Previously, Joel Hammer chose to write:
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 12:28:14PM -0400, Tim Wunder wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > My sons' school Fathers' Club has a web site that I can't seem to be able
> > to navigate with any of the browsers I've used under linux. Actually, the
> > only thing that seems to work is MSIE under Winders. On the off chance
> > that I have some sort of config issue, can any of you folks check out
> > www.stursula.org and see if you can get the site to come up properly with
> > Konqui, Mozilla or Netscape? If you can get it to work, I'll back off on
> > my my campaign against the web designer to fix the freakin' thing.
> > Thanks,
> > Tim
>
> Opera and Netscape 6.1 work only partially.
> Obviously, you have a MS web this designer. This site is WAY too cute.
> Likely, it is full of java script commands which work only with explorer.
> Tell your web designer that the media is NOT the message.
> Joel
>

Unfortunately, you get what you pay for. Typically, the man who volunteers 
gets the job. As I am not a web designer, I'm reduced to bitching and 
moaning. The site doesn't come up for me at all with Konqui (oops, it does 
come up, sort of... takes forever to load the javascript buttons, but only 
partially, and looks bad -- man, it's no wonder nobody visits this site). 
It's also slow to load and looks bad using Netscape 4.7x and won't load with 
Mozilla under linux 'cause Moz don't know about the JM that I've got 
installed and I haven't told it about it yet (what it don't know won't hurt 
it). Perhaps I can improve it by changing my java install. 

Caldera's Workstation 3.1 apparently uses:
[dad@ew31 dad]$ java -version
java version "1.3.0"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition, root-20Apr2001-17:16
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM, Caldera Systems, mixed mode

Perhaps a change there would do some good. Any recommendations on Java 
clients?

I reaIly wish he'd get rid of the freakin' java, though, I've complained to 
him several times. I typically don't surf with Java enabled. But... my pleas 
fall on deaf ears. The only choice I would seem to have is to volunteer to 
take over running the site. But that means learning web design and html.

Anyone care to recommend a web design tool for the neophite?

Regards, 
Tim
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