Yes, because anything that requires years of training and experience is obviously empirically ‘better’ than BSD/MacOS/Windows/Solaris.

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You can pay for rubbish or you can get it for free. You can get the source code or you might not. At 4:00 in the morning when your webserver is broken and SQL isn't being a team player, it doesn't make a lick of difference what you're using. Software just sucks.

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On Apr 26, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Xavier Naldo <[email protected]> wrote:

Right on brother!! but for the group's sake, CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??? We are LINUX, NOT winblows (ooops sorry, windows). Isnt it our goal to improve the GNU/Linux OS? That is what makes Linux so special, is that we have variety and it feeds for different strokes for different folks!! In my opinion, Linux is the people's operating system. AND IT IS MUCH BETTER THAN WINDOWS!



On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:50 AM, hard wyrd <[email protected]> wrote:


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:37 PM, ◣_◢ <[email protected]> wrote:
 RHEL is Linux. Ubuntu is Linux. So what's the difference?

Windows XP is windows, Windows Server 2k8 is windows, whats the difference? tools? yes obviously tools. Because of these tools servers are servers and other distros are others. If we can make these tools our self (As you said linux is Open) Yes we can make these tools just by spending a lot of time in this. Nothing is impossible in Linux. But yeah if you can make it then there is no difference in RHEL and ubuntu, About ubuntu lucid servers. I have personal experience that they just dont work perfect, There are much bugs to fix. thats why ubuntu is continuously launching new versions.

My premise _exactly. Which is why you think _first_ when deploying Ubuntu in an enterprise environment and assess what you need. There are niches that RHEL works perfectly well, and where Ubuntu will suffice. But that does not mean that Ubuntu is a failure. And, again, Ubuntu's main target is the desktop sector and although they are slowly crawling on the server and enterprise space, they have yet to show enterprise tools compared to RHEL and SuSE. So yes, we can't expect massive Ubuntu deployments in the enterprise just yet. But they're getting there. Again, this doesn't mean Ubuntu is a failure :)


As we know RHEL is standalone distro and ubuntu is based on Debian.
All the functionality is of Debian then? just a little more tools in ubuntu along with appearance changes? Why not to use debian then, I am talking about SUSE and RHEL because all they have is their own, They haven't copied anything from anything else, We need novell in all feilds. Even in unix and windows too (Specially in LAN IPX and other networking)


Exactly. For stability, a lot of enterprise deployments opt for Debian for stability reasons and not for bleeding edge packages. Where Fedora is to RHEL, so is Ubuntu is to Debian.


Those who are good in linux are no more on ubuntu or debian they are practicing in suse and rhel just to get some experience about these distros and get some gud job in companies.

Not true :). It depends upon the need. I'm working for an enterprise, and I use Ubuntu as my primary desktop. I have Fedora and CentOS virtual machines on remote servers. SLES on local servers. I'm using all of them simultaneously. As a consultant, it is my job to explore these distros and and provide alternatives to the client.

There are cases where you just want to use RHEL, sometimes you want to use SLES, and times you just want Debian or Ubuntu. It's up to you really :). I have different distros for no particular reason at all. I love variety. That makes me explore them as well in a production setting. :)


I am sorry for my bad english as english is not my first language, Thats why i cant speak it perfect.
I am sorry if I have offended with my posts :)


No problem. No offense taken. We are just having a healthy discussion :). We're all on the same side :).


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