Linux-Misc Digest #330, Volume #25                Thu, 3 Aug 00 15:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Johan Kullstam)
  Motorola PowerStack with SCSI, Booting problem (Sohail Rana)
  Re: rsh and password ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Upgrade to Mandrake7.1 smoothly? (Andrew Purugganan)
  chinese pinyin no-tone entry method in linux? ("Dan Jacobson")
  help on RAID (Andrew Bacchi)
  correction (Andrew Bacchi)
  Re: rsh and password (brian moore)
  Real Audio on Linux (Pjtg0707)
  FTP Install fails due to ramdisk error, help... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
  XVidTune. (N/A)
  gzip / zip / compress : 2 gig limit? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  DMA buffers (JCA)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Phillip Lord)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
  Why do I have to put "./" in front of "apachectl"? ("Chris Schachte")
  Re: Inicio de Linux (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Domingo =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez?=)
  Re: MP3's skip : How I solved it (moonie;))

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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 03 Aug 2000 13:06:54 -0400

Bernd Paysan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> We are now in a society that allows proprietary software.

i would not use the word "allow".  the united states (and other)
government *actively* *enforces* copyrights.  it's not a question of
letting, say, microsoft keep its software to itself.  this is police
breaking down your door and rummaging through your stuff and
potentially depriving you of your freedom in case they find you in
violation of copyright.

copyright and patents are examples of mercantilism -- trade through
government sanctioned *and enforced* monopoly.

where government use or threat of force in maintaining this monopoly
is removed (e.g., middle and far east), copying is wide-spread.

> For our all
> freedom, this is no good. The FSF wants to get to a more free society,
> where there is no proprietary software anymore. They do so by using
> copyright to protect their software from being "enslaved" again. Some of
> the BSD whiners tell us that making derivatives proprietary isn't
> "enslaving" the original software, which is still free. This is like
> saying (in the south states, 150 years ago): "If you give your niggers
> (TIC!) freedom, ok, but if they can't sell their childs as slaves, they
> aren't really free".

nice analogy.  thanks.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr

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From: Sohail Rana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Motorola PowerStack with SCSI, Booting problem
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:30:06 +0100

Hi
I have a Motorola PowerStackII and wanted to install Linux.
Tried to install suse 6.4, but their boot image does not recognize my
scsi drive. So I have used LinuxPPC boot loader. After that I have
manage to install suse6.4

But now the same problem with booting. Suse boot loader does not work
and LinuxPPC boot loader works but has a different version number so it
does not load the modules. Hence the ethernet card does not work.

I have tried to recompile suse but with no luck. Also tried yellowdog
distribution. Any one has any idea? Please let me know.
Regards
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: rsh and password
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:32:53 GMT

On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:00:43 -0500, "Andrew N. McGuire "
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 3 Aug 2000, brian moore quoth:
>
>$$ On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 16:01:23 GMT, 
>$$  Peter Nobels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>$$ > Hi,
>$$ > 
>$$ > does rsh send a password over the network?
>$$ 
>$$ In the clear?
>$$ 
>$$ Run tcpdump or some other sniffer and watch.  (Alas, I can't, since it
>$$ seems rsh exploded or something here, leaving just a pile of 1's and 0's
>$$ behind... hint: don't use rsh.)
>
>To expound on that, use ssh, preferably, openssh.  The syntax is the
>same as it is for rsh, but everything is encrypted.  That last statement
>is probably over-simplified, but it should suffice. :-)

I tried that but are having difficulties with ssh -l root ...  The
goal is to sync passwd and shadow files of two ftp-servers ...  

If i open up pts0 for root-access, also telnet can have root-access...

>
>anm
>-- 
>/*------------------------------------------------------------------------.
>| Andrew N. McGuire                                                       |
>| [EMAIL PROTECTED]                                               |
>| perl -le'print map?"(.*)"?&&($_=$1)&&s](\w+)]\u$1]g&&$_=>`perldoc -qj`' |
>`------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
>


Peter Nobels, Lernout & Hauspie.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Upgrade to Mandrake7.1 smoothly?
Date: 3 Aug 2000 17:30:42 GMT

I don't want to lose my /usr and everything below it, would the upgrade 
replace my /etc and /usr? Have you ever done an upgrade? Any horror 
stories? My box has Mandrake 6.0 but has kernel 2.2-13mdk

--
jazz 
Registered linux user no. 164098  +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??

