On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 15:45, CF wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 13:53, Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> > Basically you've got the choice of two camps, you can go the KDE way or
> > the Gnome2 way.
> 
> Rubbish - I'm using gnome apps and kde apps and my window manager
> happens to be twm, with wdm as a login manager.
> 
> Linux is not "choose KDE or gnome and you're stuck with it for ever"
> like some people insist on thinking.

Sorry if my statement came off a bit harsh, but what we're talking about
in this context is school kids and teachers, who you want to give a
consistent interface and set of applications to. 

Stuff that seems easy to you, and changing between different sets of
applications and slightly different usability goals just confuses that
matter further for the poor person who just wants the basics.

These are users who ARENT ALLOWED to configure their desktop the way
they want it, they _should_ be given a fixed standard. Otherwise support
hassles get out of control. 

By saying you choose Gnome, or KDE, I mean exactally that. Make a choice
for the school, and stick with it. Pick a set of applications for the
standard user and setup the desktop and shortcuts so they're obvious.
Gnome and nautilus? Or KDE and Konquoror? If a the school does end up
going down the linux road, the teachers are going to print out handouts
eventually in linux. Probably with screenshots, keep it simple, dont
confuse the matter with 7 different word processors in the 'Office
Applications' menu. 

Sure you may mix and match applications, I had an issue the other day
where I was using a KDE app and clicked on a weblink. It opened up in
Konqueror, I've not used konqueror in years, I use galeon, I have
$BROWSER set to /usr/bin/galeon, galeon selected as the default gnome
browser, yet some gnome apps still open things in mozilla. KDE apps
using konqueror. This is not a problem for me, but I'll bet my kernel
that its DAMN confusing for someone who's just moved over from windows
to have three different browsers up.

As much as I agree, linux is plenty of mix and match, there is still a
long way to go before we have inter application drag and drop working
seamlessly between kde, gnome and everything else. Before we get a
common clipboard. Before we get to a instinctive level of usability.

Regards,
Sascha
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Sascha Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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