
make
make mrproper

make modules
make modules_install
depmod -a

And I made a boot disk with the command "make bzdisk"

And I confirmed boot was successfully done,
 and the usage of module "via-rhine.o" for the network card.

And then, I installed kernel on the LILO using the command "make bzlilo"

The boot is successfully done through LILO,
but I can't use the module "via-rhine.o" even using the command as
follows:

cd /lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net
modprobe via-rhine

and the error message as I wrote above is displayed.
If we confirm it by "lsmod",  the module is not used.

Even this mail can be sent using boot floppy disk.
Thanks for helps.

With Best Regards
========
Eiichi NISHINA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Smitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:44:01 -0400

brian moore wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:20:16 -0700,
>  blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > brian moore wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:47:24 -0700,
> > >  blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Red Hat is a sinking ship?
> > > >
> > > > Red Hat's CFO is abandoning ship.
> > >
> > > Or he got a better offer.  Or he likes California more than North
> > > Carolina.. or lots of things.
> > >
> > > > http://www.it-director.com/00-07-28-3.html
> > >
> > > Gads, you get business analysis from an IT trade rag?  That's akin to
> > > using Penthouse as a dating guide.
> > >
> > No.  Wall Street told me RH is a sinking ship.
> 
> A place?
> 
> > Have you ever wonder why Bob Young dumped almost half of his shares of
> > RH right before
> > the RH shares hit below ground zero?
> 
> Let's see, 6 months (I wonder if that's a magic number?  nah, couldn't
> be... that would be too obvious) to the day after the IPO, Mr Young
> cashed in some of his shares.  Nowhere near half of them, though.  God
> forbid he should benefit from his business.
> 
> I don't see any other notices of Mr Young selling his shares.  I do
> see that he gave 140k shares to someone as a gift on April 21, 2000.
> (Pretty nice gift, eh?)
> 
> As for "below ground zero", they're trading at above what they IPO'd
> for.  (Not what speculators drove the price to, but what they and their
> underwriters determined was a fair price for equity.)
> 
> Considering that Microsoft is at about 60% or so of what they were at a
> year ago, I'd say that's pretty good.
> 
> > And why Bill Gates (yes, the Microsoft's CEO Gates.) filed at the FTC to
> > dump almost $500million worth of RH shares shartly after Bob Young
> > dumped his?
> >
> > Why Bill Gates owns so much of RH? How much more RH shares Gates still
> > owns?
> 
> Because Gates has a lot of money and invests it in a lot of things?
> 
> Of course, typical of your nonsense, Gates didn't sell $500M worth of RH
> stock.  He doesn't own that much.  He sold $450k worth of stock.
> Cascade Investment, LLC owns roughly 4 million shares of RH stock.  At
> $18/share, that's, what, $72M total?  RedHat has roughly 157M shares of
> stock outstanding.  So Cascade had as much as, what, 2.5% of it?
> 
> Last I checked, owning stock in a company didn't give you control of
> their day to day operations, especially when it's only 2.5%.
> 
> > > Get a clue.
> > >
> > Vi messed up your head!?
> 
> Nope.  Has trying to use Netscape for usenet messed up yours?
> 
> > I read WSJ, Barrons and Forbe for financial news.
> 
> Uh-huh.  But you didn't choose to look this up in any of them?
> 
> When you are as -wrong- as you are about the "$500million worth of RH
> shares" that Gates supposedly sold, why would anyone trust your other
> "facts"?  Being off by a factor of 1000 is a sign you should actually
> -read- the journals you claim to read.
> 
> Look, if you don't like RedHat (I don't), at least use -valid- reasons
> to criticize them.  Don't just make up bullshit: it makes you look
> stupid.  Complain about their lack of quality review, complain about
> the chaos that contrib RPMs create, complain about their bizarre ideas
> of how the file heirarchy works.  But as long as you continue to post
> blatant lies, you will continue to come across as a raving lunatic.
> 
> --
> Brian Moore                  
Bill Gatesborg owns just under 241,000 shares of RedHat, Inc.  That is
definitely not enough to control the company.  I use RedHat and I think
it is o.k.  I am open to another distrib-any suggestions?  Please also
explain why.
Smitty

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Unresolved Symbols (was: simple question)
Date: 29 Jul 2000 19:46:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:04:27 GMT, shawn wrote:
>what are unresolved symbols? depmod is giving me the error message upon
>startup, "depmod: ...module directory : module name - unresolved symbol"
>, or something similar... i have no idea what an unresolved symbol is,

"Unresolved symbols in FOO" means that module FOO is A) not compiled
correctly or B) depends on another module or piece of kernel
functionality that is not present.  For example, if you have SCSI
emulation for IDE devices compiled as a module, and you don't have SCSI
support compiled into the kernel or available as a module, there will be
unresolved symbols in ide-scsi.o.  Also, if you have a module compiled
against 2.2.15 sitting in the /lib/modules/2.2.14/ directory, you will
get unresolved symbols.