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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.chinese.computing,chinese.comp.software,sci.lang,tw.bbs.comp.chinese,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: chinese pinyin no-tone entry method in linux?
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:08:57 +0800

Hello.  I'm planning to make the jump from Micro$oft to Linux, but am concerned
that all the Chinese pinyin entry methods for linux require that one enter the
tones... Is there a entry method where the tones are optional as in M$'s Xin1
Zhu4Yin1 Shu1ru4fa3 [pinyin mode=on], which I'm used to.  [Also we non-native
speakers don't always know the tone for sure.] [I'm reading this in sci.lang][I
use big5 chars.]
--
www.geocities.com/jidanni  ... fix e-mail address to reply; ???
Tel:+886-4-5854780; starting in year 2001: +886-4-25854780



"Laurent Neyret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ?????
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >Georges Ko suggests OpenChinese,
> >http://www.iis.sinica.edu.tw/LPDA/OpenChinese/  (...)
>
> >He adds that he made '.tit' files for Leim (Emacs) -for Big5 and GB-
> >using the OpenChinese input mode : d, f, j and k for tones 1 to 4.
>
> [en]  Or {maybe?] d, f, j = 2, 3, 4 and k = (?) -I saw a dot in
> George Ko's post (on [nzn.fr.langue.chinois]); OpenChinese is not
> (I think) a software converting Big5 --> UTF-8, but it may help as for
> question #2,
> >>> 2. (...) Is there a way to use pinyin to put in traditional Chinese?




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From: Andrew Bacchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help on RAID
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:16:11 -0400

Does anyone know if the kernel 2.2.24-5.0 for RH Linux v6.2 supports
RAID 1?  Does the kernel need to be rebuilt with this raid level or is
it all set?  Thanks in advance.


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From: Andrew Bacchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: correction
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:17:20 -0400

I mean the 2.2.14-5.0 kernel, sorry.

Andrew Bacchi wrote:

> Does anyone know if the kernel 2.2.24-5.0 for RH Linux v6.2 supports
> RAID 1?  Does the kernel need to be rebuilt with this raid level or is
> it all set?  Thanks in advance.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: rsh and password
Date: 3 Aug 2000 18:11:22 GMT

On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:32:53 GMT, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:00:43 -0500, "Andrew N. McGuire "
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >On 3 Aug 2000, brian moore quoth:
> >
> >$$ On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 16:01:23 GMT, 
> >$$  Peter Nobels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >$$ > Hi,
> >$$ > 
> >$$ > does rsh send a password over the network?
> >$$ 
> >$$ In the clear?
> >$$ 
> >$$ Run tcpdump or some other sniffer and watch.  (Alas, I can't, since it
> >$$ seems rsh exploded or something here, leaving just a pile of 1's and 0's
> >$$ behind... hint: don't use rsh.)
> >
> >To expound on that, use ssh, preferably, openssh.  The syntax is the
> >same as it is for rsh, but everything is encrypted.  That last statement
> >is probably over-simplified, but it should suffice. :-)
> 
> I tried that but are having difficulties with ssh -l root ...  The
> goal is to sync passwd and shadow files of two ftp-servers ...  
> 
> If i open up pts0 for root-access, also telnet can have root-access...

Look at your sshd config (should be in /etc/ssh/sshd_config):

PermitRootLogin yes

Use rsync over ssh, and life is peachy.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pjtg0707)
Subject: Real Audio on Linux
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:09:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am wondering if anyone has gotten real audio to work on linux without the 
true color yet? Is there a linux streaming audio player besides real audio 
that are less stringent on the video requirements?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTP Install fails due to ramdisk error, help...
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:07:16 GMT

Here is the error message I am getting when trying to FTP install
redhat linux 6.2, using the bootnet.img on the 6.2 distribution.

Unable to retrive the second stage
ramdisk: Bad server response

Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? Please help

I have tried various ftp sites and I keep getting this error, thanks...


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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:36:26 GMT

Phillip Lord writes:
> ...rather than in capitalist state where the ruling class gain the
> benefit from the fruits of their employees work.

