On Mon, 2001-09-17 at 18:14, Joel Hammer wrote:
> > >People almost invariably choose personal security over "freedom".
> > >Any rational person would.
> >
> > Speak for yourself. I prefer ``Live Free or Die''.
>
> I would rather show a photo id to get on a plane than be hijacked.
Of course with every political jurisdiction having its own different
looking version of photo ID, fake photo ID would have a reasonable
chance of working. Will we solve that by having the UN issue universal
photo ID?
> I would rather the state license drivers of cars so I don't get killed by an
> incompetent driver.
If only the acquisition of a drivers license did prevent incompetent
drivers.
> I would rather cameras be used to screen faces in public places than have a
> bomb go off during my third beer.
If Big Brother is watching you that closely what makes you think you
will be allowed to have 3 beers before the state takes away your drivers
license to prevent you from being incompetent behind the wheel of a car?
> I would rather be stopped and frisked for weapons than be shot by a mugger
> in New York City.
I would far rather that the cops spent their time and effort to catch
that mugger otherwise a personal weapon in my possession would do me
more good when dealing with a mugger.
> I would rather have packages inspected carefully by the postal service than
> get a letter bomb.
The Postal Service protecting you?? Inspecting to the postal types
means opening and snooping. Allegedly looking for explosives one day,
as if they knew what to look for, then asking you if you paid all the
sales taxes due on those items in the parcel the next day.
> I would rather the INS screen the border very carefully than to have known Arab
> terrorists and their associates book commercial flights and fly commercial
> jets into high rise buildings.
Actually I have to sort of agree with you here. The Border Guards of
any country really should be guarding their borders. Consistency and
efficiency in their actions is probably too much to ask for.
> There is no such thing as absolute freedom. That would be called anarchy.
> Even animals have a social order and rules.
> Joel
>
Animal social order is called animal rule or law of the jungle and you
really ought to see the blood and mess when my German Shepard tries to
change the social order over the Rottweiller.
Given a choice between being a Freeman, with all the rights AND
rsponsibilites that entails, or the option of being a Serf with no
responsiblity to look after myself, I will choose to be a Freeman. Yes,
that does entail the possibility of putting my steel up against another
mans steel in defence of country or way of life. Unfortunately too many
others today would be willing to be serfs, as long as they had their
beer and hockey.
Ralph
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