Unresolved symbols tend to occur when people compile a kernel for the
first time on a standard distribution.  People turn off the things they
don't need (like ISDN support, Video4Linux support, etc.) but the
modules for ISDN support and Video4Linux are still hanging around in
/lib/modules/$KERNELVERSION/ , and since the kernel contains no "hooks"
for these things, you get unresolved symbols upon bootup.  One thing I
often do is "rm -rf /lib/modules/$KERNELVERSION" immediately before
doing "make modules_install".  Be careful, though....

-- 
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http://www.brainbench.com     /    than freedom.
=============================/              ==Charles Peguy

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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Redirection to a File
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:40:49 -0500

Cedric Silvester wrote:
> 
> I have what is likely to be a very simple problem to the *nix gurus
> here, but I can't figure it out.
> 
> I am using Redhat 6.0 as a firewall/NAT for a medium sized network.
> Right now DNS lookups are done by using my ISPs DNSes; I'm not running
> DNS on the firewall box.  To keep an eye on the DNS traffic, I do this
> (at a bash prompt):
> 
>         tcpdump -t -i ppp0 | grep "A?"
> 
> This results in the following (IPs obviously faked here) scrolling up my
> screen:
> 
> 1.2.3.4.63084 > 4.3.2.1.domain: 1+ A? www.cnn.com. (36)
> 1.2.3.4.63086 > 4.3.2.1.domain: 1+ A? www.microsoft.com. (35)
> 
> This is fine, but I'd like to log these.  So I try:
> 
>         tcpdump -t -i ppp0 | grep "A?" > /var/log/dns.lookups
> 
> figuring the output of 'grep' will be put into the specified file.  But
> nothing is ever put in the file.
> 
> I've also tried adding an "&" at the end to put this in the background:
> 
>         tcpdump -t -i ppp0 | grep "A?" > /var/log/dns.lookups &
> 
> It goes into the background, but again, nothing is ever logged.
> 
> Obviously I'm missing something simply with how redirection works in
> Linux.  I thought it was more or less like MS-DOS (actually, I _know_
> redirection works much better in Linux).
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.

Maybe something like this.

tcpdump -t -i ppp0 | tee -a /var/log/dns.lookups.log

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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix..solaris
Subject: Re: linux version of pcview
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:06:11 -0700

Stephen Hui wrote:
> 
> Sun's StarOffice will read Office97 documents--Word97, Excel97.  I
> haven't tried it with Access or Powerpoint files, but Word and Excel do
> work, although sometimes you lose a little bit of formatting.

Most ppt slides come in OK, a few don't.  5.2 accepts quite
a few that 5.1 didn't.

> Yao Wang wrote:
> >
> > hi, all,
> >
> > has anyone heard of any linux application that can view and print
> > MS-OFFICE  files (doc, ppt, bmp ,etc.), something resembles sun's
> > pcview?

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From: "Clon^Hanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.2600
Subject: Re: mail server routing info
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:13:36 GMT

use traceroute to to trace the servername or ip address. type tracert
servername.com in the command promt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i en meddelelse
news:8lv0vs$i1n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hi,
>    I have received a mail from a site can I find out from which
> servers/routers it has passed through. I have all the header info.
>
> Thanks
> Sandy
>
>
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> Before you buy.



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From: Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: A troubling problem with GNOME and UID.
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:15:11 -0400

Hi
    I am a rookie root on a Red Hat 6.2 system.
    I am facing a strange problem with a particular user on my system.
Let us call him bob. His UID before all the trouble started, was 500.
However, to ensure access to an NFS filesystem, I changed his UID to
that on the other server (38078).
    Now he comes and tells me that he cannot start his GUI (GNOME) ! I
asked him to login and what follows is an eyewitness account :
1. The password was accepted.
2. The Enlightenment WM "seemed" to start.
3. The file manager which usually launches upon login into GNOME did not

start and it was only by using the middle button on the mouse was I able

to bring up a menu and from that, an xterm. There was a core file (you
guessed it) generated. And none of the menus or the gnome panel turned
up (just an
irritating blank blue screen).

Now since he did not have anything critical in his area, I kill -9 'ed
my way out and attempted to delete his login using linuxconf. But this
did not work. Ultimately, I had to manually delete the line in
/etc/passwd.

Then I created a new account for him with the UID set to 38078 and asked

him to login again. Hey presto, the same sequence of events ensued.

I am at my wits end. He is able to login using KDE and work, but this is

troubling (not to mention humiliating) to me.

Thanks in advance,

Madhusudan Singh.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark S. Bilk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Linus Torvalds on CNN Today (maybe)
Date: 29 Jul 2000 21:10:49 GMT

The show "Movers" -- 5:30-6:00PM Pacific time, 8:30-9:00PM 
Eastern, tonight -- Sat. 7/29, on CNN.  I just caught the 
end of the earlier broadcast, and it's scheduled to repeat
at these times.