This of course is not capitalism but plutocracy.

> Indeed Marx's definition...

He mentioned communism, not Marxism (I favor neither, but communism at
least makes sense).
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XVidTune.
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:30:05 GMT

my display is too big and i think running 'xvidtune' might help this 
except for the fact i dont know how? do i have to install it and if not 
how do i run it? (corel linux delux)

P.S. i know some of you may have noticed i have posted like 1,000 times on 
matters like this and you think im like a super-newbie but you have to 
understand that for some reason my computer is so poor in detecting 
configurations that i have basically had to rewrite the linux program just 
to see a screen......anyway any help can be nice. thanks.

--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: gzip / zip / compress : 2 gig limit?
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:33:43 GMT

Hi all,

I have a Linux fileserver for my company of ~60 people.  I have about
40 gig of data uncompressed.  I back up to tape, but I'd also like to
be able to tar it (with compression, like tar -cvzf), or zip it, or
something.  Unfortunately all methods die at the 2 gig limit mark.  I
assume this is a limitation of the compression program rather than the
ext2 filesystem isn't it?

I read about somebody compiling gzip to support larger files, but don't
have a clue where to start.  Can anybody help me create compressed
files greater than 2 gig?

Aaron


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From: JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DMA buffers
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:16:16 -0700


    Is there a way to manipulate the sizes and number of DMA buffers?
I've got an application that every so often fails because it can't
allocate
a DMA buffer, and this is beginning to piss me off.

    Please don't suggest for me to kill any other processes I might have
-
I need the system exactly as it is right now.





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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 03 Aug 2000 19:47:11 +0100


>>>>> "John" == John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  John> Phillip Lord writes:
  >> ...rather than in capitalist state where the ruling class gain
  >> the benefit from the fruits of their employees work.

  John> This of course is not capitalism but plutocracy.
        
        And the difference being...?

  >> Indeed Marx's definition...

  John> He mentioned communism, not Marxism (I favor neither, but
  John> communism at least makes sense).

        I would say that most definitions of "communism" would
includes Marxism. Either way is perfectly reasonable to use Marx's
definitions as a base line, for the simple reason that his ideas are
explicitly stated where as communism with a small "c" does not. 

        Or are you talking about communalism which is a different
things entirely?

        Phil

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:28:17 GMT

Bernd Paysan writes:
> In fact, anarchy often means the contrary of freedom. 

No, but it is frequently misunderstood (sometimes deliberately) as meaning
that.

> You may do what you want, but in fact, you are at war with your
> neighbours (or some boons who want to make the best out of this "freedom"
> by enslaving poor suckers that can't defend themselves).

Anarchy seems to be impossible: some bastard will always jump up and crown
himself king.  The results when several try to do so at once and fight it
out is not anarchy: it's polyarchy.

> And being at war isn't exactly "freedom".

And it isn't even approximately anarchy.

> Drugs do impact others.

Then so does everything anyone does.  Arguments for drug control are
arguments for complete government control of every detail of our lives.

> The FSF wants to get to a more free society, where there is no
> proprietary software anymore.

An admirable goal, and one which I support.

> This is like saying (in the south states, 150 years ago): "If you give
> your niggers...

Nothing about software licensing or copyright is in any way analogous to
slavery.  This just flame bait.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: "Chris Schachte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Why do I have to put "./" in front of "apachectl"?
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:49:28 -0400

Sorry this is such a stupid question...

I had an older vesion of Apache installed automatically by the setup utility
of Linux-Mandrake 7.0.  When I wanted to use Apache, I decided to go ahead
and update my Apache to 1.3.12.

So I went into kpackage and uninstalled the version that was there.  Then I
went to an apache.org mirror and downloaded apache_1.3.12.tar.gz, expanded
it, and ran ./configure, make, and make install.

According to the feedback, all seemed to go well and I could see the files
in all the places I had been lead to expect them.  However, if I typed
/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start, bash reported that there is no such
file or directory.  After being confused for a while, I figured that
apachectl was a script like configure and thus needed the ./ in front of it.

