On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Chris Miller
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Imperfect software by imperfect people used by imperfect users, run on
> imperfect machines.
>

My sentiments as well.


> But quite seriously, after using a variety of operating systems I'm
> not so sure any OS is actually "better."  All of them perform just
> fine, and if you're trained and experienced in using a particular OS,
> you can perform essentially any task in a reasonable amount of time.
> Going from zero to webserver on Debian GNU/Linux is going to take
> about as long as it will on Mac OS X Server as it will on Windows
> Server as it will on Solaris as it will on BSD - if the person using
> it has been trained and is experienced in it.
>
>
Agree.


> Similarly, all software has its quirks and problems.  I can't use
> mpm-worker on Apache 2 because I use mod_perl, so I have to use
> mpm-prefork.  Getting Ruby on Rails working on IIS on Windows is a
> right little slice of hell from what I've heard.  Mac OS X Server uses
> Apache, so the same oddities apply there as well.
>
> Now Apache 2 is a perfect example of your rabid open-source
> community-driven software, and it's still a load of rubbish.  The
> Apache 2 migration essentially broke Perl until version 2.2 or so, and
> it's still a bit pissy at times (prefork being the only mpm that Perl
> will tolerate).
>
> IIS is a perfect example of your paranoid closed-source IP-grabbing
> big-brother software, and it's still a load of rubbish.  It doesn't
> play well with software stacks that don't end in .NET, and it's
> vaunted modular architecture has failed to make it any more ready to
> work with other bits of software (such as Ruby on Rails, which is
> currently the premiere web language AFAICT).
>
> Two different philosophies of licensing.  Two loads of rubbish.  Meet
> the new boss, same as the old boss.
>
> > I had to laugh when I read this b/c quite a bit of my income comes from
> > computers / technology, and yet, I pretty much hate computers.  Well, not
> > really, but you might know what I mean.
>
> Yes, I've been in quite a few shouting matches with my computer
> (including a lovely spell where GCC refused to link a template class
> in C++ when I split the header from the implementation.  When I put
> the implementation back in the header, which is horrible form, it
> worked.  Go.  Figure.  I tried using llvm, but they still use the GCC
> parser, so until CLang stabilises I'm kinda stuck with GCC for C++.
> I've tried using MSVC++ before, but their compiler is so
> ill-maintained (they favour C#) and their last C++ standard was so
> focused around "managed code" that it takes ages to fight the compiler
> into a standards-compliant state.  Again, two bits of software of
> different philosophies, but they're both rubbish.)
>
>
> I guess it boils down to this:
>
> In Open-Source, you get what some volunteers want for themselves.
>
> In Closed-Source, you get what some business-suits think you need.
>
> Neither of these situations has any kind of accuracy to what you
> actually want/need, so all this "OMG LINUX IS TEH SHIT!!!" stuff just
> sounds like naïveté to me.  So, if you want to save some time, grab
> what works for you regardless of who made it.  If it costs money, oh
> well.  That's a cost of doing business.  If you can't afford it, then
> use the free stuff (even if it's harder/doesn't work as well).  That's
> a cost of doing business (your time, as opposed to money which could
> save you time).
>
>
Works what works. Although I'm an avid Linux and opensource user (and
sometimes contributor) but I prefer to stay away from zealotry as much as
possible.


> Just the thoughts and opinions of a much battered and bruised computer
> user.
>
>




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