You typed all that out on an ipod? Wow, you're talented. But seriously, your point is fascinating. *All* software is rubbish? Is that the intrinsic nature of software, or is it all rubbish b/c of the imperfect people who make it?
I had to laugh when I read this b/c quite a bit of my income comes from computers / technology, and yet, I pretty much hate computers. Well, not really, but you might know what I mean. ~kari On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Chris Miller <[email protected] > wrote: > Yes, because anything that requires years of training and experience is > obviously empirically ‘better’ than BSD/MacOS/Windows/Solaris. > > First rule of computing: software is rubbish. No exceptions. > > You can pay for rubbish or you can get it for free. You can get the source > code or you might not. At 4:00 in the morning when your webserver is broken > and SQL isn't being a team player, it doesn't make a lick of difference what > you're using. Software just sucks. > > Sent from my iPod > > On Apr 26, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Xavier Naldo <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Right on brother!! but for the group's sake, CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??? > We are LINUX, NOT winblows (ooops sorry, windows). Isnt it our goal to > improve the GNU/Linux OS? That is what makes Linux so special, is that we > have variety and it feeds for different strokes for different folks!! > In my opinion, Linux is the people's operating system. AND IT IS MUCH > BETTER THAN WINDOWS! > > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:50 AM, hard wyrd < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:37 PM, ◣_◢ < >> <[email protected]>[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> RHEL is Linux. Ubuntu is Linux. So what's the difference? >>> >>> Windows XP is windows, Windows Server 2k8 is windows, whats the >>> difference? >>> tools? yes obviously tools. Because of these tools servers are servers >>> and other distros are others. If we can make these tools our self (As you >>> said linux is Open) Yes we can make these tools just by spending a lot of >>> time in this. Nothing is impossible in Linux. But yeah if you can make it >>> then there is no difference in RHEL and ubuntu, About ubuntu lucid servers. >>> I have personal experience that they just dont work perfect, There are much >>> bugs to fix. thats why ubuntu is continuously launching new versions. >>> >> >> My premise _exactly. Which is why you think _first_ when deploying Ubuntu >> in an enterprise environment and assess what you need. There are niches that >> RHEL works perfectly well, and where Ubuntu will suffice. But that does not >> mean that Ubuntu is a failure. And, again, Ubuntu's main target is the >> desktop sector and although they are slowly crawling on the server and >> enterprise space, they have yet to show enterprise tools compared to RHEL >> and SuSE. So yes, we can't expect massive Ubuntu deployments in the >> enterprise just yet. But they're getting there. Again, this doesn't mean >> Ubuntu is a failure :) >> >> >>> >>> As we know RHEL is standalone distro and ubuntu is based on Debian. >>> All the functionality is of Debian then? just a little more tools in >>> ubuntu along with appearance changes? Why not to use debian then, >>> I am talking about SUSE and RHEL because all they have is their own, They >>> haven't copied anything from anything else, We need novell in all feilds. >>> Even in unix and windows too (Specially in LAN IPX and other networking) >>> >>> >> >> Exactly. For stability, a lot of enterprise deployments opt for Debian for >> stability reasons and not for bleeding edge packages. Where Fedora is to >> RHEL, so is Ubuntu is to Debian. >> >> >>> >>> Those who are good in linux are no more on ubuntu or debian they are >>> practicing in suse and rhel just to get some experience about these distros >>> and get some gud job in companies. >>> >> >> Not true :). It depends upon the need. I'm working for an enterprise, and >> I use Ubuntu as my primary desktop. I have Fedora and CentOS virtual >> machines on remote servers. SLES on local servers. I'm using all of them >> simultaneously. As a consultant, it is my job to explore these distros and >> and provide alternatives to the client. >> >> There are cases where you just want to use RHEL, sometimes you want to use >> SLES, and times you just want Debian or Ubuntu. It's up to you really :). I >> have different distros for no particular reason at all. I love variety. That >> makes me explore them as well in a production setting. :) >> >> >>> >>> I am sorry for my bad english as english is not my first language, Thats >>> why i cant speak it perfect. >>> I am sorry if I have offended with my posts :) >>> >>> >> No problem. No offense taken. 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