My question is, what is the meaning of the "./"?  Is it simply an indicator
to unix that the filename that follows is a script?  In the previous install
of Apache, the ./ was uneccessary, and the apachectl worked even if the
working directory was incorrect or the path was omitted.  Is this simply
because the package installation of Apache had set it up that way?  If so,
how was it done?

Thanks for reading; sorry these are such basic questions, but as you can see
I really don't know what I am doing with Linux, but I am trying to learn.

Chris



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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Domingo =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez?= 
Subject: Re: Inicio de Linux
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 19:00:28 GMT

Hola Miguel Martínez:
> 
> vicent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió en el mensaje de noticias
> F4gi5.284$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Mi problema es el siguiente:
> >
> > ¿Como puedo configurar mi SUse para que directamente mepida el login en
> modo
> > comando y
> > no en modo grafico?
> >
> > Gracias por adelantado.
> >
> >
> Vete a /etc/rc.d/  Ahí mira en rc.local y demás archivos (son los de
> inicialización del sistema). En alguno de ellos debe haber una línea que
> ejecute "xdm" o "gdm" o algo parecido (ese es el "arranque gráfico").
> Quítalo (o ponle una # delante) y ya está. Espero que te sirva (lo de
> /etc/rc.d/ es para RedHat, así que me imagino que en Suse será igual).

Recordad que este es un grupo de Linux en inglés, y en este idioma
deberíamos intervenir en él (aunque a veces no ocurre así). Si no nos
sentimos cómodos escribiendo en inglés podemos acudir a los grupos en
castellano, es.comp.os.linux.*

Remember that this is a linux newsgroup where english is the "official"
language, and we should write in that language (although sometimes this
doesn't happen). If we are unconfortable writing in english, we can go to
the spanish-speaking linux newsgroups, es.comp.os.linux.*.

José Luis Domingo López

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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: MP3's skip : How I solved it
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 15:04:48 -0400

On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, IvanWoehr wrote:
>Stewart Honsberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >Not really.  If you're getting 3MB/sec when you should be getting
>> >19MB/sec and want to get 19MB/sec, you do have to make a change or
>> >you'll continue to get 3MB/sec.
>>
>> What drive capability did you say you were using? After your astronomical
>> posted figures, I thought you were talking about cached reads. Now it
>> appears as if you're talking about uncached data. In order to obtain 19
>> MB/sec, you'd require Ultra-2-160 SCSI; something signifigantly more
>> expensive than any ATA equipment I've ever priced.
>>
>> Ultra ATA66 should expect about 8.25MB/sec, while ULTRA ATA33 should
>> expect about 4.125MB/sec.
>
>Actually... Im getting around 28MB/s with -t and 108MB/s with -T Celeron
>500/Intel 810e with ATA66 7200 RPM drive. It's some sort of Maxtor, I forget
>which.
>Mind you, these are specs that hdparm provides. Who knows what other
>benchmark utils would quote.
>
>[root@www /etc]# hdparm -t /dev/hda
>
>/dev/hda:
> Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  2.21 seconds = 28.96 MB/sec
>
>[root@www /etc]# hdparm -T /dev/hda
>
>/dev/hda:
> Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  1.19 seconds =107.56 MB/sec
>
>[root@www /etc]# hdparm -i /dev/hda
>
>/dev/hda:
>
> Model=Maxtor 52049U4, FwRev=DA620XS0, SerialNo=K40F714C
> Config={ Fixed }
> RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=57
> BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=2048kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
> CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=40020624
> IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
> PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
> DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 *udma4
>
>
>And it would be nice if one of you just halted the conversation from here
>(IE just dont reply next time). It has ceased to provide any useful
>information to the group, other than some sort of sick entertainment.:)

I agree, take it out back.

I also agree that your idea of sustained transfer rates for UDMA IDE drives is
low.  My system gets about 65mb/s for burst (-T) and one drive gets 19.5mb/s
sustained (-t) the other gets 24mb/s.  Together my software RAID 0 Stripped get
about 39mb/s sustained measured with bonnie.  I use a FIC 503a (ATA/66)
K6-III/450, the new 2.4.0-test5 kernel sets up the chipset perfectly.  DMA also
worked fine with 2.2.14.
--
moonie ;)

Registered Linux User #175104

Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers 
RAID 0 Stripped
Speed Demons-R-Us!


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