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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Domingo =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez?= 
Subject: Re: non-English letters in xterm
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:16:15 GMT

Hi Stefano Ghirlanda:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nicolas LS) writes:
> 
> > Le 24 Jul 2000 16:53:52 +0200, Stefano Ghirlanda a ecrit :
> > >> Peut etre faut-il refaire la map du clavier ?
> > >Non credo, visto che molte applicazioni funzionano, tipo lyx ed emacs
> >
> > Sorry for the french ... but you understood ...
> 
> Speakers of latin-derived languages should learn to understand other
> latin-derived languages at school! It's stupid that french, spanish
> and italian people talk to each other in English!
> 
> Perhaps someone sitting in the European parliament reads these
> newsgroups?
> 
> Stefano
The best would be that everyone could speak any other language on the world
to communicate with each other. I do like my native language (Spanish), but
IMHO one of the best things that can happen to the world is to have only one
language for all. With different languages people often misunderstand each
other, leading to confusion and, sometimes, discussions. Moreover, having
different languages makes people think there are real differences, when in
the important things we are (should be) equal.

Nowadays, the Internet has succeed beacuse there is a standard "language",
IP. Maybe it is not the best possible one, but is the one everyone agreed to
talk. So we can communicate directly and clearly, no translations and no
misunderstandings (except for the Microsoft variants :-)).

Don't know if I've explained myself very well, but this is the problem I was
trying to show. If speaking in Spanish I'm sure I would have expressed
better, but the only way for us to communicate is to agree on a common
language. Currently, in this group the language used is English. I'd prefer
Spanish, you French and some others Chinese, but there must be an agreement.
The USA started all of this, so english is the natural choice. Will be the
same in the future ?. Don't know, but it MUST arrive the time where only one
language exists in the world.

Jose Luis Domingo

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From: Nightshade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with the SiS Grapic Card
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:30:05 GMT

Hi'a.

I have been having troble trying to install my grapic card for linux
mandrake 6.5.

Even thought it is in the list, it dosen't seem to be recanising it.

Its like just lots of blakc boxes in sted of the text and all the images 
are
just black.

The name of the grapic card is SiS 6326 and the company is SiS.
I have not used any clock setings on the grapic card instlasion on linux.
Could this help?? And if so what seting should I use.
This is my first time that I have used linux, so can u please make it 
sound as simple as posible please.

Can any boady help please.

Thanks.

Nightshade


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From: Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: complaints
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:30:06 GMT

I know how you feel.  But actually it IS the monopolizing microsoft's 
fault.  I own an HP Pavilion 4463.  Totoal incompatible with Linux.  
Nothing but winhardware.  The problem is that Micro$oft is making deals 
with all these companies to use their OS and to develop hardware using the 
Windows OS "specifically".

But I'm sure there's hope on the horizon.  Just keep your eyes out for 
drivers.  Now Linux won't be as easy as Windoze, but it's a learning 
experience.  As found, I've found some "beta" drivers for my Rockwell 
modem.

If you are looking for ease of installation then there is a software called 
WinLinux.  It installs just like a regular appication and you don't have to 
partition your hard drive.

As you I am completely new to Linux.  But what keeps me going to learn all 
I can is the fact of what yuo said about M$ monopolizing the industry.  The 
goal to somehow get these winsystems to work with Linux.

oneal nichols wrote:
> 
> I was interested enough to install redhat 6.0 on my computer.  I had
> difficulty, but it's now in there along with Win 98. I had trouble with
> setting up resolution, now after long time, got it working. Now I find
> that modem won't work if it's PCI or winmodem (according to
> documentation).  My printer won't work either. 
> I installed linux to learn the system but have spent all my time just
> trying to get all components to work (which don't).  Even if Win 98 is
> unfair monopoly, it works with comparatively little fuss. 
> I'm disillusioned with Linux.  I'll leave it on my system (probably
> difficult to even uninstall it) and tinker with it in spare time but it
> just ain't what it's cracked up to be!
> Oneal


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From: David Rysdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Redirection to a File
Date: 29 Jul 2000 13:31:55 -0400

Cedric Silvester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This is fine, but I'd like to log these.  So I try:
> 
>       tcpdump -t -i ppp0 | grep "A?" > /var/log/dns.lookups
> 
> figuring the output of 'grep' will be put into the specified file.  But
> nothing is ever put in the file.

Well, this should work.  On the off chance that it's actually printing
to standard error instead of standard out, try this:

tcpdump -t -i ppp0 | grep "A?" > /var/log/dns.lookups 2>&1

This directs stderr AND stdout to the file.

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From: Henry Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Linux on Mac LC III possible?
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:07:29 -0400

Jeff Pierce wrote:

> I was recently given a Mac LC III with a CRT< 500 meg hard drive,
> external CD and eerything else. Is there a Linux distro for it??
>
> I would like to use it as a networking gateway/Ip masqurade syestem if
> possible. If not I plan to either try to sell it at a hamfest, and
> failing at that, donate it to a local Community College.
>
> P.S. I a not a Mac person...
>
> Please reply via Email also...
>
> --
> Jeff Pierce
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://pages.preferred.com/~piercej
>
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No built in FPU with the LCIII. Get an FPU or sell it. Though FPU
emulation is written into the Slink and the Potato kernel of Debian,
neither system will boot Linux without the FPU. Be nice if FPU emulation
would work!


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